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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 06/20/2013 10:44 PM

    that wingspan is rediculous lol
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  1. BlazerFan0.
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    Posted 06/20/2013 11:06 PM

    I want gobert he's a string been but that length you gotta love

  1. BLASER
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    Posted 06/20/2013 11:10 PM

    exactly that length would make him one of the most pure shot blockers he could be great if he can put the rest of his game together
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  1. BlazerFan0.
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    Posted 06/20/2013 11:17 PM

    Ya add little bit of weight I looked up some highlights and he can throw it down pretty good .... I think Portland needs to hire a good big man coach I was hoping we'd pick up  Ewing to be our bigman coach ....  I think Leonard and gobert would be a nice center rotation for awhile 7 1 and 7 2

  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 06/21/2013 1:59 AM

    The guy has no offensive game except dunks. He is weak as hell. Every one is just drooling over his wingspan. Steven Adams has matched up thrice against him in workouts and got the best of him. Gobert himself said Steven Adams is stronger.

    I am a fan of Raymond Felton. Haha, seriously though I'm a fan of Batum's Lobs and JJ's Slams.
  1. gibo23
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    Posted 06/21/2013 2:34 AM

    Ok this is my first post so bear with me. 

    To start im gonna state the obvious that we have all already said in terms of both position need and role needs. Firstly a starting centre to defend the paint, block, rebound and hopefully add a low block presence of offense and teach leonard a thing or two. Secondly backups that can score, defend and the ability to  get to the rim at BOTH wings(because we all know batum and wesley dont) . And finally a backup PG and PF to fill out the roster.

    I'm gonna try and do this without losing any young players before we have given them a chance to develop (Leonard, Barton and claver...kinda) and keep our first rounders because we have all seen the OKC plan and wish in angst that our drafted big 3 weren't ravaged by injury.

    So....without any further ado.

    PG: Lillard, Maynor, Worters/Jackson/Brown

    SG: Matthews, McCullum/KCP, Barton

    SF: Batum, Rice/Leslie , Claver

    PF: Aldridge, O'Neal , Freeland

    C: Mozgov, Leonard, O'Neal 

    Ok Firstly i know we all hate freeland but his guaranteed for two more years so unless we can move him we are stuck with him. Secondly im not gonna even speculate on trades coz im not Olshley and have no clue what going on in that head. But i do NOT like the talk of LA and ten for 1, Noel is injured and has had two knee injuries and Mclemore doesnt interest me. And i know ive only added 14 man roster but that leaves space available for injury or FA pickup throughout the start of summer league or even regular season.

    Also some players like Batum (sf-sg) Aldridge and O'Neal (PF-C) can play more than one position so adds some flexibilty.

    Let me announce how i'd grab everyone (pretty straightforward really).

    Worters/jackson/Brown are all second rounder picks atm (we currently hold 39,40,45 atm). and all three are going in the price range of 35-45 in most mocks but who knows maybe we could grab an Isiah Cannan or something.

    McCullum or KC-Pope get my first round pick. I prefer KCP for the fact his 6'6 can shoot and DEFENDS. His handle isnt great yet and he isnt good at getting to the rim YET, but thats why they are rookies right? Mcullom is a valuable combo guard who could handle along with Lillard in that front court but is a volume shooter which could add problems if playing with batum, aldridge and lillard who all need the ball in their hands to score.

    The second of our second round picks goes to a SF something around the Glen Rice (which people see dropping), or C.J Leslie. This pick and 45 could be conveyed for an established wing or cash.

    Ok now for Free agency;

    The nba list active free agents as follows (note im only naming ones that i think should be interested in)

    UFA: Bynum (not gonna happen but i had to add him), Blair, O'neal, Dalembert 

    RFA: Mozgov, Splitter, Pekovic

    O'neal gets my nod because he will come cheap, can play the four and will bring a veteren presence and can score off the bench. Sign him to one year with a team option or two years, this enable Myers time to develop. 2 years at 4-6 mill

    Mozgiv is the other because it won't take much to grab him off the nuggets who are in disaray and already have mcgee and koufus and the Centre postion. 3 years at 12-15mil

    There we go keep some cash and with a couple of inexperienced vets and rookies we could develop some good chemistry and hang out for free agency and the much better draft of 2014.  


