Confirmed: Bayless to New Orleans for a future round-pick.
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  1. McLegend
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    Posted 10/24/2010 12:04 PM

    Good move from Cho. I have a feeling as well this will be a great move for us down the road, I just don't know when... 
    I am a fan of making Kobe cry in the Western Conference Finals.
  1. Crim
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    Posted 10/24/2010 12:46 PM

    I wouldn't go so far as voting Tom off the island just yet, at least his points are intelligible, however you should only lay into an e-persona once (at most), after all you don't know TayC the person, you only know of his ability to articulate through the written word. He may be semi-decent in person, he just either can't get his point across in an agreeable way, or he is a glutton for punishment and likes to be accosted by his blazer-fan-peers. First time Tayc went beyond weird into the realm of  crazy I decided it wasn't worth my time, Tom, hop on board, lots of room on this bandwagon.
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 10/24/2010 1:51 PM

    Posted By Crim on 10/24/2010 12:46 PM
    I wouldn't go so far as voting Tom off the island just yet, at least his points are intelligible, however you should only lay into an e-persona once (at most), after all you don't know TayC the person, you only know of his ability to articulate through the written word. He may be semi-decent in person, he just either can't get his point across in an agreeable way, or he is a glutton for punishment and likes to be accosted by his blazer-fan-peers. First time Tayc went beyond weird into the realm of  crazy I decided it wasn't worth my time, Tom, hop on board, lots of room on this bandwagon.

    I was unaware of that e persona rule! ha ha. Crim the problem is Tay trolls me all the time, he follows me around and puts words in my mouth and then tries to tell everyone how I contradict myself. If it weren't for people like Bertram who will skim things and think they know everything about the situation, like only reading what I say or what Tay says about me I wouldn't mind. I am mostly trying to clarify things and defend myself from Tay so the Bertrams won't think I said these things that Tay says, and I am pretty blunt and sometimes I over do it. But yeah i keep trying to jump on that bandwagon but every time I go to jump, he calls me out on something again.
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 10/24/2010 1:53 PM

    Posted By Bertram on 10/24/2010 8:54 AM
    Can we have a vote to vote TomL out of the forums kind of like those reality shows? Every time he posts I can like predict what he's going to say.

    (insert smart mouth insult)(insert some basketball knowledge[insert insult])(insert personal attacks)

    It's pretty tiring, and least...hmm who was that guy...mblazer? Back a few years ago, who was pretty predictable also gave kudos every once so often.
    This is funny Bertram. Let's break down your own post along with your own formula.

    (insert smart mouth insult)

    Can we have a vote to vote TomL out of the forums kind of like those reality shows?

    (insert some basketball knowledge[insert insult])

    Every time he posts I can like predict what he's going to say.  [You just skipped the basketball knowledge part]

    (insert personal attacks)

    It's pretty tiring, and least...hmm who was that guy...mblazer? Back a few years ago, who was pretty predictable also gave kudos every once so often.

    I can generalize your overreactions too, like you saying Rich Cho is garbage without giving him one hour to put his full plan into effect. I'm sure that he didn't just do this ONLY to free up a spot just to free up a spot for the whole season! But I guess I would be disappointed too if I expected to get cp3 for jbay.
    Or you saying all I do is insult and never give kudos. Are you just mad because I don't ever agree with you? I give kudos all the time, just never to you because I don't remember ever reading anything you said that was worthwhile. You say silly things before knowing the final outcome frequently. I may disagree but please tell me who else I have insulted like that besides TayC? You are jumping to conclusions again like you have been. I don't know if you always do it because I don't go reading all your posts.
    I am a fan of comcast and the blazers making deals that keep screwing us over!! woot!
  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 10/24/2010 3:02 PM

    @Bertram: you should be aware that in your 'vote Tom off the island' plea, you pretty much acted exactly the way you are accusing him of acting. sorry, but i'm not a huge fan of hypocracy. Tom is right that you need to take into account Cho's plan before automatically bashing him. you said yourself that you felt better about this deal after learning of the trade exception. the big picture makes a lot more sense than the small.

    @all: i've had minor issues with Tay, myself, but the bottom line is i do not deem him as credible in the least. i mean, jeez, the last thing i read from him was a supposed e-mail that he made up -- full of his lies -- that i had allgedly sent to him. he is an untruthful, dishonest and uninformed troll who only comes here to instigate conflict.

    @Kim: i really like you, but i think most of us posting don't need to be constantly reminded of what this site/message board is about.

    Jerryd is gone and, according to twitter, Patrick Mills has his fingers crossed. that brings up the big question in my mind: Patrick or a free agent big? any thoughts?

    ~ Kassandra

    I am a fan of my team fighting to win each and every game.
  1. TayC
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    Posted 10/24/2010 3:29 PM

    Posted By Kassandra on 10/23/2010 9:55 PM
    people, people please, the hornets are NOT dumping Paul this year. Andre IS going to be the starting pg (this trade doesn't really affect his role). i know a lot of people want or even think this type of deal could happen. obviously, it's not.

    Jerryd has talent, but according to the espn story, he will be coming off the bench for them. he'll do well for them. with us, he won't get the minutes to develop into the player we want him to be. we're better off moving on now and looking toward the future. the draft pick, along with the trade exception, are pretty equal compensation for Jerryd.

    i hate to even do this, but Tay, once again you show your complete ignorance about the game of basketball. 1. the odds of Jerryd ever becoming an all-star are extremely slim. he'll be a solid player for years to come, but there's no way anyone can predict him to be a 'future all-star.' 2.r. 3. you really think Andre will have trouble staying healthy ... the guy has only missed five games in 11 seasons. he's just about the least injury prone guy in the league.

