Should Camby start over Oden?
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 07/11/2010 7:38 PM

    all i know is camby played very very good last year as soon as we acquired him he took flight right away and was maybe the most consistent player on this team. he played big when roy was hurt as well.... averaging 10 rebounds 4 blocks or so...  he seemed to be playing pretty good with aldrige if u ask me. i think what we have here is 2 capable starters at the C.Which is good because that causes competition which is always a good thing,  But to me the difference is Camby is much more durable and he has proven that throughout his career... and i do believe that if we had to make a move Oden would prolly be involved if a trade took place. He just hasn't not shown any kind of consistency at all. and even in college he showed that he gets hurt easily, he has never learned how to take care of his body and its prolly more due to technique than anything, who knows. & i know i shouldn't be saying this because we are stuck with what we have but imagine kevin durant (who we shoulda drafted) playing along side brandon roy? oh man... but it is what it is... i guess we shall see if oden ever meets his potential or not. but i know he will demand some dollars when his contract is up... and do u pay for a player who doesn't exactly pan out? i don't unless its on a friendly discount...  well that is if he doesn't get traded by then 0_o
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    Posted 07/11/2010 11:09 PM

    Posted By Kassandra on 07/11/2010 6:52 PM

    for the record, i was not trying to egg you on. on MB's blog, i don't pile on or instigate. i've been in the inner circle of that blog for a very short time, so i see no need to do that. sorries if that's how it came off.

    i think when you get two players close enough in talent to cause a debate, that the way they play with the starting unit should be of primary importance. i see that as an obvious determining factor. at the beginning of last season Greg and LaMarcus played off of each other very well, and then Greg went down. i think in a debate as close as this, Greg's play alongside with LaMarcus is what puts him over the top.

    i don't think we have a bunch of secret weapons, or two starting units. i do think we have some bench players who could start, especially at center (i.e. Greg, Marcus and even Joel). we also have a few players who afre just a season or two away from being starters, though if they do it would likely be on other teams.

    anyway, i hope that clears things up.

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    OK Thanks for clearing that up. I don't read mb's blog anymore so I don't know. I just think Camby is not even close to Greg on offense, and Oden needs to start, regardless of his fit with Lamarcus because Oden has such huge potential and i think Lamarcus can play with either.  I love Camby, don't get me wrong, but I feel like it will hinder the progress of our team (again) if we don't start Oden. Defense-wise Camby is definitely the vet but I think Oden can catch up to Camby real quick in that area.

    I guess it all boils down to me being frustrated with Nate for the last 3 years now. Players losing confidence because of his sporadic decisions, being outcoached in the playoffs and I can't stand when 40% of the time after a timeout our players come back and look like they have no clue what play they are running or how much time is on the SC and we get a SC violation or a forced shot with 1 sec left. Especially in the playoffs! I could go on and on, but I just feel if Nate is a great guy and was a good coach to lead us out of the jail blazer era but as far as taking us far into the playoffs, I think he is not our man. So having this discussion about Oden or Camby makes me cringe when I think about Nate pondering the situation and I feel like he's STILL not done tinkering around with the team.

    But at least we agree on Oden starting!
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  1. Twysted
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    Posted 07/12/2010 2:40 PM

    Camby, without a doubt.

    IMO, Oden may have had a spot had he ever demonstrated that he deserved it.  He has yet to prove that he is an NBA starter in terms of skills.  Camby, on the other hand, has been proving his skills for years.  Even at his age, Camby is simply a better player at this point.  I think even Joel is a better choice right now than Oden.

    And, hasn't Camby actually played more minutes as a Blazer than Oden so far (could be just perception, I am really not sure)?

    Personally, I think Oden is done, his career, at least as a starter, is over.  He will never be more than a bench player.  He has lost too much time.  All the time he should have been developing his NBA game has been spent on the bench/injured.

    And, I love Greg, I don't think it is his fault, just bad luck.  He may have been great, but we'll never know...
  1. EthanMoney
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    Posted 07/12/2010 3:51 PM

    Posted By Twysted on 07/12/2010 2:40 PM
    Camby, without a doubt.

    IMO, Oden may have had a spot had he ever demonstrated that he deserved it.  He has yet to prove that he is an NBA starter in terms of skills.  Camby, on the other hand, has been proving his skills for years.  Even at his age, Camby is simply a better player at this point.  I think even Joel is a better choice right now than Oden.

