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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/26/2010 12:23 PM

    Who would be your Plan B?
    Darren Collison (11)
     10%
    Mike Conley (5)
     5%
    Monta Ellis (6)
     6%
    Devin Harris (12)
     11%
    Tony Parker (27)
     25%
    Mo Williams (13)
     12%
    None of the above (Keep Andre Miller) (34)
     31%
    If the Hornets decide to play hard ball and not deal Chris Paul, who then does Portland turn to for their Plan B? Since all of the rumors out there have us targeting an upgrade at the point, let's play along, and think about the other 'realistic' attainable point guards Portland could go after if the Paul pipe dream is dead.

    Darren Collison: 6-0, 160 lbs, Age 22

    2010 Averages: 12.4 ppg, 2.5 rpg, 5.7 apg, 27.8 mpg, .477 fg %, .400 3pt %, .851 ft %, 1.0 spg, 2.7 spg

    Pros: Young, showed the ability to run the team with Paul injured, much improved jump shot from college

    Cons: Put up nice stats despite losing efforts, one year wonder?, needs to add weight




    Mike Conley:
    6-1, 185 lbs, Age 22

    2010 Averages: 12.0 ppg, 2.4 rpg, 5.3 apg, 32.1 mpg, .445 fg %, .387 3pt %, .743 ft %, 1.4 spg, 2.1 to

    Pros:
    Still extremely young after 3 years experience, chemistry with Oden, solid 3 pt shooter, ability to get to the basket

    Cons: Still waiting for everything to 'click', will he ever reach potential or is he tapped out?, upgrade over Miller?




    Monta Ellis: 6-3, 180lbs, Age 24

    2010 Averages: 25.5 ppg, 4.0 rpg, 5.3 apg, 41.4 mpg, .449 fg %, .338 3pt %, .753 ft %, 2.2 spg, 3.8 to

    Pros: Elite level scorer, amazing fit next to Roy, legit second scoring option, great endurance

    Cons: Contract (4yrs/$44 million remain), turnover prone, not enough basketballs to go around, moped incident




    Devin Harris: 6-3, 190lbs, Age 27

    2010 Averages: 16.9 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 6.6 apg, 34.7 mpg, .403 fg %, .276 3pt %, .798 ft %, 1.2 spg, 2.8 to

    Pros:
    Prototypical PG size, ability to slash to the hoop, can either be a scoring or distributing PG depending on flow of game

    Cons: Couldn't lead team to many wins, terrible 3 pt shooter, already peaked (All-Star in 09)?, worth the price of acquisition?




    Tony Parker: 6-2, 180 lbs, Age 28

    2010 Averages: 17.3 ppg, 3.8 rpg, 5.4 apg, 30.9 mpg, .487 fg %, .294 3pt %, .756 ft %, 0.5 spg, 2.7 to

    Pros: Finals experience, quickness, can score or pass, amazing ability to get to the basket and finish

    Cons: Relies on quickness (what happens when it leaves him in a couple of years?), Last year of contract (1 year rental?), What would the asking price be?, Can he play off the ball?



    Mo Williams
    : 6-1, 190lbs, Age 27

    2010 Averages: 15.8 ppg, 3.0 rpg, 5.3 apg, 34.2 mpg, .442 fg %, .429 3pt %, .894 ft %, 0.4 spg, 2.2 to

    Pros: Elite shooter, ability to take pressure off of Roy, Oden, can play off the ball, perfect fit

    Cons: Didn't show up in the playoffs, defense is suspect,  contract is suspect (3 yrs/26.3 million remain),
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 07/26/2010 12:27 PM

    Keep Dre, and lets see some Williams .
    Williams could = Harris , imo.
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  1. lightskin350
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    Posted 07/26/2010 12:43 PM

    By the trade deadline Chris Paul might not be wearing a Blazer jersey but you can bank on the fact that he won't be wearing a Hornets one either. Like I have said before, Paul will be in N.O. for as long as he wants to. They are not a very good team and will be in the lottery next year....CP3 healthy or not. The Blazers still need to upgrade their PG position:

    In my eyes both Devin Harris and Tony Parker are almost equal. Parker has the championship expierience that this young Blazer teams needs but could not stay healthy the last couple of seasons. Parker is also the better shooter which would fit really good next to Roy. Devin Harris is like Gilbert Arenas and is a score first PG and would be a huge upgrade over Andre Miller.

