Are the Blazers shopping Aldridge?
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  1. abarrer3
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    Posted 12/27/2012 11:30 AM

    According to Jason Quick, he had heard that the blazers have been actively shopping LaMarcus. Olshey responded quickly to it with laughter, and said that Aldridge wasn't going anywhere. I feel like this keeps coming up. He had fielded one offer he said, but was just a "feel" for other teams. I hope he remains here because I can only think of a handful of deals that could be considered but a lot that will kill the retooling process they have.

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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 12/27/2012 11:53 AM

    I read the same thing abarrer.  I've also seen Olshey quoted several times as saying that the core of this team is not being tampered with...core being LA, Lillard, Nic, and Wes.  Interesting to me the names NOT on that list.

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 12/27/2012 12:14 PM

    Slow news cycle I guess. 
  1. Tiki Kienle
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    Posted 12/27/2012 2:36 PM

    Posted By BDawg on 12/27/2012 11:53 AM

    I read the same thing abarrer.  I've also seen Olshey quoted several times as saying that the core of this team is not being tampered with...core being LA, Lillard, Nic, and Wes.  Interesting to me the names NOT on that list.


    Agree... Hickson NOT on the list...


    Aldridge is an allstar and a great player. However (with the exception of last night), Aldridge is a poor rebounder and lacks inside dominance. I honestly think it would be in the Blazers best interest to shop him and see if we could get a deal to make us an overall better team (bench, anyone?).

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 12/27/2012 3:11 PM

    Except for last night?

    12/26  12 reb

    12/23  11 reb

    12/22   9 reb

    12/10   12 reb

    12/8   10 reb

    12/5   10 reb

    12/3   13 reb

    12/1   9 reb

    Let's trade our All-Star PF for a bench.  All the championship teams are doing it.

    Heat - Bosh

    Mavs - Dirk

    Lakers - Gasol

    Lakers - Gasol

    Boston - Garnett

    San Antonio - Duncan

     

     

  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 12/27/2012 3:45 PM

    LA is indeed being shopped this team knows what it has in JJ and having him put up 12 and 12 every night at PF is something this team can certainly deal with. LA as an all-star should land a nice haul for this team. 

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 12/27/2012 4:00 PM

    I don't buy it! 

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 12/27/2012 4:17 PM

    It really is LA's fault he refuses to play Center even though that is where the team needs him to play the most. He is not the vocal leader the team needs, Matthews has taken over that role as best he can. Basically, LA is a great #2 player on a contender but as a #1 his teams are lottery bound or low playoff seeds. I like LA and he just might make another All-Star team, but is 21 and 8 that hard to replace.


    Sure 21 and 8 seem like great numbers but considering the amount of minutes he plays. LA is actually 77th among qualified players in the NBA in rebounding per 48 mins. His 21.1 PPG is good enough for 7th but per 48 he is 17th. 


    Those are some good numbers but not irreplaceable. 

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 12/27/2012 5:02 PM

    I still don't buy it. LaMarcus is putting up great numbers and his assists, blocks are up as well. He plays defense unlike some PFs with bigger rebounding numbers

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 12/27/2012 5:07 PM

    LaMarcus is also very unselfish. He could've put his surgery off and played in the Olympics, instead opting for early surgery to be ready for the Blazers this season. Character has value too. I like the fact that our roster based on a core of guys who actually like each other and like the coach. Loyalty has value too and I don't see why a team with Lamarcus won't develop into a championship calliber team. 

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 12/27/2012 5:08 PM

    Right were playing our best basketball!?!?

    We are 14-13 with no bench and center. Great. Now lets blow the team up. WTF!!


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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 12/27/2012 5:46 PM

    I have a feeling something big is going to happen. I honestly do not think Olshey was brought in to baby sit this team, which is essentially what has happened since and even before the draft. I am not sure if trading LA is the move or not but I expect something to happen before the deadline.

