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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 03/03/2013 2:27 PM

    Well if we pick up Hickson we have what 5 million left...

    Elliot Williams can be picked up for the minimum I think

    Maynor will get around 3 million a year

    Then we can use what ever we have left to sign a decent big man to play a some minutes lke Jermaine O Neil, Aaron Gray, Ryan Hollins, Brendan Wright

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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 03/03/2013 3:59 PM

    we need to go over the cap if we want to actually compete. If a team like denver is gonna pay javal mcgee 10 million a year to play 18 minutes,and andre miller 5 million to come off the bench.And the clippers will pay deandre jordan 10 million and lamar odom 8 million to come off the bench
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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/03/2013 8:24 PM

    lol and not wanting to start leonard it would help him develop faster since he was drafted to eventually be our big man I mean even with a decent bench I don't see us being able to knock off okc, the spurs, the lakers, and the clippers any time soon without any defense might as well as give leonard some starting time next season and bring in a vet big man to play behind him that can teach him how to play the defensive end I mean look @ k love and the wolves his game is almost identical to hicksons and it's never been successful he's all hustle and offense with little defense even though they win on the boards most of the time it's had little success 

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/03/2013 8:35 PM

    should try to bring him back for cheap and just plug him into a 6th man role 

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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 03/04/2013 12:00 PM

    yeah,lets just forget about trying to be competetive and just throw it all out,let hickson go,start leanord, hell lets just play babbit,lets trade batum cause he makes to much anyway,start babbit and let him play 40  min a game,eventually they will get better and we could maybe win 20-30 games,cool!
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  1. BlazerManiac
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    Posted 03/04/2013 12:57 PM

    Posted By Curvychloe on 03/04/2013 12:00 PM
    yeah,lets just forget about trying to be competetive and just throw it all out,let hickson go,start leanord, hell lets just play babbit,lets trade batum cause he makes to much anyway,start babbit and let him play 40  min a game,eventually they will get better and we could maybe win 20-30 games,cool!


    I sense your frustration curvyhoe.  Right now I would like to see Maynor, Leonard, and Claver play more off the bench.  Leonard has been getting better every game.  We keep those three, dump the rest of the bench (freeland, Jeffries & Sasha) that frees up $6M in Salary for next year resign hickson by using is Salary exception for $7.2m and then go after some quality bench players.

    Now this is all contingent that Leonard keeps developing and the Blazers hire a Big Men coach who can teach him to play defense without fouling.

    Remember OKC was young once and they were patient.

     

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/04/2013 1:18 PM

    ^ deff need a big man coach I just don't see why we should wait to start leonard next year it'll help him develop alot quicker 

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  1. BlazerManiac
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    Posted 03/04/2013 2:19 PM

    Get Jermaine O'Neal cheap, and use him to work with Leonard.
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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/04/2013 2:41 PM

    yea thats something I was thinking he'd probably come fairly cheap 

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  1. Nuno
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    Posted 03/04/2013 3:58 PM

    IF we resign Hickson and Maynor, and add another Big like J. O´Neal or S. Dalembert that can play good D, score some points, and teach Leonard and Hickson... And a SG/SF to score off the bench, we will be at least a Playoff Team, if we can get more pieces we will be stronger. Off course we all would love to have lots of $$$ to spend like the lakers and the heat, but we need to be realistic.

    We have already some important pieces (Lillard, Batum, Mathews, Aldridge and Hickson if he stays) and some useful pieces that are still developing (Claver, Leonard and Maynor if he stays) it makes 8, if you add a experienced and good defending C, and a SG/SF to score off the bench we would have a 10 man team, + Barton and Freeland that need time to develop as Claver and Leonard need... and we would  add a couple vets to this 12, so we would have  strong starters, and a pretty nice bench(if you compare with this years bench it may be considered awesome)

    could it be better? yes, for sure. can we get more (assuming we resign Hickson and Maynor and add a C and a SG/SF) quality pieces to this team for next season? i dont think so... the only way i see we get more cap space is if freeland leaves, and i dont see much teams wanting to pay him 3m, so i would let him develop this year and next, along with some more D League assigments for him and Barton...