    I don't know what Portland is going to do to fix their PG position BUT if they stay idle they will be bounced out of the 1st rd again with Andre Miller. It's no coicendence that every team he has taken to the playoffs HAVE NEVER MADE IT OUT OF THE 1ST ROUND!
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  1. lightskin350
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    Posted 07/26/2010 12:45 PM

    kim, sorry andre miller MUST GO!!!
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 07/26/2010 1:00 PM

    Sure, then next season, whoever they bring in will have to go too.  It's Portland pg musical chairs x 4 seasons and counting.
    Dre is not the long term solution the Blazer brain trust needs to make a decision on.  It's who takes the keys when Dre is gone.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/26/2010 1:22 PM

    I can't make up my mind, but I do know that Tony Parker is the lowest of the totem poll for myself. He's an expiring contract, and although players fall in love with Portland, I'm not to sure we could win over Eva Longoria. Also, his game is based on pure speed and quickness, and he hasn't shown the ability to play without it. What happens when he turns 30 and his physical abilities start to wane? Finally, I wouldn't deal Batum for him and I just don't see a package we could offer to entice them enough for it.
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  1. debra31098
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    Posted 07/26/2010 1:40 PM

    I say keep your trading pieces for now....I think CP3 probably will be traded down the road. I also think that Andre was not allowed to play to his best game in Nate's system....also a couple of months were wasted last season with the BLAKE/Miller and who should start drama....and please Nate...pick five and stick with them....do not do so much shuffling ...thank you....that's all... :)
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 07/26/2010 2:17 PM

    Mo Williams ONLY if Varejao comes along. Mo is not better than Andre but he's much younger and can actually shoot from behind the foul line. The player I have coveted though for a long time is Monta Ellis. Talk about a dynamic back court. He'd be able to take pressure off of our bigs and teams wouldn't dare trap Roy either. I think we could get him on the cheap as well, because it sounds like Golden State wants to move in another direction.
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  1. abarrer3
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    Posted 07/26/2010 2:21 PM

    Mo Williams but i think JJ Hickson should be in that deal as well. I'd rather have Hickson than Varejao
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  1. ***Jason***
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    Posted 07/26/2010 2:40 PM

    I'm sort of leaning toward Collison on that list. Two thumbs down for Monte. He talked too much crap about BRoy. I'd love to get Stephan Curry too. Both of those guys are already really good  - and still getting better I would assume.
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  1. Prophet21
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    Posted 07/26/2010 3:06 PM

    How about ship out Dre and Bayless (though I do like his intensity), get Parker and keep Patty Mills and Armon Johnson? Parker, if he doesn't stay more than one year, could teach Mills and Johnson.. Dre could too but Parker is quick like Mills and Johnson.
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  1. Kropf
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    Posted 07/26/2010 3:17 PM

    while i agree andre isnt the answer, i dont think tony parker is either, but parker could possibly be one of the cheaper to get and he can teach patty and armon, tho i dont really want to see us put time into developing more point guards.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 07/26/2010 3:18 PM

    Williams and Johnson have my votes to survive this season of Blazer pg survivor island.
    Wake me in September, the pg trade talk is more excitement than I can stand.
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  1. kenny c.
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    Posted 07/26/2010 3:37 PM

    I like ellis, he can score, he can take over games with his scoring, when roy is doubled he can score, he is paid to much, but he can score, we need to more baskets.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 07/26/2010 3:53 PM

    Personally, I don't believe that the Paul deal is dead.  I believe this is damage control from both sides.  Paul wants to win and that will NOT be happening anytime soon in New Orleans.  Look for CP3 to be somewhere else in February.