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 12/27/2012 8:36 PM

    I trust Olshey's judgement. After so long with interim GM, interim president, interim coach etc...it's nice to see the direction the team is headed and stability for once seems to be the guideline. Olshey said in the summer he didn't want to shed assets to gamble on prospects unless it really had an impact and more recently that there is no comparable value out there for our core starters. It's our bench that needs shoring up. Particularly the 2nd unit. If he's going to do something this season having current players off the bench step up will increase their trade value.
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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 12/28/2012 4:42 AM

    yea I'm not buying that aldridge is being shopped

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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 12/28/2012 5:31 AM

    I don't believe Aldridge is going anywhere.  I think it more reasonable that Hickson be dealt in a sign-and-trade.  Would love to see an Anderson Varejao type player in a Blazer uni.  Sideshow Bob gives you what Hicky does, but is a 5...  Only problem with V that I see, is where he currently sits in the spectrum of his career.  He is 30.  With the ferocity with which he plays the game, health has limited his availability since '09.  I don't see Hicky going back to CLE either.

     

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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 12/28/2012 5:53 AM

    Posted By Tiki Kienle on 12/27/2012 2:36 PM
    Posted By BDawg on 12/27/2012 11:53 AM

    I read the same thing abarrer.  I've also seen Olshey quoted several times as saying that the core of this team is not being tampered with...core being LA, Lillard, Nic, and Wes.  Interesting to me the names NOT on that list.


    Agree... Hickson NOT on the list...

     

    Aldridge is an allstar and a great player. However (with the exception of last night), Aldridge is a poor rebounder and lacks inside dominance. I honestly think it would be in the Blazers best interest to shop him and see if we could get a deal to make us an overall better team (bench, anyone?).

    Tiki...I was also referring to Leonard.  Would hate to see that kid go...not with the tremendously high ceiling, equally high character, healthy, young and athletic frame.  Might be as impactful a player as anyone in that draft in the long haul.  Healthy and athletic 7' centers are all but extinct in todays NBA landscape.  Everybody wants to drift outside and take jumpshots.  Who can blame 'em?  Pays the same and extends your career.  Less work.

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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 12/28/2012 6:57 AM

    Really, trade LA... #OhGod. Go back to the other board, read through the talk. Make your decision. If you really think LA isn't an amazing player tho you must be blind (if you simply watch, without judgement of the "oh-so-impeccable" per-48 min statician, without the rants on message boards, without slighted judgement, then you will see what I see), deaf (how every single analyst, commentator, reggie miller, everyone I've ever met, and so on has numerously said he is one of, if not the best all around PF in the league right now), or dumb (to look at per 48 min statistics at all, bcuz yeah no, you're telling me if Chris Copeland played 48 mins he would have 30.7 ppg... yep, Chris Copeland would fall under the category of better than LA! Man, you must really no your ball)
    Sorry but anyone who can tell me he is not a number one option is out their tree!
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 12/28/2012 9:53 AM

    He is without a doubt a number one option but not for a championship caliber team. I personally really like LA and have no doubts he is one of the best PF's in the game. However, I can guarantee that without significant improvement to his game the Blazers will never win an NBA title with LA as their best player. Trading LA is not an easy proposition as there is no way to get equal compensation of a player at his level, which is why if you are considering making the move it has to be for high draft picks. 


    Considering LA still has time left on his deal and has not made any complaints about the team he is unlikely to be dealt even if he is shopped. Unfortunately, I do believe there will be a deal and as BDawg has suggested JJ Hickson is likely the one to go. That is sad to see considering the kid is 24, having a career year and barring injury will shatter LA's double double team record. 

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 12/28/2012 12:08 PM

    "He is without a doubt a number one option but not for a championship caliber team."  This kind of statement I expect from Blazer trolls, not Blazer fans. 

     

    Heat - Bosh

    Mavs - Dirk

    Lakers - Gasol

    Boston - Garnett

    All four of these guys can stretch defenses like LA can.  They were all the last 5 championship teams.  Even IF you were trading for one of these guys, the price isn't right when we don't have a bench representative of a champion, let alone a play-off contender.

      

    Honestly, double-double bean counters should probably be fans of Minnesota.  Look what the dark side has done to Kevin Love.  He has become a disfigued, disgruntled, robotic shell of what was once a great Jedi.  Do you realy want that for JJ?

     

    JJ has to agree to a trade.  He may want to go back to Cleveland... really?  The one Lebron left with his tallents to Miami?  And the Blazers want an half dozen older version of JJ, who's missed the past 4 games due to knee problems? 

     

    Olsey recieve A phone call from another team, inquiring if Portand would entertain a trade. 

    “Until you get enough phone calls for the message to get around the league that we are not breaking this up to rebuild, that we are building from where we are, (rumors) will probably still be out there,’’ Olshey said. “But clearly, trading a 27-year old All-Star like LaMarcus doesn’t get you better today.’’  If you missed this part of the article, then you missed the real information about who is "shopping."

