Rules I'd like to see changed
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/09/2013 5:40 PM

    The amount of fouls I'd make 7

    I'd eliminate the 3 seconds in the paint rule

    I'd require any player that missed a whole season from surgery or medical retirement to qualify with the D league before being allowed to sign with an NBA team. I'd also like to see the team that they retired from have the first shot at resigning them if they decide to comeback.

    I'd make the intentional foul auto 2pts and the ball, speeding up the game and not making the end of playoff games 40 minutes of watching DHoward shoot free throws.

    I'd implement a coaches challenge with video replay the way the NFL does by risking a timeout if the call is not overturned.

    I'd take a serious look at how tech fouls are called and loosen up on calling guys for just showing emotion on the court. With a coaches challenge we'd see a lot less coaches recieving techs or being ejected because they could challenge game changing calls.

    Any shot from half court or further out should be 4pts

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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 08/09/2013 6:13 PM

    I'm w/ u on the intentional foul, call challenge, & D League rule changes ;)  I'd like to add an addition rule change AND 1 change to the NBA in general:  1. NBA SHOULD adopt the SL point system :)  2. decrease the # of NBA teams by @ least 8 (i.e CharLOTTO is DEFINITELY 1 of the 8 I'm talkin' about that should get the axe ;)
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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 08/09/2013 6:15 PM

    I like 3 in the key, but not defensive 3 seconds.

     

    Definitely get rid of Offensive basket interferance, but keep defensive.

     

    Calls that are reviewed  for out of bounds, should have the ability to get the possetion correct in the event a foul was committed which cause the out of bounds.  If they could simply get the possession correct and just chalk up the missed foul to "stuff happens", I'd be ok with that.

     

    The bottom line, refs need ear pieces and a 4th ref on a video replay like in the NFL to help speed up the game.  That 4th official would have a critical role in everything from flopping to flagrants.

     

    I like the idea of awarding something other than 2 free throws for intentional fouls when a team is over the limit, but it does seem rather subjective.  I wrote about 5 sentances with ideas but deleted it, cause it's just a necessary evil in the game. lol

     

  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/09/2013 6:50 PM

    Great points! What do you all think of the amount of games in the regular season? I could see shaving 10 games and having two mini breaks one a christmas and one in the spring. I gotta admit I like the long season as a fan, but it may decrease the quality of play throughout the year and increase the injury risk? I like the idea of a 4th ref in a video booth.
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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 08/10/2013 1:22 AM

    Absolutely would be happy to reduce the games from 82.  66 would be the minimum: 2 games vs every EC team, 2 games vs every non division, western conference team, and 4 games vs every division team.  I don't think there is any reason they can't at least reduce the schedule to 76. (30 vs EC, 30 vs non-WC division, 16 vs division).  6 games would still make a huge difference and seems like a fantastic ballance.

     

    It absolutely decreases the quality of play, increases injuries, and back-2-back games are bad. Not to mention 14 vs 22 is a significant disparity, and everyone wonders why CHA is so bad.  They start the season with a huge handy cap just with the schedule.  A day to prepare before a game matters.

     

    I'd also like to see them change up the divisions based on location/time zone.

    Port, LAL, LAC, Sac, GS

    Phx, Utah, Den, Minn, OKC

    SA, Hou, Dal, Memph, NO

     

    Chi, Clev, Det, Ind, Mil

    Tor, Phil, NY, Brook, Bos

    Wash, Atl, Cha, Orl, Mia

     

    The east would look the same.  It's the west, and portland specifically that needs the change.

     

  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 08/10/2013 9:24 AM

    Get rid of the three point line and no hand checking
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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 08/10/2013 9:59 AM

    @ riverman & Blazer Fanatic, I'm w/ u both on reducing the # of games & for the reasons you've both stated ;)  Blazer Fanatic, I think taking it to 66 would b taking it down too far (as a fan, I wanna c the greatest # of games where we've got max quality w/ quantity), knocking off 10 games is perfect IMO :)
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 08/10/2013 12:18 PM

    A few less games would be good, especially a logically thought out number like BF posted.


    They actually are implementing the 4th referee concept. Stern said it in that annoying press conference that interrupted the SL game.


    I love the idea of D-league qualifying after a long injury. And I'd also like to see technicals dealt out more rationally instead of making them a ref's emotional reaction to a player's/coach's emotions.


    Maybe no hand checking, but on almost everything else, I don't like the idea of changing basketball strategy to cater to the fans. Late game fouling is part of basketball on every level from middle school on up. There would be no way to come back when you're down by single digits late in the 4th. You're taking away EVERY game winner in NBA history with that rule. Plus I'll point out that if you penalize intentional fouling there's no point in awarding a 4 point shot for half court because nobody would ever have to take them.


