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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 05/21/2013 6:44 PM



    Trail Blazers Draw 10th Selection In Draft Lottery
     The Portland Trail Blazers will hold the 10th, 39th, 40th and 45th overall picks in the 2013 NBA Draft after today’s NBA Draft Lottery determined the order of the first 14 selections.
    Now that it's official, who do you want?

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 05/21/2013 7:29 PM

    I think we should take Shabazz Muhhammed with 10 then find a way another pick in the teens. Mavericks wants to clear space for Dwight. Maybe they take our 3 second round picks and Kostas Papanikolau for their 13. With that I would draft Steven Adams, Gorgui Dieng, or Jammal Franklin


    Think Blazers still might move up to grab Oladipo

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  1. sug81
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    Posted 05/21/2013 8:52 PM

    Okay, unless they are at a slant or slouching or something Cj McCollum looks a lot taller than I thought.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 05/21/2013 9:11 PM

    If Cj McCollum was 6-4 6-5 he would be a top 5 picks

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  1. sug81
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    Posted 05/21/2013 9:14 PM

    Yeah definitely

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  1. EZfasheazy
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    Posted 05/21/2013 11:12 PM

    Alex Len

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  1. NickPitherUK
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    Posted 05/22/2013 5:23 AM

    We need Victor Oladipo. He would be perfect. We need Washington's #3 pick. Trade JJ?

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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 05/22/2013 5:58 AM

    Nah, Washington would just sign him themselves, save them a pick. Also, no way JJ is worth a lottery pick. Oladipo would be great, for pretty much any team in the NBA. I don't think it's possible to get him though. Should focus on getting a defensive big. 

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 05/22/2013 12:23 PM

    I'd rather take gobert over dieng his upside is way higher then diengs only thing about dieng is he's nba ready now 

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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 05/22/2013 12:29 PM

    Assume we keep Batum, LO, Lillard, and Mathews.  What do we have that would interest Cleveland, Orlando, or Washington to give up their top three pick?  Nothing!!!!
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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 05/22/2013 12:36 PM

    Maybe if any of the teams holding one of the top three picks would be interested in #10 plus all of the three second round choices in an effort to add resources.  At least it is worth a shot.  Then  if we could get Oladipo we could go after a defensive center.  Now who is going to be available?
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  1. BDSF_94
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    Posted 05/22/2013 1:22 PM

    Shabazz or Saric. We need bench scoring.


    But I rather move up and get Oladipo.

  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 05/22/2013 2:59 PM

    Not sure about Saric. We already have Claver and Papanikolaou (over in Greece who could come over) and they both can play the 3/4 position behind Batum.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 05/22/2013 3:53 PM

    Hell NO to Saric


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  1. BDSF_94
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    Posted 05/22/2013 4:00 PM

    Saric can handle the ball at 6'11. Idk something about him I really like.

  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 05/22/2013 9:41 PM

    Can he do anything else? Can he actually play his position? Handling the ball is well and good, but he firsts needs to be able to play his position. Rebound, and play D. Until he can do that, don't take him. This is why I think Nerlens Noel won't be very good in the NBA. Even at his normal weight, he is too weak. His defence is mainly shot blocking, and you can't compare blocking college players, most of which are way shorter than him, to big strong NBA players. He has no offensive game. If you ask me, McLemore or Oladipo should go number 1.

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 05/22/2013 10:10 PM

    Posted By RipCity 14 on 05/22/2013 9:41 PM

    Can he do anything else? Can he actually play his position? Handling the ball is well and good, but he firsts needs to be able to play his position. Rebound, and play D. Until he can do that, don't take him. This is why I think Nerlens Noel won't be very good in the NBA. Even at his normal weight, he is too weak. His defence is mainly shot blocking, and you can't compare blocking college players, most of which are way shorter than him, to big strong NBA players. He has no offensive game. If you ask me, McLemore or Oladipo should go number 1.


    if noel can stay healthy and add some muscle to his frame his cieling is probably a prime version of marcus camby witch is great camby didn't need a huge offensive game to be a game changer 

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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 05/22/2013 11:46 PM

    Noel is no Camby. He has good instincts, but two ACL injuries. Camby was never a high flier. Noel is going to keep doing all that dunking, and he will get injured again, and that will impede his shotblocking abilities. The one thing I truly liked about him, was that he would block his own man. As in defend his man, and after his man takes a shot, block it. Not like D12, or DJ or Javale, whose blocks MOSTLY, come from the weak side. That instinct and skill is good, but the injuries are a bad sign. 

    Even ironman Westbrook's high flying antics finally caught up with him.

