Free Agency Thread *Blazers Match Batum*
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 07/10/2012 10:22 PM

    I feel like it's simple, why let a player walk next year if we can trade him for something now. I'm not saying  trying to see some dreamy idea of his "potential," and I could easily say I see plenty of potential in Williams, who can also grow alongside the new young talent, and is getting paid right now due to play not potential.

    Olshey and the office aren't trying to make that trade, but williams would be a good deal, if given something as well like draft pick.



    As for anyone saying the problem is that Williams is a second year player and Batum has grown over 4 years.. isn't really watching. Yeah Batum made some strides, but if anyone can say he's near all-star caliber after what we've seen is just

    Nic's looking to get 12-15 mill a yr, think about that... I haven't seen play worth that money, and throwing that around for someone who doesn't want to be here is no good. Let's say we did the trade and get Williams, where do we lose in comparison to letting Batum walk and getting nothing. Williams is on a rookie contract, and next year and the year after are TEAM OPTIONS for resigning, at about 5-6 mil. Still have plenty of cap room to sign a free agent next year if he doesnt work out, one of which being Josh Smith.



    If you DO think Batum is worth 12-15 mil contract, you're without a doubt basing that on something you believe he CAN DO, not on what he HAS DONE. I mean shoot I believe Anthony Davis is going to being worth 20 mil, based on his potential in and his future, but he's getting paid based on what he's done (getting drafted 1st), not what he CAN do, just like the rest of the rook's and players who haven't performed greatly. Nic's contract is completely based on what he CAN do, because he has not yet shown that he's worth that.  That's a risk that we cannot afford, based on lamarcus' age and the path this franchise is on.

    i.e: Ben Gordon, overpaid based on what "potential" he had/what people thought he could do, because role on Chicago was shakey so the security at the Pistons would help him achieve that....

     

    Another thing maybe someone has said but I'm just going to add to, but Minnesotta picking up another international player, Batum wants to be somewhere like that. Rudy was his buddy, and he left, i definitely think Rubio being there and pekovic and this new guy coming in, has a lot to do with it (not just their caliber), and we don't really have that here, it means a lot to be near people you're like to some players, that's a lot of the time how chemistry is built.



    And just if anyone hasn't seen, Nic did have an interview and although he said he wouldn't mind staying here next year, he had extended words that he wants to loeave, though it's nothing personal to the city or to the fans.. 



    I really don't see any great options in free agency though, really just trades. Time to move to a new thread.....
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/10/2012 10:49 PM

    Yep try the off-season plan c thread it is pretty awesome.
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 07/10/2012 10:57 PM

    yeah, this was a hibbert thing I guess.  but it's about free agency.

    to me dollars and cents is a waste of time conversation.   

    forget about money and just ask whether or not you like batum and what he brings to the team and what the future holds..... 

    If portland isn't in the running for someone like iguodala, and they let batum go, well, envision a big gaping hole and portland not making the playoffs.  but if you think we could be just as well off without batum, then who cares about money, just let him go.  As I see it, portland's roster has more holes than swiss cheese and losing Batum leaves a gaping hole that portland can't afford ... then portland may be a lot more dependent upon someone you don't know hardly anything about, like victor claver.  and how happy will fans be when we're back in the lottery again next year.

    i dunno.  this conversation's exhausting.  too many fans listen to all the comments in the media and question his loyalty now.  I guess it'd have been really nice if batum weren't restricted so portland woulda felt more compelled to sign him a year ago or it woulda been pretty clear that portland has seen the best batum has to offer and they don't see his future in portland.

    but I think olshey's making it a priority to keep batum... and like I said before, I bet you'll all hear the same old scripted bullshit when batum has his press conference and olshey smiles by his side when he announces they've come to an agreement.  

    all the spew in the media is just typical smoke filled crap that happens with players every year on every team
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 07/10/2012 11:10 PM

    knorton, everyone gets paid based on potential EXCEPT rookies. If everyone was getting paid based on previous seasons, nobody would be dumb enough to sign long-term deals. What if you have a breakout season the first year of a 5-year $20 mill contract? Pretty much got screwed right? Right.

