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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/27/2013 9:47 PM

    McCollum is not the answer at SG, if we are not going to trade Matthews then this pick is wasted. McCollum might be able to score at the next level but he will take minutes away from Barton, which will not help him. 

    Then just flat out wasted our second round draft picks. 

    Torodovic is just as far away from being a Blazer as Freeland was. 

    Jerrett is a terrible athlete and struggle to even get 20 minutes a game last year he is someone that should have stayed in school. 

    Jeff Whitney is okay but the team needs people with a either a high upside or that can contribute right now, Whitney does not meet those requirements. 


    I hope McCollum can shoot at the next level because if not we will have another Nolan Smith, Luke Babbitt on our hands. 

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/27/2013 9:55 PM

    Very dissapointed with our second rounders!!!! Withey was a very good pick but that stretch 4, no-neck, freshman will not make a NBA roster. Neither will that euro


    Why draft McCollum and then get Crabbe??!? Too many guards. Blazers should have got some defensive guys! Would have grabbed Glen Rice, Franklin, TONY MITCHELL, 


    Not impressed with where were heading. I would start a rebuild if I were portland. Blow it up now 

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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 06/27/2013 9:57 PM

    Actually he IS part of the answer; it's going to b sort of a sg by committee thing (have a STRONG feeling that we'll bring in Toney Allen).  This IS NOT a "terrible draft," & it's sad but it seems almost fact now that Wes will b traded to get Gortat (because of our situation + PHX got Len).  This draft AND what's coming IS going to be good!  I'm happy as hell! THIS IS what I wanted!  :)

     

    ps cmeese47, I'm gonna say, "WHAT A TERRIBLE POST."

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/27/2013 10:13 PM

    I actually like Crabbe but seriously from the looks of things I think Portland expects McCollum to be a back up PG and considering his passing number in pick and roll situations were the second worst in college last year, I believe that will be a major stretch for him. 

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/27/2013 10:19 PM

    Ugh were gonna score 110 and give up 130 with McCollum, Crabbe, Lillard, and Leonard probably being our starting center. 


    Withey is nice though


    Hopefully McCollum can light it up and be like LIllard and we can flip him for a great center. Don't like the future of him and Damian. Like the pick though, he was BPA

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  1. schwabbii
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    Posted 06/27/2013 10:29 PM

    Yes, we have a glaring weakness on the defense but we also have a glaring weakness with our ability to score off the bench. I'm semi interested in how we use McCollum, could be fun.

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  1. sug81
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    Posted 06/27/2013 10:32 PM

    I disagree, I think this draft was good (although I was freaking out that Franklin slipped all the way down to us and we didn't take him). McCollum has the potential to be very good at either guard spot. Crabbe and Withey were very smart and worse comes to worse we don't sign either of them along with Jerret. But, there's always that chance we find a second round jem (possibly Crabbe), you never know so I think as of right now it was a good draft, and I don't think a verdict should be made just yet. And what if Crabbe is already better than Barton... never knoooow

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/27/2013 10:40 PM

    Yeah but weird drafting Crabbe AND McCollum. Unless Cj has some real PG skills that no one really thinks, which could be a possibility since that what has played before. 


    I would be very happy if McCollums turns out to be a decent PG and not too much of a defensive liability. 

    McCollum, Lillard and Crabbe could be great or horrible 


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  1. sug81
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    Posted 06/27/2013 10:49 PM

    He may not be the best facilitator, but thats also what everyone said about Damian, and he has a crazy handle. Another person who can create for himself is a great improvement. Now we need someone to clog the paint. And on to Crabbe, I think we should wait to see if it was bad or not, SUMMER LEAGUE

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/27/2013 10:56 PM

    Yeah but now how will we get a center now? So were not going to sign some 6th man SG anymore (Evans, Henderson, Redick)


    Will be interesting to see how Olshey takes on FA



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  1. special k
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    Posted 06/27/2013 11:17 PM

    I think we all are foregetting Dame is working on defense with Payton. With Wesley's heart Crabbes length Dame's all around ability and CJ's shot and handle, this one of the best young backcourts. Probably the best behind GSW. Not to mention The Thrill

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/27/2013 11:23 PM

    I am going to say a few things, some of you might not like them but they need to be said. 


