What to do with JJ Hickson?
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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/17/2013 8:21 PM

    Posted By Siccolo on 01/17/2013 7:10 PM

    Aye what are bird rights????????????? lol

    I thought it meant that if we sign JJ it would count against the cap or something LOL



    You are correct.  Hickson's cap hold is $7.2 (or $7.6 mil) and his Bird Rights play a part in that amount.  I was using BlazerManiac's example (4 year $6.2-7.5 contract), even though it ignores the circumstances that would have to occur for that to be possible, because he refuses to take the CBA and cap rules into consideration to make his argument.  Portland can't give JJ an extention (a 3-4 year $6-8 mil contract) because they gave him a one year contract.  I am not saying that BlazerManiac is wrong for wanting to sign JJ, or that I am right.  I am simply laying out the consequences, using BlazerManiac's logic, to help foster discussion and understanding of the issue Portland and Olshey face come free agency.
  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 01/17/2013 9:00 PM

    Tyreke Evans should be our main target, he has been awesome this year for the Kings and would be a perfect sixth man for this team. At 23 he would fit great with our long term plans and would drastically improve our bench right away. I am not sure what the asking price for him would be. I would be willing to give up a pick and any of our bench pieces.

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  1. beyondthearc
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    Posted 01/18/2013 8:02 AM

    I wish there was a way to bring Kevin Martin to Portland. But, with no other big man in OKC (that they would trade), it would be pointless to bring KM to Portland for Hickson when we would need another big man. If we could throw Matthews in the mix and trade for KM and Serge Ibaka that would be nice. But again, I do not see OKC trading SI and Perkins isn't a fair enough counter-offer if that was an option. I feel like KM could make a great difference. But a straight across trade of Matthews for KM would be nice, but would OKC do that? And Hickson... I like him too much to trade for just KM.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 01/18/2013 4:16 PM

    Id much rather that we focus on having a defensive minded team that can score. As opposed to having an offensive minded team that cant play D. If we do entertain Tyreke,id wait until his value plummets. That way he would appreciate being in the league. That kid is inconsistent. Maybe he neeeds new scenery,but i wouldnt give up much for him. He's been around D. Cousins too long.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 01/18/2013 7:07 PM

    He is probably inconsistent because his role keeps changing. He was a point guard then a shooting guard and then a small forward and now a mix of all. It also doesn't help that he has to share his position with either Brooks and Thomas or Salmons and Thornton. I think on our team he could really thrive and its not like we got much too give up anyways.

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  1. BlazerManiac
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    Posted 01/20/2013 8:16 AM

    This is a great assessment on JJ for all you naysayers of him who says Portladn should either trade him or wait unti Free Agency to sign him:

    http://www.blazersedge.com/2013/1/18/3892306/nowell-thoughts-on-blazers-f-c-j-j-hickson

     

    Nowell: Thoughts On Blazers F/C J.J. Hickson

    anny Nowell of Portland Roundball Society offers some thoughts on Portland Trail Blazers forward/center J.J. Hickson in a pair or recent pieces.

    First...

    While his shooting has improved, Hickson's rebounding has skyrocketed. His 21.6 total rebound percentage blows away his previous career high, and he's racked up a couple lengthy double-double streaks. He has perfected a sly push-off that he uses to wreak havoc on the boards (seriously, once you see it, you can't unsee it), and he's often the only Blazer really contesting the glass. That he grabs as high a percentage of misses as he does is almost found money for Portland, and allows them to keep a wide-open floor like Terry Stotts prefers.

     

    I'm not writing this to give Hickson the overblown fanboy treatment. He's a flawed player, slow-footed and prone to lapses in defensive rotations and off-ball movement on offense. Some of his production is undeniably the product of huge team-wide flaws. But because he is such a flawed player finding success, he provides a good deal of insight into the new Blazers era. On the court, he is a testament to the ingenuity that has propelled this surprising season, and the decisions the Blazers make about his future role with the team will be a major indicator of their intentions going forward.