    ~ Kassandra
    Aww, you just cant keep your hands out of my cookie jar can ya? 143.

    � but there's no way anyone can predict him to be a 'future all-star
    Well, i just did..... This guy needs to get down in NO. He needs to be worked out properly, with a mentor like chris paul, I beg to differ with your opinion on whether or not he will become one, but ill leave it, because i know how upset you get when someone disagrees with your opinions..... :D
    � every time you draft aand sign a rookie, you're signing an 'inexperienced' player

    Yes, i know, if you would be so kind as to re read what i had stated, I was saying that, the teams problem is the constant signing of inexperienced players. They would rather trade a PG who is just getting a feel for the game, a feel for the team, with a couple years experience, for a future draft pick. And this now requires them to have a rookie backup PG instead of one who has 2 years experience. That was my point, and i did not understand why they would do that?

    �you really think Andre will have trouble staying healthy ... the guy has only missed five games in 11 seasons. he's just about the least injury prone guy in the league.
    He's old, let me rephrase that, he's getting older. Thats sound logic right there. Not to mention this team maintain the reputation as the healthiest team in the league.

    This is coming from the same guy that said people who believe in an NBA ref conspiracy are "lunatics" and you don't believe in that "hocus pocus sad story" and yet you are telling us the real conspiracy is (some unspecified person) is working for another team in our division. 

    Thank you once again, for eating up every word i type. Your such a good lap dog. I was actually not being serious tom, i mean even your not crazy enough to believe that right? Then again.....
    Hey genius, WE ALREADY LOST BAYLESS! And no GM would be stupid enough to trade Chris Paul straight up for Bayless. And how would acquiring CP3 now be illogical? And your last two sentences don't even make sense! You are illogical, irrelevant and you contradict yourself all the time.
    Seriously Tay, you are the stupidest person I've ever seen on here. You can call me rude, a know it all, a jerk, I don't care, but you are so stupid you wouldn't know up from down if I gave you three guesses.

    Do you really envy me that much? As to follow me throughout this whole post, and specifically look for me, and things i said, so that you can type up some same ol' lame insult? Tom, please, youre embarrassing yourself. You must really have a thing for me huh?

    Aquiring CP3 illogical, here is why Thomas: This team doesnt need anymore gaurds, we need a center who can play a whole season. Hence the sarcastic "is he playing center" question?  CP3 is a great player, but we dont need him.  The team i feel is almost being run like a fantasy team, this guy Cho just wants all these young kids, he only focuses on his starters. Thats how i feel, so STHU about it, your not going to change my mind.

     You even quoted my example, so why didnt you read it? How are you going to attack me when you dont even read anything i type? hahaha.
    This team needs Cp3 about as bad as they need LeBron james, was my example.

    Why dont you read, you know the thing that i cant do, the first post of the damn thread. Before you were even involved. And then honestly tell me that you didnt reply to my posts, with the intention of being and @$$hole. 
    Because frankly Tom, i dont think you realize, how infatuated you are with me. You talk about me more than basketball, youre on the wrong site man, you might go here.  I would just love to see you come on here one day, and try to not talk about me, that would be a miracle on ice bro. I mean look at you, youre a straight up monster, you cant take criticism  worth a ____! So you feel vulnerable and immediately  go on the offense, pointing out people's flaws, because youre so unsatisfied with your own. Its pathetic look at you, desperately trying to explain yourself to these people on the forums, is that how much you care about insulting me? Do what Crim did, if you dont like me, or what i say then grow up and leave it be, because youre showing everyone else on here that you are just as childish as you make ME out to be. 
    I think youre still trippen about that ONE  time, when i mistook dhawes post for youres, and youre still all butt hurt that you couldnt squeeze and formal apology out of me. Ive only done what you told me to do tom, read the entire thread, all the posts, before creating my own, and you see now that i do that i find myself constantly disagreeing with what you say, maybe not always, but alot of the time. So yeah, ill call you out on it, you know, try to get some explanation to why you believe so. But you dont even get that far, you immediately start to trip out, and then proceed to call me the same things you have been saying since day one. YOu literally say the same thing in each post, and continue to say that i am "unoriginal" and " stupid", and im supposed to be the child? I troll the forums, looking for the opportunnity to make a dumb post, and youre  right behind me with a stupid one, like you dont make sense, when you call someone a name for doing something, and youre doing the exact same thing, if not WORSE! You just cant drop it, you want me so bad, and i dont know what to tell you, lately i have made attempts to try and stay on topic and stick to the point, but when you march in here flappin at the mouth with all your BS about me, im not the type of guy who could ignore it, Crim can, and i envy that, i wish i could. But you, youre like the Temple of Doom straight up  bro, i just cant get away from you and all your tricks. 




    I dont like that bayless was traded, for a draft pick, this team needs players, not future picks. Cho has like the youngest bench right now, i find that very dissapointing, because of the lack of experience. We need a center, we need a PF with height like LA, we have too many gaurds. Alot of people on here, the other day were ready to say goodbye to mills and or pendergraph, but now that jerryd is gone, its all open arms to either. I try to stick with what i say, and the fact that some people would want mills to play is strange because most people would say we have too many gaurds, we dont need anymore gaurds.
    So just read through what i say, and before you open your big ignorant mouth and type just such a repetitive post, re read it., and then maybe one more time.