    First 2 first round draft picks were sold today Minnesota at 26 and Denver's at 27. We have I believe the second wealthiest owner in the league and statistically the worst bench scoring wise in the last 20 years in the NBA.  How in hell did we not buy these picks. Really we could use Jeff Whitney and not Rudy Gobert. Not only that but for the second year in a row we sold a second round pick. 


    Second how many shooting guards do we need. I realize Crabbe and McCollum are both supposed to be great shooters but what does that mean for Matthews and Barton? 


    Third while I like Crabbe, taking him after getting McCollum baffles me especially considering Jamaal Franklin was still available and he has a tremendous motor, good defensive fundamentals and a diverse skills set. I have no problem with Crabbe but he has Matthews like handles and little passing ability. Franklin does not have a perimeter shot and turns the ball over too much but consider his tool set and upside passing on him is a mistake.


    Here is what I would have done differently:

    Draft Shabazz Muhammad at #10 McCollum is a solid rebounder for his position and gets into the passing lanes pretty well as well. However, I do not know what shooting numbers to believe he shot 42% from deep as a fresh then 31% then 34% and 51% last year. I like his ability as a catch and shoot guy and his willingness to get to the line. However, his passing skills are very poor to be considered a PG, ranked second worst in NCAA in passing from the pick and roll. He is also too small to be an effective defender at the next level at the SG position. I believe Muhammad wants to be great, I think he just needs someone who can command his respect. I like his fit at SF better than adding depth to the SG position already 2 deep. 

    The Crabbe deal is a nice move for Portland but considering they already have McCollum adding another SG with range is not exactly a necessity. By Portland taking Muhammad at #10, Crabbe has a more defined role as a scorer and shooter off the bench, with McCollum now he is competing with him, Barton and Mattews for minutes. 

    Portland very easily could have offered cash and a 2014 second rounder to Minnesota for pick #26 since that is what they traded the pick for allowing them to take Rudy Gobert. 

    Portland could have then bested the Wizards offer for pick #35 with #39 and #45 to take Tony Mitchell. He is a great rebounder, and defender and if his confidence in his jumper returns he could also become a solid scorer. 

    Lastly with pick #40 Portland should have drafted Erick Greene, he has solid fundamentals on defense but could use some muscle and some physicality. Otherwise he is a great ball handler who had college basketballs best pull up jumper last season. While he might struggle a little with contact and around the rim. His high basketball IQ and significant upside make this pick well worth any risk.


    In one night I just gave the Blazers depth at every position with a lot better talent than what we ended up with. 

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/27/2013 11:33 PM

    I love how you think you know WAY more about the prospects then  Olshey. 


    Why Blazers didnt draft Mitchell is BEYOND me! I also believe we could have bought a late pick. THere was A LOT of deals I wish Blazers could have been but they weren't.


    I want Shabazz to be great! I really like him as a person I and I hope him the best in life because I felt really bad for him.


    But I wouldn't have drafted him at 10. The dude can't create his own shot. He would be getting his points off catch and shoots and garbage buckets.  McCollum's gonna be able to get buckets next season and will be a valuable asset. Shabazz has a high BUST potential. 10th was a hard spot to draft. I probably would have traded it BUT whats Done IS Done

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  1. sug81
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    Posted 06/27/2013 11:47 PM

    I believe that if Lamarcus is traded we get our center, I assume that if we don't, we sign a veteran to mentor Leonard and maybe Withey, probably Dalambert. And I either read or heard (can't remember) that the reason Jamaal Franklin slipped was because of personal issues.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/27/2013 11:56 PM

    This draft was too weird. SO many weird players drafted ahead of players that were SUPPOSED to go higher. 