    Very few players have gotten an offer after their rookie-year deal to which everyone said "that's perfectly reasonable." If a guy has potential to be worth $13 million dollars 4 years from now, you better be offering him a deal that pays him $13 mill in the 4th year. Think of it like stocks, except you hire a staff that helps those stocks increase their value, and get someone to coach the stocks to make sure it's potential worth is realized. Not all of those investments work out, but you have to put the money down or you'll never get your big-time reward (i.e., championship ring).
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/10/2012 11:20 PM

    It's been a few hours sings free agents have been able to sign and no report out of Minnesota about Batum signing an offer sheet. I think someone mentioned that the Wolves would have to make a slew of moves before even offering an offer sheet, so if that's the case, then this could take longer then usual.
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 07/11/2012 1:13 AM

    part of my msg got swapped.. meant to say "I'm not saying Olshey and the office aren't trying to make moves for trades, just that Williams would be a good option"   And  I guess I see your point Pickett, just think it's bold to say he's worth that money. Then again I'm more of a football guy, where in NFL, players are given the value that they play at, because most likely, they get shorter contracts, and if they for some reason should be paid more management will pay more when that time comes (a lot of moer incentives) and a player can hold out if he/she feels they should be paid more. The NBA just frustrates me because of these long, huge contracts given out because teams want to win the player over and make them feel special and worthy over the other teams offering, and then a team is in turmoil for 6 years. Just don't wanna see that happen to my one pro Oregon team which seems to be making other good decisions.
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 07/11/2012 1:13 AM

    part of my msg got swapped.. meant to say "I'm not saying Olshey and the office aren't trying to make moves for trades, just that Williams would be a good option"   And  I guess I see your point Pickett, just think it's bold to say he's worth that money. Then again I'm more of a football guy, where in NFL, players are given the value that they play at, because most likely, they get shorter contracts, and if they for some reason should be paid more management will pay more when that time comes (a lot of moer incentives) and a player can hold out if he/she feels they should be paid more. The NBA just frustrates me because of these long, huge contracts given out because teams want to win the player over and make them feel special and worthy over the other teams offering, and then a team is in turmoil for 6 years. Just don't wanna see that happen to my one pro Oregon team which seems to be making other good decisions.
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 07/11/2012 1:13 AM

    part of my msg got swapped.. meant to say "I'm not saying Olshey and the office aren't trying to make moves for trades, just that Williams would be a good option"   And  I guess I see your point Pickett, just think it's bold to say he's worth that money. Then again I'm more of a football guy, where in NFL, players are given the value that they play at, because most likely, they get shorter contracts, and if they for some reason should be paid more management will pay more when that time comes (a lot of moer incentives) and a player can hold out if he/she feels they should be paid more. The NBA just frustrates me because of these long, huge contracts given out because teams want to win the player over and make them feel special and worthy over the other teams offering, and then a team is in turmoil for 6 years. Just don't wanna see that happen to my one pro Oregon team which seems to be making other good decisions.
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  1. RjP
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    Posted 07/11/2012 6:16 AM

    Freeland in PTB.!!! 
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/11/2012 9:31 AM

    Trail Blazers turning their attention to Brook Lopez?-

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/11/2012 10:05 AM

    Free agency is almost over for us. This has been one of the most disappointing off-seasons. 
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 07/11/2012 10:39 AM

    Marc Stein just likes to grab headlines.  If not Brook, next it'll be McGee, then he'll speculate about Kaman.  

    Report I heard already was that Olshey was putting all his eggs in the basket for Hibbert and he doesn't want to overpay for someone less.  And Brook has been rumored to Orlando in deals for Dwight.  

