Greatest Trail Blazers: #4 Pippen vs. #5 Natt
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  1. DHawes22
    Posts: 6488

    Posted 08/02/2011 10:12 AM

    Who should advance?
    #4 Scottie Pippen (15)
    #5 Calvin Natt (19)

    #4 Scottie Pippen vs. #5 Calvin Natt

     #33 Scottie Pippen | Forward | 6’8” | 228 lbs
    Written By Aaron Grossman
    Career Stats As A Trail Blazer: 32.3 mpg, 11.4 ppg, 5.3 rpg, 5.0 apg, 1.53 spg, 0.50 bpg, .440 FG %, .319 3 PT %, .757 FT %

    A #4 seed for one of the NBA’s 50 Greatest Players of All-Time (as voted in 1996)? Well, nobody could argue Scottie Pippen’s place in basketball lore, but this competition is reserved for accomplishments while wearing a Trail Blazers uniform. Still, Pippen deserves strong consideration. In four seasons in the Rose City, Pippen averaged 11.4 points, 5.3 rebounds, 5.0 assists and 1.53 steals per game. In other words, he did it all. And Pippen was nothing if not consistent. He averaged at least 10 points, four rebounds, four assists and 1.4 steals every year in Portland. A veteran of 12 NBA seasons before he even strapped on the red and black uniform, Pippen was also a steadying presence for the Trail Blazers on the court and in the locker room.

    In his first season as a Trail Blazer in 1999-2000, Pippen helped Portland return to the Western Conference Finals for the second consecutive season. During the team’s playoff run, he led the squad six times each in scoring and rebounding (both team highs). At 34 years young by the end of the year, Pippen earned Second Team All-Defensive honors after appearing in all 82 games with the Trail Blazers. In just 26 total playoff contests with Portland over four seasons, Pippen ranks tied for fifth in 3-pointers made (33) and ninth in steals (44) to this day.

    Schonely Speaks:
    "Everyone knows the story of Scottie Pippen with Chicago, but while he was here for that short period of time, Scottie could do it all."

    Photo Gallery: Scottie Pippen Through The Years

    #33 Calvin Natt | Forward | 6’6” | 220 lbs
    Written By Aaron Grossman
    Career Stats As A Trail Blazer: 33.1 mpg, 17.2 points, 6.9 rpg, 2.2 assists, 0.87 spg, 0.35 bpg, .543 FG %, .228 3 PT %, .766 FT %

    Calvin Natt burst onto the NBA scene as a rookie in 1979-80, and the Trail Blazers took quick notice. Just 53 games into his career, the physical forward was acquired by Portland from New Jersey in a trade that sent away the legendary Maurice Lucas. Barely a week after his arrival in Portland, Natt would score at least 20 points and lead the Trail Blazers in the category in seven straight games. He finished up the season in Rip City as the Trail Blazers’ leading scorer in his 25 games (20.4) en route to a spot on the NBA’s All-Rookie Team.

    Natt averaged 17.2 points and 6.9 rebounds, while shooting a lofty 54.3 percent from the field, during parts of five seasons with Portland. He repeated his scoring excellence as a rookie in 1982-83, when his 20.4 points ranked second on the squad and helped the team to a spot in the Conference Semifinals. Natt twice ranked among the league’s top five in field goal shooting (1981-82, 57.6%; 1983-84, 58.3%). His 54.3 percent shooting mark overall as a Trail Blazer ranks second in club history, trailing only Buck Williams (55.0%). By the time he was traded away in 1984, Natt was so valued around the league that he was part of the deal that brought Portland’s newest star, Kiki Vandeweghe, to the Trail Blazers.

    Schonely Speaks:
    "When Calvin was called upon in his day in the Blazer uniform, he got the job done - whatever he was called upon [to do]."

    Photo Gallery: Calvin Natt Through The Years

    The polls will stay open for one week, The player with the most votes will move onto the next round. Who should advance in this matchup and why?

    Bracket: The Greatest Trail Blazer Of All-Time
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 08/02/2011 11:20 AM

    Pip is obviously the better player, but this has to do with their Blazer career. He did lead us to the WCF but Natt had better stats as a Blazer and was part of a Western Conference Semifinal squad. To me, the addition of Pippen was supposed to get us the ring as we were already there (WCF) the previous year without Scottie. There's no doubt he was clutch for us that year but after Game 7, the team was never the same. I'm leaning towards Natt but will wait to hear some of your responses first before I make my decision.
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  1. Blazers6thMan
    Posts: 56

    Posted 08/02/2011 11:27 AM

    I think Natt did more for the Blazers than Pippen. We got him way too late in his career and maybe it would be different if they didn't get whooped out of the WCF that one time...
    I am a fan of being the team to fear in the Western Conference!
  1. Kassandra
    Posts: 466