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 05/23/2013 12:08 AM

    I never said he was marcus camby I said his cieling is likley marcus camby 

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  1. DoubleDz
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    Posted 05/23/2013 12:22 AM

    Can Portland give Dallas cash considerations for the 13th pick? If so, make the deal and package the 10th and 13th for the 4th or 5th pick and get Oladipo or McLemore or gamble and wait for C.J. McCollum at 10 and grab Hardway at 13. Either way i think it will improve our bench.

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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 05/23/2013 2:13 AM

    First need is a centre. And no one will take ten and 13 for 4th or 5th. After like the 10th pick the talent drop off is huge.

    I am a fan of Raymond Felton. Haha, seriously though I'm a fan of Batum's Lobs and JJ's Slams.
  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 05/23/2013 10:31 AM

    Larry Sanders is not huge nor is Serge Ibaka. Noel will add muscle on his frame because all NBA players do plus his body fat is around 5% so he can bulk up some. If he can get up to around 230 he will be fine playing center in the NBA otherwise he will need to play PF and use his athleticism and good footwork to play defense. 


    Noel has shown an ability to use both hands in the post and while his slight frame and poor post foot work are an issue he can be at least decent once his jump hook touch improves. He is great in pick and roll with a Griffin like ability to finish above the rim, and he also has decent handles for a 6'11 player which will help him on face up situations. If his jumper can develop Noel can become a decent scoring threat at the next level. 

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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 05/23/2013 11:41 AM

    I like it, trade two seconds for #13, Dallas saves 1.6 million, trade #10 and #13 for #4 or #5.  Draft Oladipo, McLemore, or Porter.  If no takers then draft Zeller, Hardaway, McCollum, Adams, or Pope with the two picks.  I think we should stay away from Shabazz, Len, or Nerlens.  One can't shoot and the others have knee problems.

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 05/23/2013 11:49 AM

    Or Dallas keeps pick and drafts a foreign player meaning he does not count against the cap. No one is just going to give up a mid level first round pick even in a weak draft for 2 mid second round picks in an even weaker second round of a weak draft.

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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 05/23/2013 4:17 PM

    I have stopped guessing what any NBA team will do under certain circumstances.  Each timeSI they end up proving me wrong even if I thought they would do just the opposite. 

    something else: Since there are 30 picks in the first round then all of our second round picks would be in the first half of the second round.  Are they still mid level by definition? I have heard different people use the term for different level choices.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 05/23/2013 4:34 PM

    Yeah Dallas probably draft and stashes


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  1. hoangpaul123
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    Posted 05/23/2013 7:26 PM

    Trade rights to kostas Papanikolau and 2 2nds for the 13th pick. If mavs are planning on drafting an international player to stash, we might as well give kostas to mavs, because theyre trying to clear space to get dh12 or cp3 to play for them. Then trade pick 10 and 13 and our last 2nd round pick and maybe cash considerations to maybe orlando. I love the idea of lillard and mclemore playing together. But orlando is most Likely picking mclemore if they keep the pick. If they plan to keep theyre pick, trade the 10, 13, and our 3rd 2nd round pick to washington or charlotte for their pick and draft oladipo or even porter.

  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 05/23/2013 8:46 PM

    draft shabazz, i like his game, he can be harden if he work really hard on his defensive game. in the 2nd round i like to draft allen crabbe if he is still there, draft seth curry and kenny kadji. if curry become like his brother, we are winning champ every year starting at 2014. here the best/worst of each player possible outcome of their career

    shabazz-best-harden, worst- luke babbitt

    crabbe- best-ray allen, worst- jimmer fredette

    curry-best- stephen curry, worst-bayless early in his career

    kenny- best- camby, worst- perkins of right now

     

    if all these player turn out at their best we are going to be champ for 2 decades

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 05/23/2013 10:30 PM

    Charlotte is the team that would take the 13 and 10 for their 4th.

    Not sure Oladipo or Mclemore is worth two late lottery picks, even in a weak draft.  I would LOVE to grab one of them but there is plenty of talent left. 2>1 I would be good with either or

    Dallas is the big question mark, if Saric is gone will they trade 13 for Papa and second rounders??? 