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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 10/24/2010 3:35 PM

    Yup it's called admitting to your mistakes. I'll be the first to tell you I did overreact with my initial raw emotion, but after actually thinking about the move and learning about the trade exception created it's all good.

    TomL: No one ever said we were getting CP3 for Jbay that's just, for lack of a better word, retarded. 
    It's also funny how your saying I jump to conclusions before the final outcome...if I'm not mistaken things that happen in the off-season is all about predictions...or "jumping to conclusions." Only started re-posting around August. And yeah I skim through some posts that probably don't have much content.

    Lastly, I don't really care if people agree with my opinion or not, this is a discussion board after all. 

    On to more important things about what Kassandra said at the end of her post. With Oberto recently being signed to the team our big man depth is now Camby, Pryz, Oden, Aldridge, Cunningham and of course Oberto; there doesn't seem to be a need to bring in another big man with Pryz maybe coming back mid to late November, and Oden sometime after that. So that leaves the Patrick Mills option, to keep him or release him? Our PG depth is currently Miller with AJ backing him up. Also seems that the blazers want to run Matthews and BRoy together, both of which can handle the ball. With that said I don't think we need Patty Mills.
    I am a fan of B-Roy and LaMonster!
  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 10/24/2010 4:05 PM

    roflmao! look at all that lie-filled rhetoric ... and Tay says he doesn't take this too seriousy. blah blah blah. hypcritical, fight-instigating troll. Tay: no in-depth response needed since you have absolutely no credibility whatsoever.

    @Bertram: fair enough on the first point. on the response to my inquiry, you wouldn't necessarily look for another big, but not sign Mills ... so what position/player might you target?

    ~ Kassandra
    I am a fan of my team fighting to win each and every game.
  1. Bertram
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    Posted 10/24/2010 4:16 PM

    I think it should just be left open. It creates more opportunities for trade or if our depth gets depleted again and need to sign a player. Patty Mills doesn't have the biggest trade value out there so having him on the team or not having him on the team doesn't gain or lose anything from an asset stand point. Where we do lose though is in practices your down a body and it's not like football where you have a practice squad.
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  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 10/24/2010 4:26 PM

    Posted By Bertram on 10/24/2010 4:16 PM
    I think it should just be left open. It creates more opportunities for trade or if our depth gets depleted again and need to sign a player. Patty Mills doesn't have the biggest trade value out there so having him on the team or not having him on the team doesn't gain or lose anything from an asset stand point. Where we do lose though is in practices your down a body and it's not like football where you have a practice squad.

    are you afraid Nate might have to join practice again?!

    i've heard it mentioned before to leave that spot open. who knows what else Cho is up to and it might come in handy in another trade scenario? personally, i'd rather sign Patty and have three natural pg's on the roster.

    ~ Kassandra
    I am a fan of my team fighting to win each and every game.
  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 10/24/2010 4:32 PM

    Crim see what I mean?

    Tay speaking of infatuation... look at the length of your ridiculous post! That is infatuated.
    You have told me to go to that friendfinder site in 95%of your messages, as well as tell me I am infatuated, and vulnerable over and over! In fact you even say it to others here. The funniest thing is you never even have an original thought, as soon as I or someone else say something negative about you, you find some way to turn it around and make an irrational parallel to us just to get back at us like a child. And WOW you finally admitted you were wrong about the dhawes post! But you still are not man enough to apologize. You can call someone butthurt all you want to cover your own butt, but the fact remains you were wrong and you never apologized for calling me out incorrectly like a jackass. But at least now you admit it like 3 months later. I'm good with that, even though every one else here (except maybe Bertram) already knew that. Also there is no way that it would be illogical for us to have cp3 now!! You say the dumbest things, I swear. When would it be illogical for any team to have cp3?? We should have 3 really good centers in a month or two and all that's changed since the cp3 rumors were on fire is we traded away bayless... who you probably like just because somehow he reminds you of Allen Iverson who you think should be starting here!!
    Tay if you would just shut your mouth and quit talking to me, I would agree to disagree and quit talking to you.

    Kassandra, I really wanted to say that to Kim, but figured everyone would have thought I was picking another fight. Coming from you though, it will go over much smoother!

    Bertram
      in your OP you said you were still crossing your fingers for cp3! So yes I agree that is retarded. And jumping to conclusions 1 minute after one deal the GM has made and then calling him garbage and saying trade him is WAAYY different than season predictions. That's not even a prediction.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 10/24/2010 4:43 PM

    Like I said above I admitted to my mistake. And I'm still crossing my fingers on landing Cp3 until February trade deadline passes, though I know it's most likely not going to happen, but hey Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol? Anything can happen.
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 10/24/2010 4:47 PM

    Posted By Bertram on 10/24/2010 4:16 PM
    I think it should just be left open. It creates more opportunities for trade or if our depth gets depleted again and need to sign a player. Patty Mills doesn't have the biggest trade value out there so having him on the team or not having him on the team doesn't gain or lose anything from an asset stand point. Where we do lose though is in practices your down a body and it's not like football where you have a practice squad.
    We have enough for 5 on 5 with subs so I don't see where we lose. And actually the less backup options we have the better for Nate because he can never make up his mind. I mean seriously, last year when Nate started Dre Roy and Blake I was goin nuts! That is one thing that Cho seems to be doing for Nate, limiting his options and I like that. So far I like that he is more business oriented and not buddy buddy, I think that not only does Nate need that, but so does Roy. It's a business and they need to start performing.
    I am a fan of comcast and the blazers making deals that keep screwing us over!! woot!
  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 10/24/2010 4:50 PM

    Posted By Bertram on 10/24/2010 4:43 PM
    Like I said above I admitted to my mistake. And I'm still crossing my fingers on landing Cp3 until February trade deadline passes, though I know it's most likely not going to happen, but hey Kwame Brown for Pau Gasol? Anything can happen.