    If a plan B, I voted Collison but am curious as to why he is even an option here after my proposition was so soundly shot down in a post a couple of days ago:) LOL.  If not Collison, I like Ellis most of the PGs listed.  Best fits with best outlooks, esp in terms of age, health, and longevity.
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 07/26/2010 4:45 PM

    These trade are going to be hard to make when thing I see is trading Miller/Przybilla/Cunningham/Cash to Cleveland for Williams and Varejao.  I like Williams because he was playing on Lebron's team and still had better numbers than Andre (for some reason Cavs fans want him out of there).  I like the style of basketball Varejoa plays and he'd be a great fit on our team.  Reason's why Cleveland would accept this offer is almost the same reason NO would if we were still after Paul... expiring contracts,  young talent in cunningham and a little cash never hurts.  Since it looks like they're rebuilding down there I could see them possibly taking that trade.
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  1. ***Jason***
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    Posted 07/26/2010 4:47 PM

    you can say that again.
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  1. Crim
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    Posted 07/26/2010 4:48 PM

    Keep Andre, we don't need to trade our B+ guard, who now has a year under his belt with this team, for another B+ guard. Especially if the team wants Batum or Aldridge or Roy or Oden, it would only be worth it to blazer fans to have gone for Paul. Montai and Devin Harris have been team and coach killers, collison only if we can trade for just bayless (at most with Rudy as well), Conley isn't worth the roster spot on this team, and Parker's too much of liability (will he get hurt? Will he stay? Pop would take nothing less than Batum, and that's too rich for a rental).
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  1. Hopman27
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    Posted 07/26/2010 5:55 PM

    I said Devin Harris, but that doesn't mean I'm all for him.  Since I'm bored(lol), here's my view on all the point guards listed. (I don't know all these point guards enough to say smart stuff, so if I sound inaccurate, my bad)
    - Darren Collison- pass (lol, don't know what to say).  But he is young, though.  That's something I'd look for in the PG we need.
    - Mike Conley- I don't think he's that great of a point guard.  I don't even know if he's an upgrade over Miller.  He's just okay.  The chemistry with Oden might help, though.  However, this isn't a 2 on 5 basketball game, and even with the chemistry, it might not help Oden all that much(statistics-wise). Also he's still young.
       -If we're looking for a young, decent point guard, Conley's the one to go to.
    - Monta Ellis- Elite scorer, and would give us a boost offensively.  However, I want someone who is kinda of a pass-first point guard.  Don't think Ellis is that guard.  Also, would he be good enough defensively?
       -if we're looking for a huge upgrade on offense, Ellis is the man.
    - Devin Harris- He seems to be a fine fit, but the fact that he's not all that with 3 point shots kinda makes me think we are just bringing in a younger Andre Miller.
       -if we're looking for a good point guard with experience, we go to Harris.
    - Tony Parker- So yeah, apparently he might not be that good once he gets old.  But he can score, and once we lose our remaining piece of that "Spanish Armada", we can have our own "French.... whatever"  with Parker and Batum.  That'll give the fans something exciting to see.
       -if we're looking for some scoring threat and finals experience, get Parker.
    -Mo Williams- His shooting is valuable, but hearing that his defense is not all that doesn't make me want to get him... but I guess it'd still be nice to get him, though.
       -if we're looking for that PG with the outside shooting, say hello to Williams.

    -Andre Miller-  Even though he's getting old, I believe we can still depend on him during next season.  He doesn't provide that shooting we need(only if we're lucky), but he seems to do everything else well.  He can take it in, he can pass, and he can play good enough defense.  If everyone can stay healthy(I hope), we can advance past 1st round with Miller.  However, that's if we really work hard, try to improve, and have good chemistry. 
    So while I wouldn't mind having Miller as our PG, having an upgrade would help us much more.
       -if we're lazy and/or don't want to upgrade, we still have Miller.


    Well, at least we don't have to worry about losing Batum for Paul.  Nothing wrong with Paul, but I don't want to lose Batum.
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  1. BrianTQuach
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    Posted 07/26/2010 8:55 PM

    I'm cool with trying to get Williams, Harris or Parker, but I just might quit being a Blazer if we get Varejao. He's an okay defender, but I hate the way he flops and whines when he doesn't get calls his way. He's never gonna be a defensive player of the year candidate. Marcus Camby is 36 and better than him, and Dwight Howard and Rajon rondo have always been better defenders.
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  1. Louis
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    Posted 07/26/2010 9:38 PM

    Andre Miller is our guy,  the team needs to let guys know early that they are either in or might be out so they come into training camp with a positive attitude! 