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  1. gibo23
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    Posted 06/21/2013 2:36 AM

    **experienced vets

    and forgot to add i liked the idea of Bynum at PG that someone else posted but i felt maynor was a good contast to Lillard runs the court well, court vision and good passing plus hiis 6'4. 2 years at 6mill

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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 06/21/2013 10:28 AM

    i wouldn't mind that roster, we can make it to the playoff, but we wouldn't have any experienced back up wing player, so i say no to that roster
    I am a fan of Damian Lilard leading us to a title and MVP to him, LA and MEYERS
  1. BLASER
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    Posted 06/21/2013 7:33 PM

    goberts upside coud be higher though once he packs on muscle and gets a couple post moves but it really wouldn't matter we'd pick him up based on his defensive potential and not his offensive potientia plus that guy doesn't even have to jump to get a block or rebound

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  1. BlazerFan0.
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    Posted 06/21/2013 8:02 PM

    I know bing imige Rudy gobert wingspan I want him

  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 06/21/2013 9:11 PM

    Yo, SHAWN BRADLEY. That is Gobert's Ceiling. He will probably be a very good shot blocker, but to weak to defend and no offensive game. Like Nerlens Noel.

    I am a fan of Raymond Felton. Haha, seriously though I'm a fan of Batum's Lobs and JJ's Slams.
  1. gibo23
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    Posted 06/22/2013 6:41 AM

    Very shawn bradely esq. but bradely still had a decent career as a shot blocker

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 06/22/2013 7:10 AM

    idk kareem abdul jabbar is a hall of famer and he wieghed 13 lbs less then gobert and he never packed on any huge amount of wieght or strength his whole career yet he's one of the greatest centers to ever play the game and that was in the era where basketball was way more physical not saying  gobert will be a hall of famer but he's go the kareem wieght mixed with the dikembe mutombo like wingspan
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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 06/22/2013 8:27 AM

    You are right on that Blaser. I honestly cant remember all those dominant big men, but Kareem played max one year against Bill Russell, three against Wilt, and a few at the end against Pat Ewing. There was like Laimbeer and Parrish and stuff but not so many big men (I know I am taking a risk and setting my self up for ownage but genuinely can't remember). Not to say he wouldn't flat out dominate even more today, he would.

    What I'm saying is that he he averaged 30 + points a game once upon a time and was an amazing offensive player. Don't know much about his defence, but he blocked shots like a beast and grabbed boards too.

    Now for a guy like Gobert, whose calling card is defence, he need to get reeeaaaalll strong. Same with Noel.  

    I am a fan of Raymond Felton. Haha, seriously though I'm a fan of Batum's Lobs and JJ's Slams.
  1. BLASER
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    Posted 06/22/2013 8:41 AM

    kareem was a defensive animal he's ranked 12th of all time out of centers thats pretty good especially when he lacked wieght and strength he made 11 all defensive teams over the course of his career thats pretty incredible so it can happen not saying gobert will ever be that guy but he can become a pretty solid c and so can noel (if he can prove to stay healthy) both have wieght advantages over skinny kareem
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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 06/22/2013 8:53 AM

    IDK how good/bad Gobert's gonna b for his career but I think it's FACT that he's ALREADY better v. Thabeet (this isn't saying much ;)  I would b VERY surprised if Gobert didn't look pretty bad his 1st yr. (not that I want this to happen but it's just most likely what's going to).  I've got a feeling that it'll take ~5-6 years for Gobert to reach/come clolse to his ceiling/know what he can/can't do; let's let some1 else draft him & deal w/ his growing pains & then when his rookie contract is up or about to b up, if he looks decent... THEN we go after him.