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  1. DoubleDz
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    Posted 05/24/2013 12:42 AM

    You think Sacramento will trade 2014 1st rd pick for our 10th pick? That will for sure give us a nice lottery pick next year, then trade the lottery pick and a vet either Matthews or Batum for the number 1 pick in 2014, yup, you guess it, Andrew Wiggins, gonna be a beast. i think thats what we should do with the 10th pick

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 05/24/2013 1:56 AM

    Doubt Sac gives up their 2014 1st rounder


    NO way anyone with the number 1 pick next year trades it

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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 05/24/2013 11:31 AM

    why is everyone high on Shabazz.  He can't shoot and he thinks he's the next best thing to Lebron.  His attitude is not positive. 
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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 05/24/2013 3:50 PM

    if we have no.10 pick still, i like to draft mccollum or shabazz. mccollum can take over PG when damian is resting and he can score quite well. shabazz can score, but he is lazy to defend. so it hard to decide to draft. i think mccollum is the choice. we can go after someone like reddick or mayo in the free agent. mccollum would be a upgrade over maynor
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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 05/24/2013 4:11 PM

    I watched Shabazz at the combine and he was a poor shooter.  In fact he did so bad he did not even show up for drills in day two.  He may be a scorer not a shooter.  If he throws up enough shots he scores.  If someone looks at Shabazz stats his assists are less than exciting so he never saw a shot he did not like. 
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  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 05/27/2013 4:51 AM

    Well I think Shabbazz is starting to fall off a little with his poor shooting. Our system demands guys who can shoot the ball. He would bring a good rebounder and a rim attacker to our rotation but I still think we should go after CJ McCollum. He is a pure scorer and can shoot it way better than Shabbazz can. His size is the only real issue because at 6'3 he is undersized for the SG spot a little. 


    On another thread I suggested trying to trade down and get Dieng with Boston's 16th pick. They would gladly take our 10th pick and Freeland for their 16th pick and Chris Wilcox or (at a stretch) Jordan Crawford who could handle the ball for our 2nd unit. 

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  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 05/27/2013 7:14 AM

    Should not even think about getting another ball handler or a wing until we get a centre. Atleast we are one deep at the PG and SF. We have NO centre.

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  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 05/27/2013 8:05 AM

    I disagree. Although we have depth on the wing, outside of Lillard and Maynor and to a degree Batum, we have nobody who can help facilitate the offense. We need 2 guys on the court who can handle the ball and attack off the dribble at all times. Variation in the offense is key. Lillard will be the main man and PG but we need to get him some help. In Miami, they have James, Wade and Chalmers.

    OKC had Westbrook and Harden. Spurs have Parker, Manu and Neal. Those teams are so good because more than one guy can hurt you at a time. The Celtics had Rondo, Pierce and Allen. 

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 05/27/2013 10:02 AM

    I agree with Cailin, if we dont add another ball handler were gonna be in trouble. Shabazz isnt as bad of a shooter than everyone is saying imo. But CJ is a way better shooter. Ill be happy with both. Dieng too lol

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  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 05/27/2013 11:28 AM

    Thanks Siccolo! I think Maynor at 6'3 is a good 'bigger' PG and his length helps us out. He can bother his matchup and has a good handle. Having him run our offense for 8-10 mins while Lillard sits won't bother me much. But we need a 3rd and 4th option in that department. McCollum will give us a 3rd option. Batum possibly a 4th

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 05/27/2013 11:58 AM

    True McCollum would be a third option and would be pretty good on the offensive side. But having Maynor, Lillard, and McCollum would be a HUGE liability on defense. Damian has a chance to improve because of his work ethic and Gary Payton teachings. I just think having 3 small guards that dont play good defense is a problem. The question is having another great ball handler worth it?? They could work if we add a Great Bigman. 

    Damian, Maynor, Wes, McCollum isnt the ideal guard rotation imo. Could work but idk

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  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 05/28/2013 12:02 AM

    I tend to agree that Dame, Maynor, Wes and McCollum would be not be an ideal guard rotation. There's maybe too much shooting in there. But I think CJ would give us the punch off the bench that we wouldn't get anywhere else. I don't actually like the idea too much but what would you guys think of possibly trading Wes for bigger guard at the SG spot to help out Lillard and McCollum. We could convert CJ into a combo guard. He improved his passing game before the injury and actually can run the offense. 


    So we could let Maynor go and pick up a veteran PG for the minimum while Lillard and McCollum take the minutes at the PG position. McCollum would play some minutes at the SG as well when Matthews takes a rest. It's just a suggestion. Looking at all the options. If I had my way though, I'd get McCollum and keep Matthews because he brings tough defense and good shooting (40% from deep is no joke with the amount of 3's he took this year). 

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  1. Tyler92
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    Posted 05/28/2013 1:43 AM

    I would love to have a player like Oladipo in the Blazers rotation next season hes one of my pick for rookie of the year!

