Jerryd Bayless is the Point Guard of the future
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 04/26/2010 1:29 PM

    I know a lot of people have been down on him recently, but since getting more than 15 minutes a night, he's been able to get into a rhythm and has been one of the more consistent Blazer performers to date in these playoffs. A stat that jumped out to me was this: Jerryd Bayless is 7th in the league this postseason with a 3.25 (13:4) assist-to-turnover ratio. 6 assists, 0 turnovers in Game 4. (Thanks to AGDuck on Twitter for the knowledge)

    In 4 games so far he is averaging 13 points, 3.3 assists, only 1 turnover, 2 rebounds, and shooting 46.2% from the field.
    Playoff Stats

    The key for Bayless is minutes. When he knows he is going to play 15-20 a night, he loosens up and takes his game to another level as was the case in Dec/Jan when everyone was out (29 against PHX, 31 against DAL) Miller is good for another 2-3 seasons, so we should continue to groom Bayless and use him as part of our 3 guard rotation along with Miller and Brandon.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 04/26/2010 1:34 PM

    I have no problems letting him backup Dre for a couple more seasons. At the worst, he'll turn into a Jason Terry/Jamal Crawford type scorer off the bench, then we can use other assets around us to obtain a young PG once Andre gracefully bows out later on down the road. I love his passion for the game and energy. His high motor is a great balance to Roy and Aldridge's calm demeanor.
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  1. blazer003
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    Posted 04/26/2010 2:44 PM

    I still have questions. I do agree that he can be a Jason Terry type, and he has shown that his passing is getting better, but I just don't know if he'll ever be a distributer and good outside shooter that we need.  I think that while Andre and Roy have learned to play together pretty well, we can all agree that's not the ideal situation.  The ideal is to have a shooter at point guard that can nail the 3pt shot and can dish the rock around, but also have the athleticism to get to the hoop and make things happen.

    Steve Blake had some of that, but he lacked the drive and dish capability (or rarely showed it).  Bayless is the opposite.  He can drive very well, and sometimes dishes, but his outside shot is very unreliable.

    If we were able to roll Steve Blake and Jerryd Bayless into one player, you'd have Chris Paul.

    If you asked me right now, is Jerryd the PG of the future, I'd still say no, but he's getting better.  I hope he proves me wrong.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 04/26/2010 2:48 PM

    Everyone who says he is " not a true pg "  sounds like Charlie Browns teacher to me now ....
    Imo, with Roy in the back court, the Blazers don't need a " true pg" to succeed.  Until this season Roy led the team in assists. 
    I like Bayless off the bench as long as Dre is here. He's a spark plug.
    In the future, I see a Roy/Miller hybrid combo guard developing with Bayless. 
     If he learns from Nate, he can be a lock down defender too.
    A back court of Roy and Bayless could be deadly, with both of their ability to score and set up their teammates.  To me, it isn't a black or white decision, there could be a really great area of gray that Blazer fans haven't seen yet. We'll see what happens over the next year.

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  1. BR7_Fan
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    Posted 04/26/2010 3:58 PM

    Bayless is a scorer first, thats what he did in college, thats the Bayless I remember seeing. I will say that he has some point guard skills, but  SG is his spot. His shooting has gotten better, his fouls and wild drives to the hole is something that concerns me but he has team mates he can learn from to handle that better. The question is: is his PG skills enough to run that second unit? The kind of ball Nate runs, I see it needing two solid true PGs to be effective. (the Dre/Blake combo I thought would be really great) He could turn into a Andre-lite, with more offense or I totally see him turning into the solid 6th man type. Jason Terry style.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 04/26/2010 5:09 PM

    Like everyone has been saying, he could either be like a Jason Terry type player or Derrick Rose type player. He improved a great deal this season compared to last, so let's see what he does next season.
    I am a fan of B-Roy and LaMonster!
  1. rmontee6175
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    Posted 04/26/2010 5:35 PM

    I think that the biggest key to Bayless success is experience. He is still at the point where he wears his emotions on his shoulders. Once he is able to take that emotion and put it to good use, he will become one of the top PG's in the NBA. Bayless has skills that can not be taught. As those skills get honed, the biggest benefit will be to our team. If we are to look at next year, if Bayless works hard this summer, he will enter camp unstoppable. He will become a very good PG. The only issue I can see and hopefully it will never be a problem is if, as he improves, his minutes do not drastically increase, he will start getting unhappy. Unfortunately, it seems to be a trend in the NBA. I don't think Nate will let it become an issue but it is something to keep in mind anyway. Either way, I think next season is going to be AMAZING...
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  1. Posted 04/26/2010 5:46 PM