    Other teams want LA.  This is not news.

     

    And just because JJ wasn't listed with Matthews, Batum, LA, and Lillard does not mean the Blazers won't try to fit him under the salary cap.  Which they have to do after waiving his $7.2 mil cap hold in order to resign him.

     

  1. BDawg
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    Posted 12/28/2012 1:06 PM

    ^ This marks the first time we've agreed on anything Fanatic.  I'm buying a lottery ticket as I type this!

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 12/28/2012 1:33 PM

    Posted By Blazer Fanatic on 12/28/2012 12:08 PM

    "He is without a doubt a number one option but not for a championship caliber team."  This kind of statement I expect from Blazer trolls, not Blazer fans. 

     

    Heat - Bosh

    Mavs - Dirk

    Lakers - Gasol

    Boston - Garnett

    All four of these guys can stretch defenses like LA can.  They were all the last 5 championship teams.  Even IF you were trading for one of these guys, the price isn't right when we don't have a bench representative of a champion, let alone a play-off contender.



    Out of all those players mentions Dirk was the only one who was the number 1 option on his team. Bosh was the third option behind Lebron and Wade. Gasol was number 2 behind Kobe. Garnett was behind Pierce and might have also been behind Allen and Rondo. 


    Dirk won a title with an incredibly deep team. Marion, Chandler and Kidd were all top notch defenders. Terry, Peja, Barea all provided solid offense off of the bench. Haywood and Stephenson also came in an produced in limited minutes. The Mavericks were a solid 10 man team that beat a recently assembled 3 man unit in the Heat. Additionally, Dirk had the ability to create his own shot which made him impossible to guard, LA does not have that ability. 


    LA is certainly a great player and is worth comparing to the names above but I do not believe he is good enough to be the #1 option on a title team. Can he improve sure, Kobe and Lebron do every year but until then Portland needs to make major changes if they want to win a NBA title.

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 12/28/2012 2:58 PM

    cmeese, I think you identified our deficiency roster wise in your comment about the Mavs. 10 men deep. That's what it takes to be a deep playoff team. Dirk is now a lot older than LaMarcus and it took him many many years to win a ring but he did it. So can LaMarcus here in Portland. Having Stotts from that championship team is a plus as well. We're not that far away from being in the mix but to me, trading LaMarcus would be a disaster for the vision of this team moving forward. Takes more than two months to get a team playing together and we're not that bad right now. Shore up the bench and give our staters time to work at a high level under Stott's system and we'll surprise some people. It's going to take some time but in the long run, we've got very important pieces in place. Lakers are stumbling with the same problem, new roster, coach, some old habits are going to be hard to change. Come springtime we may be a lot better than we have been in Nov and Dec.
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 12/28/2012 3:49 PM

    Exactly @River^ !!Weird how Dirk did it and you added a "but" reasioning that isn't an impossible thing to accomplish. And idk what Lamarcus you watch if you can tell me he can't create his own shot. Not Dirk-like fadeaways but you're clearly not watching if you don't see a very versatile big man who can probably score 5 or 6 different ways on offense.

    Also, there is such a thing as a team game. It wasn't just Tim Duncan and the Spurs, was them as a team, although tim duncan for much of his time was partly a #1 option. & It wasn't just Paul Pierce and the Celtics. You act like being a #1 option means you have to carry the entire team (except for some you kind of acknowledged Dirk as the exception). No, LA can score in bunches, in variety, often with ease, making him easily a #1 option, but you're right in saying that he is not Kobe Bryant, he is not Lebron, he will not carry this team alone, you couldn't find me a player at his position who COULD do that ALONE. Given his teammates mature & gain a little more consistency, the team & him will rise as he gets less pressure & better shots. Plus with some great bench additions.

    I really cannot figure how you could have determined (I don't care how much time you've studied or spent time on the earth watching basketball) that at this point there's no way this team will win with Lamarcus.

    Btw I love how towards the end of your argument, you realized you probly lost the argument with the Dirk thing, so you then added "beat a recently assembled 3 man unit," as if to take away from the Mavs victory and make it seem like 'yeah but that never should've of happened'. Hey bud, a ring is a ring. Call me crazy but anyone that gets to the semifinals has a shot at changing history. Just like the Mavs did, and just like I believe this core unit can.