    Ok Olshey, find a center and maybe another attacking wing then I'll love you. Forever. 


    Wouldnt Big Al make sense? Opens up shooters like Crabbe, CJ, Damian, Nic and Matthews??? I could dig it


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  1. sug81
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    Posted 06/27/2013 11:59 PM

    SOOOO WEIRDDDDDD

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  1. sug81
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    Posted 06/28/2013 12:04 AM

    I feel like almost every team thought they were gonna make a huge splash in the way they drafted but almost everyone did

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  1. DJ48
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    Posted 06/28/2013 12:50 AM

    Portland is not extending maynor. Grant was sold for cash to the thunder crabbe I think will be used in a trade. Crabbe also has the size to play the 3. I think Neil did the perfect thing by getting whithey and the Europe kid because he will stay there. Have extra cash for free agency, Portland I think goes after a player like al horford while teams are busy with Dwight. All in all great draft.

  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/28/2013 2:36 AM

    I hope we got good pieces and we have a plan in place because right now I am confused with the approach but I hope my initial reaction is off.

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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 06/28/2013 3:59 AM

    I don't mind that we drafted CJ and Crabbe. CJ will sort be a backup Dame, and Crabbe can play the 3. This way Will Barton still gets his minutes. Now we are legit, 2 deep at the first 3 positions. I think we should have gotten Mike Muscala though. That irritated me. And Cmeese, PDX didn't buy the picks because they are saving up for free agency.

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  1. The Unholy
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    Posted 06/28/2013 5:48 AM

    Posted By cmeese47 on 06/27/2013 11:23 PM 


    Second how many shooting guards do we need. I realize Crabbe and McCollum are both supposed to be great shooters but what does that mean for Matthews and Barton? 


    could be three things; matthews gets traded; they might want to be able to go small and play three guards, dame, cj, and wes at the 3 but i think as much as they could be lights out shooters i don't think it would be good defensively. i know wes can guard the sf position but idk if cj could handle the 2; or olshey doesn't know wtf he's doing.

    i'm a little disappointed we didn't get any help in the front court but we'll see what happens in free agency.

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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 06/28/2013 6:05 AM

    I think they will cut back Damian's minutes to about 34-36, give CJ solid 6th man minutes, cut back on Wes, give more to Barton, cut Batum's, give to Crabbe for those inevitable stretches where we need offence.

    We had two weakness, bench and centre. We have solved (mostly, free agency still pending) the bench. Started solving centre, with Whithey.

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  1. barnettfan
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    Posted 06/28/2013 6:48 AM

    I am looking at we tried to beef up our bench with a few projects down the way. Withey I see as a D league representative at first, Paul just had to have his euro-love by drafting a bench player from Barcelona. Crabbe or CJ is going to be a trade piece. No neck will be a D league rep for now. Our first and second round draft picks next year are gone so our free agency period this year better produce results.

    The NBA does everything bass ackwards  they should have had free agency start the day before the draft. I think it would make the draft more meaningful and those lottery teams more able to get out of the lottery.

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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 06/28/2013 6:52 AM

    Damiam lillard won rookie of the year at pg,so what do the blazers do? Draft another point guard,nice real freakin nice
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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 06/28/2013 7:06 AM

    Who else should they have drafted at 10? Steven Adams, Olynyk? We drafted another scorer, and someone on the team apart from Damian who can actually handle the ball. We got a sixth man. We couldn't address both issues in the draft. It was either centre in draft, bench in FA, or vice versa.

    And barnettfan, we took a Euro guy to reserve cap space for FA.