    Don't remind me of that deal! That would never happen to us, and it has conveniently happened more than once for the Lakers. hmmm
    And you admitted your mistake but I guess you still want to vote me off the island?
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 10/24/2010 4:52 PM

    One less body=less time for rest. The loss isn't much I agree with that, but had to find some kind of loss no matter how minimal it is.
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  1. Crim
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    Posted 10/24/2010 5:15 PM

    Wow i walk away for a bit and you guys have a war.

    Tom, just don't feed the fire my man, your ranked first just in front of me in the special olympics, so ease up and let Tayc get his bronze.

    Kassandra - how come you never address me, I may not be stanford smart but i have strong credible points, is it cause I don't take the time to find a picture of my ugly mug to throw up here?

    Bertram we've barely agreed on much but your still my boy, just thought i'd throw that in there.


    Tayc, keep on keepin' on.
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  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 10/24/2010 5:32 PM

    Crim: i don't think i'm higher than anyone just because i attend one of the top five colleges in the country on an academic scholarship! i actually was responding to some others. yes, you do have credible points, though i think your thoughts on Tom commenting to Tay missed the mark; i think my earlier comments should clarify that. as for the picture ... well, it really doesn't take all that much time!

    ~ Kassandra
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 10/24/2010 5:41 PM

    Crim how come you didn't tell Kassandra to ease up after she did the same thing I did? And how come you've never addressed me before, is it because I do have my handsome mug up? Oh wait you have addressed me before. You didn't like my opinion of Nate and told me to shut my hole. Now you are telling me to ease up because I'm leading the special olympics. ha ha. My how you have changed! Anyway it's all good.
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  1. Andre DeNegri
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    Posted 10/24/2010 5:51 PM

    This is not a bad trade at all, how is having 6+ guards going to help us? It's not, especially with Rudy complaining about minutes, yes Bayless had passion, but he couldn't really work into Portland's eventual plans for a Championship. This is just a positive, giving Rudy and Mathews (plus others) more playing time.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 10/24/2010 6:03 PM

     Again, please keep it basketball related. Take your personal bs elsewhere. Or this thread will be locked.

    Bertram, I would like a mrblazer appearance again.
     Since, I for one, am already over Rex. My next question would be how valuable will the draft pick and exemption be worth in February ?  I would take a good look at the 2 young centers from Georgetown,that have already taken their rookie lumps in the east, over a rookie next season.
    Bigs from Georgetown have a high success rate.
    But I'm sure the scouts have it under control.  :)

    2 days and counting !  GO BLAZERS !!

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  1. FamousRoy
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    Posted 10/24/2010 6:44 PM

    I kinda like it when TayC and TomL fight.  It's pretty amusing.  I also like it when Kassandra gets in on it.  Tom and Kassandra seriously hate TayC!  I'm not exactly a fan of him either, but in any case, Kim's probably right about taking those arguments elsewhere.

    Anyway, it's good to see that BlazerNation is accepting the trade now.  It was unquestionably a good one, almost as good as the Camby/Blake/Travis trade last season.  As much as I loved Pritchard, it did take him over 6 years to see Travis's many flaws.  It took Cho a matter of months to see Bayless's, and he acted with a successful trade.  Cho has certainly impressed me so far.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 10/24/2010 6:44 PM

     Rhetoric
    Wow, ive never seen you use that word before, i got one for you.
    Vo-cab-u-lary. and then try, Ex-pand.
    Alright, im gonna just lay this out, even though i shouldn't reply to either of you imbeciles.
    Kassandra : your still a little girl, so i can understand why youre so stubborn. All the fancy posts that you have made, things youve typed, everything you have ever been credited for, goes out the window, when you presume to know what i think. That is just asinine. Its now completely apparent that you DO think youre better that others, like what does going to Stanford matter, on this website? Or are you going to need youre degree to explain that one? Well you dont, because it has nothing to do with anything, you go to a school, thats about it, scholarship or not, youre still very poor mannered.  Like please dont ever address another post to me, it would be so distasteful. I dont know why you continue to talk to me anyway if i am so annoying, you must really be a lonley girl, but like i have said before, youre personality among other things, youre just not my type. Like at first, you were right, i was making it up about you having a thing for me. But now, i am starting to think that tom might have a little competition. If you really meant half of the things that you type about me, then like a big girl, you would have ceased discussion long ago. But there is something irresistible about me huh>? Its my charm, so ive been told ;D

    Wow tom, i totally predicted everything you were going to say, youre just living proof of my point. Are you jealous that my post is longer than yours? Youre the only one that has gotten those links actually and that was the first time i actually used friend finder, the other one, was wiki how to make friends, but im the one who cant read. You wonder why youre being reprimanded and others arent? Its because youre rude. You cant make a single post on here with out insulting someone, you cant respect an opinion to save youre life. I mean look at you, did you like mark it down on youre little calender?
     And WOW you finally admitted you were wrong about the dhawes post! 