    And, hasn't Camby actually played more minutes as a Blazer than Oden so far (could be just perception, I am really not sure)?

    Personally, I think Oden is done, his career, at least as a starter, is over.  He will never be more than a bench player.  He has lost too much time.  All the time he should have been developing his NBA game has been spent on the bench/injured.

    And, I love Greg, I don't think it is his fault, just bad luck.  He may have been great, but we'll never know...

    Just curious but have you ever seen Oden play? There is a reason everyone refers to him as a beast and a potential SUPER star. It is because he does have the skill. Saying he lacks the skill to compete in the NBA is like saying Brandon Roy couldn't keep up. He is an amazing player and has the skill needed. Just because he isn't playing in a game doesn't mean he isn't practicing or learning. Also Joel is just as injured as Oden and will be more prone to injury at this point since his reinjury (strange as it sounds). Furthermore Camby has not played more minutes. Camby has 700 minutes with Portland and Oden has 1800. thats 2.5x the amount. Alsooooo Greg Oden is 22 years old. Most players do not Peak until their mid to late 20's so he hasn't lost any time. Most kids are still in college at this point.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 07/12/2010 3:52 PM

    See the avatar? That's your answer! Camby should start right away just until Greg gets into the flow, but once the big fella is in his groove, its lights out, game over! Camby then becomes the backup to both G.O. and LMA.
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    Posted 08/03/2010 12:21 AM

    Funny Mike Rice said just about the same thing I did in here today on courtside. I knew I liked Rice for a reason.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 08/03/2010 12:39 PM

    With Camby being 36, I worry about him breaking down later on in the season if he's starting a lot of the time to open the year. I still say, throw GO out there and see how it works and if he gets into foul trouble, so be it, that is what we have Camby for.  I want Marcus to be as well rested as possible for the playoff push.
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/03/2010 3:48 PM

    camby will start. and he will be fine. he is 1 of the best conditioned athletes in the bizz. he is a reliable player. while oden is far from that... oden still doesn't even know how to run in his legs yet... some people grow to fast and can't adjust to their bodies... oden seems like 1 of those people. hopefully he'll get some training that'll fix those problems in the future. 
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 08/03/2010 6:57 PM

    Posted By DHawes22 on 08/03/2010 12:39 PM
    With Camby being 36, I worry about him breaking down later on in the season if he's starting a lot of the time to open the year. I still say, throw GO out there and see how it works and if he gets into foul trouble, so be it, that is what we have Camby for.  I want Marcus to be as well rested as possible for the playoff push.
    Well said...and I couldn't agree more.  I would like to add that at least  s o m e  of the foul trouble that GO has experienced in the past has been due to the inability of the perimeter defense to both stay in front of the ball and deny passing lanes...in short, be a disruption to the opposition and their sets.  Thinking back to the first part of last season, remember...Joel was also having problems with accumulating fouls.  This is why I like the signing of Armon and why I think an upgrade at the starting PG position is necessary.  That said, Dre was nothing short of a savior last season for his team, with all of the injuries. 

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  1. jeff w
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    Posted 08/03/2010 7:04 PM

    All this talk about "if" oden stays healthy, OR "when" oden was healthy. HE'S A DUD!!! Even when he did play it was awkward at best. Its time to let this one go. cut our losses, and move on. camby is a proven ball player. Oden has done nothing but waste portlands time!
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    Posted 08/03/2010 7:53 PM

    jeff w No way we cut our losses with Oden yet, his potential is extremely high and he has the ability to become a seriously dominant player. If he is healthy START ODEN! Then if he does get seriously hurt again I'll agree to cut our losses, but to say that now is still ridiculous. He is still young.
    BDawg it seemed a lot of centers had a lot of foul trouble last year. And i agree that Oden had a few awkward fouls, but he did have a bunch of non existent fouls called on him too, it seemed about 1 or 2 every game. Thats enough to take a big man out of the game for a majority of minutes.
    Blazers4Life247 Camby gets hurt a lot so I have no idea where you get that he is reliable. He was already hurt here at least twice last year.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 08/03/2010 8:42 PM

    The way i see it is if you start Camby, there is nothing to lose. You can bring Oden in off the bench so you do not risk anything.
    If you start Oden, and he gets hurt, and with his luck you know he will, you have lost him for yet another season, more and more people will lose hope in the type of player he can be.

