NBA Finals: Celtics vs Lakers, Who's Winning It All?
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 05/30/2010 10:49 AM

    Who will become the 2010 NBA Champions
    Celtics (10)
     67%
    Lakers (5)
     33%

    VS.


    In a re-match of the 2008 NBA Finals, familiar foes are back at it again this June. The Lakers have been a lock to return back to the Finals since the season started, but Boston is the only team to reach a Finals by having a better road record than a home record, so does home court advantage even matter? For the first time this postseason, the Lakers do not have a size advantage down low. Boston is peaking at the right time, but will Paul Pierce be able to match Kobe bucket for bucket when need be? So who wins it all? Will the Lakers repeat or will Boston take it for the 2nd time in 3 years?

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    January 31, 2010:   TD Banknorth Garden   Boston 89 Los Angeles 90
    February 18, 2010:  Staples Center            Boston 87 Los Angeles 86
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 05/30/2010 11:50 AM

    I'm going with the Celtics. KG, Perkins, Sheed, and Davis will bully around Gasol, Odom and Bynum down low. That is where the series will be won. Fisher also won't be able to handle Rondo either. Celtics in 7.
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  1. kenny c.
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    Posted 05/30/2010 2:49 PM

    Lakers in 6!!!! Artest should be able to shut down peirce, if he doesn't shut him down he will limit him. Gasol will out play garnet. If Kobe stays within himself he will not be denied twice by boston. If boston gets into his pride and head and makes him play one on one, Boston might have a chance. I don't think this will happen this year. Kobe seems to focused and to mature to let this happen this year. He learns from his mistakes and he gets better. he will study film from what they did last go and re-tool his game and his teams offensive sets. Boston has surprised me, but here I think their road ends. I will say you have a point about down low being the whole bag of candy, but I still think the edge will go to gasol and his footwork. bynum if he can play some good minutes will help, but odom must step up in this series with his speed and ability to drive so bostons defense doesn't get set. I put more faith in gasol than howard against Boston since he is better in the post (not stronger but his skills are more developed). If he doesn't shrink from the constant beating he will take the Lakers will win. But we all know it comes down to Kobe and as the best player on the planet Boston won't be able to contain him. Allen is streaky these days and rondo is a worry, but again I think Phil Jackson can't lose two times to the same team. lakers in 6!!!!!
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 05/30/2010 9:42 PM

    2 very good defenses. 2 productive offenses that play at similar tempos. This is going to be a series.
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  1. BR7_Fan
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    Posted 05/31/2010 10:42 AM

    Should be a great series, and another chapter in the Lakers/Celtics story. I think Boston has a slight edge seeing no one on this planet can contain Rondo LA is going to have to find a way to make him less effective the same goes for Kobe. The role players and bench for each team are going to have to step up and produce and contribute something consistently.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 05/31/2010 11:28 AM

    Comes down to KG vs Gasol. If KG can make Pau play defense and get him into early foul trouble, the Lakers will falter. KG also must continue to play excellent man defense on Gasol, so his teammates don't have to worry about sending the double team.
    Celtics win.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 06/01/2010 10:48 AM

    What Celtics need to do is what they did last time they faced the Lakers for a championship. Make Kobe work. He can get his 30 points but make him take 25+ shots to get it. They didn't do this very well in the past 2 season, but as the Celtics have shown all of us what you do in the season doesn't matter come playoff time.

    What Lakers need to do to repeat is winning the points in the paint battle by a fairly large margin (10+ points) and playing GREAT transition defense. This is the most effective way of slowing down Rondo. He's EXTREMELY effective in transition and also a terror when allowed to get in the paint, or leading someone to go into the paint.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/01/2010 2:44 PM

    Celtics in 7.
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  1. kenny c.
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    Posted 06/02/2010 4:08 AM

    I know this is a anti Laker city but come on, 70% of you think the celtics are going to win against kobe and gasol- the two best players at their position in the league right now? What do the celtics really have going for them? CONFIDENCE, RONDO, AND A MEAN BIG NASTY DEFENSE!!!!! These things would cause them to beat any OTHER team without A kobe and Gasol. Celtics can't match points with the lakers this year. I think every position favors the Lakers except the point, and even this, I think phil will come up with a solid plan to counter rondo.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/03/2010 2:33 PM

    Check out this article from Dime: "Celtics Find Burried Treasure In Lakers Locker Room-
     Doc Rivers has always been known for his tremendous motivational abilities. Before the 2007 season, Rivers invited Paul Pierce, Kevin Garnett and Ray Allen on a private Duck Boat Tour on Boston to show them the route they would take through the streets as champions nearly a year later. When they departed for the preseason in Europe, Rivers stressed the African phrase “Ubuntu,” a term for unity that would eventually become the team’s motto. And according to Mark Murphy of the Boston Herald, Rivers found a much simpler way to keep his team motivated to play through the late stages of the season: a cash refund.