     

    Second...

    In a way, last night's game is demonstrative of what J.J. means to the Trail Blazers. Somehow amidst the low-energy wreckage of last night's game, he emerged with a double-double. That seems great, as does his posterization of Alonzo Gee. Less perceptible from the box score or highlights, however, were the balls fumbled out of bounds, the passes sailed into the stands because Hickson pulled up on his cuts, and the wide-open looks Tristan Thompson got at the rim. It was a reminder that, even when producing more and more efficiently, Hickson is no centerpiece for a winning team.

     

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    So how much good from Hickson is a good thing? I've been quietly swimming against the pro-tanking stream this season, and I'm increasingly of the belief that the organizational relief that comes from grinding out wins far outweighs the benefits of marginally increasing the team's draft chances. It's hard not to be charmed on the non-rational level by a team running its starters 38 minutes a game to likely fall short of the playoffs; there's a certain purity and commitment to the obstinacy that, frankly, I much prefer to the cynical and luck-baiting "blow it up" approach to teambuilding.

     

    So in that sense, freeing Hickson up to do as much damage as he's able is a commendable flexibility and offensive ingenuity, two qualities it's safe to say are emerging as Stotts hallmarks. This roster necessitates that a coach not get too hung up on its limitations-the Blazers are basically running out a max of three players who don't have some major gap in their games. So Stotts, to his credit, has this team focus on what they can do; in Hickson's case, what he can do is work as a roll man operating with more space than he's accustomed to because of LaMarcus Aldridge's presence.

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  1. schwabbii
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    Posted 01/20/2013 1:58 PM

    I honestly believe that we cannot afford to lose JJ unless we do in fact trade him away for a viable big man who will help us out on both ends of the floor. He might have a lot of flaws but when you consistently put up a double-double and is the teams leading rebounder, you might want to keep someone like that. Forget the starting lineup because they are not the problem. If we honestly had a decent bench with a rather good sixth man, then I truly believe that we would pick up a lot of these games. We don't need JJ to be a finesse player. We need him to be a fighter. Someone who brings attitude to the game, which is something we are kind of lacking at this moment in time.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 01/20/2013 2:20 PM

    I dont think anyone will really offer Hickson a big contract so I trust that Olshey will give Hickson a good deal and he will be our back up Bigman and then we will get a small name center (Dalambert, Mozgov) then fill out the roster....

    We should get some guards right now!!

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/20/2013 3:31 PM

    He's a flawed player, slow-footed and prone to lapses in defensive rotations and off-ball movement on offense. Some of his production is undeniably the product of huge team-wide flaws. But because he is such a flawed player finding success, he provides a good deal of insight into the new Blazers era.

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    Less perceptible from the box score or highlights, however, were the balls fumbled out of bounds, the passes sailed into the stands because Hickson pulled up on his cuts, and the wide-open looks Tristan Thompson got at the rim. It was a reminder that, even when producing more and more efficiently, Hickson is no centerpiece for a winning team.

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    in Hickson's case, what he can do is work as a roll man operating with more space than he's accustomed to because of LaMarcus Aldridge's presence.

    The implication BlazerManic makes is that nay-sayers disagree with this, and that anyone suggesting JJ is not a legit starting center, or that he may command more salary than what the Blazers are willing to pay for a back-up Power Foward are nay-sayers.  I have yet to see anyone on these threads disagree with these assessments.  I'm dumbfounded where this perception of "nay sayer" comes from.  JJ is a good value at $4 million, has significant flaws in his game, isn't the answer at center, and has decent stats as a result of playing along side, arguably the best Power Forward in the game.  Noone has ever questioned JJ's effort.

     

    If landing a legit center means trading or letting JJ go for nothing, so be it.  No one want that, but that's reality. 