         My thought is to leave this team alone...well, except for Rudy and Bayless....ship them out for a backup guard.  We have a great team people  :)
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  1. rob10s14
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    Posted 07/26/2010 10:05 PM

    rudy and priz for mo williams, salaries work out and we get a point without really giving up anything we need. he isnt number 1 on my list but how could you not do that trade if you are portland
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  1. louisthefrenchy
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    Posted 07/27/2010 1:23 AM

    So definetly Parker!! Hes got the most experience (does 3 rings and a Finals MVP ring a bell??)! He would be a great fit to the team, taking off some scoring pressure for BRoy. He can open up shooters with his drives and the way he attracts the defense. I say lets get Parker and ship Miller and Pryzbilla out.
  1. t bone
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    Posted 07/27/2010 6:19 AM

    Of these options, Collison is the most interesting, but I think I would prefer to keep Andre and see if we can't trade Rudy and maybe the new Bayless wanabees for Mike Conley.  Maybe Conley and Oden are destined to be a package deal for life to be successful.
  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 07/27/2010 9:38 AM

    Posted By DHawes22 on 07/26/2010 1:22 PM
    I can't make up my mind, but I do know that Tony Parker is the lowest of the totem poll for myself. He's an expiring contract, and although players fall in love with Portland, I'm not to sure we could win over Eva Longoria. Also, his game is based on pure speed and quickness, and he hasn't shown the ability to play without it. What happens when he turns 30 and his physical abilities start to wane? Finally, I wouldn't deal Batum for him and I just don't see a package we could offer to entice them enough for it.


    I think a package that included Bayless and Rudy could help. Rudy and Manu playing opposite one another would be pretty impressive. They have a similar game and can both hit the 3 ball. I also have heard rumors of Parker WANTING to come to Portland in the past and to play alongside Batum. I've heard rumors of him basically saying if his name were to come up, that Portland would be choice A. As far as Eva goes, I think that's one of those cases where a man needs to put his foot down in the household, sorry to say it but a man needs to grow a pair from time to time and when it comes to playing where you want to play for the season then you have to do what you have to do. Besides, I'm sure she'd love shopping at Bridgeport Village and Tannasbourne, eating at P.F. Changs, and catching the sunset from the bar at the City Grill. You just have to make sure you taker to the high end shopping areas to bring her in. Dessert at Papa Haydens would be a good idea too.  
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/27/2010 11:20 AM

    Posted By abarrer3 on 07/26/2010 2:21 PM
    Mo Williams but i think JJ Hickson should be in that deal as well. I'd rather have Hickson than Varejao

    No way they deal Hickson. Sadly enough, he's their new franchise player. They value him more than we value Batum. They wouldn't even include him in a deal for Amare at the deadline...
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/27/2010 11:27 AM

    Posted By RipCityRevival on 07/27/2010 9:38 AM
    Posted By DHawes22 on 07/26/2010 1:22 PM
    I can't make up my mind, but I do know that Tony Parker is the lowest of the totem poll for myself. He's an expiring contract, and although players fall in love with Portland, I'm not to sure we could win over Eva Longoria. Also, his game is based on pure speed and quickness, and he hasn't shown the ability to play without it. What happens when he turns 30 and his physical abilities start to wane? Finally, I wouldn't deal Batum for him and I just don't see a package we could offer to entice them enough for it.