    Start Camby for the season.
    Let Oden work for his starting pos in the Playoffs...
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 08/03/2010 8:43 PM

    look at what happen to Blake Griffin.
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  1. jeff w
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    Posted 08/03/2010 10:01 PM

    Toml, "potential", "to become", "if" ? It's been 3 years now,How many more chances does he get? One more? I love our team, and that means I love the blazers more than oden. I wished him well with everybody, but hes no good! You can wish with oden, OR win with camby. He cant hold on to the ball ( thats not to hard,by the way),cant post up aganst mid level players (bynum,al jefferson,etc.), or shoot from like anywhere,and I'm putting all this nicely. I give oden 15 to 25 games before he is hurt again. Does any one want to bet me?
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    Posted 08/03/2010 10:04 PM

    I say trade oden and rudy, for chris andersen. Now thats a tough player.
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    Posted 08/03/2010 10:44 PM

    Posted By TayC on 08/03/2010 8:42 PM
    The way i see it is if you start Camby, there is nothing to lose. You can bring Oden in off the bench so you do not risk anything.
    If you start Oden, and he gets hurt, and with his luck you know he will, you have lost him for yet another season, more and more people will lose hope in the type of player he can be.

    Start Camby for the season.
    Let Oden work for his starting pos in the Playoffs...
    Well maybe we should just keep Oden in a bottle and use him only in emergencies so he doesn't ever get hurt? Start Oden at the beginning of the season, he is potentially the better center. Camby is a great player but he is getting old. And making Greg work for the starting role in the playoffs?!?!?! That's when you want your team chemistry to peak so why not START that way in the regular season?? I also don't understand your Blake Griffin comment. What should they have done? Put Blake in a bottle and only use him in emergencies? That makes no sense.
    Posted By jeff w on 08/03/2010 10:04 PM 
    I say trade oden and rudy, for chris andersen. Now thats a tough player.

    I thank God you are not the Blazers staff. That would be the worst deal ever. You guys talk like Camby is a young All Star center... he's not! He is still good enough and smart enough to be a good team defender, but not against the premier bigs in the league. Oden is way better than Camby on offense and can easily be as good on defense. My point is don't go easy on Oden to save him from injury. If he is gonna get hurt again then I'd rather it happen sooner than later. I hope he doesn't get hurt because with a healthy Oden and Brandon and Lamarcus, we have a really good chance at going to the finals in the next few years. With Camby we'd have only 2 years to do it... maybe.

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  1. TayC
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    Posted 08/04/2010 7:12 PM

    No dude,its not like a riddle or something, what i was saying if you were the coach, would you risk losing your center for the season again and possibly tanking his career. This is a guy who what, was drafted 2007, and has only played like what 60 games in his career. Blake griffin, almost the same story, team thought he was gonna do great, day before the season starts he gets injured and is out for the season, so now LIKE ODEN, will have a chance at rookie of the year next year( john wall though,damn). 

    So Im not saying never use oden, actually i never said that, i just don't get it, if Camby starts, and you rotate oden in a bit more each time.
    1. You reduce the chance of injury
    2. Oden might get to play more than half of the season.
    3. By the time playoffs comes around, and Oden who has slowly but surly evolved into the dominant center his team knows he can be their overall chemisty should sky rocket simply on the fact they have all of their Centers for playoffs.

    And another thing, i dont see how anyone could say Oden is better than Camby on ANYTHING! The dude has barely played in the league, Camby is a 14 year Vet this year,a tank on D, not to mention 07 defensive player of the year, if Oden was better you'd think he would a won it. "Oh wait, thats right, he got injured before he could even play!"
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  1. kenny c.
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    Posted 08/05/2010 12:54 PM

    We have a lack of trust in Oden due to the strange beginning  to his nba career.
    The best way to gain trust is to watch a person closely.
    I want to see Oden play as much as he can.
    I'm tired of the whole narrative of "if Oden."
    I want to see, so I can trust that he is up to the 'if healthy, championship hype'.
    I think Tayc has some good points about Oden and playing into the dominant role we have been talking about for three years. This is not the worst idea and it is pretty rational from a coaching standpoint. Camby is a solid defender and a pretty good 14 yr player. I think Nate likes this. But on the other hand nate MIGHT be sitting on a gold mine in Oden and if you want the gold it would be wise to start drilling as soon as you can. It seems we will never win a championship without a dominant Big, so why not get to know if Oden is someone we can trust to help bring us one as soon as possible. I say start Oden.
    P.S. Even when and if we start Oden camby will still play more minutes because Oden will still probably pick up stupid fouls. What is more interesting than this question is  the question of the symbolism of being a starter.
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    Posted 08/06/2010 10:28 PM