    Have you been keeping track of the days, because its just sooo important? hahah, thats soo cute, that you thought of me like that.  Its funny how much youre letting everyone know how much this website means to you, from my point of view, its all you got. So i dont want to take up youre role, and say something i have already said before, so ill stop, and if they lock the thread they lock it, its not going to prevent this bloke from shootin on me or anyone else in the next thread that pops up. Anyway, im still rooting for you Tommy, try not to reply, ill give you a million dollars if you can just hold youre tongue, just once, can you do i


    Going to miss not getting a picture of Bayless on wed. 
    Wow, georgetown, thats where allen iverson out of, and i think patrick ewing son went there.

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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 10/24/2010 6:46 PM

    Yes keep all personal bs  elsewhere, except when talking about mrblazer.

    And Georgetown bigs have a higher success rate? Patrick Ewing, Dikembe, Alonzo, none of them ever won a championship except Alonzo, and that is because Shaq played the starting center role. We can't have everything we want and right now we are stuck with Oden and hoping he stays healthy, but at least we don't have to hope when he is healthy if he is going to be a great player. It just sucks because if we do trade him and he never gets hurt again and dominates the league (because he will if he stays healthy) every one will hate on the Blazers, but if we keep him and he does stay injury prone everyone will hate on the Blazers.
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 10/24/2010 6:54 PM

    Posted By FamousRoy on 10/24/2010 6:44 PM
    I kinda like it when TayC and TomL fight.  It's pretty amusing.  I also like it when Kassandra gets in on it.  Tom and Kassandra seriously hate TayC!  I'm not exactly a fan of him either, but in any case, Kim's probably right about taking those arguments elsewhere.

    Anyway, it's good to see that BlazerNation is accepting the trade now.  It was unquestionably a good one, almost as good as the Camby/Blake/Travis trade last season.  As much as I loved Pritchard, it did take him over 6 years to see Travis's many flaws.  It took Cho a matter of months to see Bayless's, and he acted with a successful trade.  Cho has certainly impressed me so far.
    Maybe we should start charging admission. ha ha! Yes I agree, Cho seems to be doing just fine no matter how impatient every one gets. I liked Travis as a person but he took many ill advised shots and never rebounded but I could not stand Blake game at all, I thought every one over valued him as well, especially Nate, and that trade for Camby was a great trade for us, not only for bringing in Camby but also freeing Nate from himself and over playing Blake, and trading JB does a similar thing this season.

    And Tay, YOU ARE THE LAST PERSON TO TALK TO ANY ONE ABOUT VOCABULARY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    What an idiot.
    I am a fan of comcast and the blazers making deals that keep screwing us over!! woot!
  1. Kassandra
    Kassandra
    Posts: 466

    Posted 10/24/2010 7:47 PM

    @Tay: once again, no need to read what is surely to be a personal attack (because you know no better). as i've told you time and time before, i don't care what you think; you have no credibility whatsoever. furthermore, before you experience more diarehha of the fingers, i will no longer be reading any more of your lies.

    @Kim: it concerns me that, as a moderator, your comments to tone things down never come after one of Tay's posts. perhaps you should go ahead and lock the thread.

    @FamousRoy: hatin' on Tay? nah, really just exposing his many flaws.

    @all: there's a great on-site video with reactions to the Bayless trade from Nate, Wesley, Brandon, Armon and Patrick. my favorite part is when Patrick calls Jerryd a good locker room "bloke!"
    I am a fan of my team fighting to win each and every game.
  1. Kim~
    Kim~
    Posts: 1137

    Posted 10/24/2010 8:13 PM

    Kassandra, this is not a daycare. I personally don't read Tay or Tom past the first couple of sentences.  
    Imo, it's to much bs I care nothing about, and I for one come here to talk basketball. I'm sure there are alot of adults who do also.  I do read you Kassandra, please don't lower yourself with trolls. People do get banned from the site.

    Maybe a better idea would be 2 sites, one for people under 13, and  one for those over. 
    It is the behavior, not the individual, I don't know anyone personally.
    I am a fan of scrapping !
  1. I''m OUT!
    I''m OUT!
    Posts: 1059

    Posted 10/24/2010 8:33 PM

    A mod playing favorites while admitting you don't even read the whole posts, that's nice. If you would read the posts you would see I get angry at Tay because he says ridiculous things to me about me and others, so I defend myself. I never have seen you say anything about him going around trolling people. And now you are lumping me in with the trolls? That is ridiculous. He does the same thing to your friend Kassandra, and she defends herself as well, but I guess she is not a troll but I am? And maybe we should have 2 sites, one for people who complain about Oden daily and one for those who are sick of hearing about it.
    I am a fan of comcast and the blazers making deals that keep screwing us over!! woot!
  1. blazersforlife234
    blazersforlife234
    Posts: 347

    Posted 10/24/2010 9:50 PM

    Oh my gosh, I can’t leave this thread for a few hours, then come back to see some new posts, without having a bunch of immature insult-filled posts. I’m 19 years old, and I figured most of you guys would be older, but I guess I was wrong. It’s the same people over and over, and I’m not gonna name names, that can’t post something without having to try to prove how smart they are and insult others on the site.  GROW UP PEOPLE… its so annoying trying to read the couple of intelligent people that post on this site, and I see people saying stupid things that don’t even make sense, and making attacks on others over and over. Talk Blazers, and leave the personal stuff out. You guys (you know who you are) are all ridiculous

    Thanks

    I am a fan of winning.
  1. LAS11291
    LAS11291
    Posts: 175

    Posted 10/24/2010 11:02 PM

    Wow, I'm gone for a few weeks going through a divorce and I come back to more drama. Lol
    Gotta love all the folks down here at "I am a Trailblazer Fan" site lol.