  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 03/04/2013 5:19 PM

    It really is an easy fix first trade Joel Freeland for a pick include cash if you have to then draft a Euro Stash player in round 2. That will open up 3 million in cap space and give us a 3 million trade exception basically giving us 6 million more to spend. Maynor should be easy enough to sign for our room exception. Elliot Williams can be brought back for the minimum. That still leaves around 17 million in cap room if the cap is as projected goes to 60 million. I would love to see us sign someone like Josh Smith. He is a good passer, rebounder and defender and if you can keep him from shooting 3's and 20 foot jumpers a good scorer. I think he is a great fit because he can play 3 spots at a high level. You can run him at the 5, the 4 or the 3 so finding him minutes won't be an issue. Furthermore, if LA should for any reason not want to resign Smith is a more than sufficient replacement. The remaining money could be spent signing someone like Dalembert. 


    Okay maybe not so easy but their are lots of options

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  1. abarrer3
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    Posted 03/04/2013 6:13 PM

    If im not mistaken, I believe we will have around $13 mil this summer? There are many scenarios that could be taken but there are a few priorities in my opinion

    1. I think the only person resigned is Eric Maynor. He is a great point when Lillard needs rest, plus he stays relaitively cheap. Honestly, unless JJ resigned for a little more than he does this year, I think his demand is too high if we commands around 6 or 7 million a year. Signing those two alone would only leave roughly 3 million left.

    2. I think it is important to get a borderline star player, interpret that however you like. I think we need another scorer for sure, but someone who can score like Wes or even better. The way things are going in Dallas as of now, OJ Mayo Could be on the way out with his player option, but dont hod me to that. I think he or JJ Redick, who may not stay in Milwaukee, could be that player to either play 6th man, which they both have, or even start and move Wesley to that role off the bench where I believe he could thrive. Plus, he might cost less than JJ as well. Another player who could move Wesley to the 6th man role could be Al Forouq Aminu. He has been underwhelming thus far for the Hornets, which may urge them to look elsewhere instead of picking up his option, especially with the draft position they have and the plethora of Small Forwards.

    3. I think Timofey Mosgov is a hidden gem in free agency. He's got the size and big body, who can also be a good pick and roll player. He has post moves and a mid range jumper as well. He doesnt see time in Denver much but could see time elsewhere. And yes, this is the same Mozgov who has been dunked on by Blake Griffin and Demar Derozan, but look past that

     

    2 scenarios

    PG Damian Lillard, Eric Maynor                                                                PG Damian Lillard, Eric Maynor

    SG OJ Mayo, Wesley Matthews                                                                 SG Nicolas Batum, Wesley Matthews

    SF Nicolas Batum, Kostas Papanikolaou                                                    SF Al Forouq Aminu, Kostas Papanikolaou

    PF LaMarcus Aldridge, Victor Claver                                                        PF LaMarcus Aldridge, Victor Claver

    C Timofey Mozgov, Meyers Leonard                                                         C Timofey Mozgov, Meyers Leonard

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 03/04/2013 10:04 PM

    If we do find a way to get ride of Freeland and open up 16-17 million dollars in cap space I think we should first try to find another star player...

    Pekovic, Mayo, Smith VERY short list

    Then fill out the roster


    Or 

    Resign Hickson. Sign Mareese Speights. Sign Eric Maynor. Sign Elliot Williams.


    First Option will be harder to achieve.... second option many people will say it is "settling for mediocrity"

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  1. Nuno
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    Posted 03/05/2013 9:00 AM

    I dont think a "star player" is what we need...

    we should go after players that are great in specific areas but not stars, like miami did they have their core and they have 2 or 3 players that are good shooters, J. Jones, S. Battier or M. Miller, and good defenders like C. Andersen, U. Haslem or J. Anthony.

    I Will give 3 examples of players...

    SG/SF: Dorell Wright, plays 2 positions, good shooter and defender.