     

    I'm feeling more & more like Cj is our guy.  Cj doesn't have to b better or close to Steph Curry for us to have made a good choice in him (I hope 1 day he's close though!  hahaha!); I'd take him if even in hindsight, I KNEW that his ceiling would only b 1/2 as good as Curry's BUT... I think this guy's gonna be better than a 1/2 Curry ;)

     

    Oh yeah, w/ Splitter... I'm gonna back off on giving him ~$6million/yr.  ALL teams play for the trophy & in the finals, if u can't help ur team win/u look lost/bad the whole time... what good r u?  Splitter looked bad in the finals :(  He should've been the x-factor that put SA over the top v. Mia w/ their lack of a center/interior presence BUT instead... Splitter was a liability & was exploited by Mia.  IF Splitter was the guy every1 thought he was (this includes me ;) SA would've won the championship in 5 games.  Also, Splitter is 28; he can't get much better & IF he does, it won't b for long.  The ONLY reason why I think it's still worth going after him is because he CAN play pretty good in the regular season; he CAN help us get a pretty good reg. season record but when the playoffs hit... bench his ass.  I would offer him $5million/yr. max for 4 years.  If we don't get Splitter, there r quite a few better optionS out there.

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 06/22/2013 9:16 AM

    cj will play as an undersized 2 and it'll screw up bartons development (who will most likley be a better player then cj will when he peaks out) it would also cause a log jam @ the 2 with e will (if he can stay healthy) needing minutes too
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/22/2013 12:05 PM

    Ageree with Simpson 100%


    I doubt we bring back Elliot. CJ has loads of potential, the dude has hard core work ethic. McCollum was in a similar situation as Damian as he was forced to score. Also Leighs highs second best player was a PG so CJ had to play the 2. Don't think he will be a terrible PG like many think. I wouldnt give up on Barton though

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 06/22/2013 12:59 PM

    bartonns upside is projected to be alot higher then cj  would much rather find a viable starter like tyreke in free agency and move mathews to the bench we need a vetran leader like mathews as a 6th man that can play solid d off our bench then a rookie
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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 06/22/2013 6:29 PM

    & I agree w/ my man Siccolo!  Hahaha!

     

    @ BLASER, I am w/ u on some of ur points.  Cj is undersized as a 2 BUT we've got others to b 2s most of the time (i.e. Will etc.); Cj can b a 2 & run w/ Dame when the match-up of speed benefits us but most of the time, I'd say Cj should fill Maynor's role (this is 1 of the sad parts of how I c that we should do things; if we can't get Cj, we should quickly re-sign Maynor BUT if we can get Cj... I'm sorry but Maynor is now the odd man out; I'm/have been 1 of the ppl pushing the hardest to re-sign Maynor BUT IF Cj can b anything like Steph Curry... we should DEFINITELY pull the trigger on that right?).  I've been & am a Barton fan :)  Wes IS awesome but like I've said in other posts, IF Wes can help OUR TEAM out in ANY WAY... he's gotta help the cause, even IF that means pkg him up in a deal; THAT deal should b 1 that returns a decent center (VERY doable; again NOT a super awesome center but 1 that can hold things down until Meyers IS THE man). 

     

    I know there isn't much talk about a guy that replaces JJ (not talking about a true center this time); what I mean by that IS a PF that can do damage on both ends of the court off the bench that CAN blend when necessary w/ the starting unit. Ladies & gentlemen... Carl Landry IS our guy!  AND an excellent backup for Nico would b Al-Farouq Aminu.  IF we don't go after these 2 guys hard, we will regret it.  Aminu is ONLY 22, the guy is good!  Aminu's last contract was for ~$3.9million/yr., I would pay Aminu ~$6million/yr. (6 year contract) b4 I would give that $ to Splitter; eventually, that ~$6mill/yr. will b a steal for this guy! :)  Landry will come pretty cheap as he is 29 & his last contract was for $4million/yr; it will take ~ this same amount to get him.