  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 01/21/2013 3:36 PM

    No player gets the crowd more amped than JJ. We need to keep this kid. It's hard to imagine but he's only 23 and he's only going to get better. Also, he really wants to be here. When is the last time we've been able to say that? Yes his offensive game may be a little limited and he's not a lock-down defender, but there's always a market on hustle guys who rebound the heck out of the ball.
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  1. BlazerManiac
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    Posted 01/21/2013 5:08 PM

    Posted By DHawes22 on 01/21/2013 3:36 PM
    No player gets the crowd more amped than JJ. We need to keep this kid. It's hard to imagine but he's only 23 and he's only going to get better. Also, he really wants to be here. When is the last time we've been able to say that? Yes his offensive game may be a little limited and he's not a lock-down defender, but there's always a market on hustle guys who rebound the heck out of the ball.


    Agreed, he reminds me of a Patty Mills who was always good for getting the crowd excited.  There are too many people on this board who are so CAP conscious that they are willing to scrifice the Long term potential of this kid in place of making a splash this summer in the Free Agency market.

    JJ has some good fundamental talents that can be built on.  And he also his fearless in the paint which cannot be taught.

     

     

     

     

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/21/2013 8:21 PM

    Posted By DHawes22 on 01/21/2013 3:36 PM
    No player gets the crowd more amped than JJ. We need to keep this kid. It's hard to imagine but he's only 23 and he's only going to get better. Also, he really wants to be here. When is the last time we've been able to say that? Yes his offensive game may be a little limited and he's not a lock-down defender, but there's always a market on hustle guys who rebound the heck out of the ball.


    Agreed.  What value is getting the crowd amped do on road games and is that really why you pay players?  How much do you spend on JJ?  The second question is really where the discussion is.  If the argument is, "sign JJ at all costs,"  that's not condusive to a real discussion as Olshey has laid out his plan from day one, and has been consistant.  There are so many people on this board who are so Cap ignorant and are willing to sacrifice long term team success for an emtional attatchment to an individual player.

     

    His attitude and effort have value.  So, what do you put his value at?  Then you look at the numbers.  How does it affect Portland's ability to fill SG, PG, and Center deficiencies?

  1. Posted 01/22/2013 10:43 AM

    JJ Hickson has more heart for the game than anyone I have seen in years, if Portlands FO lets this guy go they would be making an even bigger mistake then if they would have let batum go last year, cant we quit talking about trading one of our top players and a starter and clean some of the trash that we are carrying on the bench. Get real!!

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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 01/22/2013 12:14 PM

    @Fanatic...best post I've read on this thread.  Accurate summation of the situation.  Short and sweet.

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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 01/22/2013 1:10 PM

    BF that was on point. The same could have been said about Pendergraph.
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  1. BlazerManiac
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    Posted 01/22/2013 2:02 PM

    Posted By commontongue on 01/22/2013 1:10 PM
    BF that was on point. The same could have been said about Pendergraph.


    OUCH, that says it all.  The same thing could have beens said about Joel Freeland.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 01/22/2013 2:29 PM

    Joel Freeland doesnt get the crowd amped lol 

    He is so boring haahaa


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  1. BlazerManiac
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    Posted 01/22/2013 2:35 PM

    I know he is boring.  When he was playing last night I feel asleep.LOL

     

    Can you say tweet tweet tweet?  I hear JJ using his Bird Rights and vetoing any trades.  Sounds like unless we sign him to a Long term deal we lose him to Free Agency and we get nothing.,

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 01/22/2013 3:01 PM

    Hahahaha

    Time to find depth by looking at teams with High payrolls 

    Boston, Orlando, Philly are in the top 10 of teams with the highetst payrolls, and are struggling as of now.


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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/22/2013 3:19 PM

    Posted By commontongue on 01/22/2013 1:10 PM
    BF that was on point. The same could have been said about Pendergraph.