    Back on Feb. 18, after beating the Lakers by a point at the Staples Center, Doc Rivers asked everyone in the Celtics party – players, coaches, trainers, administrators – to each give him $100.

    The Celtics coach promptly stuffed the money in an envelope.

    “If we want to get this money back, we’ll have to come back here in June,” said Rivers, ever the master of creating a motivational moment.

    Rivers then hid the envelope, which contained approximately $2,500, in an undisclosed nook in the arena’s shoebox-like visitors locker room.

    Most probably forgot about that moment when they filed back into the locker room prior to yesterday’s practice, their final lengthy tuneup before tonight’s NBA Finals opener against the Lakers.

    Rivers reached into that old nook and, surprise of surprises, pulled out the envelope, still stuffed with the $2,500 in cash.

    If all goes according to plan, each Celtic will receive much more than just $100 when the series is over. With his team shooting for their second championship in three years, Rivers has his work cut out for him if his latest motivational tactic will prove successful.

    Hard to believe the money was able to stay hidden for so many months. You would have thought a visiting team or locker room attendant would have stumbled upon it somehow.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 06/04/2010 1:48 PM

    LA looked tough last night and we all know how Phil Jackson is 40342-0 when he wins Game 1 of a 7 Game series. I'd be highly surprised if the Celtics were able to win this series. All 3 of their home games are at home and in a row, which puts them at a severe disadvantage, b/c it's dang near impossible to beat a Finals caliber team 3 straight times. I hope Boston can steal Game 2 to at least make this a watchable series.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/04/2010 3:11 PM

    I have to agree. I just hate to see the Lakers win.   Kobe is just too much, the man was bred to play basketball, if he is in  Rondos shorts ,  its all up hill for the Celtics.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/04/2010 4:09 PM

    I can't believe the Lakers are about to win another ring, it just makes me sick to my stomach. They were headed for disaster and Kobe wanted out, but those damn Grizzlies had to offer Gasol for nothing. Sometimes I can't grasp how lucky that franchise is
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  1. mario250775
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    Posted 06/05/2010 11:52 AM

    Celtics win in 7 or 6 . Beat L.A. ! it will be very hard to beat Phil Jackson and Koby team but Boston did it one time and do it now ! 
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 06/07/2010 2:53 PM

    Still don't think Boston will win, because of the 2-3-3 Finals Format, but at least they made it a series again. I feel like Boston needs to win at LEAST 2 of 3 at home to make it an interesting series. Up 3-2 going back to LA for games 6 and 7 would be entertaining.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/08/2010 9:50 AM

    Game 3 should be entertaining tonight. A lot of numbers, data, and statistics have been thrown out about tonight's game.
    Here is the Daily Dime's Top Things You Should Know For Game 3-

     

    •  In the 2-3-2 series format (since 1985), when the NBA Finals is tied 1-1, the winner of Game 3 has gone on to win the series on all 10 occasions.

    •  How important is Game 3 of the NBA Finals? In NBA Finals history, the series has been tied 1-1 on 32 occasions. The Game 3 winner has gone on to win 28 of those 32 series (87.5 percent).

    •  On the defensive end, Boston's magic number to win is 95. The Celtics are 12-0 when allowing 95 or fewer points this postseason. Boston is 1-6 when allowing 96 points or more.

    •  Many people thought Game 1 of the NBA Finals was a fairly ugly game after a combined 54 fouls were called on the two teams. In Game 2, there were even more fouls called. Referees called a combined 58 fouls in Game 2. There have been 112 fouls called in the first two games of the NBA Finals, the most in the first two games of the NBA Finals since 1996 NBA Finals (113 fouls -- 56 in Game 1, 57 in Game 2.)

    •  Remember that the Celtics were 3-0 at home against the Lakers in the 2008 NBA Finals, including the 39-point clincher in Game 6. Boston's averaging margin of victory in those three games was 18.3 points. Games 3, 4 and 5 will be played in Boston.

    •  The Lakers were just 23-18 on the road in the regular season, which was tied for third-best in the Western Conference and tied for sixth in the NBA. Los Angeles is 4-4 on the road in the postseason.

    •  The Lakers scored 94 points in Game 2's loss to the Celtics. It was the first time that the Lakers had failed to score at least 100 points in 11 straight games. Los Angeles had scored at least 100 points in every game since Game 1 of the conference semifinals against the Jazz and were 9-2 during that 11-game streak.

    •  In Game 2, the Lakers had 14 blocked shots, setting a NBA Finals record. Andrew Bynum had seven blocks and Pau Gasol had six as they became the first teammates in Finals history to each have five or more blocks in a game.