    I think a package that included Bayless and Rudy could help. Rudy and Manu playing opposite one another would be pretty impressive. They have a similar game and can both hit the 3 ball. I also have heard rumors of Parker WANTING to come to Portland in the past and to play alongside Batum. I've heard rumors of him basically saying if his name were to come up, that Portland would be choice A. As far as Eva goes, I think that's one of those cases where a man needs to put his foot down in the household, sorry to say it but a man needs to grow a pair from time to time and when it comes to playing where you want to play for the season then you have to do what you have to do. Besides, I'm sure she'd love shopping at Bridgeport Village and Tannasbourne, eating at P.F. Changs, and catching the sunset from the bar at the City Grill. You just have to make sure you taker to the high end shopping areas to bring her in. Dessert at Papa Haydens would be a good idea too.  
    Well if Parker does want to come here, then I'm for it, but only if we get him at a bargain. I don't want Oden, GO, Batum, or Roy in any package for him. Its unrealistic, but there's no point in dealing for Parker if he can have the French connection with Nico!
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  1. Andy Blacksmith
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    Posted 07/27/2010 11:43 AM

    Keep Miller for a little bit. He is way too smart to let go. What we need is a back up point guard. Our starter isn't the problem. Bayless isn't ready for the playoffs yet. In the past, we had Steve Blake. He could pass the ball, but at times seemed like he couldn't do anything other than that and shooting threes. We need somebody with good mid range game who can take it to the hoop and pass the ball.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 07/27/2010 1:54 PM

    Posted By ***Jason*** on 07/26/2010 2:40 PM
    I'm sort of leaning toward Collison on that list. Two thumbs down for Monte. He talked too much crap about BRoy. I'd love to get Stephan Curry too. Both of those guys are already really good  - and still getting better I would assume.

    Steph Curry is not on the block. He's cheap (rookie contract), excites their fans, and is their building block. It'd take a Dwight Howard type of player for them to budge on Curry. Although I wish we had traded Rudy last year and moved up to pick  him, because he is the next Terry Porter in my opinion. Damn, we missed the boat on that one, but so did countless other teams...
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 07/27/2010 6:45 PM

    Steph Curry would be awesome, and he'll be a great player in the NBA soon enough.

    But it looks like our starting line up come October is Dre, Brandon, Frenchie, LaMarshmallow and G.O. I'm cool with that as long as we stay healthy. December 15 we'll continue this  discussion...that is unless something else happens between now and then.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 07/27/2010 8:40 PM

    No Mo!  Please.  I would much rather see Parker and his suspect ankles here.  So much of Mo's performance last season parallels Rudy's.  Good, maybe even great 3 pt shooter but streaky from everywhere inside the arch and then the disappearing performance in the playoffs.  A distraction for the rest of his team and, by many accounts, a player with character issues.  IMO, not a championship caliber point guard.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 07/27/2010 8:56 PM

    Posted By abarrer3 on 07/26/2010 2:21 PM
    Mo Williams but i think JJ Hickson should be in that deal as well. I'd rather have Hickson than Varejao
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  1. OSU''s Josh
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    Posted 07/27/2010 10:54 PM

    Armon Johnson is a lockdown defender, has good size, can post up/get to the hoop and finish, and is a very good passer.  As soon as the nba coaches help him improve his jumpshot a little bit more and he gains some nba experience, he will be our point guard of the future, just you wait.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 07/28/2010 1:20 PM

    While I have high hopes for Armon, I don't want to hand over the reigns to him any time soon. I actually think he has great backup potential like a Blake or Greg Anthony; a valued role player. After thinking about it, if we could get Darren Collison cheaper than expected, he'd be high on my list. A great defender who can knock down the open jump shot would be very desirable.
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  1. ***Jason***
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    Posted 07/28/2010 4:36 PM

    I know, but he is a stud. :) That guy is going to be a serious player.
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  1. jeff w
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    Posted 07/28/2010 9:58 PM

    Keep miller. Does any body remember how many times he saved our butts last year? he scored 50 something points in one game. he might not be the best gaurd out ther, but he might be the smartest.
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 07/28/2010 10:34 PM

