trade bayless blake and a pick for dharris
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  1. wvastarshooter
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    Posted 01/21/2010 12:36 AM

    the lakers are trying get him now
  1. wvastarshooter
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    Posted 01/21/2010 12:45 AM

    no matter what we do we should trade for harris hes like 26 he would match up against biillups abrooks parker and other pg  deep in the playoffs they say pg is our weakess position trade for harris let miller start until harris gets the hang of it its a great move then we just can play out the rest of season with what we got. just think a millers only here 2 years blake  bout  to be a free agent and bayless gets alot points on the line which is great but lock up harris

  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 01/22/2010 4:02 AM

    The Nets are 3-37. That guy is playin' stinky. Then you're talkin' about trading half our team for him? You might wanna lay off the Red Bulls a lil' bit.
    I am a fan of multiple All-Stars on the Blazers roster this season!
  1. wvastarshooter
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    Posted 01/22/2010 1:37 PM

    lay off the red bull lets talk real here   steve blake is a free agent miller is old and bayless needs more time he get most buckets off free throws but i still love em and blake and the rest of the gang gets dogged by other pg like  abrooks (rockets)dwilliams(utah)tparker(spurs)jkidd(dallas)billups(denver)these are all western pgs never harris would be a big step up  and you wouldnt be trading core blazers amiller is doin good now but he isnt in future plans   just think  about it   bayless  blake  and a pick for harris we can keep miller a extra year to  back him up and groom patty millls  and devin harris defends    kevin pritchard look at this man   you gotta make the deal ask brandon roy would he like it
  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 01/22/2010 9:24 PM

    Andre Miller just nearly willed the most make-shift Blazer roster ever to a win in Boston with 28,8,&8 and Bayless was on his way to a double double..point guard is not a position of need that we trade for. I'd look at a veteran small forward to mentor Batum or a decent center/pf.
    Again, the Nets roster on paper is not 3-38 bad..Lopez,Lee,Yi, and Harris. If Harris was any kind of a leader, he would get that team up to win a game here or there. Also, when does pride come into the picture..no thanks..plus I've always thought he was severely overrated anyways.
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  1. BlazerFan4Ever5
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    Posted 01/23/2010 8:42 PM

    That is the stupidest thing I've ever heard. If you think we need to get rid of Bayless and Blake, you need to rethink it or something. That's crazy!!!! We're great with them...
    I am a fan of how great these blazers did in the 2010 playoffs! i know we lost, but it was still fun to watch. we'll go farther next year!!
  1. Posted 01/24/2010 2:34 PM

    It seems like the guys have finally gotten some sort of chemistry going and they have done a pretty decent job of pulling together wins lately.  Why mess with that?
    I am a fan of fresh beginnings....
  1. wvastarshooter
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    Posted 01/24/2010 10:39 PM

    man listen cuz it seems like people who are responding making it seem like im tryin down the team i love the team and i think we can win how we are now healthy with greg and the rest yea we are contenders but what i was basically saying is bayless is great young talent and blakes ok but just think dharris why do you thi nk the lakers was trying get him cause he does alot and he defends. im thinkin the future not this year so think the future and then comment. if we trade bayless blake and a pick for harris we get a young proven player we keep miller for this year and next and w e let mills groom un der both miller and harris it would be great did yall see last year playoffs how abrooks dogged us we couldnt do nothing with him thats why harris would be that guy to defend all the west pg
  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 01/25/2010 4:51 PM

    I am all for change...if it benefits the team. Currently, Miller is > Harris and I think Bayless will be in a couple of years, so I don't think the trade is all that great on our end.

    I mean Harris is
    averaging 15 6 and 3 on less than 40% shooting
    ...Miller is already putting up far superior numbers in the month of January while leading his team to victory and I guarantee that Bayless could put up what Harris is doing right now if he were given 40 minutes a night and only had to defer to Brook Lopez.