    •  In this series, Kobe Bryant is a combined 1-6 FG (four total points) in 54 possessions when guarded by Tony Allen or Rajon Rondo. Bryant had 42 touches in those 54 possessions. In 16 possessions when defended by Rondo in this series, Bryant has 14 touches but has not attempted a shot and scored zero points.

    •  Bynum had 21 points in Game 2 of the NBA Finals, which tied his postseason career high. He also had 21 points in Game 5 against the Oklahoma City Thunder in the first round. Bynum had seven blocks in the conference finals (six games) against the Suns. Bynum had six blocks in Game 2 against the Celtics in the NBA Finals.

    •  The Celtics had zero second-chance points in their Game 1 loss to the Lakers. In Game 2, Boston had 13 second-chance points.

    • Ray Allen made an NBA Finals-record eight three-pointers in Game 2. Seven of those were of the catch-and-shoot variety, meaning no dribbles once he caught the ball.

    •  To put a little perspective on how phenomenal Allen's accomplishment was, our friends at Accuscore.com simulated the game 10,000 times: Allen hit seven consecutive three-pointers 11 times in 10,000 simulations, or 0.11 percent of the time. Allen hit seven in a row in the first half in just two of 10,000 simulations.

    •  Rondo had a triple-double for the Celtics in Game 2. It was the first triple-double in the Finals for a Boston player since Larry Bird had one in Game 6 in the 1986 NBA Finals. The last player to have a triple-double in the NBA Finals was Tim Duncan for the Spurs in 2003 (Game 6).

    •  Rondo is the barometer for the Celtics. In the 2010 postseason, when Rondo's plus/minus is +2 or better, Boston is 13-0. When it is +1, even or negative, Boston is 0-6.

    CONTINUE READING>>>
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 06/08/2010 10:57 AM

    If Boston wins tonight what streak gets broken..Phil Jackson's 43-0 after winning Game 1 of a 7 Game series or Boston being the first team to lose a Finals after winning a Game 3 when it was previously tied at one a piece?
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  1. bearprecioso
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    Posted 06/08/2010 6:37 PM

    Amazing statistics........hmmmmmm
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/09/2010 12:00 PM

    Well, just when I thought Boston had a chance, they went out and put out that performance. It's almost a guaranteed title for the Lakers. They have history and home court advantage on their side now. Boston MUST win these next two games if they have any hope of a championship this year.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/10/2010 2:30 PM

    Looks like Bynum may not be able to play tonight, or for the rest of the year for that matter if the pain continues-

    Lakers center Andrew Bynum insisted on Wednesday that he would play through pain in his knee in Game 4, but things appear to have taken a turn for the worse on Thursday.

    When asked whether Bynum would play in Game 4, Lakers coach Phil Jackson said, "I'm not positive about that," according to Mike Bresnahan of the Los Angeles Times.

    Bynum came out of Game 3 on Tuesday night when his knee locked up in the third quarter.


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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/15/2010 8:18 PM

    Dangit, LA is dominating right now and the series is now going 7 games. I've got a bad feeling about this for Boston. It's nearly impossible to win a Game 7 on the road. Also, Perkins going down with an injury only will make the climb up the mountain that much more difficult.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/16/2010 8:34 AM

    Perkins will play game seven, he was only asked to let the Lakers win game 6 :)
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  1. shuttlesworth
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    Posted 06/16/2010 2:56 PM

    damned...according to nba.com and coach rivers, perkins is not playing game 7. i will not say that it is impossible to win without perkins, but its definetly more harder to win without this big man. nevertheless i hope rondo will lead his team all the way and guys like robinson, davis and sheed can put on some numbers to the scoreboard besides the big three, as a result: boston is going to win tomorrow!!! beat la
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 06/16/2010 4:11 PM

    Perkins has a torn MCL + PCL..he's OUT for Game 7. There's no way the Lakers are losing a Game 7 at home, no way. Add to the fact Perkins, who gives Pau Gasol fits is out, stacks the deck even more in LA's favor. I don't know if I'll be able to stomach another Laker title.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/18/2010 11:00 AM

    Phil's streak of winning game 1 and the streak of winning Game 3 after being tied at 1 in the Finals unfortunately held up. Its always a sad day when the Lakers win. I really don't want to give them any credit, because that team was handed to them on a silver platter. I am still bitter over the Gasol trade. Without Gasol, they are nothing but a 1st round team. I don't see them 3-peating next year though. Kobe looks less than stellar (weak Game 7 performance shooting wise) and he really only had one breakout game in the Finals, Fisher is nearing 37 and Bynum can't stay healthy.
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