    Posted By TayC on 08/04/2010 7:12 PM
    No dude,its not like a riddle or something, what i was saying if you were the coach, would you risk losing your center for the season again and possibly tanking his career. This is a guy who what, was drafted 2007, and has only played like what 60 games in his career. Blake griffin, almost the same story, team thought he was gonna do great, day before the season starts he gets injured and is out for the season, so now LIKE ODEN, will have a chance at rookie of the year next year( john wall though,damn). 

    So Im not saying never use oden, actually i never said that, i just don't get it, if Camby starts, and you rotate oden in a bit more each time.
    1. You reduce the chance of injury
    2. Oden might get to play more than half of the season.
    3. By the time playoffs comes around, and Oden who has slowly but surly evolved into the dominant center his team knows he can be their overall chemisty should sky rocket simply on the fact they have all of their Centers for playoffs.

    And another thing, i dont see how anyone could say Oden is better than Camby on ANYTHING! The dude has barely played in the league, Camby is a 14 year Vet this year,a tank on D, not to mention 07 defensive player of the year, if Oden was better you'd think he would a won it. "Oh wait, thats right, he got injured before he could even play!"
    It only takes one second to get hurt, no matter how many minutes you play.
    I'm saying the sooner we find out if he is gonna get hurt again the better. The sooner we find out if he is extra fragile the better, then we can move on. If he is still recovering from the injury then bring him off the bench, but if he is healthy and ready to go, throw him out there! And Oden definitely has way more offensive skills than Camby! Just because he has been hurt does not change that fact. Anyway, I love what Camby brings, I am just so excited (and have been since 2007) to see what Oden can do, but if he is injury prone then I hope to move on sooner than later.
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  1. that1guy
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    Posted 08/06/2010 10:33 PM

    I think Camby should start, but I think Oden should get a little bit more minutes , allowing Camby to slide to the 4 when Aldridge needs to be relieved. this is assuming Przybilla re-signs, giving both of them some rest.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 08/07/2010 12:02 PM

    I think you have to give Greg the opportunity to EARN the starting spot in camp and pre-season.  Assuming he is able to do this, Camby will initially play more.  Ideally though, as the season progresses and Oden becomes more comfortable and less foul prone, you begin reducing Camby's minutes and increasing Greg's.  That will lend itself to both team chemistry and a healthy Marcus going in to the post season
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 08/07/2010 12:08 PM

    On a side note...How fortunate are we to even be in a position to be having a conversation like this?!  Two starting centers on the roster?  Yeah, that's rough (possibly 3 if you count the Vanilla Gorilla)
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    Posted 08/07/2010 1:41 PM

    Durant is the type of guy who takes around 30 shots a games. You only get about 90 possessions a game and minus about 12 turnovers that gives the rest of the team only about 48 possesions a game Brandon takes about 15 shots a game. That would leave our whole team with only about 33 shots a game!
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    Posted 08/07/2010 2:42 PM

    Posted By HoorawRPwnage on 08/07/2010 1:41 PM
    Durant is the type of guy who takes around 30 shots a games. You only get about 90 possessions a game and minus about 12 turnovers that gives the rest of the team only about 48 possesions a game Brandon takes about 15 shots a game. That would leave our whole team with only about 33 shots a game!
    NICE!  I share in the frustration DHawes expressed earlier in this post.  Those who argue Durant over Oden in the '07 draft are the same that contend Jordan was the better choice over Bowie.  Amazing how many experts surface after fate has run it's course.  We already had Clyde and needed a big.  We already had Roy and needed a big.  Rediculous arguments.  I guess GM's should bring Taro cards with them on draft day

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  1. TayC
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    Posted 08/07/2010 8:17 PM

    Posted By TomL on 08/06/2010 10:28 PM
    Posted By TayC on 08/04/2010 7:12 PM
    No dude,its not like a riddle or something, what i was saying if you were the coach, would you risk losing your center for the season again and possibly tanking his career. This is a guy who what, was drafted 2007, and has only played like what 60 games in his career. Blake griffin, almost the same story, team thought he was gonna do great, day before the season starts he gets injured and is out for the season, so now LIKE ODEN, will have a chance at rookie of the year next year( john wall though,damn). 