    TayC & TomL, settle down. lol
    Kassandra, I'd ask you to settle down, but you're just so damn fine I can't say it. lol

    OK, time to get down to business, I missed you guys lol.
    I'm back and forth on this trade, I thought Bayless played well throughout the playoffs,
    and was beginning to show everybody what he was made of.
    But, Cho calls the shots so lets all hope Cho has a scheme up his sleeve.
    He's a man who likes to play chess.
    Go ahead and knock out my rook, but I'm going to be the one taking the king by the end of this game.
    He see's the bigger picture, something us average individuals can't see. Let the man do his job.

    This trade frees up space at the 1 & 2 spots, and will hopefully keep our guards happy as far as PT goes.
    I don't see the Hornets making the playoffs, my money is on either the Grizzlies or the T-Wolves to surprise everybody and barely grab that 8th seed.
    Plus, with that draft pick we can pick up my little buddy Terrence Jones, (a SF/PF) who led Jefferson high school to 3 state championships :), and is expected to go 9th next year. Oh, and my man Terrence Ross is expected to be in the draft, watch for them haha. We got the Vegas connection (AJ & LB), now we just need the Portland connection lol
    I am a fan of you checking your email because Elliot Williams is sending you a message!
  1. kenny c.
    kenny c.
    Posts: 418

    Posted 10/24/2010 11:58 PM

    I know Roy said he wanted the ball more, but is anybody worried about him having it to much. Is anyone concerned about his P.T. being to high. Will he wear himself out being the man of many roles. I know Nate has A.J. and W.M., but I think we all know Nate Trusts ROY with the ball at this point and that would seem by default to put the ball in his hands most of the time. I know Roy is Awesome and can play the point, but something doesn't feel right about this idea. Nate said many of these combo guards can bring the ball up - Roy, Rudy, W.M. and A.J. and it is probably true (Nate knows his team best) I guess my question is, is there any concern about this situation, If so what?
    I am a fan of Winning
  1. I''m OUT!
    I''m OUT!
    Posts: 1059

    Posted 10/25/2010 2:02 AM

    I just wish Roy would learn to play off the ball better so Andre can decide who to give it to, and then I wish he would be aggressive from the start of games. I wouldn't mind him getting the ball more if he would do that and mix in some iso, but just running strictly iso more I don't think is a good idea. Neither is hucking up 3's all day long. I don't like the offense he wants to go back to. It didn't work well in the playoffs then, and it won't work now, and it didn't even work for Lebron. Roy is a really good player and extremely clutch, but I think he needs to mix it up a little more. I want there to be more plays that would make the Shonz say bingo bango bongo baby!
    I am a fan of comcast and the blazers making deals that keep screwing us over!! woot!
  1. Crim
    Crim
    Posts: 398

    Posted 10/25/2010 9:16 AM

    @ all - For the love of god, start breaking up your thoughts/paragraphs. Your not writing a Dickens Novel where you get paid by the word, let the white space be your friend, give our brains a break in between words, and don't let rants turn into one large run-on sentence.

    Kim- your my personal hero

    @ dude who called Kassandra hot (in my creepy Kip voice) - "I know and I'm totally pissed she won't send me a full body shot.

    @Tom - I'd open up gifts with you any christmas morning if you wore those PJ's, are those the ones with feet sewed on? Kick***
    I am a fan of Not Feeding the Trolls.
  1. laric33
    laric33
    Posts: 53

    Posted 10/25/2010 10:08 AM

    I agree we are stacked with guards, but i did like bayless and how he played, and i thought he had some mad potential. but... what can ya do... Good Luck Bayless!
    I am a fan of Getting and Maintaining Energy!
  1. LAS11291
    LAS11291
    Posts: 175

    Posted 10/25/2010 4:10 PM

    @Crim, LOL
    I am a fan of you checking your email because Elliot Williams is sending you a message!
  1. TayC
    TayC
    Posts: 1804

    Posted 10/25/2010 6:15 PM

    still blown away.
    he got traded for someone/thing  that doesnt exist yet
    I am a fan of The Blazers ♂, the £-Train, and of course, The ¤ King. ™
  1. Bertram
    Bertram
    Posts: 803

    Posted 10/25/2010 10:22 PM

    @Crim ha! I feel ya.

    @Kim yeah mrblazer was actually pretty entertaining and made some really good points.

    On to basketball. Looks like they signed Mills to add depth and are most likely going to take the next month or so to evaluate the roster, maybe making a move before the deadline.
    I am a fan of B-Roy and LaMonster!
  1. Kim~
    Kim~
    Posts: 1137

    Posted 10/26/2010 12:38 PM

    Tom and Tay just to clarify, and again I don't know either of you personally.
     It's not that I never read your posts. But I can only get as far as your arguing with each other, and I can't go on. So if you guys are making good points, you arent doing yourselves any favors with the arguing.
     Everyone needs reminders at times, myself included. 
     Things come across different in type than in person. I like the enthusiasm you both have. :)

    The season is here, so lets move forward !!
    I am a fan of scrapping !
  1. I''m OUT!
    I''m OUT!
    Posts: 1059

    Posted 10/26/2010 2:40 PM

    Crim that was just a robe, I don't think I ever had pj's with feet after I turned 4! Oh and LaFawnduh ha ha