    PF/C: Elton Brand: is a great defender plays 2 positions, he can also score, and he isnt much expensive

    C: S. Dalembert, experienced and good defender, rebounds and blocks and scores

  1. BDawg
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    Posted 03/05/2013 9:45 AM

    Q: Should Leonard continue to develop, making obvious to the casual fan what the front office saw on draft day, does that then make Hickson more expendable...especially in lieu of the starter role and contract he will likely command following the conclusion of this '12/'13 campaign?
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  1. Nuno
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    Posted 03/05/2013 10:02 AM

    It has been good to see Leonard finally showing his skills, until the end of the season he will be even better for sure, at that point we will be able to see what we can rely on for next season (this also applies to Claver, Barton and Freeland), I think part of the decision to keep Hickson will depend on Leonard´s deevelopment and even Freeland´s...
  1. BlazerManiac
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    Posted 03/05/2013 12:24 PM

     

    I really hate putting all of our eggs in one basket for another star player (too risky).  We have a very young team who needs time to develop more.  Between Leonard, Claver, Barton and Freeland; Leonard & Claver are showing good progess however the Jury is still out on Barton & Freeland (if they stay send them to D-League).

    I think if we start Leonard the rest of the season and see how fast he progesses and if that works out, resign Hickson in the off season to play off the bench PF/C, get Bill Lambier or Hakeem to coach Leonard and others who could learn how to play effectively in the post and defense.  We have solidified our PG with Maynor.

    I am starting to think we are closer to being a contender then I originally thought.  We need just a couple more quality ench players.

     

    Starting Line Up 2013-2014

    Lilliard/Maynor

    Matthews/Claver/Barton (Possibly)

    Leonard/Hickson

    Batum/Claver

    Aldridge/Hickson/Freeland

     

    Assuming that we resign Hickson for his exemption that put us at $54M in salary for next year.  If we dump Freeland that free's up another $3M and assuming the salary cap is $60M that would potentially give us $9m to spend if I am understanding salary cap (of which I am not an expert).

     

    We are just missing a couple of good bench players.

     

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/05/2013 2:44 PM

    ^ I like that but I'd also grab a defensive minded vet to share minutes with hickson off the bench and to mentor leonard on that side of the ball 

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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 03/13/2013 1:05 PM

    So Basically what your saying is we wont sign hickson for 7 million. But The clippers will pay Deandre Jordan 10 million and Lamar Odom  million,and the nuggets will pay Javall mcgee 10 million to  play 18 minutes a game,and Andre miller 5 million as a backup pg. Thats a perfect example of why we dont compete.We need to show a player like Damian Lillard who has superstar potential that this is a franchise dedicating to doing WHATEVER it takes to compete.Other teams do,why dont we?
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  1. BlazerManiac
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    Posted 03/14/2013 8:17 AM

    Can you say Paul Allen is more dedicated to his other Hobby the Seahawks?
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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 03/14/2013 11:14 AM

    Yes he is
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  1. Nuno
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    Posted 03/14/2013 12:46 PM

    We dont necessarily need to spend much more money to be a better team, we just have to spend it wisely. it will be the key to our sucess.
  1. riverman
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    Posted 03/14/2013 2:08 PM

    Paul Allen has hired a staff to run the team. He's an owner, not a GM or President or coach. I'm happy with the direction the team is headed in and we're not paying huge salaries to players in crutches year after year this season which is great! We're only a handful of bench players from being a very good playoff threat next season and I've liked everything Olshey has done. Few rookies have gotten first year experience in the NBA and ours have. We can afford to sign JJ and might but that will be his decision in the end. My biggest complaint for the team is Canales as our defensive coach. We need a serious defensive coach on the bench and some defensive specialists coming off the bench. Defense is our weakness and it can be corrected. JJ knows he can come back here and apparently he likes Portland. Claver, Lillard, Leonard and Freeland will be better players next year. Lillard is great but he's not an NBA defender yet. Word is Gary Payton will work with him in the off season. Should do wonders for his game.
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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/14/2013 4:31 PM

    hickson isn't worth 6-7 million he's more around 4-5 dude is a great rebounder and great on the offensive end but is far below average on defense need an upgrade point blank period 

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/14/2013 4:33 PM

    he'd do good off our bench but doubt he'll wanna come off the bench not after this season he'll probably have it in his head that he is a starting caliber player I can see it happening on a team that isn't contending and is in need of a pf 

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  1. Nuno
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    Posted 03/14/2013 5:12 PM

    Hickson will have a lot of teams trying to get him, and if we want him will have to pay a lot i think..