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  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 06/28/2013 7:36 AM

    I like the 10th pick. McCollum was definitely the BPA and he really wanted to come to Portland. He is a high character, low maintenance guy who can handle the ball and attack off the dribble as well as being a good shooter at both guard spots. Its gives us more variety on offense. Crabbe is good and so is Whithey. My real question comes in with our rotation where Claver, Barton and Freeland are involved. 

    What do we do with them now that we have better shooters?? Barton is a kamikaze but showed real promise at the end of last year. 



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  1. barnettfan
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    Posted 06/28/2013 8:23 AM

    yep just like 8 out of the last 10 drafts we took a euro guy to reserve cap space. 2nd rounders ARE NOT guaranteed contracts you draft them and they have no commitment to sign. Bench player in Barcelona = wasted pick at least pick some one here you can actually develop with NBA rules. You let them ferment over in Europe and than you have train them here get them up to NBA speed. At Least Batum and Rudy did it right and came here right away. I just don't get the whole draft some bench guy from the euro league when over half the starters are iffy at best.
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  1. Blazerfan7s
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    Posted 06/28/2013 8:35 AM

    I like portland drafting McCollum. I didn't really understand the Crabbe pick up though. Still need another center if the LA rumors are true I'd try to trade him for Tyson Chandler or Noah.

  1. Avgjoe28
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    Posted 06/28/2013 9:46 AM

    I disagree with this being a bad draft. Cmeese you keep talking about Barton and Mathews  a couple things there Mathews has trade value not that i want to see him go but i have a feeling he might be on his way out. I feel there will be a package deal for some one coming in the future Neil kinda hinted at it at his press conference last night. By saying now we have enough guys that we might have value in as were before we did not. We could not trade any one cause our bench sucked and no one wanted them and if we traded are starters we had no back ups. I think you guys should give CJ a chance and see how it all plays out. Personally he was the pick i wanted. Hey but don't let me rain on your hating parade of Neil, Crabbe, and CJ because they didnt draft the guy u thought we should get. Every one is entitled to their opinion I just think its rather unfair to judge before you truly see a player play.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/28/2013 10:11 AM

    I understand if someone can feel upset directly after the draft. This was just Cmeeese reaction to the draft. 


    We got a lot of shooter, I wonder if Blazers try to make a run at Howard?? I think Big Al Jefferson is a target for Olshey with all this outside shooting.


    Don't know what kind player Matthews can bring back to us.

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/28/2013 10:19 AM

    Rip rookies at the bottom of the first or early second round are signed for around the veteran minimum or below for second rounders. So saving for free agency does not make sense. 

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/28/2013 10:26 AM

    Yeah but the thing is Olshey was talking about gathering assets for this whole time. Wasn't this a good time to collect assets because GMs didn't want to keep their picks???? Olshey should have been able to find talent in the late first round.

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  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 06/28/2013 10:49 AM

    Guys like Carlos Boozer and Monta Ellis were second rounders. Guys like Kwame Brown, Hasheem Thabeet and Thomas Robinson were top 10 picks!! Ben Wallace was undrafted and so was Wes Matthews. Draft position is only valuable when sure fire stars are involved. James, Durant, Rose, Irving. Moving 2 second round picks for 1 late first round pick is not guaranteed to get you a better player. Just a more expensive experiment. 


    If we can get the best out of Whithey and Crabbe then it's a success. We've addressed the issue of depth and now we need to address the issue of defense. Everybody must step up on that end. I say we keep Wes and if by the trade deadline we haven't significantly improved, we can try to move one of our starters and try to get back a lottery pick or a couple bad contracts that we can waive in order to make a move in next summers free agency. For now though, I believe we are just a few small steps away from being genuine contenders. San Antonio, Memphis, OKC and both LA teams are the teams we are chasing now. Golden State is on the rise. But with the turmoil in Denver and the changes elsewhere we look to be back in the playoff hunt. Now it's a matter of Coach Stotts and Lillard along with LMA getting this team to play the way we all think they can. High tempo, efficient scoring and better defense. We on our way past the 1st round for sure. I believe in this team and I believe this will be a watershed year. #GoRipCity!!!