    Kim I don't know why you keep putting me in the same category as Tay. Read some of his posts, not just to me. He starts things with people all the time, the other day he said something stupid to GuitarJ111 (who I don't think would ever try to start any thing with any one) for no reason , not to mention everything he says to Kassandra which usually consists of bigotry and chauvinism. Kassandra says it all the time but it is true, he is an instigator 95% of the time. On top of that he is irrational, illogical and self contradicting. I am passionate about certain things, the Blazers and my character to name a couple, and Tay attacks my character all the time as he likes to put words in my mouth so yeah, I get a little carried away sometimes. Plus he reminds me of my little brother when he was 8 and would do things to annoy me just because he knew he could get away with it.
    I am a fan of comcast and the blazers making deals that keep screwing us over!! woot!
  1. I''m OUT!
    I''m OUT!
    Posts: 1059

    Posted 10/26/2010 2:41 PM

    Whoops, and I agree! The season is here, let's move forward.
    I am a fan of comcast and the blazers making deals that keep screwing us over!! woot!
  1. TayC
    TayC
    Posts: 1804

    Posted 10/26/2010 3:47 PM

    L I G it man, 
    I am a fan of The Blazers ♂, the £-Train, and of course, The ¤ King. ™
  1. Morgan.Edeler
    Morgan.Edeler
    Posts: 12

    Posted 10/26/2010 7:59 PM

    the Blazers made a HUGE mistake getting rid of one of our signature players out of pure impatience. Jerryd Bayless was an amazing PG and even beoing only in his 2nd season has more than proved his dramatic ability to improve as not only a team player but a scorer and without fouling out in the first 2 minutes. Bayless will be greatly missed by many!
    -Bayless fan for life! 
    I am a fan of 3-pointers and 4th quarter come-backs, BLAZER NATION!!
  1. cransford24
    cransford24
    Posts: 269

    Posted 10/26/2010 11:08 PM

    this trade is looking better and better for the blazers since today armon, wesley, rudy and roy all took advantage of the absence of Bayless and played very well
    I am a fan of the Blazers draft selections. Feels good to finally be able to say that
  1. S. Diamond
    S. Diamond
    Posts: 22

    Posted 10/27/2010 5:17 AM

    Regarding the Jerryd Bayless trade...

    Personally, I would have rather seen JB developed more for another 1/2 to 3/4 season, but this is an acceptable move considering the fact that we are stacked at Guard. G.O. is out and Marcus Canby is questionable depending on what happens this season, even though he's guaranteed for the next 2 seasons. Having the extra $2 Mil to play with couldn't hurt us if we need a band-aid at center. Past experience showed that we needed that band-aid at Center.

    Yeah, JB hustles like hell on defense, but that's also par for the course at his position. His shooting % is, if I remember correctly, somewhere in the low 40% range and has shown he has a problem with the 3 ball... Rudy already steps up in the 3-ball department, IMO.

    In another light, this can still help us because he might come back later in his career and be of better help for us...? As I understand it, JB didn't want to leave PDX, so if a future trade back here happens that might give him inspiration to make things happen if he gets the chance to get back here.

    IMO, Andre Miller is on the back end of his career. He might not be injury prone, but I don't see him playing in the league that much longer, due to his age. Roughly, 2 to 3 seasons, with a 4th possible. He's still a good perimeter shooter though, and decent on defense. Miller is also a good clutch player, whereas JB wasn't consistent, even though he was still in the development phase.

    I know it's been said multiple times already, but, Roy already does it better at Guard and will most likely remain in the league for quite some time... But that doesn't mean we can't still get JB back in the future... Let another team develop him for us, and take the development work off our hands, then swipe (Bayless) back in the future with a worthwhile trade.
    I am a fan of Greg Oden getting healthy and shutting up his critics. Period.
  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
    Tobyus Sanchezo
    Posts: 1669

    Posted 10/28/2010 4:03 AM

    Bayless brought a man's brand of basketball to the Blazers. Hopefully some of that killer instinct was absorbed into the rest of the team.
    I am a fan of multiple All-Stars on the Blazers roster this season!
  1. kenny c.
    kenny c.
    Posts: 418

    Posted 10/29/2010 9:30 AM

    He's gone, it's 2 games into the season lets move on.
    I am a fan of Winning
  1. TayC
    TayC
    Posts: 1804

    Posted 10/29/2010 2:43 PM

    this is worse than "The Decision"
    I am a fan of The Blazers ♂, the £-Train, and of course, The ¤ King. ™
  1. Crim
    Crim
    Posts: 398

    Posted 10/29/2010 5:48 PM

    First of all I just want to say everyones doing a better job at ignoring Pin Cushion, grats everyone, he's going to pass 500 posts just talking to himself, and nobody's really taking the  bait to allow him to stir the pot.  If your going to respond to him, talk about him, not too him, and please ignore anything he says directly because he's just trying to play Devil's Advocate.


    More importantly, Bayless's trade had to happen when it happened, because  young talent has its most worth before a season starts and before rotations are hammered out. It's a trade to set up another trade, and if all else fails we get a decent pick in some future draft.

    Miller and Bayless brought somewhat the same thing to the table concerning what we need from them, both are good at getting to the cup and drawing contact, both have imperfect jumpshots, but Millers are more timely (either wide open and gotta keep Defense honest, or the shot clock is running low), Miller's court vision far exceeds that of Bayless right now, but I believe Bayless is getting better at that so he's not ahead of bayless by much imo.