    I'm curious what you guys think of Brook.  I liked him at Stanford, but he seemed to be a more aggressive shot blocker in college than he is in the nba, but he's scoring well.  Him and Meyers have pretty similar styles.  I guess it's good so that we have options, a good player coming in off the bench, but seems to me brook's going to command a pretty big paycheck and I dunno, I'm not seeing it.  I don't think Olshey's going after him, I think Stein's full of shit, just seeking headlines.  but maybe I'm wrong.  blazers did retweet his crap on twitter, so maybe they're trying to garner support or gauge fan interest in brook.

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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/11/2012 10:42 AM

    I don't think there's anything to the Brook rumors (via Woj)-
     Brooklyn's fully guaranteed the first 4 years, $58M of a max deal offer for Brook Lopez, sources tell Y! Sides still discussing 5th year.

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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 07/11/2012 10:50 AM

    Posted By cmeese47 on 07/11/2012 10:05 AM
    Free agency is almost over for us. This has been one of the most disappointing off-seasons. 

    it sucked before it ever got started.  

    so let's see, so far we got....

    Meyers Leonard, Kurt Thomas
    Aldridge, Freeland
    Claver, Babbitt
    Matthews, Barton
    Lillard, Nolan

    who am I forgetting.  

    That's our roster so far.  there's still free agents we're unsure of like hickson, dunno if we'll re-sign prz, doubt felton, flynn.  we got summer league coming up and we could see a couple guys signed from there if they do well... 

    I'm not too excited about the roster as it sits right now.

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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 07/11/2012 10:57 AM

    Posted By boomtown on 07/11/2012 10:50 AM
    Posted By cmeese47 on 07/11/2012 10:05 AM
    Free agency is almost over for us. This has been one of the most disappointing off-seasons. 

    it sucked before it ever got started.  

    so let's see, so far we got....

    Meyers Leonard, Kurt Thomas
    Aldridge, Freeland
    Claver, Babbitt
    Matthews, Barton
    Lillard, Nolan

    who am I forgetting.  

    That's our roster so far.  there's still free agents we're unsure of like hickson, dunno if we'll re-sign prz, doubt felton, flynn.  we got summer league coming up and we could see a couple guys signed from there if they do well... 

    I'm not too excited about the roster as it sits right now.


    E Will and Batum make 12

    yes I said it Batum

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/11/2012 11:00 AM

    Forgetting Elliot Williams, then we will likely resign Batum, Hickson and Pryzbilla then round it out with a summer league player or a low price free agent guard like CJ Watson or John Lucas III. 

    That is not a playoff team imo
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/11/2012 11:00 AM

    Oh what do I know anymore? (via Stein)-

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/11/2012 11:04 AM

    Of course they are but he will be a Net next year
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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 07/11/2012 11:07 AM

    I agree this has been a very disappointing off season.  I have not seen anything I like about Freeland and we signed him up for three years.  We lost Hibbert and we will probably sign and trade with Min for Batum and we will get someone of lesser value.  I see this as o for 3.  Our team will definitely be in the lottery next year.  If we sign Claver we will be 0 for 4.
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 07/11/2012 11:16 AM

    lol.  

    yeah i forgot about elliot...  shouldn't have cuz I like him. 

    I'm trying to be optimistic about our roster because I like the youth, exuberance, athleticism, but I think we're going to have problems stopping teams, defensively I think we're going to look terrible at times and we will get blown out of some games.  It could look like a train wreck at times.  but we got guys who can put up points, it's just tough to put such high expectations on our 3 rookies, but the way I see it, they're going to be forced into learning fast and playing a hoard of minutes... that can be good... but there's a learning curve and there'll be many problems along the way and for that reason, I think anyone thinking this is a playoff team is overly optimistic.  

    and yeah, i'm not buying Brook.  Unless Brooklyn's giving up on Dwight, which I hadn't heard they were, well, Brook from what I understand has to be part of the deal or Orlando's not going to go for it.  But I also heard there were no less than 3 first rounders involved and teams were balking.  So.  Who knows.  I love when portland signs guys, I like when they actively pursue them, but I equally hate this time of year because every writer wants to grab headlines with their speculative bullcrap and just as they're talking about brook, well, they could say the same shit about mcgee, kaman, etc... and we're not hearing the blazers or olshey telling us they're pursuing or made an offer, so to me it's all speculative bullshit.... beatwriter haven.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/11/2012 11:33 AM