    JJ > > Jeff Pendagraph in my opinion.  Although I must admit, I have not watch Jeff much recently. 
  1. Nuno
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    Posted 01/22/2013 3:25 PM

    Posted By Siccolo on 01/22/2013 3:01 PM

    Hahahaha

    Time to find depth by looking at teams with High payrolls 

    Boston, Orlando, Philly are in the top 10 of teams with the highetst payrolls, and are struggling as of now.



    i think doesnt matter where we "catch" good bench players...

    What is really important is that we need them for yesterday... (its an expression we use in Portugal, i dont know if it aplies in english)

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/22/2013 3:26 PM

    Posted By BlazerManiac on 01/22/2013 2:35 PM

    I know he is boring.  When he was playing last night I feel asleep.LOL

     

    Can you say tweet tweet tweet?  I hear JJ using his Bird Rights and vetoing any trades.  Sounds like unless we sign him to a Long term deal we lose him to Free Agency and we get nothing.,



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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/22/2013 3:37 PM

    Posted By Nuno on 01/22/2013 3:25 PM

    i think doesnt matter where we "catch" good bench players...

    What is really important is that we need them for yesterday... (its an expression we use in Portugal, i dont know if it aplies in english)



    I think the English coloquialism is probably more emphatic, like "week" or "month" or "year."  Like saying, we could have used some help 6 months ago!
  1. commontongue
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    Posted 01/22/2013 6:34 PM

    I think Pendergraph plays for Indiana doesnt he ?

     

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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 01/22/2013 6:36 PM

    Maybe we should go after Travis Outlaw, Jarrett Jack and Martel Webster. They seem to play better against us.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 01/22/2013 8:22 PM

    Damn I would kill to have Jack, Webster, and Outlaw right now ahahaa

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  1. BlazerManiac
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    Posted 01/23/2013 11:11 AM

    Posted By commontongue on 01/22/2013 6:34 PM

    I think Pendergraph plays for Indiana doesnt he ?

     



    He does making $1.5M a season playing 5 minutes a game.  And he has only played in 13 games!
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 01/23/2013 12:12 PM

    Why we need to keep JJ..he's just the best


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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 01/23/2013 12:50 PM

    "I just want that luxury of playing with a dominant center so that we can play together.  I never had that, so I think that would be good for me and good for that person." - LaMarcus Aldridge; courtesy of Candace Buckner of The Columbian


    In a one-on-one with NBA.com's David Aldridge, LaMarcus had this to say when asked if adding somebody larger next summer would help..."Yeah.  You know, I love J.J.  He's good for us.  But somebody seven foot, 7-foot-1, a lot taller than me, that would be great."

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  1. uprised
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    Posted 01/24/2013 8:26 AM

    Posted By DHawes22 on 01/23/2013 12:12 PM
    Why we need to keep JJ..he's just the best

    Seriously.  I will be so bummed if he leaves.  



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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 01/24/2013 4:46 PM

    What to do with JJ Hickson?  Do with him what Shaq did...

     

    You'll want to check this video out...Dame with honorable mention.  In purple and gold, I couldn't even tolerate the man.  Now, in a suit and tie, I actually find him to be highly entertaining. 

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  1. Aldridge All Day
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    Posted 01/31/2013 2:48 PM

    JJ Hickson needs to be traded. JJ is a lucrative trade asset, and without giving one of their stars up the blazers will struggle to fill the gaping void that is the bench. JJ is getting double double after double double because there's no one else on the team to fill the role of board-crasher, and the absence of a bench gives him nearly 40 minutes a game to find 5 field goals. Don't get me wrong, I respect the effort he puts in every night, and he's an asset to the team, but he's an asset that could be traded for what the team really needs right now, which is 2-3 strong, consistent bench players to compliment Leonard, Babbit, and Price, the only three bench players who deserve to stay there next season.
  1. BLASER
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    Posted 01/31/2013 5:02 PM