    I am a fan of moving up in this years draft to select Victor Oladipo to play along side Damian Lillard!!
  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 05/28/2013 5:05 AM

    We can't afford to have guys who aren't good defensively. We need at least an okay defender. Klay Thompson is perfect, but unrealistic. I do not like McCollum, because a lot of people think he will be the next Lillard simply because he is from a small school and can shoot. We need a big. We can easily get some free agent PG to pick up the ball handling slack.

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  1. Cailin Pietersen
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    Posted 05/28/2013 5:12 AM

    Lillard will improve. Our perimeter defenders are already good-great so I think we could take a chance on McCollum. He put Lehigh on the map and proved himself a legit scorer at his position. He is also a good off-ball defender so he would make it tough for the opposition to get their shots without him crowding them and forcing them off their spots.

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  1. DJ48
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    Posted 05/28/2013 6:46 AM

    Trade the 10th pick and Aldridge to the cavaliers. In return you get Alonzo gee to back up batum and Tristan Thompson to take over starting of temporarily. You would also get the #1 pick. Sign deandre jordan to start center and Meyers to backup the 5 and 4 positions. Have claver play 4 but limited. Draft nerlen Noel and when he is healthy place him at the 4 most likely backup tell he takes over the starting role. Resign maynor and if we keep the 10th pick trade up using the second rounders for the 4th pick. Take Otto for th 2 spot or oladipo. Use the remaining money to sign another backup pf if needed.

  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 05/28/2013 9:19 AM

    Who will take a bunch of second rounders for the 4th pick? And top 3 picks will be Noel, Oladipo, and Porter. And we will be trading our franchise player for another big man with a history of knee injuries, and a decent rebounder with limited offensive game in Tristan Thompson as much as I like him. 

    AND, why on earth would the Cavs, who are primed to become great in this year or the following, trade not one, not two, but three players, one a number one overall pick for a 28 year PF, as great as he is? DJ is overrated completely and that has been exposed in the playoffs, all he can do is dunk and block, not a great defender, decent to good rebounder.

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  1. DJ48
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    Posted 05/28/2013 10:08 AM

    Cavs want lamarcus give them him and our 10th pick and we can add two players to our depth chart give us 8 million more in cap space. Deandre was just a suggestion but we can get more but for what I've seen the only other better shot blocker in the fa market is Dwight and to take up our remaining $20 million cap from the LA trade would not be worth it. You could get o Neal but the level of production he can get Meyers to can take a couple seasons. Olshey is gearing us up for a deep run this coming season. Dallas wants cap space to try for Dwight so they would take the second rounders and give the 13th. We could take dieng and h could be the back pf while nerlen recovers. Tristan is only going to start until Christmas when nerlen is fully recovered. That gives you depth at the 4 and 5 something we have not had recently. Depth at small forward with batum gee and claver. Then like 14 million to spend on a sg and point guard. I suggest going for Darren collison monta Ellis if you can get him for 11 and collison for 3.

    lillard/collison

    ellis/mathews/Barton

    batum/gee/claver

    Thompson/nerlen/dieng

    FA/Leonard

    you could go for kaman or o'neal, but I wouldn't mind kaman if Meyers improves a lot over the offseason. 

  1. DJ48
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    Posted 05/28/2013 10:16 AM

    I did forget to add the contracts of the nerlen and dieng assuming they will go make a total of 5 million the first year combined your most reliable option at center would most likely be jermaine. Which isn't bad but by Christmas time. Meyers and nerlen should be rolling with jermaine and Thompson backing them up. The backups collison mathews gee Thompson and jermaine. Those guys are all starters for their teams right now and would be backups for ours. That's gives us about a 10- 11 man rotation. Depending on claver improves or not. Barton is finding his scoring touch and can take over if mathews is having an off night offensively or if monta Ellis is. Plus we can get rid of the blazer killer and put him on our rotation. Tired of monta lighting up the opposing box score against us.

  1. RipCity 14
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    Posted 05/28/2013 11:57 AM

    That doesn't change the fact that Cleveland will never trade a double double machine in Thompson, the best player in the draft in Noel and a key starter in Gee. Ellis will be way expensive and will have other people going for him. And we are a team that lives on jumpers. Who would shoot those? Noel? Thompson?

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  1. Nuno
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    Posted 05/28/2013 3:37 PM

    Call me crazy, but see kind of a steal in Ricky Ledo, i´ve been reading about him and watching some videos.

    And he could be perfect for us to come off the bench, to backup either Mathews or Batum.

    He didnt play in college, but from what i saw, he can score inside and outside, he can handle the ball very well ...

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