    Either we need to trade into the lottery or trade Miller.  I say this because it's good possibility Miller retires in two years, and even if he doesn't he won't be able to compete at a high level.  Who's gonna be our point then?  Bayless?  We won't be a contender with a point guard like that.  Armon I think is our backup for the future, but he's not going to be a starter.  So if we let him walk off without getting anything for him it'll make it much more harder to win a championship.  With Rudy and Bayless, plus Paul Allen's money and our picks we get in the future, I think we could definitly trade into the lottery and even the top ten.  Then we could get a point guard that could start right away and be a big part of our future.  The other way we could get a point guard that puts us in serious contention is through free agency, but we're in the luxery tax and with extensions to Batum and Oden, we're not going to get the money to sign a legit point.  You look at the top four teams last year.  The Celtics have Rondo, Lakers have Fisher, Magic have Nelson, and the Suns have Nash.  We're going to compete with old Andre Miller or Jerryd Bayless?  Probably not, being the only way we can get a good point is through a trade, I expect some big moves in the future.  Not nesscarily in the next 24 hours like Quick says, but definitly the next 24 months.
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 07/28/2010 10:34 PM

    Either we need to trade into the lottery or trade Miller.  I say this because it's good possibility Miller retires in two years, and even if he doesn't he won't be able to compete at a high level.  Who's gonna be our point then?  Bayless?  We won't be a contender with a point guard like that.  Armon I think is our backup for the future, but he's not going to be a starter.  So if we let him walk off without getting anything for him it'll make it much more harder to win a championship.  With Rudy and Bayless, plus Paul Allen's money and our picks we get in the future, I think we could definitly trade into the lottery and even the top ten.  Then we could get a point guard that could start right away and be a big part of our future.  The other way we could get a point guard that puts us in serious contention is through free agency, but we're in the luxery tax and with extensions to Batum and Oden, we're not going to get the money to sign a legit point.  You look at the top four teams last year.  The Celtics have Rondo, Lakers have Fisher, Magic have Nelson, and the Suns have Nash.  We're going to compete with old Andre Miller or Jerryd Bayless?  Probably not, being the only way we can get a good point is through a trade, I expect some big moves in the future.  Not nesscarily in the next 24 hours like Quick says, but definitly the next 24 months.
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 07/29/2010 2:37 PM

    andre is a liability to this team. idc if he scored 800 points. if he is to stay on this team he should be primaraly a back up pg not the starter. he does not stretch the court what so ever teams all know he is no threat from the 3 point nor the mid range... he does not compliment b.roy in anyway shape, form or fashion. i rather have patty mills if it came down to it start at the point over andre. the only reason why he is even here is because he was our last option when there was nobody left to sign... think about it.
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 07/29/2010 2:37 PM

    andre is a liability to this team. idc if he scored 800 points. if he is to stay on this team he should be primaraly a back up pg not the starter. he does not stretch the court what so ever teams all know he is no threat from the 3 point nor the mid range... he does not compliment b.roy in anyway shape, form or fashion. i rather have patty mills if it came down to it start at the point over andre. the only reason why he is even here is because he was our last option when there was nobody left to sign... think about it.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 07/29/2010 4:04 PM

    I still think CP3 will be their target until they just can't wait any longer to move on to other possible moves.
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  1. Kim~
    Kim~
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    Posted 07/29/2010 4:12 PM

    I still want to see Elliott Williams before I would agree to any of the above.  I also disagree with Chad whatever he calls himself on 95.5.  Ew is not a left handed Rex.  He is taller with a much better wingspan.
    He is the same as Rex as far as intensity though. Training camp should be interesting.
    I am a fan of scrapping !
  1. DHawes22
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    Posts: 6488

    Posted 07/29/2010 5:27 PM

    You should put yourself in timeout for listening to CIP!
    J/k, but really, the world would be a better place without him on the airwaves. He really got on my bad side after comments he made about euthanizing dogs last summer. I was completely blown away at how he was still able to keep his job.

    Back on topic...
    Elliot is still a shooting guard in my eyes, so I still think we either need to commit to Bayless as the PGOTF(Point Guard of the Future) or get someone now while we have the assets.
    I am a fan of
  1. FamousRoy
    FamousRoy
    Posts: 144

    Posted 07/29/2010 7:11 PM

    If it's not Chris Paul, it has to be Andre.  He's phenomenal in every regard (except shooting).  If Nate tells him to limit how many jumpers he shoots every game (if you can call them jumpers), and dish to Brandon a little more, the Blazers have nothing to worry about at the point guard position.  Andre's great.  It's not worth trading valuable players to pick up another point guard like Devin Harris.  Plus, Harris and Parker would have to paid A LOT!
    I am a fan of Defending the Rose Garden against the Lakers!
  1. Kim~
    Kim~
    Posts: 1137

    Posted 07/29/2010 7:44 PM

    EW is a combo guard. I'm still a HUGE believer that the Blazers dont have to  label the pg position. What is really most important to me, is how they play with Roy, and on the defensive end. 