    Also, it wouldn't work having Harris and Dre on the same team. Dre is not going back to the bench and KP just said in the Oregonian that he is not looking to deal Andre.
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  1. Dman
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    Posted 01/25/2010 9:38 PM

    Trade Miller for a box of popcorn, that's all he's worth.
    I am a fan of Since 1969 when the NBA awarded Portland the franchise.
  1. BLAZERMANIAC26
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    Posted 01/25/2010 9:41 PM

    Why would you want to take a pg that has 3 wins halfway through the season? he might be good but he obviously doesnt know how to win. START BAYLESS!!!
    I am a fan of MARCUS CAMBY BABY!!
  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 01/26/2010 12:00 AM

    Yes, one bad game...so let's trade Miller..ugh seriously people?!
    Agreed on the Harris front..you can't lead your team to more than 3 wins halfway through the year...no thx

    I am a fan of Watching Elliot Williams Take Flight!
  1. mario250775
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    Posted 01/28/2010 12:28 PM

    I think that bayless na blake should stay, when B Roy come back everything will be better, We need rather some big guy like Gortat or no when blazers play agresive defense and fast atacks and maybe with all players healthy we can play very good without Oden .
    I am a fan of Portland Trail Blazers, RIP CITY !!!
  1. RedRudy5
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    Posted 01/28/2010 1:26 PM

    I don't think we will be able to pull off a trade that would have enough benifit this year to be worth what we would have to give up for the future- I say stay with the guys we have and look forward to a healthier future!!
    I am a fan of Turning this season around! Time to show some pride!!
  1. #1 Ptown fan
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    Posted 01/28/2010 5:37 PM

    No way, bayless's upside is way too good to trade away. Plus i would say the PG spot is our strongest as far as durability. Wanna talk trades... we need to go after an andrew bogut type player at center who's good enough for a playoff push but won't necessarily ask for a ton of money or a long term contract. With the possibility oden can come back for the post season he'd be an awesome compliment at the center position
    I am a fan of A healthy blazers team haha
  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 01/31/2010 2:58 PM

    Miller just dropped 52..still want to trade him for a box of popcorn? He an Bayless have the point guard spot on lock for a while. No need to trade for a point guard.
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  1. Dman
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    Posted 01/31/2010 9:01 PM

    You were all pretty quiet after his 3 point to assist night aren't ya. Yeah, 52 point night. Has anyone told you there are 82 nights in a regular season.
    I am a fan of Since 1969 when the NBA awarded Portland the franchise.
  1. mario250775
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    Posted 02/01/2010 12:28 PM

    I am in the middle, I don't think that Miller is superstar and also I don't think he is so bad but I am sure that he is not key player for this young team. Coach should give bayless more minutes every game and Miller and Howard should support young players with experience.
    From the start of the season I have feeling that Nate McMillan have now idea how to play with Miller ? What do You think ?
    I am a fan of Portland Trail Blazers, RIP CITY !!!
  1. mario250775
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    Posted 02/01/2010 12:34 PM

    and something else - Yes, there are 82 matches, so wait for next Miller plays to make good opinion or trade him for some big guy that we need I think, because We have several option for point guard ! 

    I am a fan of Portland Trail Blazers, RIP CITY !!!
  1. RedRudy5
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    Posted 02/02/2010 3:39 PM

    I think miller is adding what KP hoped for when he signed him- some vetern experiance. It takes time for everyone to fit in and has especially been hard with all the injuries. I say stay put -no trades!
    I am a fan of Turning this season around! Time to show some pride!!
  1. Bruise10
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    Posted 02/03/2010 2:58 PM

    Miller is now doing what everyone expected him to do, why Roy is out and he controls the game.  The Blazers are finally running more and pushing the ball even on made baskets.  It's working.  Why?  Miller. McMillon is finally letting the team run more and giving them more control on the court instead of everything coming in the half court.  With this style and a big that can rebound and protect the paint we can get to the playoffs and make some noise.
  1. blazers22
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    Posted 02/03/2010 5:15 PM

    Bayless and Blake are still way young, and have max potential!!!!! Do not get rid of them. Miller is old and is going to give B & B a lot of advice and experience. We have a great young talented team, no trades.  It is tough working through this year with all the injuries, of this year and last. we had so much hope for this year, just need to stay strong. Go Blazers!!!!!!