     

    In summation: draft Cj, pkg Wes in trade for a decent center (+ next yr. draft pick if possible), sign (or trade/sign & trade) for Carl Landry & Aminu, & sign Jermaine O'Neal.

     

    If we can't draft Cj, we do all ^ but instead we re-sign Maynor, trade Wes for whatever pick gets us Victor Oladipo, & then pay $ for a decent FA center i.e. Brandan Wright (other good/realistic options here of course 2 ;)

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 06/22/2013 6:52 PM

    wow enough with comparing him to steph curry thats rediculous but after what I just heard the other day I wouldn't mind passing on him according to 750 on comcast radio chad talked to both tony allen and tony allens agent and portlands at the top of the list as a possible destination for him that would be the defenive upgrade in the back court we need and the vetran leadership and scoring ability off the bench
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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 06/22/2013 8:35 PM

    I'm with Blaser on this one guys *dap*. I am a fan of CJ, really am, but the whole small school guard thing is probably not gonna happen again. It could, but probably not. And we don't want to put CJ and Dame on the floor together, defensive suicide.

    I honestly think Barton could be our starter someday. He is a smart player. (smarter than before at least).

    Carl Landry would be great, so would Blatche. I want Sacha Pavlovic back. I think he was the smartest player on our team. He had some great moves. He was great at the drive and dish, great at those little Dr J type fakes, and Claver picked up on that.

    I am a fan of Raymond Felton. Haha, seriously though I'm a fan of Batum's Lobs and JJ's Slams.
  1. BLASER
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    Posted 06/22/2013 8:59 PM

    yea thats my biggest concern I cant see us striking gold 2 years in a row on a small school baller we woud have to have incredible luck for that to happen and I think another rookie gaurd shouldnt be our priority in getting this year unless we can find a way to get oladipo or mclemore
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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 06/23/2013 6:32 AM

    The way I c u it, Cj won't b Dame.  Cj will look so-so/like the wrong pick his rookie yr.; he won't come close to winning ROY BUT, yr. 2 he's gonna start to show us some good stuff & yr. 3 he's gonna b pretty good.  We will need patience w/ Cj (remember Martell & we gave up on him?).

     

    I also really like Dennis Schroeder; he'll also require patience BUT he'll show us some flashy things sooner (& more in total) v. Cj.

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  1. DLW-3*
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    Posted 06/23/2013 11:17 AM

    I don't get why some of you want to package Wes for anything. Dude is a beast. He had a few missed games and now he's unreliable? Crazy talk! He is the heart of this team, and his leadership will help out our rooks years to come. Pass on CJ, don't need to replace Wes with him. Remember Dame also plays 2guard (undersized yes, but legit scorer) and we have Barton who will be great off the bench (potential starter). I say we draft a center (len, adams, gobert, muscala) and add it to our lineup in case we have an injury. Whenever we get aged free agent centers they rarely play anyways. Why waste Leonard's progress just to pay out for a FA center? Surely it will help with experience, but if it means trading Wes, or any of the other crazy ideas I've heard by the water cooler, then no.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/23/2013 11:22 AM

    BPA ALWAYS!!


     Damian Lillard coulnt play defense but we still drafted him. He  was obviously the best player in the draft so we made the right choice. CJ can't play D but is very similar to Damian and is very skilled. Also has tremendous work ethic. You guys act like you can't trade a rookie. If he plays as HALF as good as Lillard he will have great value around this league. GMs drool over a young scoring machine. If McCollum pans out we can flip him for probably TWICE the value we would get with flipping the 10th pick.


    I don't think we can have that mindset of "we can draft two small school players in a row" We have to judge them by their strengths and weaknesses.


    We'll see in a couple months who turns out and who doesn't. 