    So Im not saying never use oden, actually i never said that, i just don't get it, if Camby starts, and you rotate oden in a bit more each time.
    1. You reduce the chance of injury
    2. Oden might get to play more than half of the season.
    3. By the time playoffs comes around, and Oden who has slowly but surly evolved into the dominant center his team knows he can be their overall chemisty should sky rocket simply on the fact they have all of their Centers for playoffs.

    And another thing, i dont see how anyone could say Oden is better than Camby on ANYTHING! The dude has barely played in the league, Camby is a 14 year Vet this year,a tank on D, not to mention 07 defensive player of the year, if Oden was better you'd think he would a won it. "Oh wait, thats right, he got injured before he could even play!"
    It only takes one second to get hurt, no matter how many minutes you play.
    I'm saying the sooner we find out if he is gonna get hurt again the better. The sooner we find out if he is extra fragile the better, then we can move on. If he is still recovering from the injury then bring him off the bench, but if he is healthy and ready to go, throw him out there! And Oden definitely has way more offensive skills than Camby! Just because he has been hurt does not change that fact. Anyway, I love what Camby brings, I am just so excited (and have been since 2007) to see what Oden can do, but if he is injury prone then I hope to move on soon.
    Word. i hear you, i bet you Oden feels the same way, he wants to see what HE can really do, he is a beast.
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    Posted 08/07/2010 8:28 PM

    but just imagine..... oh man oh man.
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  1. jeni
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    Posted 08/13/2010 10:04 AM

    Camby.  Stop babying Oden.  He must earn his spot.  Camby definitely earned this one.
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    Posted 08/20/2010 4:04 PM

    i have to disagree with the assessment of those claiming Greg has done nothing in his career this far. yes, it has gotten off to a slow start, but he has shown a lot of promise and provided some results in the 82 regular season games he has played.

    last season prior to going down to injury he was averaging 24 minutes, 11.1 points and 8.5 rebounds per game. that puts him at 22.2 points and 17 rebounds per 48 minutes. here's what i see as the telling sign: if Greg were to average 36 minutes a game, his numbers would be at 16.6 points and 12.8 rebounds. those are starting center numbers for just about every team out there -- especially when he is not one of the top two options on his team.

    obviously, we probably want to keep him at his 24 minutes or so per game. despite that, his time on the floor is efficient and shows the signs of the center we drafted.

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  1. TayC
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    Posted 08/20/2010 6:22 PM

    Posted By Kassandra on 08/20/2010 4:04 PM
    i have to disagree with the assessment of those claiming Greg has done nothing in his career this far. yes, it has gotten off to a slow start, but he has shown a lot of promise and provided some results in the 82 regular season games he has played.

    last season prior to going down to injury he was averaging 24 minutes, 11.1 points and 8.5 rebounds per game. that puts him at 22.2 points and 17 rebounds per 48 minutes. here's what i see as the telling sign: if Greg were to average 36 minutes a game, his numbers would be at 16.6 points and 12.8 rebounds. those are starting center numbers for just about every team out there -- especially when he is not one of the top two options on his team.

    obviously, we probably want to keep him at his 24 minutes or so per game. despite that, his time on the floor is efficient and shows the signs of the center we drafted.

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    hahaha, you cant just predict stats to make you feel better. haha.
    You dont know that stuff, if he averaged 36 mins a game, he would be alot more tired, what if he averaged 11pts, 8.5 rbds with his 36 mins. Youll never know untill he gets there, and to come out and say he "showed alot of promise" The DUDE GOT INJURED and COULDNT PLAY FOR THE SEASON...... TWICE!!!!
    Most people would call that enough promise.
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    Posted 08/21/2010 11:30 PM

    Jordan bird is right
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  1. Lenwen76
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    Posted 08/22/2010 9:56 AM

    I think Nate should not just make a starting rotation and keep it as simple as that ..

    Against teams such as the Bucks, Atlanta, and other's with no inside presense why not start Oden ?

    Against teams such as the Lakers, Heat, Orlando .. why not Start Camby ?