    I might say add a 1-and-1 foul shooting rule for any non-shooting foul in the bonus. Meaning if you miss the first one you don't get to take the second, but there really isn't much I'd change about the game. If there was some way to get the refs to call everything fair, I would say do that and don't worry about anything else.

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  1. barnettfan
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    Posted 08/10/2013 1:14 PM

    I would like to take it back to the old play off rules  3 games for the first rounds 5 games for the second round and 7 for the championship and finals. I don't like the seven fouls but I do think that technical and flagrant should be separate while still being at 2. Flagrant 2 foul should be an automatic 6 game suspension with a review immediately  after the game to determine whether it was flagrant 2 or 1 so ref's cant fix a playoff. my feelings on this is if you intentionally set out to hurt a player you should lose a lot of money and cost your team. Offensive goal tending is the dumbest rule in basketball get rid of it. Another foul they should get rid of is the clear path foul. Every one I have seen called stops the game for 5 minutes and in the end it penalizes the team for playing basketball. 

    Flopping; it used to be done rarely, now all the superstars do it on every play or so it seems. It is getting ridiculous. !st and second offense should be 25,000 dollar fine 3rd offense automatic 1 game suspension  per game with the coach getting the same fine for each offense. this 5k for the first penalty is BS  LeBron spends that much each day on his jock itch medicine. It is effecting play-offs lets nip this in the bud.

    Finally free agency lets start this before the draft instead of after maybe teams like Charlotte wont spend their life in the lottery and they can actually plan to put a team together or maybe give the top 5 lottery teams a 5 day headstart on free agency. 

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 08/10/2013 1:33 PM

    Here is what I would love to see club demotion each year the bottom two teams in the NBA are removed from the league and replaced by the best two teams from the European league. Not only do these two worst teams get demoted they also lose out on their draft picks transferring high lottery picks to the incoming teams making it more likely they can compete at the NBA level and remain in the league. This would completely stop teams from tanking and punish inept owners who cannot produce a legit NBA product. Furthermore, it would help integrate international basketball, which is something Stern has wanted for a long time.
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/10/2013 8:06 PM

    I'd rather have expansion in the league than contraction. I could see adding 2 teams but I totally agree the time and division zones need to be travel friendly and Western conf should never have teams in NO or Memphis. Make New Orleans and Memphis east coast teams and add a franchise in Seattle and San Diego or Las Vegas. I like the idea of playing teams 4 times only in your division and all other teams 2 times. I think every team should have its own D league affiliate and use it like MLB does. An NBA franchise is a complicated organization and extremely expensive to maintain. Eliminating last place teams every year would be a fiscal pitfall and true disservice to the fan base making yet a stronger case for Big Market monopolies. Competition is good and the NBA does not lack talent to represent cities that want to participate. Somebody always loses. People tend to forget who came in 2nd place as well as last place. If the Knicks have a miserable year, they're not dumping the franchise I promise you. Joel Freeland was a top center in Europe, he's struggling as a 3rd string center in the NBA. That's not going to work.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 08/10/2013 8:53 PM

    I wouldnt change a thing except for maybe adding replays on every questionable call. Id certainly like to see refs get fined after they miss or make the wrong calls after four instances.
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/10/2013 9:02 PM

    I'd change scoring titles to reflect pre 3pt shot era and post 3pt shot era. I think it's a real disservice to Pete Maravich and Jerry West given how many deep shots those guys made for 2 pts as opposed to 3. Never thought that was a fair title to have.
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/10/2013 9:10 PM

    Maybe the most important rule change would also be NO cameramen or equipment allowed anywhere behind the basket, that just never made sense to me. Today's cameras can zoom forever, they don't need to be bumpers for ball players falling down or overrunning the court.
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 08/10/2013 10:13 PM

    Harsher penalties for flopping is a bad idea. Flopping won't stop until the refs start noticing it IN GAME. And I agree with common that the refs need to be held accountable for their decisions.

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/11/2013 10:36 AM

    I always thought it would be interesting to have retired players become refs. I think some of the old school refs need to retire as well....hello Joey Crawford!
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/11/2013 4:58 PM

    Feel free to insert, "Scott Foster" with Joey Crawford there..I do.
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 08/11/2013 8:07 PM

    I actually like and trust Joey Crawford, but I do think he has trouble keeping up with the players.


    Scott Foster is like a poison to the referee profession.