    I am a fan of the team with the most potential, most character, and the most dangerous on the court!!!!!
  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 02/05/2010 12:20 PM

    Bayless is young and still has potential, but Blake is 29 going on 30 and already peaked last season. With Roy returning soon, we will have an overload of guards. Whatever move we make, we need to deal a guard or two to even out the roster for this year.
    I am a fan of Watching Elliot Williams Take Flight!
  1. machwonder
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    Posted 02/05/2010 1:12 PM

    Trade Oden for a box of popcorn. OK, half a box of popcorn cause thats all you'd get for him.
  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/05/2010 1:51 PM

    Seriously? What is up with the negative attitude by some of you guys?
    First it was Miller for popcorn, then he goes out and carries us to a rare road win in Dallas and has been playing at an All-Star level since the new year.
    Now Oden? He's only 22 and looked like an All-Star this year before going down.  Keep the faith!
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  1. machwonder
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    Posted 02/05/2010 2:36 PM

    Looked like an all star?? Only against bad teams and thats when he wasn't in foul trouble which was half the games he played in. Nows he's hurt again??? Face it, the Oden ship has sailed. He will never be healthy. He was a mistake from day one. When healthy he's still no all star.
  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 02/05/2010 6:42 PM

    Geez mw, the transmission on your minivan goin' out or somethin'??? Oden is a very young man and his bones will heal. If you actually think Oden wasn't a dominate presence in the paint, then obviously you got digital and Comcast wasn't lettin' you watch games earlier this season. Oden was tremendously spectacular at times before his unfortunate injury.
    I am a fan of multiple All-Stars on the Blazers roster this season!
  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/05/2010 7:47 PM

    Thank you Tobyus for setting him straight!
    People forget that guys like Grant Hill and Big Z were out for multiple seasons yet recovered to become All-Stars.
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  1. machwonder
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    Posted 02/05/2010 9:16 PM

    You two must believe in santa claus and the tooth fairy if you really believe Oden is an all star. First, yes, he played well when not hurt, against so, so, teams that had no inside defense, kind of like where the Blazers are now. It's really painful to watch Portland. They play no defense, they stand around like there waiting for Roy to return to the court. Theres no ball movement, they don't spread the floor and use cutters like they should. With such a small young team they should run,run,run. They have that going for them with all the young talent they have. But most of the time they seem content in the half court offense. LA is doing a great job right now, I hope he reaches the level of consistantcy that the Blazers need. They really don't have any consistant players and thats what you need to be a champion. But, they are doing remarkably well when you consider all the injuries this year. But in the end, they'll make the playoffs only to lose in the first round, again.

    As for Oden, he'll never be great. Injuries will haunt him his whole career, like they always have. The tough NBA schedule will see to that. The only chance he has is to play about 20 minutes a game if and when he's ready. Hey, I hope I'm wrong, but I seriously doubt it. If healthy he could be a good center, but great??? NO!!! Joel, when healthy still does the necessary center work needed to outshine Oden. it's really too bad he went down right after Oden. This team would have six or seven more wins if Joel had been playing. What gets me is Mac. When Oden was healthy the offense ran through him. Pass it in to Oden and watch him hoist up another brick. Geez!! That's if he didn't trip over his two feet. Look how he got hurt. His leg just gave out!! No one around him, he just crumpled like an old man without a caine!! Face it diehards, the Oden Ship Has Sailed. HA HA HA, thats a Collin Cowherd quote. I don't usually agree with him, but this time he's dead on.

    Hey, when his basketball career fizzles maybe he'll land a spread shoot for Playgirl.
  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/06/2010 1:06 PM

    Actually, yes Oden was playing at an All-Star level before going down. In the last 10 games before being injured, he was going for 16, 10 and 3 blocks a night. Nate even stated that Greg was the only player playing up to his ceiling at the beginning of the year.
    We all will remember your screen name, so when Oden is doing work next year, don't get on the wagon and also, keep it clean. No need to bring up the pictures incident. It is done and over with.

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  1. S. Diamond
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    Posted 02/06/2010 9:00 PM

    Without attempting to sound rude or come across like a prick, mw... you have a better chance of Kevin Duckworth rising from the grave and slapping the taste out of your mouth than you do of having Oden busting his left knee again, or for that matter, having a bad season even with a bad wheel.

    Even with injuries, Oden's put up as good of an effort (or better) than Przybilla on a consistent basis in a shorter amount of time. Numbers don't lie. And neither did his effort when he was healthy.