    Bayless is a little more explosive, but that lead to charges and bad decisions (i hate when people leave their feet to pass), and we've learned from Roy it's not how fast you get to the hoop, it's all about that first step, and even at Miller's age, his isn't that bad. Bayless is finally going to get the minutes he needs to develop into a strong player, I see him being a Jason Terry off the bench for NOR
    I am a fan of Not Feeding the Trolls.
  1. TayC
    TayC
    Posts: 1804

    Posted 10/29/2010 7:30 PM

    Wow. You should totally change your name to @$$.
    I am actually not trying to stir any pot, ill smoke some, but i wont stir nothin.
    Not looking to get a rouse out of any of you, i have yet to find any one worth it.
    I just give my opinion, i dont come on here thinking that this team is GOING to WIN, i dont come on here and think they are UNDERRATED. I dont have Bias opinions towards every team that completely beats and batters this team to heck.
    I  stick to my word.
    I dont say contradicting things, in multiple posts.
    I dont whine about every single unfortunate event that happens to this team.
    I dont blame player's for coaching mistakes, and i dont blame trainers for player mistakes.
    I dont believe in the World v Blazers conspiracy.
    And i dont insult people because i dont know how to speak to them. :(
    I actually play basketball, so i know alot more than you guys like to think i do. Its easy to criticize these guys when your sitting at your computer, drinking your Surge, eating Frito's. But i play this game everyday, i play multiple positions, i take what i see on TV, and try it on the court, post moves, dunks, and thanks to JERRYD double clutch layups are also one of my new weapons.
    I may get a little upset over people's ignorance, and sure i might not be able to let it go at times, but at least i know what im talking about. ;D


    You talk about, if all else fails, we get a draft pick. Well the likelihood of failure and Blazers  being in the same sentence, when it comes to Players, ha, well i guess i dont have to tell you about that, Cough*Oden*.
    And i still dont understand the decisions with constantly acquiring kids out of middle school?
    I mean as fans most of you should realize, the Blazers dont have good luck with draft picks...
    Cough*Oden* ... damn cold.... and apparently Bayless didnt make the grade either.
     i mean they let most of the good ones go, outlaw, webster.... Tryus Thomas is getting better, but the trade  for aldridge was magnificent.
    I believe, also that bayless is a coming of age player, and in due time this fool Cho is going to regret the trade. I would disagree with you on the jumper, bayless can hit his shots, heck he could blow your mind if these coaches worked him out more. But i dont see how you can think that Bayless was a good player, and at the same time think this trade was a good idea, regardless if it sets up for another trade.
    Trade Mills for a player that doesnt exist, i mean not someone who knows your offense, and is building chemistry with the team.
    Miller's step, doesnt have a YARD on bayless'. I mean you say he is more explosive and in time will become a better player, but you dont think that the charges and bad decisions would go away when he evolved into that better player?


    As for hating people who jump and pass, i suggest you steer clear of watching LeBron and or Wall. ha:D
    I am a fan of The Blazers ♂, the £-Train, and of course, The ¤ King. ™
  1. I''m OUT!
    I''m OUT!
    Posts: 1059

    Posted 10/30/2010 2:29 AM

    Hey crim I thought the same thing earlier today, I had to talk about pin cushion but not directly to him in another thread. I think it is hilarious that someone has to repeat himself 50 times daily, to people who aren't buying it, saying he knows a lot about basketball because he plays it just to prove himself to everyone. Maybe that should tell him something if he has to keep saying that same thing. Then he gives us the perfect example as to why he knows squat about basketball as he tells us he couldn't come up with double clutch layups on his own, he had to see Bayless do it first. We all know he knows the rules of basketball, but he doesn't understand strategy, chemistry, and as we just learned, he also lacks creativity. He also thinks it is bad to make a trade to set up another trade if our guy was quick or fast. ha ha
    I play basketball too, I love playing and watching it, to me it is the best sport. I used to play it everyday, for about 8-10 hours a day. Hell I'm 5'9" and I could even dunk. That doesn't mean crap. I bet 90% of the people in here "actually play or have played basketball". Who cares?

    And we all know he doesn't stick to his word,
    he often contradicts himself, sometimes even in the same post,
    he whines about the Blazer organization drafting rookies instead of trading for vets, or about Oden's situation or not getting AI and
    he believes in an even crazier conspiracy that we are trading for draft picks because someone in our organization actually works for another team,
    he constantly insults people, including, me, Cho, Oden and others on this board.
    He actually even contradicted himeself in that post by saying he doesn't insult people and then he proceeds to call Cho a fool. What's even more funny is he contradicted himself more than once by also saying he doesn't contradict himself and then proceeding to contradict himself.

    Also I have a little different take on the Bayless trade. I think Bayless is going to be a good player, but trading him means that we admit we drafted the wrong guy for our system and we will give it another shot because clearly he did not like being in this situation here, even when we drafted him he had an angry look on his face like he was slighted, and Nate was not going to use him as a tenured player anytime soon. I think it was a good decision, and I think other players who don't produce may start to feel uncomfortable and it will either motivate them or we may trade them as well. I think it was good for those reasons.
    I am a fan of comcast and the blazers making deals that keep screwing us over!! woot!
  1. Napoleon7
    Napoleon7
    Posts: 118

    Posted 10/30/2010 12:28 PM

    Good trade for Bayless.  Hope we can combine the pick with other assets to further upgrade our team.
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