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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 06/28/2013 11:02 AM

    mccollum will be a back up pg and Crabbe will be more like Rudy Fernandez in the back up role, i mean pre-injure  rudy. just look at golden state they got way too guard but they almost made it to the western finals
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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 06/28/2013 11:04 AM

    Siccolo, I like Big Al, but too expensive, and we have a younger better version of him in LaMarcus Aldridge. Big Al is a slightly rebounder but that's it. He isn't a good defender, and he blocks about the same amount of shots as LMA. I don't know how a guy puts up 20-10 for consecutive years and doesn't become an all star. Even more underrated than Aldridge.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 06/28/2013 11:32 AM

    Good points CP25. I appreciate Olshey grabbing Withey and Crabbe for free, I'm just being greedy and wanting more player I liked. I trust Olshey found great talent 


    I like the Crabbe and Fernandez comparison DamianLilard! Now Im kinda excited for our second rounders.


    @Ripcity- I don't know what else Portland will do. Pekovic is restircted and Min probably matches. Spiltter is garbage imo. Dalembert will anger a lot of fans, but we will get to see Withey and Leonard play and see what they got. 


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  1. Logic
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    Posted 06/28/2013 12:01 PM

    I think we are extremely lucky to get the talent we got in the draft but I dont know if Mcollumn is the guy who wants to come off the bench. Unless we switch Mathews and him, but thats unlikely. and then we got Crabbe who is another SG and he isn't the guy you want playing the PG. And Whitney was not a good pick not because what we should have done is resign Hickson and make him our starting PF,then we should have picked a backup PF for Hickson, then trade LA  for a good defending Center.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  1. BlazerForever
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    Posted 06/28/2013 12:04 PM

    I think this may become a great pick for the Blazers. Mature, good character, intelligent, and is a natural athlete. In high school, CJ was a baseball player (he was a pitcher), a football player (he was a quarterback), he is well adjusted, well rounded, and will do well with Lillard. I still think we need a seasoned, big man, and a better bench, but we may have picked up a couple of sleepers.  The Trailblazers still need to acquire a couple more pieces to go deep in the playoffs. 

  1. uprised
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    Posted 06/28/2013 1:43 PM

    From where I'm sitting, the take home message is that nobody is off limits right now.  I think Matthews, Batum, and LMA are all in play (packaged with ?) to pick up a starting center.  At least now we have a few chips in the game that aren't underperforming/expensive 2nd tier players.  

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  1. wscott311
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    Posted 06/28/2013 3:15 PM

    Crabbe is just a smart replacement for Babbit. If you watch his draft express report you'll see he's mostly a catch and shoot guy. He'll be better than Luke since he won't be a defensive liability playing out of position.
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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 06/28/2013 3:34 PM

    Why not trade LMA for Asik, 2014 1st, and 2014 2nd.  Then go after T-rob, jj, or Milsap or two of the three.
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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 06/28/2013 3:42 PM

    Because Lamarcus would be useless on a Houston team with D12. Harden is primary scorer, D12's might even make him number one, either way LMA is 3rd. Houston can just get someone cheaper for that role.

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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 06/28/2013 3:54 PM

    How is this a terrible draft? Were you expecting star or even immediate starters?

    We needed scoring off the bench, McCollum definitely provides that, if not more in the future. I'm really sick of Portland fans who hate every thing and every decision this team makes.
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  1. Nuno
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    Posted 06/28/2013 4:06 PM

    i think it was a good draft, we picked Mcollum, that will be our 6th man, will score in bunches off the bench, and 2 more role Players, Whithey to compete with Leonard but a better defender and Crabbe a shooter to compete with Barton. Now we will need to add veteran experience, and that we couldnt do in the draft.
  1. knorton181
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    Posted 06/28/2013 4:08 PM

    And just to let everyone know, there is such a draft strategy as "Best Player Available."