    Boom you should add your thoughts to my new thread on why we will not make the playoffs
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/11/2012 11:50 AM

    There's no denying that offensively, Lopez and Aldridge would be the best 4-5 combo offensively in the league. But we would need to really crash the glass as both players aren't known for their rebounding prowess.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/11/2012 12:08 PM

    I think Gasol and Bynum would have a pretty good argument against that notion. 
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 07/11/2012 12:19 PM

    Good call, cmeese. Gasol/Bynum is still above the standard when it comes to offensive front court. You still have to like the fact that Aldridge and Lopez both have all the post moves up their sleeves.

    I agree though, that we would suffer on the boards, and that's crucial since you'll have your guards and SF bothering shots from the perimeter or from mid-range. You have to pull those rebounds down, or it's like giving up an inside pass. Brook Lopez is coming off a 3.6 rpg season... 3.6!!! That's a PG's rebounding numbers. I think that in and of itself is enough to pass up on him. I think we need more rebounding and defense from a center, with just enough offense to lighten LA's load... a Greg Oden comes to mind. Damn his knees!
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 07/11/2012 12:24 PM

    isn't the word that brooklyn's prepared to offer brook more than anyone else?  I think people should be asking orlando what they're prepared to pay brook b/c my understanding is they'll get a deal done with brooklyn b/c that's where dwight wants to go.  so brook should be with orlando purty soon, no?  I like mcgee because of his shot blocking ability.  

    I think if portland can get hickson re-signed, he's a banger.  I don't know his rebounding numbers, but to me he's a much more athletic version of jerome kersey... a strong banger scrapper type and he can score.  I think his rugged style complements both meyers, aldridge, and potentially mcgee because they all bring varying facets to the table and hickson's toughest of all them.  well, meyers is getting tougher himself.  

    I really wanted a guy like Terrence Jones in the draft, but only if Portland wasn't going to keep Hickson and I reallly think Portland needs to pony up the dough for Hickson.  He's not even in his prime yet; fans have yet to see what he's capable of and while he won't be scoring 20 ppg with Aldridge in the lineup, he can play on the court with LA at the same time... in fact if we ever want to go big and strong against a team like LA, Meyers, LA, and Hickson would be awesome.  imposing.
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  1. Andy Blacksmith
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    Posted 07/11/2012 12:33 PM

    Were not signing a Vet anything. Olshey made it clear he wants to sign players who are around the same age as our core group of players.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/11/2012 12:49 PM

    Lopez is not as bad of a rebounder as he was last year but he is probably closer to the 5.5 number than 7 earlier in his career though which is not enough for us but considering he will be on the Nets next year it does not matter.
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  1. ashine24
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    Posted 07/11/2012 1:01 PM

    Brook Lopez averaged 3.6 rebounds in the 5 games he played all last year lol. In 2011-12 he averaged 5.9, 2010-2011 he averaged 8.7 and 2009-10 he was at 8.1. I'm not sure what changed in his game or the Nets' offense to cause him to drop from 8.7 to 5.9 in his last real season, but he can rebound if he wants to.
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  1. benh7777
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    Posted 07/11/2012 1:16 PM

    Posted By D_pickett on 07/11/2012 12:19 PM

    I agree though, that we would suffer on the boards, and that's crucial since you'll have your guards and SF bothering shots from the perimeter or from mid-range. You have to pull those rebounds down, or it's like giving up an inside pass. Brook Lopez is coming off a 3.6 rpg season... 3.6!!! That's a PG's rebounding numbers. I think that in and of itself is enough to pass up on him. I think we need more rebounding and defense from a center, with just enough offense to lighten LA's load... a Greg Oden comes to mind. Damn his knees!