    For example teams like Broklyn, Houston or Utah can easily offer him 10m...

  1. CarlJ1
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    Posted 03/14/2013 10:09 PM

    Well said River.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 03/15/2013 7:48 AM

    I know Bobcats fans really want JJ

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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 03/15/2013 8:15 AM

    How is he not worth the money? The guy gets a double double everynite. Just take 5 min go on espn.com and you can find at least 10 players making more then that who are worse. I named a few earlier that teams are paying 10 mill. Our team needs to get better not worse. We lose hickson and we'll suck even worse then we do. I guess though thats fine for some people.But I grew up with the blazers being competitive. early 90's blazers were awesome. Then the late 90's and early 2000's blazers were excellent,teams and fans of other teams respected our team and fanbase. In the late 2000's it looked like we would return to that form,but injuries derailded us. Anyway we got a chance with a player like Damian Lillard to be competitive again,but if we dont show him we are committed to building a winning team,and if he leaves,well then we might as well just let the franchise go the way of sacramento or the bobcats. So yeah if someone says"Hickson's not worth the money" Basically they dont know,cause who else are we gonna sign at center Tomothy Mozgov? Seriously you guys. Hickson gets a double double everynight. He's a Great player,and he needs to be signed,an it'd be retarded not to sign him,and the worst part is,we probably wont,and we'll continue to be a laughingstock of the league as we are becoming. Look now, Both Golden state,and the clippers are garnering more respectability then we do. 2012 truely was the end
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  1. Nuno
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    Posted 03/15/2013 11:56 AM

    Its easy to say that we must sign JJ Hickson, but you need to think on the main picture.

    We all agree that JJ Hickson is playing very good, already 36 Double-Doubles, and averaging 30 min, 13.3pts and 10.7rbs. Very good stats, and he´s getting 4M.

    Cap Limit will be around 60M.

    We have 8 players combining 43.25M guaranteed for next season.(Lillard, Mathews, Batum, Aldridge, Barton, Claver, Freeland and Leonard)

    We can and should resign Maynor, + 3.35M

    If we resign Hickson for what he deserves, + 8-10M

     Would leave us with 54,6 - 56,6m, so we would have 10 Players, and at best 5,5M to spend, and still needing a defensive minded Center, a SG/SF to score of the bench, even a defensive minded wing. It´s doable, but it will be hard to do. We may add Freeland(3M) as trading chip, and even Pavlovic(1,45M) and Jeffries(1,6M) non-guaranteed contracts.

    PS: How would you finish the roster with quality players, without much cap room to work with? I ask this because i dont know how the room exceptions work... Then think if it would be easier and more probable to get better players, to fill those gaps with the 10M you may spend on Hickson

  1. uprised
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    Posted 03/15/2013 1:21 PM

    The extra (and excessive) 3.8 million we dropped on Batum has not paid off, and here we are.  Struggling and arguing about if we can afford a guy who averages a double double....

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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 03/16/2013 8:41 AM

    So how do other teams operate? By simply going over the cap? Ok then,if we wanna compete we have to go over the cap. Denver and the clippers have a wayyyyy higher payroll then us,im gonna assume the cap is the same for them,so they are going over it,if thats the case,we simply NEED to go over the cap to compete,sure we can save money and thats great but as a fan if we wanna compete,well then we need to hope our team goes over the cap,if it werent for those loser football seahawks im sure paul allen would be doing ANYTHING to build a winning team,but he's been burned by the blazers a few times, with the wallace era and then the Oden disaster so your probably right our team will be buried in mediocrity.And for the person so said we dont need superstar players? Superstars win championships in the NBA.Period. Not only does a superstar sell jerseys,and draw ratings which helps as far as putting us in favor with the league(and getting the calls we need). But just look at the teams who win championships,they all have atleast 1 superstar and normally have 2 sometimes 3 superstars. Miami, lakers,Boston,San antonio,Shaq-Kobe lakers,Bulls,Houston rockets all Had Multiple superstars. The Mavericks in 2011 had dirk nowitzki as a superstar,the pistons didnt have any superstar players and the 1994 rockets had Hakeem the didnt have drexler yet but thats it as far as team without a superstar winning titles,so you need superstars to win titles in this league and its very,very hard to get a superstar to sign in portland,most of these "brothas" dont wanna sign in portland so we need to be like san antonio and dallas and draft superstars. We got one in Lillard,I believe lillard will be a bonafide superstar in this league,but its EXTREMELY important that we show him that this is a franchise that is committed to doing whatever it takes to be a winning team,letting hickson walk would send him the wrong message. Signing hickson even if it meant going over the cap would send the right message.
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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 03/16/2013 8:48 AM