    Have you, by any chance, seen any of the highlight reels from Oden's time with Ohio State?
    Would you rather have Oden leave PDX, and leave PDX empty in the middle with no big man, Juwon Howard notwithstanding? Oden is, even with his injury, pretty close to being the league leader in rebounds and blocks on average compared to any other Center.

    Even Steve Kerr, in December 2006, not too long after his debut against Valparaiso, who was (and I think still is) the Phoenix Suns General Manager made an off-hand comment about Oden in which he described him as a "once-in-a-decade player". And Steve Kerr, when he played for the Bulls, was no joke himself... If I remember correctly, Kerr still holds the all time record for 3-point percentage in the NBA at 45%???

    At best, mw, your comments on Oden are laughable and not based on solid evidence. Unless you have something worthwhile to contribute to the boards, in an unbiased manner, I would recommend it to your advantage to keep your foot out of your mouth.

    Any rebuttals? Am I wrong anywhere?
    I am a fan of Greg Oden getting healthy and shutting up his critics. Period.
  1. machwonder
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    Posted 02/07/2010 7:26 PM

    Actually, he wasn't doing it night in and night out. I have Comcast, I watch the games. He was plauged by foul trouble which put him on the bench. I remember one night Mac told Oden before the game if he gets two fouls in the first period he'll sit the bench. If you watch the games I don't have to tell you what happened. He continued to have foul trouble in many games. Sure, he played well at times, but an All Star?? Your idea of an All Star differs from mine. I consider players like Clyde, Magic,Bird, Stockton, Jabar, Duncan All Stars. The word is misused today. Brandon Roy, Portlands best player had to be voted in by the coaches. Where was he in the balloting for the Western Conference? And you say Oden is an All Star?? ha ha ha ha!!!

    That Playgirl shoot is going to be all Oden will have left cause he will never shake the knee injuries that are sure to follow him. Big men just don't get rid of knee problems once they get them.

    Keep your opinions about what I post to yourself. If you don't like what I post, don't read it.

  1. machwonder
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    Posted 02/07/2010 7:57 PM

    Your statements are not based on any fact. Oden will be lucky to stand without falling down, let alone play basketball. Didn't you see him fall like a ton of bricks all by his lonesome? Agree to disagree with me if you want to. I will voice my opinion without jabbing you with senseless and stupid remarks about people from the grave slapping you. That indicates to me what a moron I'm dealing with here. Sorry, couldn't resist.

    Joel's minutes were slashed when he and Oden were healthy. Joel is the better rebounder, shot blocker, sets screens better when he gets a chance to play, like last year when the whole team was better. As for Oden at Ohio State, BFD, college isn't the pros. Joel's numbers would have been excellent if he hadn't got hurt. Course the Blazers must play their number one draft bust, that's the Mac theory at work. WILL PLAY HIM REGUARDLESS BECAUSE WE DRAFTED HIM #1!! Last year the organization preached about Oden the All Star early in the season. What a joke! Tell me, did he make it, ha ha ha!!

    Are you serious, Steve Kerr said what?? BFD!! He's probably thinking he shoved Oden's size 18 shoes in his mouth with that comment.

    Face it, Porland drafted the wrong guy. Durrant is a REAL ALL STAR!
  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 02/08/2010 10:59 AM

    Durant is T-Mac 2.0..great scoring but wake me up when he leads his team to anything. We all knew heading into the draft that KD would win multiple scoring titles, but Oden would be the one winning rings.
    I am a fan of Watching Elliot Williams Take Flight!
  1. machwonder
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    Posted 02/10/2010 2:21 PM

    I agree, to a point, but Bryant couldn't win a championship until Gasol arrived in LA. Did you watch the post game show after the game last night? That pannel of hosts said if they were the Blazer GM they'd trade any member on the Blazer team including Roy to get Durant. And if they knew then what they know now they would have drafted Durant ahead of Oden. They also stated that they knew Oden had been plagued by injuries his whole career as a basketball player, so his getting hurt was really no big surprise. Durant is so young we don't really know how good he'll be. One things for sure, he's an all star this year, and Oden is hurt.