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  1. DLW-3*
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    Posted 06/23/2013 11:30 AM

    Unfortunately though, our past proves that we can't trade a rookie. We do this time and time again, draft players only to have them sit on our bench while we get "vets" who leave the next year. Our players get pushed to the D league, get garbage minutes, or get benched after one foul. We just hang-on to them, becuase we don't want to think we've wasted a draft pick, but nobody else wants them because after a few years, the'yre still unproven. Sure McCollum likely will be better than some of our previous draft picks, but still why go after a log jam at the 2 just to say, well we could probably trade him. 


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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 06/23/2013 1:21 PM

    @ DLW-3*, I know Cj's a bit of a project; I know u r wondering, "why would we draft him then if we've got Wes?"  Because when Cj eventually comes around, he'll b able to score it like Wes can't; let's face it, Wes's scoring or defense (which is pretty good) won't get much/any better (& what about his ball handling?  Wes is maxed out there & I really wouldn't say he's "got handles;" Cj's ALREADY ahead of Wes there AND will eventually b able to run the offense w/ his passing & shooting; Can, has, or will Wes EVER b able to do that?), the guy is giving us all he's got (which is the reason why we all love him/his heart).  Bringing in Cj gives our team options & threats we didn't have b4.  Also, there's no logjam @ the 2 bc w/ what I propose because Wes wouldn't b w/ us any more & Dame & Cj r combo g's (aka  if any1 is playing the 2, they just go to pg np); should any player that plays the 2 get hurt, we'll have plenty of guys that can fill in there that aren't JUST 2 guards.  Cj has a maturity & mind similar to Dame's; THAT IS why he will b good in the NBA & succeed; his body & familiarity will all come around. Cj will have his struggles BUT NOT like Mclemore; he's a waste of a high pick, THAT guy has a LOT to learn & is just a kid.

     

    Also w/ trading Wes for a center, I'm NOT asking for centers that r going to take away from Meyers growth but rather centers that will complement his rise to starter.  Notice how the decent centers that I've mentioned AREN'T ur Jokim Noahs etc.?

     

    For those that r concerned w/ defense w/ Dame & Cj on the floor @ the same time... every1's gonna c the improved D that Dame brings from this summer w/ working w/ the Glove (we'll REALLY c it after yr. 3 though ;) & it's rumored that Tony Allen would like 2 come here so rather than pick up Carl Landry (I STILL believe in Joel), we can sign Allen & defense in the backcourt won't b a prob.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/23/2013 1:41 PM

    Stotts actually plays his rookies though. He would find CJ consistent minutes to see what he has. He would get a opportunity here. 

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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 06/23/2013 2:10 PM

    @ Siccolo, oh yes, agreed ;)  It's not playing time that Cj would have trouble w/ or fight; it's adapting to the ways o' the NBA.  Luckily, we've got Dame to help Cj w/ that too but I c Cj coming in to b more of the backup pg @ 1st & then later on flexing more of the Steph Curry more of a 2 guard & then pg action ;)
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  1. DLW-3*
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    Posted 06/23/2013 3:06 PM

    Yeah I get where you're comin from Simpson. I do like CJ a lot, and watchin his interviews kid is mature for his age and I do think would be a great pairing with Dame. I just worry about what we'll have to do to end up with him (unless he somehow drops to the 10th pick). I also agree that he would be an upgrade (offensively) over Wes, but the kind of player that Wes is, I just don't see us getting in return for him from another team that will replace his demanding presence on/off the court. Also, we have Barton. I said it before, I think the kid will be a starter soon and with his size has great potential to swing to the 3 (obviously he needs to slow his game down a little and clear his mind/focus more). 

    And Siccolo, def agree that Stotts plays his rookies and most of the issue was with Nate's philosophy of redshirts. 


    Overall I still think going after a big will be more valuable to us than having to trade up in the draft (unless we somehow can do so by getting rid of Nolan and 2nd round picks, but that's a pipe dream).