    It may not be the ultimate and undisputed draft strategy, but I'm not going to sit here and tell management and all of the scouts that their process of figuring out which player is best for the Blazers is a terrible one.

    I happen to think this was as good of a draft as any (except for the teams with higher picks or more flexibility.) I think we executed a great plan, and I really like the trade in which we lost two future 2nd round picks because with the youth that we have already we probably wouldn't use those picks anyways.

    As for the players specifically, again I'm not going to a) sit here and pretend that I know very much about scouting and b) not going to say that our scouting is crap. Personally I love McCollum (and within the last 2 years I'm 3 for 3 for first round picks) and I think that we ALL have at one point or another said that we need someone off the bench who can create offense for this team (mostly in isolation situations).

    2nd round picks are always up in the air, I think we'll have to see summer league to get a better judge of those guys and if they have, or can in the future, progressed.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 06/28/2013 4:35 PM

    I dont think anyone thought Noel would fall to sixth. I personally wasnt impressed with him. Nor am i with Anthony Davis. Of all the bigs available this year, we might have gotten the only one who's game really translates to the NBA. This guy stays down on pump fakes and has great shot clock timing. He needs to put on some weight but i think he'll surprise some folks. And Knorton , i couldnt agree more. What were we going to do, pick someone else over CJ ? Who ?
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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 06/28/2013 5:31 PM

    THANK YOU, KNORTON.

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 06/28/2013 7:37 PM

    Really when Davis is putting up 18 and 10 next year with 2 blocks and a steal per game next year are you still not going to be impressed. 


    McCollum has good handles and looks like he can shoot but he is not a great athlete and his size will be an issue at SG. Also considering him the teams back up PG is problematic considering his passing ability or lack their of

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  1. DJ48
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    Posted 06/28/2013 8:04 PM

    McCollum only has to be the point guard for 10 minutes a game and play shooting guard the rest.  Now I'm sure while he's point guard Scott's knows his passing ability needs improvement so he will look for ways for him to score the ball. Stotts knows how to run an offense. He does not have to be a great passer for us. He just needs to drive and kick as a shooting guard and scoring as a point guard. We didn't draft for rookie of the year we drafted for a point guard who can score which happens to be a combo guard so if he improves he will either be traded or mathews or Barton will be. Only way nobody gets traded is if Barton puts on weight to be a 2 and a 3. Then everything will be in balance again. Will Barton has the potential to become a scoring threat and he's already a very good rebounder. All he has to do is build his frame. We have a offensive geinous as a coach and Neil knows that so there was no better pick at 10 then McCollum. Would you rather draft another project center not doesnt have the potential Meyers does or renew maynors contract for a player who's had an acl injury and would cost $2 million more a year. Maynor is a better passer but we need scoring off the bench. And McCollum can provide that for 10 minutes a game as a point guard and another 8 or 9 as a shooting guard. Neil built the team to make the playoffs this year and can do so right now even without a free agent center, but we don't become title contenders tell we get a true center. That's why Neil will most likely take o'neal because he knows we won't win a title this coming season but season Meyers will be that center who becomes a 14 and 10 guys and possibly even 1.5-2 blocks per game. Then we will have a great back up in o'neal. Aldridge only wants out if we don't become title contenders by 2014-2015 season. Neil will make us contenders by then. This team took a huge step in the right direction. Now if a player gets hurt we don't have to go on a 13 game losing streak because we have the depth to fill in the gaps instead of using victor claver. 

    Sorry for the mini rant just tired of people disliking what the front office is doing.

  1. sug81
    sug81
    Posts: 254

    Posted 06/29/2013 12:26 AM

    Crabbe was asked what player he thinks he is most like and he said reggie miller, if he has the basketballs to say that, lets all hope he can back it up... that'd be so nuts could you imagine that?

    I am a fan of that GRIT & GRIND
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