    And as far as the Batum signing goes,its a catch 22. Yes he started the season strong and now he's struggled. But I think if the blazers were in contention he'd be playing alot better,when you get in a posistion the blazers are in were they dont have anything to play for and he kinda goes through the motions. But in fairness,he's had some injuries and he is averaging 15 points,6 rebounds and 5 assists which are very good numbers,he plays great defense as well and can play multiple posisitions,so actually he has been worth the # if you look at what other plays at his posistion do. And again we are talking about being commited to winning,we let him go to minnesota and what message does that send to players around the league,yes minnesota upped his salary on purpose to mess with us,them and utah seem to love doing that,but signing him was well worth it. When you figure he was a 17 pick in the draft and got traded for darrell arthur,started the 2008-2009 season as our 3rd small forward behind martell webster and travis outlaw he's been very successfull and i think will only get better,if we had a team that was contending I think he'd play even better
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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 03/16/2013 8:51 AM

    I didnt even know we lost at home to the jazz by 2 points. Our team has lost several games by just a few points here and there,we could very easily be in the playoff picture if you just take 2 or 3 games that we lost by 4 points or less we'd be right there
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  1. Nuno
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    Posted 03/16/2013 9:02 AM

    We cant to anything ... So we just have to wait and see what will N. Olshey do to get us a strong bench for next season, so that we become a top team or just another playoff team... As Olshey said, he will stick to a plan, that may take longer to achieve then what we want.

    Signing Hickson may send a positive message to the team, but  i believe, that even if we let Hickson go,  we can send a positive message to the rest of the Team, by getting  good players to complete the roster...

  1. Nuno
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    Posted 03/16/2013 9:14 AM

    by good players, i would say a 6thman (ex: A. Morrow or N. Young)that could be give us some serious scoring off the bench, an experienced, good rebounder and scorer PF(ex:E. Brand or M. Speights) and a 7´Center good on D and tht can score (ex: C. Kaman or S.Dalembert) to pair up with Aldridge.
  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/16/2013 11:47 AM

    I love his double doubles and all but we need a real center I'd be all for it if he signed for less and played off the bench as a 6th man and allowed us to grab up a legit starting center that can play defense but I'm not seeing him doing that after he's played this year and I doubt he'd be willing to play center here when theres teams that are in need of a starting pf else where 

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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 03/16/2013 12:54 PM

    Mosgov and Speights, B.Mullens & Gerald Henderson. Nolan,Babbit,Jeffries,Sasha,all gone.
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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 03/17/2013 2:48 AM

    well thats great homey,but who is a center? You want us to dump him and sign timothy mozgov> WOWW
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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/17/2013 3:54 AM

    idk mozgov is averaging half a block in less then a third of the minutes hickson is seeing he's got the size and strength to be a solid center just is burried under depth in denver 

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/17/2013 5:22 AM

    and hickson with 3 times the minutes is averaging .7 bpg I think he would be a great scoring option off the bench plus I don't think teams are really convinced that hickson is worth 7-8 mil think his defensive numbers/ability really hurt his worth so we might be able to still keep him for fairly cheap but I think we should seriously look @ trying to grab mozgov start and try an sign hickson and use him as an energy 6th man off the bench that can provide boards and points 

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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 03/17/2013 8:39 AM