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  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 08/23/2010 7:38 AM

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    Posted 08/20/2010 6:22 PM

    Posted By Kassandra on 08/20/2010 4:04 PM
    i have to disagree with the assessment of those claiming Greg has done nothing in his career this far. yes, it has gotten off to a slow start, but he has shown a lot of promise and provided some results in the 82 regular season games he has played.

    last season prior to going down to injury he was averaging 24 minutes, 11.1 points and 8.5 rebounds per game. that puts him at 22.2 points and 17 rebounds per 48 minutes. here's what i see as the telling sign: if Greg were to average 36 minutes a game, his numbers would be at 16.6 points and 12.8 rebounds. those are starting center numbers for just about every team out there -- especially when he is not one of the top two options on his team.

    obviously, we probably want to keep him at his 24 minutes or so per game. despite that, his time on the floor is efficient and shows the signs of the center we drafted.

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    hahaha, you cant just predict stats to make you feel better. haha.
    You dont know that stuff, if he averaged 36 mins a game, he would be alot more tired, what if he averaged 11pts, 8.5 rbds with his 36 mins. Youll never know untill he gets there, and to come out and say he "showed alot of promise" The DUDE GOT INJURED and COULDNT PLAY FOR THE SEASON...... TWICE!!!!
    Most people would call that enough promise.

    you know Tay, to be honest, i don't know what he'd do in 36 minutes any more than you do. i understand you want to know it all and you have an insatiable need to be correct but, again, that fact is that you don't know either.

    what i'll tell you is that the plan is not to play Greg 36 minutes per game this year. from all i've heard and read, he'll probably play 24-26 or so, and be spelled by Marcus and Joel (barring injury).

    the per X/minutes comparison is used by general managers, scouts and other analysts (sans part-time fans) as one factor to determine a player's value. i shouldn't have to explain that to you. when someone makes a comparison of  per 36 minutes or per 48 minutes, they're not necesarily advocating that player average that many minutes, certainly not 36 for Greg, and not 48 for any other player in the league.

    the other thing you cannot do is presume to speak for "most people." i've talked to a lot of people on a lot of forums and informally speaking, most feel as if Greg still has the promise and potential. they do, however, feel that one more major injury this year and those begin to fade. again, however, "most" of the people to whom i've talked to still consider that promise to exist (i'm basing that on what i've read/heard rather than just throwing the phrase "most people" out there).

    oh and seriously, you have to remind everyone in nearly every comment you make that he's been injured twice? yeah thanks, i think "most people" got that the first time. lol

    ~ Kassandra

    I am a fan of my team fighting to win each and every game.
  1. I''m OUT!
    I''m OUT!
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    Posted 08/23/2010 1:36 PM

    Posted By Kassandra on 08/23/2010 7:38 AM 
    you know Tay, to be honest, i don't know what he'd do in 36 minutes any more than you do. i understand you want to know it all and you have an insatiable need to be correct but, again, that fact is that you don't know either.
    I think you will find there is a LOT more about basketball that he does not know.

    I am a fan of comcast and the blazers making deals that keep screwing us over!! woot!
  1. Get Down Jones
    Get Down Jones
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    Posted 08/25/2010 11:28 AM

    on a team like the blazers "starting" position should not have the importance placed on it as it does. there is a lot to be said to have a strong bench squad, we had a lot of wins last year because our bench was tough. our bench should be full of starters too. I always look to the bench performace as a good indicator of win/loss. having said that I hope that Oden has a good seat to watch and learn from Marcus. Marcus should start to ease in Oden and to continue to develope Greg. Just picture what a monster Greg will be if he picks up some of Camby's play style. with his size and and the proper menoring Greg will dominate.

    I'm a huge fan of Greg Oden, probably my favorite Blazer, but the guy needs to acclimate smoothly into the role with less pressure. it was the pressure that pushed him too hard and got him his injury. I beleive he takes his role serious and plays as hard as he needs to to make the difference. I hope he and roy can get the support they need to play with a more normal weight on thier shoulders. thats the key to staying injury free. 
    I am a fan of watching confetti fall in the rose garden!! go blazers make em PAY!!
  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/26/2010 8:29 PM

    i can't wait to see both camby and oden on the floor together at the same time when coach decides to throw a different look out there maybe even camby(pf) oden(c) and aldridge(sf) batum(sg) roy(pg)all on the floor at once... rebounds galore ;]
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