    You can pretend that "realistically" it will or won't happen because of x, y, and z. Though I'm sure there were plenty of people who would have said that about the aging Celts, the eldered Mavs, the young Thunder, Lebron being a choke artist, etc. Nothing in sports is set in stone, remember that. And until it happens, sure, there will always be people to doubt. So I guess thank you for making this mean all the more if it does. It is not unrealistic to believe in this team, I can tell you that much though. It is not unrealistic to think that they could become something great. Hell I'd be nuts if I said J.R. Smith could be named MVP in 2 years, this is not one of those far-fetched ideas, though

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 12/28/2012 4:26 PM

    yea I think were fine with aldridge he probably won't end up being a number 1 option though in a couple years if lillard develops

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 12/28/2012 4:57 PM

    We have a championship starting 5, we have a D League bench

    Peja, Barea, Stevenson, Hayward

    Haslem, James Jones, Bibby, Mike MIller

    These were the championship benches. 

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 12/28/2012 5:51 PM

    cmeese47,

    It's too painful to walk the fine-line between shreading that argument, and not shreading you, so I'll just leave you to your opinion, and go do laundry.  I could not disagree more with your opinion, or logic, anymore than I do in regaurds to LA.

  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 12/28/2012 6:58 PM

    No one can see the future so there is no way to know right now who is correct. I do not believe LA is good enough many of you do. Secretly I hope you are all right and we can win with LA but I am not believer. I do not mean to offend anyone these are just my beliefs simple as that.

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 12/28/2012 9:41 PM

    Posted By cmeese47 on 12/28/2012 6:58 PM

    No one can see the future so there is no way to know right now who is correct. I do not believe LA is good enough many of you do. Secretly I hope you are all right and we can win with LA but I am not believer. I do not mean to offend anyone these are just my beliefs simple as that.


    I'm not offended, but your argument isn't dissimilar to the end of the world argument people say the Mayans predicted.  In fact, I would argue there is more evidence that the Mayan's were correct than your take on LA.
  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 12/28/2012 11:09 PM

    If we dont get someone better for LA then why trade him ...??? Simple as that -_-

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 12/28/2012 11:39 PM

    Posted By Blazer Fanatic on 12/28/2012 9:41 PM
    Posted By cmeese47 on 12/28/2012 6:58 PM

    No one can see the future so there is no way to know right now who is correct. I do not believe LA is good enough many of you do. Secretly I hope you are all right and we can win with LA but I am not believer. I do not mean to offend anyone these are just my beliefs simple as that.


    I'm not offended, but your argument isn't dissimilar to the end of the world argument people say the Mayans predicted.  In fact, I would argue there is more evidence that the Mayan's were correct than your take on LA.

    I fail to see the evidence here. The Blazers have not won a single playoff series since we acquired Aldridge. This certainly does not suggest he is capable of leading this team to a title. 

    Can things change of course but right now their is no reason for me to change my tune.

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 12/29/2012 1:29 AM

    Players don't win championships.  Teams win championships.  Not having LA makes this team much less of a championship team.  He was the only Blazer on the court vs the Fakers that scored at will, creating his own shot, playing solid defense.  He did it all.  He got very, very little help. 

     

    Noone ever won a championship by themselves.  In fact, Lebron, Wade, and Bosh could very well have not won the championship last year were it not for the solid play of guys like Mike Miller.  Lebron never won a championship in Cleveland.  Did you forget the Blazers last play off appearance was a lost to the NBA champions that year?  Did Dirk win it all by himself (cough - tyson chandler, jason terry, jason kid...) Your argument doesn't hold any water in reality. 

     

    So, for the purposes of this thread, I just ask you stick to the assumption I made, that like Olshey:  Matthews, Lillard, LA, and Batum are not going anywhere.  What do you do to build a contender around them? 

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 12/29/2012 1:31 AM

    FAIL.  Ok, so I'm in the wrong thread.   Disregaurd the last paragraph.
  1. BLASER
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    Posted 12/29/2012 7:54 AM

    Posted By cmeese47 on 12/28/2012 11:39 PM
    Posted By Blazer Fanatic on 12/28/2012 9:41 PM
    Posted By cmeese47 on 12/28/2012 6:58 PM

    No one can see the future so there is no way to know right now who is correct. I do not believe LA is good enough many of you do. Secretly I hope you are all right and we can win with LA but I am not believer. I do not mean to offend anyone these are just my beliefs simple as that.