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  1. stacksfan2005
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    Posted 08/12/2013 12:51 AM

    id lose offensive goal tending and hold refs accountable for blown calls. holding refs accountable solves most issues, if its flopping and the ref doesnt call it, it's on him. a 4th ref is ok but i dont want basketball to be 30seconds of play and 2minutes of replays either. 3 in the key is a good rule when it's enforced consistently, which it hasnt been for years. id also crack down on traveling, i could be in the nba if i could take as many steps as lebron. traveling has been an issue for a long time, perhaps a ref in a video booth would help this.


    thats about it i love the game the way i was taught to play it. enforce the current rules consistently and stop giving star treatment on foul calls. just because kobe or durrant or lebron misses a shot doesnt mean their defender fouled them.

  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 08/13/2013 9:54 AM

    Offensive goaltending is needed because the defender can't get the rebound at the same time asthe offensive player does. Defensive 3 in the key is needed so a run and gun team ( lets say gs)  a chance slashing down the lain ( small guard like curry down the  lain and Howard's just camping there already.) I also think a change of hard cap is needed- a team can only sign 1 max contract with 2 12-14 contracts- or 4 12-14 contracts- this eliminates the abuility to sign multiple superstar level players unless the player wants a big pay cut. These are some lottery changes Steve ker likes http://www.nba.com/#$/2013/news/08/12/morning-tip-steve-kerr-guest-column-fixing-the-nba-lottery/index.html

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  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 08/13/2013 9:58 AM

     I also like punishing hack a shaq rule- like last 2 mins of a game, if a player gets fouled intentionally 2 plays in a row he gets 3 ft instead of 2- 

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  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 08/13/2013 10:05 AM

    This would help a team such as houstan- if they are up by 1- and have possition of the ball with 40 sec left, they can keep Howard on the game, a team can foul Howard once but when houstan gets possession again teams can't sag off Howard and foul him intentially and force them to play him strait up(btw my least fav players are Howard and Blake griffen)

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  1. stacksfan2005
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    Posted 08/13/2013 12:05 PM

    you could also implement something for the flop rule, like if a player is caught flopping for the 3rd time in a season you fine the coach. that was coaches would bench actors and we'd never hear from pau gasol again

  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 08/13/2013 12:25 PM

    Um, jamsmashers, shouldn't people who can't shoot free throws be punished for sucking at a fundamental part of the game? I'm telling you, penalizing late game fouling would RUIN BASKETBALL AS WE KNOW IT. Remember Lillard's game winning 3 last year? And remember Aldridge's game winning fade away last year? Remember Brandon Roy's 30 foot catch-and-shoot game winner? Remember Nic's alley-oop lay in against San Antonio to win the game? Do you know what happened before these plays? The Blazers intentionally fouled then called a timeout. Maybe you didn't enjoy those plays I mentioned, but I did. And I'd hate to see the prospect of anything like that happening again erased overnight.

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  1. stacksfan2005
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    Posted 08/13/2013 12:34 PM

    100% agree you cant change late game fouling that's how the game is played and smart coaching says foul the guy that can't shoot. id rather watch 1 close game with an exciting game winner than 40 blow outs.

  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 08/13/2013 3:47 PM

    But it speeds up the end of games- also alows the best offense the team wants on the floor-  ill show you some example- one known well to Portland fans-shaq. Shaq was the most dominate player in the league for yrs, but in today, h would not play the last two mins of the game- rules where put In place so he was not fouled and a quarter wouldn't last an hr. it would also help the good shooters create distance - if tiny Parker gets inbounded the ball, with a foul to give, the other team should be penalized if they fouls Parker again IMO.

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  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 08/15/2013 8:30 AM

    I'd like the NBA to stop this one year in college nonsense. For me, it waters down the quality of college basketball and leads to a great lack of NbA-ready bodies in the league. Either declare straight out of high school or spend 3 years in college like what the NFL does. More mature, more physically ready players. And it will encourage more players to get educated and have more than just basketball to fall back on. The life of an NBA player is so short that after 13 or 14 years in the league, players need to be sure they can still have a stable life after their time in the game. 


    Just a thought. It could backfire completely and we may have no stars going to play college basketball, but I think that the 1 and done rule should be scrapped. 

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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 08/15/2013 8:39 PM

    I agree Cailin, that rule has done NO GOOD and only caused more problems in the league.

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  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 08/16/2013 4:54 AM

    Sometimes players just need a year or two to fill out physically and refine their game over a period of more than just a year. Guys like Brandon Roy, Kemba Walker, Damian Lillard, Dwayne Wade, Tim Duncan for just a few examples, all could have declared after 1 year in college but stayed atleast 3 years and it showed in their games when they got to the league. There are of course a few exceptions and there always will be. But I feel players who get into the league a little later, tend to have longer lasting careers and also seem to play better when they do turn pro. Lillard and Duncan are great examples of this. Their bodies and their minds are just more ready for the life of a professional in the NBA. 

    I am a fan of shouting Batuuuuuum-Shaka-Laka whenever Nic hits a 3!!!!!
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