    Brook Lopez only played 5 games last year. He could have and would have played alot more of the season but NJ was playing it safe in hopes of using him as a main piece to get Howard there. Over all he is at 8-9 rebounds per night avg. I find it a tad unfair to measure his rebounding skills after his last 5 games coming back from a foot injury.


    NJ has already offered a max deal to Lopez.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/11/2012 2:49 PM

    BroPez is off the market (via Woj)-
     Brooklyn has reached agreement on a 4-year, $61 million max deal with Brook Lopez, league source tells Y! Sports.

    Olshey also said today that the Wolves aren't offering up much in terms of a sign and trade for Batum and that he still plans on matching any offer.
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  1. Andy Blacksmith
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    Posted 07/11/2012 3:06 PM

    Don't forget that Kaman is off the market too. David Aldridge: Source confirms Mavs will sign free agent center Chris Kaman to deal, per @Marc Stein. Will not be a sign and trade with Hornets Twitter

    Not that we were totally after him, but centers are pretty much gone. 
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  1. mgrantporter
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    Posted 07/11/2012 3:06 PM

    I'm glad Brook Lopez is off the market. He may have piqued interest due to his offensive game, but everything else about him tells me that he is not worth a max contract. He just came off an injury-plagued season, his rebounding numbers are very mediocre for his position, and he isn't the best defender in the league by any means of the imagination. 

    As for matching the offer on Batum, I am happy about that. There is no reason to take less for Batum than we should in a trade simply because he wants to be in Minnesota. No way. Good for Olshey to stand his ground against the Timberwolves and against Batum's agent.
  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/11/2012 3:07 PM

    Course not they just want us to take crap contracts
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 07/11/2012 3:38 PM



    i like how the subject line of this thread keeps getting updated.

    I'm waiting to hear Hickson and McGee's names next.

    anyone think they'll be offered max contracts by anyone?
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  1. pball8478
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    Posted 07/11/2012 3:44 PM

    Joel Freeland and Victor Claver are coming to Portland , Claver is official. Freeland, has said he will be here but they have to iron out his buy out still. So there is two additions. As to how well their skills will transfer from Spanish league to NBA, we will see. A center/PF in Joel Freeland at 25 yo, 6-11 250 Lbs, with 73.5 % Free throw percentage, 12.9 pts/gm and 7.5 RPG in Spanish league. A PF/SF in Victor Claver at 23 yo 6-10 236 lbs 9.4 Pts/gm and 3.7 RPG  61% free throw percentage. Both stats from 2011-2012 Spanish league.
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  1. boomtown
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    Posted 07/11/2012 3:50 PM

    i know you're all going to say they're not worth it... hickson and mcgee that is... not worth max contracts, but I dunno.   I think hickson's worth it.  

    If you look at his last 19 games...

    15 ppg
    8.3 rpg
    shot 54%

    the ppg and % are career highs, he passed and blocked better than he has before.  He's very active on the offensive glass, gets up and down the court, hustles, plays hard, complements Aldridge because where Aldridge is soft, Hickson's strong... Hickson brings toughness to the table portland needs... plus this kid is young, energetic, improving, and I know cmeese will crunch numbers and say he's not worth it, others too, but I don't care about money, really, this kid's the real deal... loved him in college, love the improvements he's made, love the effort.... more than anything I love the toughness... he can play on the court at the same time with LA, even with him and meyers... big front-court.... toughness with hickson and meyers.  I think fans will love it.   My only fear is hickson's not used enough, but I think he's going to command big money and he'll earn his keep... and well... for the money he'll be making, they'll feel obligated to play him and he won't let the team down.  