    Mozgov sucks. Yeah lets sign a big white center,cause they always turn out great.Ill bet 10 years ago you thought darko milic was a good pic at #2. cause he was big young and had alot of potential. Mozgov doesnt play on denver for a reason. Kenneth Faried was drafted after nolan smith,and he plays,while mozgov doesnt. So Maybe we'll see, next time this year we'll be talking about how much better we were a year ago with hickson and how he's averaging 18 and 12 for charlotte or something and mozgov is getting bashed on in the middle.The days of BIG Centers are over,teams dont need big men anymore.Its a small game now with players who are near 7 foot sometimes playing out on the perimiter. Hickson is the only PROVEN rebounder on our team. Our PF Aldridge though he's a All-star is a below average rebounder,and plays on the wing alot,so to lose our ONLY rebounder would be dumb,we have to rebound the ball if we dont,we'll be even worse and 30 wins will seem like 60. Remember when we played denver,hickson had like 18 rebounds against them. He had 18 and 15 last nite now I know thats detroit,but he also had a double double the night before,but last nite he only played 33 min. Losing him for some immoble white dude=dumb. Why not just get rid of lillard to and sign goran drogjik
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 03/17/2013 9:04 AM

    JJ's stats were way better than Greg Monroe's last night. LaMarcus has about 31 double doubles so I wouldn't consider him below average by any means. He tied LeBron for the most efficient player in the league yesterday.
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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/17/2013 10:24 PM

    mozgovs per 36 = the same as hicksons until you get to the defensive numbers then it's no contest mozgov wins there his rebounds = around the same as hicksons since thats all your looking at is rebound numbers here 

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/17/2013 10:28 PM

    lol lamarcus has been no slouch by any means your owning yourself @ this point in this convo 

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/17/2013 10:30 PM

    but anywayz we picked up a legit center that is 7'0 and has the athletic ability to be mobile to in this draft wouldn't he be a better candidate to try and develop by getting him someone that has played at that position more then 1 season that can show him the ropes or should we just let him learn on his own and throw him to the wolves and call him a waisted investment now? 

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 03/17/2013 10:41 PM

    and whats wrong with having hickson come off the bench in a 6th man role it would give us a scoring and rebounding edge off the bench and just inserting a guy who can play some decent defensive in the starting rotation 

    I am a fan of defensive man beasts
  1. RipCity 14
    RipCity 14
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    Posted 03/18/2013 12:37 PM

    JJ Hickson has been moved around a lot in his career. He's young, he'll get better on the defensive end, that's what training camp is for. He should not be moved. When he gets better on defense, his minutes will increase and he'll become and even bigger beast. I don't think LA, Lillard, or Batum should be moved either.

    I am a fan of Raymond Felton. Haha, seriously though I'm a fan of Batum's Lobs and JJ's Slams.
  1. BLASER
    BLASER
    Posts: 757

    Posted 03/19/2013 7:14 AM

    back to the big man talk this up coming draft might not have that superstar potential player in it but it does have an abundance of project bigs espeically in the second round could be a wise choice to pick up a couple and hope they develop in the d leagues 

    I am a fan of defensive man beasts
  1. Curvychloe
    Curvychloe
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    Posted 03/19/2013 11:07 AM

    lol, all I said was Lamarcus plays more on the perimiter and shoots alot of 15 footers,hes not as strong as a rebounder as he could be,he only averages 9 boards a game and hes had some big rebounding games lately before that his average was around 7 which is his career average. 7 boards a game for a PF is average at best. The per 36 min stats are misleading. Just cause a computer says he would average a certain amount doesnt make it so. There is a reason george karl chooses to play him 9 min. after 20 min's he'd probably be all tired. I mean your talking about a dude who is averaging 2 points and 2 boards,and you want him as our starting center? What are you saying denver trash is our treasure? Maybe your right,maybe he does have potential and im wrong, I just doubt it, I mean werent you the guy who was saying Goran Dragjik was better then lillard? You like these Euro-dudes but the majority of them are busts. And Meyers lenard is cool,but I honestly doubt he's gonna have a career as a starting center,he seems more like a career backup,a serviceable big man like maybe a luc longly or will purdue type. and those guys did start sometimes but never were bigtime players
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