    Dre is not a phenomenal fit with Roy. We all saw that last season.  But he doesnt have to be, as long as the back up has strengths were he has weakness, and the other way around.

    I wish we could pull up the last 5 years of discussions by Blazer fans about the " point guard of the future "
    Every year it would be the same, except you would have to insert the newest name.




     

    I am a fan of scrapping !
  1. xvillainx_1
    xvillainx_1
    Posts: 38

    Posted 07/30/2010 12:13 AM

    Not a big Greg Oden Fan....But i think if we were to get conley...It would help greg out a lot...
    I am a fan of Brandon Roy
  1. Blazers4Life247
    Blazers4Life247
    Posts: 250

    Posted 07/30/2010 4:23 AM

    not a fan of conley. this league does not consist of teams trading to get former buddies from college. if memphis doesn't have high hopes for him then what does that really say about him? conley is no more than a back up pg. we need someone who is a threat on the perimeter and also knows how to penetrate the middle then kicks it out to the open man with his superior passing and sorry i don't think conley is that guy. he has potential only because he is young, but do we really want a player who we have to train, sit, and wait to develop? i don't think so. but whatever the case i'm more than sure Cho will do whatever it takes to bring in the right man... so hopefully we'll all find out soon. i have a feeling the organization has something up their sleeve ;]
    I am a fan of ;]
  1. brabbit2669
    brabbit2669
    Posts: 4

    Posted 07/30/2010 12:01 PM

    i agree with tony parker portland would be hard to stop and with parker's ability to score we would win more games this year than just 50 so im all in for parker coming to portland and as for chris paul i don't think he want's to even win and for him going back to a team like new orleans is just funny because they never even make it to the playoffs lol unless somehow they can prove the nba wrong but as for paul he needs to make a better decision if he wants to be on a winning team.
    I am a fan of of my portland trail blazers win or lose
  1. DHawes22
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    Posts: 6488

    Posted 07/30/2010 12:18 PM

    Posted By FamousRoy on 07/29/2010 7:11 PM
    If it's not Chris Paul, it has to be Andre.  He's phenomenal in every regard (except shooting).  If Nate tells him to limit how many jumpers he shoots every game (if you can call them jumpers), and dish to Brandon a little more, the Blazers have nothing to worry about at the point guard position.  Andre's great.  It's not worth trading valuable players to pick up another point guard like Devin Harris.  Plus, Harris and Parker would have to paid A LOT!

    Unless we start to run a little less iso offense, then Dre is going to be shooting jumpers. You can't really blame Dre though, because what is he supposed to do when a teammate passes him the ball with 3 left on the shot clock? He has to shot it.
    I am a fan of
  1. BDawg
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    Posts: 1593

    Posted 07/30/2010 5:14 PM

    Posted By Kim on 07/29/2010 4:12 PM
    I still want to see Elliott Williams before I would agree to any of the above.  I also disagree with Chad whatever he calls himself on 95.5.  Ew is not a left handed Rex.  He is taller with a much better wingspan.
    He is the same as Rex as far as intensity though. Training camp should be interesting.
    As much as I agree with you in wanting to see Williams play, I don't think Paul Allen and co are ready to hand over the reigns to an unproven rookie for a championship run.  Additionally, Williams getting playing time will come at the expense of Bayless.  One of the two has to go, and rumors have Bayless on the table.  Miller will go.  I also agree with you in your distaste for Chad Doing (CIP) in the mornings.  His airway persona is unnecessarily abrasive.  I'm sure that is by design, however, as it makes for great radio and has us talking about him RIGHT NOW:)

    I am a fan of players that play with PASSION and PRIDE
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