    I want him and I don't care what it costs.
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  1. Andy Blacksmith
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    Posted 07/11/2012 3:52 PM

    And because of exactly what pball posted, no JJ Hickson. Maybe Javale McGee though, we will see.
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  1. pball8478
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    Posted 07/11/2012 4:04 PM

    I think we can still afford Hickson and Mcgee actually, though we wont go after anymore big FA I don't think. According to Olshey  Batum had a change of heart and may be back on board, realizing we are building a nucleus around him and LA. So we will see
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  1. Andy Blacksmith
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    Posted 07/11/2012 4:07 PM

    It's not that we can't afford him it's just that wheres the playing time gonna come from? Aldridge is our starting PF, Claver switches between the two, and Freeland is a forward. And you can bet the Victor and Joel aren't going to come over here to not play.
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  1. pball8478
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    Posted 07/11/2012 4:10 PM

    Oh in my opinion other than Batum, JJ Hickson was are most important player to resign. We will regret it if we don't he has a niche in are offense and him and LA can play well to together and complement Batum.
    Even if we just resign Batum, offered Pryz a one year contract and acquired JJ Hickson at this point we would be in good shape I think. 
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  1. pball8478
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    Posted 07/11/2012 4:12 PM

    Maybe need a veteran PG presence? any suggestions there at whats left Aaron Brooks offer sheet was pulled by the Suns, so he is available.
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  1. pball8478
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    Posted 07/11/2012 4:14 PM

    I think Joel  Freeland can play center too.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/11/2012 4:16 PM

    Via Ric Bucher- Blazers, Wolves Talking Trade
     The Trail Blazers and Timberwolves are discussing a deal that would bring Portland free-agent forward Nicolas Batum to Minnesota in exchange for two future first-round draft picks and a veteran small forward acquired from a third team, a league source told ESPN The Magazine's Ric Bucher.

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  1. pball8478
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    Posted 07/11/2012 4:17 PM

    And Hickson can play the PF and SF position. We can mix and match line ups
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  1. pball8478
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    Posted 07/11/2012 4:18 PM

    I would be happy with a sign and trade for Batum, if  it was the right player, but really I hope he stays.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 07/11/2012 4:19 PM

    Hell Yah two first round picks is exactly what I wanted for Batum so while the deal might be a little different than my option c thread but this deal might be better.
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  1. pball8478
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    Posted 07/11/2012 4:23 PM

    AS IS are line up looks something likes this assuming the Freeland thing is done. this isn't by position just a list of players on that we know of.
    L. Aldridge              M. Leonard
    L. Babbitt               D. Lilliard              
    W. Matthews          V. Claver
    E. Williams            J. Freeland
    N. Smith               Batum (on the fence) we will see       
    W. Barton
    I am a fan of Blazers making the playoffs in 2012, and developing young talent.
  1. pball8478
    pball8478
    Posts: 86

    Posted 07/11/2012 4:29 PM

    If Batum stays I guess Are starting 5 could look like.
    L Aldridge
    D. Lilliard
    Batum
    W.Matthews
    M. Leonard
    I am a fan of Blazers making the playoffs in 2012, and developing young talent.
  1. pball8478
    pball8478
    Posts: 86

    Posted 07/11/2012 4:29 PM

    If Batum stays I guess Are starting 5 could look like.
    L Aldridge
    D. Lilliard
    Batum
    W.Matthews
    M. Leonard
    I am a fan of Blazers making the playoffs in 2012, and developing young talent.
  1. boomtown
    boomtown
    Posts: 272

    Posted 07/11/2012 4:55 PM

    yeah, i don't know what to expect in freeland and claver, i know what to expect in hickson and I'm not worried about spreading minutes b/c Hickson will earn his... he'll show he's going to be hard to keep on the bench and he won't just backup LA, ur right pball, they can play together.  we could have a great frontcourt and it sounds like batum's probably going to get traded, so a feasible lineup at times could be meyers, la, hickson, matthews, and lillard... maybe even a starting lineup. I don't care what position you classify them as, hell, put LA at small forward... most opposing small forwards are going to camp on the perimeter like batum did anyway... LA can step out and guard 'em.. he don't rebound any better than meyers and hickson and he's not as strong as them, so what the hell.  it works.
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