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 06/23/2013 3:58 PM

    West's defense cancels out the slight offensive upgrade CJ may or may nor be at the next level
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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 06/23/2013 5:34 PM

    @ BLASER, Wes is awesome & his heart can't b replaced BUT it's not just the individual scoring that will come w/ Cj's addition; think of how much more defenses would have to key in on TWO playmakers (either running @ the same time or starting & off the bench.  The opposition couldn't take possessions off w/ our athleticism, speed, & multiple versatilities :)  Love Wes but he makes our offense pretty predicable; Cj gives us an offensive playmaker to give opponents multiple looks that will have them spread/trying to anticipate multiple things.  +, if we get Cj, will it put u @ ease if we got Toney Allen to join us?  If we pkg Wes to get a center, we won't have to pay $ to get 1 (we'll use a few $ on J O'Neil but PLENTY left ;)  LOTS of $ to get Toney Allen but w/ him being 30 (most likely his last deal; he'd b looking for the longest term deal he could get), I don't think it'll cost as much to get him as some ppl think; I think if we gave him ~$6million/yr. but for 4 years... we could DEFINITELY land him.
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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 06/23/2013 9:15 PM

    that is the best idea that i ever heard Simpson. That is why i wanted cj the whole time, but if we can get wesley and tony together while getting a center would be the best offseason that the blazers has in a very long time.
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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 06/24/2013 9:50 AM

    naw keep mathews there isn't many viable centers that can play the type of d we need that will be attainable unless it involved a star player plus cj looks like he's most likley gonna end up in minnesota with the 9th pick and there isn't a chance they'll swap picks with us
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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 06/24/2013 9:53 AM

    plus I kind of like the idea of having an elite defender with a solid 2 way player to back him up wes on the bench would be a start 2 solving 2 issues we have on our bench scoring and defense
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  1. DLW-3*
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    Posted 06/24/2013 11:09 AM

    I'm with you Blaser, not sure why it's even considered to trade Wes or Batum. Defense was a huge problem for us last year (other than bench production), so why would we want to trade our 2 best defensive players? Also 2 players that can get hot on the 3 ball and drive the lane. Why can't we just draft a center/shooting guard and pick up Tony Allen from Boston for picks, cash considerations, or some of our stash players/bench? Then land maybe a FA center to ensure we have a presence at the 5/4 spot in case of injuries (not a jinx). Resign JJ and Maynor, possibly Sasha and see how the bench looks then after some rotations.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/24/2013 11:20 AM

    Doubt any team gives up a center for Matthews. Would be nice though

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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 06/24/2013 12:10 PM

    @ Siccolo, I know u don't like Gortat but I'll bet PHX would trade him for Wes; they need Wes & Gortat isn't working in PHX.  Gortat would pair nicely w/ LMA, Gortat is 29 w/ an expiring contract (if he doesn't work out w/ the 1yr. rental, we let him walk + Meyers should start to round the corner so he won't get in the way of Meyers when he's ready), & he wants to b involved in the flow of the game (he'll get plenty here ;)  Gortat will play hard this coming season bc he's trying to earn his final contract in the following season whether it's w/ us or not :)

     

    @ BLASER, problem w/ Wes & JJ r that they won't b willing to come off the bench; IF they did, this would solve a few issues ;)

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/24/2013 8:51 PM

    Im not sure PHX takes Wes for Gorat. If they do then I will be ok with it because we can keep our 10. Then we have 14 million of space and we ALREADY found a center. This would be great but I highly doubt PHX takes Matthews for Gortat.


    They are probably going to draft a SG and probably don't want Wes's contract. It would get in the way of their rebuild.