    That Blazer team last night was the worst performance I have ever witnessed by any Blazer team ever. What a complete mess!
  1. machwonder
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    Posted 02/10/2010 10:18 PM

    Well, I guess you Blazer lovers are all giddy about the great performance Blake turned in tonight in the valley of the sun. I wonder, now that he turned in a great all around performance tonight, do you all still want a new point guard? Bayless hasn't had a game like ever. Face it, the best point man Portland has, he just turned in a 20/12 evening. Hell will freeze over before you see Bayless or Miller have a night like that. And look how he got the WHOLE TEAM INVOLVED! Nice job steve!!!
  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 02/11/2010 1:23 AM

    Hey mw, Miller had 20pts 7reb 5ast and 3blks tonight. Blabadee bla-bla-bla Huh? What??
    I am a fan of multiple All-Stars on the Blazers roster this season!
  1. Posted 02/11/2010 4:08 AM

    Last night, Blakey had 20 pts, 12 Assts, 2 Stls, 1 Blk, 2 Rebs, & + 23 while on the floor in 38 minutes with 4/4 FT's, and 5/7 2 pt FG's.  Miller & Blake work well together, and with Juwan & LaMarcus trying to rebound against the NBA's 7 footers, ... the shooting % of Miller, Blake, Batum, Bayless, Dante, Rudy, & Webster, ... will be what's important, until Roy recovers from the Hamstring injury. 

    Against the Thunder, they got only one shot, and no second chance shots, with zero offensive Rebs.  As long as Miller, Blake, Rudy, Jerryd, Dante, BRoy, LA, Juwan, & Martell can keep moving the ball to the open shot, setting picks up top, penetrating into the paint on their drives, and keeping turnovers low, ... the Blazers will be in contention, and will keep improving until Playoff time.  Against Phoenix, the top 7 scorers for the Blazers shot 63 % from the field, ... let's hope they can keep this up, ... this mindset is better than the one versus the Thunder.
    I am a fan of Good to see the Blazers developing a "total" team game, under the watchful eyes of Kevin Pritchard and Nate McMillan.
  1. Posted 02/11/2010 4:23 AM

    mw, ... # 52 is only 22 years old, ... G.O. will be back, ... the human knee has to adjust to carrying a certain amount of weight, and with the twisting, jarring type of abuse that the NBA puts on the knee, .. it is easy to see why so many "bigs" have had their careers slowed by wear and tear on the knees.

    Willis Reed of the NY Knicks (60's & 70's) comes to mind.  So, .. mw, .. you are talking about a 22 year old player just two years out of college.  You need to calm down, and stop trying to scare Blazer fans, ... while the Rehab process helps G.O. to get ready for the next pre-season schedule.  Your negative talk in your posts (above) doesn't help anyone, as the half-way mark of the season is at hand.
    I am a fan of Good to see the Blazers developing a "total" team game, under the watchful eyes of Kevin Pritchard and Nate McMillan.
  1. machwonder
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    Posted 02/11/2010 9:34 PM

    Blake is more consitant at point. Even Mac must have seen the team in a funk with Blake not playing much, he started last night and delivered. He did a good job last year when starting. Course this is a new year and he hasn't been as consistant as last year. Maybe this game will get him going.
  1. machwonder
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    Posted 02/11/2010 9:53 PM

    Well size 20 thats your opinion, #52 has had knee problems all through his basketball career. I agree, the knees of a big man in the NBA take a beating and since #52 has already had multiple knee problems I don't believe that will ever change.

    I'm just a realist.
    I must be the only one here that feels this way. I'm begining to see what kind of people post here. Outside this website there are plenty of fans that agree with me.
    So, are you telling me not to post because you don't like what I say?

    Are you the blazer dictator? heh heh heh!

  1. machwonder
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    Posted 02/11/2010 10:04 PM

    TS, Miller can't get the whole team involved, and he can't score 52 a night either. Blake just spreads the ball around better. It's called point guard mentality. Look it up if you're having trouble grasping the concept. bla-do-de-dum-dum-heh heh heh! Rlight!

  1. machwonder
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    Posted 02/11/2010 10:19 PM

    Size 20, All I'm saying right now is Blake runs the team better than anyone else on this team. Trading him would be a big mistake. Balyless is a #2 guard as is IMP, Miller. Miller and Blake worked well together in Phoenix, I'd like to see the team build on that, if they can. The key word here is consistency. Can they make it happen?
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