    Posted By Aldridge All Day on 01/31/2013 2:48 PM
    JJ Hickson needs to be traded. JJ is a lucrative trade asset, and without giving one of their stars up the blazers will struggle to fill the gaping void that is the bench. JJ is getting double double after double double because there's no one else on the team to fill the role of board-crasher, and the absence of a bench gives him nearly 40 minutes a game to find 5 field goals. Don't get me wrong, I respect the effort he puts in every night, and he's an asset to the team, but he's an asset that could be traded for what the team really needs right now, which is 2-3 strong, consistent bench players to compliment Leonard, Babbit, and Price, the only three bench players who deserve to stay there next season.

    this but then who's gonna play the 5? leonard so he can get fouled out by the third quarter? or freeland who is still trying to find his rhythim in the nba? if we trade him it would have to be for a legit 7 foot center that can come cheap and be starting caliber  

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 01/31/2013 5:03 PM

    and a bench player or 2 

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 02/12/2013 7:53 PM

    Only 13 minutes tonight against Miami for JJ whats up with that. 

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 02/12/2013 8:42 PM

    Small line up.  JJ doesn't have a guy to guard.  0 rebounds in 13 min... yikes. 
  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 02/13/2013 3:00 AM

    For starters, I'd play him more then 13 minutes coach! Jiminee Chrstmas!!
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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 02/13/2013 11:12 AM

    Yeah Lets play JJ 13 min. Great Idea.lol
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 02/13/2013 11:19 AM

    Yikes was Batum's night 5 pts 2 reb 4 ast and 5 turnovers in 39 minutes he needs to sit if he is not healthier than that.

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  1. Nuno
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    Posted 02/13/2013 11:43 AM

    maybe it is time to make a change...

    after this last games, i think we wont be able to reach the playoffs and we may even get passed by the Lakers and de MAvs sonner or later...

    so we could start thinking in next season or try to make a run for the playoffs, we should try a couple new players and give our rookies more playing time... and  maybe it wouldnt be a bad idea to trade Hickson and the other expiring/non guaranteed contracts, for something we could use in the future...

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 02/13/2013 3:18 PM

    Posted By cmeese47 on 02/13/2013 11:19 AM

    Yikes was Batum's night 5 pts 2 reb 4 ast and 5 turnovers in 39 minutes he needs to sit if he is not healthier than that.


    "What to do with JJ Hickson?"

     

    Do you think Portland should pick up JJ's $7.6 mil Qualifying offer, leaving the Blazers with $4-7 mil to go after 1 or 2 free agents?  What positions to you fill with that $4-7 mil?  Are the Blazers a contender with that team?

  1. Nuno
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    Posted 02/13/2013 3:53 PM

    with that 7mil at best, wouldnt be easy to fill the gaps, i would say it would be very hard to get quality bench players... the team wouldnt be much diferent then it is right now... Hickson is a very good player and is playing for a good contract, he will demand a big contract next season, around 8-10m for sure, and we cant afford to pay him that, 1st we need a 7´center, good defender and that can score 2nd we need 2 backup guards that score off the bench 3rd we have Leonard, he would benefit if the works with a true center.

    OPTION1: we have 17m, to sign a Starting Center, and backup PG,SG and PF, letting JJ Hickson go

    OPTION2: WE have 7m to get a Center, a PG and an SG and pay around 8M for a backup PF/C (Hickson)*

    I would make you a simple question... what would you people prefer? i would say option 1

     

    * i say, hickson would be a backup because, LA is a top player, and i think we will get a true Center.

  1. Nuno
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    Posted 02/15/2013 10:51 AM

    i think there is a good chance for us to get a player similar to JJ for next season, for almost the same money...

    What do you think we trade JJ for Speights from Cleveland? he´s making 4.2m, with team option for next season of 4.5m.

    Speights is also PF/C, a litle bigger then JJ, 6´10, he scores, he rebounds, and as Aldridge, ocasionally he even gets some 3´s... earlier in the season we was the backup for Gasol and Randolph in Memphis, and he was doing a good job...