    I'm not offended, but your argument isn't dissimilar to the end of the world argument people say the Mayans predicted.  In fact, I would argue there is more evidence that the Mayan's were correct than your take on LA.

    I fail to see the evidence here. The Blazers have not won a single playoff series since we acquired Aldridge. This certainly does not suggest he is capable of leading this team to a title. 

    Can things change of course but right now their is no reason for me to change my tune.

    we didn't win a playoff series with b roy leading the team either bet you were against b roy trade talks too huh 


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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 12/29/2012 8:35 AM

    Hey I still want them to make the Trade for Kevin Love.lol
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 12/29/2012 9:43 AM

    The question is not is trading LA bad because it depends on what you get for him in return that really makes the difference. 


    If he leaves as a free agent in a few years and we get nothing for him then is this trade LA talk really such a bad thing to consider?

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 12/29/2012 12:21 PM

    Posted By cmeese47 on 12/29/2012 9:43 AM

    The question is not is trading LA bad because it depends on what you get for him in return that really makes the difference. 

    If he leaves as a free agent in a few years and we get nothing for him then is this trade LA talk really such a bad thing to consider?


    So we should trade him for someone who isn't any better and doesn't costs any less, OR trade him for multiple players that could never in a million years score 26 points in 26 minutes on howard/gasol, can't create their own shot and make it more often than not, is not the combination of tall/long/quick, and is not the great team player and person LA is.  How are you still able to get online and type when you sold all your possessions expecting the end of the world?
  1. riverman
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    Posted 12/29/2012 1:33 PM

    We didn't make it out of the first round of the playoffs with Nate McMillan coaching. We've yet to see what Terry Stotts record in the playoffs with the Blazers will be. The year the Mavs won the championship they said we played them tougher than anyone in the West and we did. This year, coach and roster can not, or rather should not be defined by previous versions of the Blazers. TEAM is the name of the game. In my opinion when the Mavs won a championship they didn't have one player as good as LaMarcus and when Detroit won last they didn't either. Both teams were well coached and had a team system that worked though. Stotts has been to the show and been part of a championship. Nate never was as a coach. 

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 12/29/2012 1:34 PM

    lol aldridge is a top 5 pf if not the second best in the league 

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 12/29/2012 2:51 PM

    Aye Brandon Roy was a beast hahahahahah 

    But no other team trades there best player because they cannot win a playoff series, they just have to build around him. Which is what we are doing....

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 12/29/2012 3:11 PM

    Trading Superstars is always a bad idea right? 


    I bet the Jazz would disagree considering they got Derrick Favors and Enes Kanter for Deron plus they are still owed a first round pick. They turned their All-Star PG into their front court of the future and opened a ton of cap space as well. Whatever they get with their next first rounder will be gravy. 


    I also believe that the Nuggets would have a hard time agreeing as well. Carmelo is a legit super star much more so that Deron and yet the Nuggets still got plenty in return for him. D. Gallinari, W. Chandler, R. Felton, T. Mozgov, cash, 2 second round picks and a 2014 first round pick. Felton was exchanged for Andre Miller and Kenneth Faried. Gee this seems like a good deal even with Chandler playing like crap this year. Not to mention what they could get in the future with the picks they still have. 


    You don't just trade LA for anything but you sure as hell need to listen if a team wants to make a similar offer to what the Nuggets or Jazz got for their superstars. 

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 12/29/2012 3:51 PM

    I don't think it's always a bad idea at all cmeese. Trading unhappy superstars is part of the business and in both those cases, Melo and DWill were unhappy. Sometimes it's the coaching change more than the players themselves. The Jazz are rebuilding and have some nice pieces but they don't have Jerry Sloan or Deron Williams anymore and that didn't bring them closer to a title in my opinion. Denver did not get closer to a title when Melo left either. LaMarcus likes it here, likes the coach and his teammates. That's a valuable thing to build on. We're half way there now and it's the bench we need to upgrade.

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 12/29/2012 4:05 PM

    That all maybe true at the moment but fast forward to next year and we could be facing losing LA for no compensation it becomes more important to know LA's thought process. If he at all shows an inclination that he is going to leave then we need to maximize our assets and trade him. If not then build around him and see if he can prove me wrong and lead us to a title.

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 12/29/2012 4:14 PM

    Check out his statements on video this season, he publicly states he wants to retire his jersey next to a championship banner in Portland. Sort of like Duncan said in San Antonio. These guys are rare and we've got one here in LA. 