    I think Wes would be willing to come off the bench. He was ok with it when he backed up B-Roy for a that 40-50 games

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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 06/24/2013 9:40 PM

    @ Siccolo, they might not but IF ever there was a time that they would... now would b it because he really didn't mesh too well w/ Dragic & like I said ^ it's a contract yr. for Gortaters so they want something either now or during the season for him b4 they gotta pay him or let him go for nuthin' ;)  The other reason why PHX would do this is if a center they liked (i.e. Len or whatever) came to them in the draft; however, w/ some of the mock drafts having Len @ possibly #1... PHX most likely wouldn't b able 2 get him or even perhaps a center they like & this drafting a center biz wouldn't influence PHX to move Gortat ;)

     

    Wes was a young Buck comin' up in the world then; now he's ~ in his prime & w/ Wes's personality, I don't think he'll b able to stomach coming off the bench ESPECIALLY to a rook or even decent sg.  The only way I c Wes maybe coming off the bench is IF we were able to get a CLEAR BIG-TIME talent sg, then I can c Wes yielding to the better man/player.

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  1. BLASER
    BLASER
    Posts: 757

    Posted 06/25/2013 12:40 AM

    Wes seems like he's a put the team first type of guy if it means Havering a better chance to win I can see him playing the 6th man role
    I am a fan of defensive man beasts
  1. Siccolo
    Siccolo
    Posts: 1250

    Posted 06/25/2013 11:01 AM

    Yeah I still agree with Blaser lol :)


    I think Phoenix would rather let Gortat leave for nothing to save $$$. Doubt they want Wes's huge contract for 3 more years when they REALLY want to draft a Shooting Guard (Mclemore, McCollum, Oladipo) 


    Never know though, they might really want a veteran presence for their rebuild.

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  1. BLASER
    BLASER
    Posts: 757

    Posted 06/25/2013 11:08 AM

    gortat would be a decent pick up though as much as ppl seem to think he isn't for one we'd get him in a contract year and he would take up all our cap room and secondly either he works out and plays solid or we just got a decent 1 year rental
    I am a fan of defensive man beasts
  1. Shootums
    Shootums
    Posts: 11

    Posted 06/25/2013 7:22 PM

    I think Batum's stock will continue to rise.  Obviously his minutes as turnovers will need to go down a notch.  I would be very impressed; but not surprised, if Batum goes for .890 from the free throw line within the next 2 years.  I am not for sure, but I feel like Batum also has most of his International experience at playing SG.  

    I would like to see even more random offensive changes and substitutions to confuse young defensive opponents.

    I have wanted Iguodala at Portland for at least a few years; but his .571 FT% last year, I can't handle that and He will make at least as much money as Batum....I think

  1. Siccolo
    Siccolo
    Posts: 1250

    Posted 06/25/2013 8:36 PM

    My offseason

    Draft Micheal Carter-Williams with 10th, Jackie Carmicheal and Andre Roberson with second rounders


    Sign Wayne Ellington or any cheap offensive spark guard


    Sign Al Jefferson


    Lillard/MCW

    Matthews/Ellington/Barton

    Batum/Roberson/Claver

    Lamarcus/Carmichael/Freeland

    Jeferson/Leonard


    I like it 


    lol

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  1. sug81
    sug81
    Posts: 254

    Posted 06/26/2013 7:46 PM

    MCW doesn't want to be here haha, I now dislike him

    I am a fan of that GRIT & GRIND
  1. commontongue
    commontongue
    Posts: 1864

    Posted 06/26/2013 7:56 PM

    Minnesota better play nice or we'll return the favor and make Pekovic a toxic offer that theyd have to match.
    I am a fan of our new roster playing with and for eachother.
  1. Siccolo
    Siccolo
    Posts: 1250

    Posted 06/26/2013 10:38 PM

    I heard about that Sug. I was pissed LOL


    Looks like Cmeese's original trade could be a serious option.

    I am a fan of This Quote "One Love. One Heart. One Human race."
  1. commontongue
    commontongue
    Posts: 1864

    Posted 06/27/2013 4:40 PM

    Charlotte lookng to trade down for their #4 pick.
    I am a fan of our new roster playing with and for eachother.
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