  1. sug81
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    Posted 02/17/2013 10:47 AM

    I keep hearing Iman Shumpert is asking to be traded, I think we could try JJ for Shumpert and a draft pick it would be very hard for the duration of the season but then we could get a center in free agency, move Wes to the bench and start Shumpert. I don't know just a thought.

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  1. Choong Huh
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    Posted 02/18/2013 11:28 PM

    More I look at the upcoming offseason, the more I am convinced that it is much easier to build a team this trade deadline rather than after the season. Hickson becoming more expensive will seriously limit our cap space to pursue FAs. Tanking this season won't worth jack because of not having a first round pick (went to Charlotte). Hows this one?


    Milwaukee gets JJ Hickson, Wes Matthews, Luke Babbit, Nolan Smith + 2013 second round pick(s)

    Portland gets Sam Dalembert, Monta Ellis, Joel Przybilla (optional), Marquise Daniels (optional)

    Words coming out of Milwaukee is that Monta will opt out of his contract and become a free agent. Dalembert is playing with great efficiency. I know many believe that Jennings, Monta was a failed experiment, but Lillard's a much better passer.

    Getting Monta for Matthews should be considered an upgrade, despite the huge dropoff of defensive ability. Wouldn't this stir the league?

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  1. abarrer3
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    Posted 02/19/2013 1:05 PM

    I say the nets knockout two birds with one stone. 

    Nets get- JJ Hickson, Ben Gordon

    Bobcats get- Kris Humphries, Blazers 2nd round pick

    Blazers get- Marshon Brooks, Nets 1st round pick

    I think each team benefits as well. Blazers finally get a sixth man who has fallen out of the rotation with the nets, but remember, Brooks averaged 13 ppg last year for the nets. Also by receiving their pick, it gives us a definite 1st round pick, and their is always the possibility that we slip back into the top 12 in the draft and would have two picks, somewhere around 12 and 22

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  1. sug81
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    Posted 02/19/2013 11:53 PM

    No offense, but I would hate that Milwaukee trade. We lose D in gaining Monta, Dalambert is old and the biggest problem being the bench is still just as bad. I think the only way JJ or Wes would both ever be traded is if we got a young skilled or athletic center for the future, a good bench piece, and/or 1st round draft picks. Just my opinion.

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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 02/20/2013 4:58 AM

    Pass on Ellis.  Love the skillset, love the ability, but hate that fit.  Personally, I would like to see the many MeMeMe players (like Ellis, Howard, Carmello, etc) all be forced to play on the same team and for an entire season.  That would bring me great joy.  Much like watching the Superfriends fail at "not 1, not 2, not 3, not 4, not 6..."  Everybody loves hating on the villain, and this league has plenty.

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  1. BlazerManiac
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    Posted 02/20/2013 8:58 AM

    What everyone tends to forget, what happens if JJ leaves and Portland cannot sign and dominant Big Man that everyone is craving?  What are we left with?  Another two to three years of re-building. 

     

    Last night was a great example of him stepping up when it was needed with Matthews out and Batum disappearing again!  Batum has been pretty much non-existent in the month of February with regards to Production.

     

    So the question is, do we risk letting JJ go in Free Agency and fall short again in signing a “True” Big Man or sign him and continue to develop Myers Leonard into our Center of the Future and then dump the dead weight bench and use that money plus available money we have after signing JJ to try and assemble some sort of bench?

     

    All Basketball Experts agree that Portland has the strongest starting five in the league.  Why jeopardize that for an unknown?

    I am a fan of WES, the heart and soul of the Blazers.
  1. Nuno
    Nuno
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    Posted 02/20/2013 4:01 PM

    We dont really need a dominat big man, in the way i see it need a big man (center) that is a strong defender, and that can also score, and with some experience, i would say someone like Samuel Dalembert.

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