    Posted 08/02/2011 1:28 PM

    Natt had more points and rebounds; Pippen more assists, with Natt shooting a much higher percentage from the field. statistically, you have to give this one to Natt. Pippen showed a lot of leadership which, with six rings, is what he should have done. i did have one quote as a blazer which has always stuck in my craw: "this team is not built to win a championship." now, he may have been correct, but it's probably not a great thing to say to the public. it was also these squads who ushered us into the dark era (mind you, i'm not specifically blaming him for that). i've had family, friends and family friends tell me about how hard a worker Natt was. while Pippen helped lead us to the conference finals; how many of our early 80s teams would have even made the playoffs without Natt's contributions? gonna go with Natt on this one.

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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 08/02/2011 1:55 PM

    I went with Pippen by the slightest of margins. Natt was a great player in his own right but I don't think he played with the pressures that Pip had to deal with while playing in Rip City. I mean, I still remember when we acquired him; it was mania. We had lost the year before to San Antonio and it was this man who would lead us to the promise land. Not only did he play with that burden of being the savior but he did it with a bunch of explosive personalities. If it weren't for him, I think we get swept out of the WCF, at least we made it to 7. He was the ringleader of that team and really did his best to keep Sheed & Co in check. Also, I can't blame him for that team going downhill after that loss. I don't think any team would have been able to bounce back after that.
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  1. John Berner
    John Berner
    Posts: 5

    Posted 08/03/2011 1:21 PM

    I've owned three jerseys in my life. My Drexler jersey, my Kenji Johjima Hanshin Tiger's jersey, and finally my Pippen Blazers jersey. I LOVED having Pippen in Portland as I havemore respect for that Bulls team than any other non-Blazer team thats ever existed, and I think he was great while he was here. May not be remembered by many as a Blazer, but he definitely was, and i think had a greater impact on the teams overal game than most.
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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 08/03/2011 1:44 PM

    Calvin Natt was the man. We got worse after we traded Natt, as we watched him become an NBA All-Star for the Nuggets. His time was too short with the Blazers, as that 3 for 1 trade (Natt, Lever, Cooper for Vandeweghe) was a bad idea to begin with, as that was the 3 fan favorites for 1 dude. I think given more time, Natt would've been a very special player for the Blazers.

    Pippen....was a Bull for too long. He played his tail off when he was a Blazer, really sparked this team for a lotta big wins. But he spent too much time as our enemy, for me to give him props over Calvin Natt.
    I am a fan of multiple All-Stars on the Blazers roster this season!
  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 08/03/2011 2:19 PM

    Wow, was the trade really Lever, Natt and Wayne Cooper for Kiki? I think you may have sold me on choosing Natt, Tobyus. I know we can't take into consideration what a player did while playing for another team, but to think that Natt became an All-Star after he was a Blazer instead of before makes me believe he could have become that type of player had we kept him.
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  1. BlazerBear
    Posts: 97

    Posted 08/03/2011 2:42 PM

    Went with Pip. I think a lot of people are forgetting his last season as a Blazer, in 2003, when he basically replaced Damon as the starting point guard and helped lead us to the 6th seed and a nearly improbable comeback from down 0-3 against Dallas. He was just that versatile.
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  1. daveschedin
    Posts: 44

    Posted 08/03/2011 3:57 PM

    Anyone who votes for Pippen, needs there head examined..Pippen will forever be a Bull, who beat us by the way..and Calvin Natt was an all-round great player and guy, in a Brian Grant mold (so to speak)..

  1. The Glyde
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    Posted 08/03/2011 11:53 PM

    Natt all the way on this one. Nevermind the fact that when Portland traded for Pippen, one of the main reasons was to have a guy who could step up and help win big playoff games--like game 7 in LA.  We all know what happened there, and the ensuing post-game soundbite: "We kinda made cowards out of ourselves in the 4th quarter..."

    Enough said.
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  1. The Glyde
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    Posted 08/03/2011 11:57 PM

    Tobyus has it right. I remember the trade, and couldn't believe it. Portland also gave up a first round pick, which turned out to be Oregon center Blair Rasmussen.  When Vandeweghe scored 48 on opening night in Kansas City, everyone did a double-take.  But Kiki couldn't put up 40 every night.  Natt could play both positions in the front court, and was certainly underrated during his time in Portland.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 08/04/2011 10:48 AM

    The player who got away in that deal had to be Fat Lever though. 19 pts, 9 rebs, 8 asst and 2.5 stls for four straight years (86-90) is unreal. I would have loved to seen him in a 3 guard rotation with Drexler and Porter!
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 08/08/2011 9:47 AM

    Pip gets upset by Natt in a close one, 16-13.
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