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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posts: 610

    Posted 12/29/2012 5:06 PM

    Alot of guys say alot of things though, I'll never forget Elton Brand Lobbying to get Baron Davis to play with him on the clippers,and as soon as clippers signed Davis,brand Split for like a few million more
    I am a fan of Sexy Blondes at courtside
  1. Humble822
    Humble822
    Posts: 12

    Posted 12/29/2012 5:20 PM

    lol the blazers are not shopping aldrdige infact olshey and stotts both believe in aldridge. they believe that he can be one of the leaders on this team there is no reason to shop aldridge

    "Until you get enough phone calls for the message to get around the league that we are not breaking this up to rebuild, that we are building from where we are, (rumors) will probably still be out there,'' Olshey said. "But clearly, trading a 27-year old All-Star like LaMarcus doesn't get you better today.''
       - Neil Olshey

    I am a fan of the Portland Trailblazers winning a championship
  1. cmeese47
    cmeese47
    Posts: 2735

    Posted 12/29/2012 5:42 PM

    GM's are paid money to lie to the media simple as that. If the Blazers were offered Lebron for LA he would be gone in 30 seconds flat. Right now there might not be an offer worth trading LA for but do not think for a second that if a good offer came up Olshey would not at least consider the deal. 

    I am a fan of Getting Defensive Players This Summer.
  1. BLASER
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    Posts: 757

    Posted 12/29/2012 5:49 PM

    I don't think he would consider it unless it was for another superstar witch is unlikley 

    I am a fan of defensive man beasts
  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posts: 758

    Posted 12/29/2012 6:10 PM

    Your argument cmeese is an apeal to ignornace.  I'm not calling you ignorant per say.  I am saying your argument is logical fallacy.  You could say the same about an argument that says "LA is remaining a Blazer" were it not for a land slide of evidence that he is the best player on the Blazers, among the best PFs in the game, LA likes Portland and the team, Olshey has said he wants to build around LA, LA has said he wants his number in the rafters...   Disregarding all of these things, which contradict your argument, is silly.  I don't understand the purpose of believing what you believe if not to simply be disagreeable. 

     

    I'm not saying it is not at all possible LA leaves the team, I am saying it is extremely and highly unlikely.  Everyone knows a trade for Lebron would never happen.  It's rediculous to suggest Miami would do that.  Do you just enjoy writing facical fantasies?   What's the point?  

  1. schwabbii
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    Posts: 205

    Posted 12/29/2012 6:24 PM

    I honestly agree with Cmeese, which I know will bring about a lot of "That's a fallacy and illogical!" talk. Yet lets look at some things that need to be mentioned. Do we really not see the gaps in LA's game to realize that if a good offer was indeed put onto the Blazers table that we would still reject it? I love LA and offensively he is the go-to guy for this team. Yet look at the guy on the defensive side of things. Don't throw stats out and say that he gets a lot of double doubles because the guy is 6'11" and all muscle. There is no excuse for poor defense and I feel like we overlook his lapses on the defensive side because of his scoring capabilities. It seems like every game that I have been to and/or watched, LA will rarely fight for the rebound or go the extra mile to fight for the ball defensively. Like I said, I love LA and I don't see a trade coming up anytime soon that would warrant trading him. Yet like cmeese stated before, teams like the Jazz have traded away their star players before for the bettering of the team and look much brighter for the future because of it. 

    I am a fan of
  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posts: 758

    Posted 12/29/2012 6:56 PM

    The Jazz aren't better.  They are still a mediocre, 1 and done play-off team at best.  I'm not a gambler.  The house wins a majority of the time, and it would be at Portland's expense in this case.  I don't understand how you can watch LA play, and say you do not want him on this team.  People called him soft, that he wasn't an All-Star, that he wasn't clutch... he proved them wrong time and again.  If you don't like LA, just say it.  Don't hide behind excuses and weak logic and make-believe stories of what could be.  If not LA, who are we suppose to aquire in a trade that makes us better?  Show me a trade that makes sense for Portland, that both teams would agree to, and I will stop saying you guys are living in an alternate reality. 

     

    I disagree LA plays poor defense.  His blocks and steals are up.  He made several plays lastnight vs two 7ft big men that forced turnovers which did not show up on the stat sheet.  He has very fast hands for a big man.  I don't know what games you guys watch, but we cannot be watching the same games.

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