    JERRYD BAYLESS IS AMAZING AND I WANT TO GO TO HIS B-BALL CAMP!!!!! LET IT ROCK LET IT ROCK LET IT ROCK. GO JBAY AND LA
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 04/27/2010 2:10 PM

    Posted By Kim on 04/26/2010 2:48 PM
    Everyone who says he is " not a true pg "  sounds like Charlie Browns teacher to me now ....
    Imo, with Roy in the back court, the Blazers don't need a " true pg" to succeed.  Until this season Roy led the team in assists. 
    I like Bayless off the bench as long as Dre is here. He's a spark plug.
    In the future, I see a Roy/Miller hybrid combo guard developing with Bayless. 
     If he learns from Nate, he can be a lock down defender too.
    A back court of Roy and Bayless could be deadly, with both of their ability to score and set up their teammates.  To me, it isn't a black or white decision, there could be a really great area of gray that Blazer fans haven't seen yet. We'll see what happens over the next year.

    Go Blazers !!!

    KIM FTW!
    Roy handles the ball a lot and needs someone who is able to score alongside of him and JB does just that. He even looked like a legit pg with some of his passes made last game, just give him time and remember this is essentially his rookie season and 1st playoffs. 13.8 ppg, 3.4 apg, 2.4 rpg and only 1 turnover a night are amazing numbers for a player who's seen his minutes go up and down like a roller coaster this season. Also, he was one of the only players last night showing some fight. He's a keeper!
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  1. GuitarJ111
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    Posted 04/27/2010 3:23 PM

    Ill admit that I have had my doubts about wild Bayless... however, he sure is proving that he is maturing and learning how to control himself better.  He has been pretty amazing in the playoffs compared to what we have seen from him most of the season.  Ive always loved his spark of energy and always giving 110% out there.  Not one to just stand around.  Its good to see him not turnover the ball and actually creating plays for others on the team.  I see a bright future for him here (hoping we keep him) playing with dre and roy :)  

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  1. daddylogan
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    Posted 04/27/2010 3:49 PM

    I am not sold yet on this. A spark, yes he is and being that he is so young is also good because he can still learn alot. The one thing that I think he needs to do with his game is to learn how to see the court better, and when he drives to the hoop, to have a plan...know where your teammates are so if he needs to distribute the ball he can. There has been to many times he drives into the timber with nowhere to go and it leads to turnovers, block shots or bad circus shots at the hoop. The refs won't give him the calls neither because that is what you get when you try to thread through the trees!!! LOL Also he needs to not be so predictable when he is planning on going one on one. I can tell almost every time and I am sure you guys can too. He doesn't scan the court with his head or eyes as to throw off the oppenent...it is just a head down and try to get in rhythm to take a jumper.

    However I will say he has surprised me in the playoffs and has put Rudy to shame which I thought would never happen. I really thought Rudy would step up and make some offence happen and he didn't except for the 4th quarter of a game already spoken for by the Suns. Overall, I think Bayless will grow as a player and I agree now that it would be good to keep him around for a bit.

    Go Blazers...let's win at the crib!

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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 04/29/2010 5:09 PM

    I think if Bayless had been drafted higher and into a situation where playing time was more plentiful and didn't have to worry about making mistakes, we'd see him make similar strides to that of a Darren Collison, Russell Westrbook, Eric Gordon, etc. In Jerryd's case, I would just be patient with him. He's one of those guys who plays with a chip on his shoulder and I fear if we ever dealt him, he haunt us to no end whenever we matched up wit him.
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  1. 7BrandonRoy7
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    Posted 04/30/2010 7:50 AM

    Bayless looked completely out of control for most of the game last night. He is not nearly as good as he seems to think he is and he made some very stupid decisions last night. Had he passed the ball to his teammates a little more the game might have had a different outcome. He really needs to learn that he is not invincible and he is not always going to get the call when he drives to the hoop in a one on three situation and turns the ball over. Maybe the Clippers would be willing to take Bayless and give Steve Blake back to us.
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  1. whack
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    Posted 04/30/2010 10:46 AM

    Jerryd Bayless can be your future.  Only problem is that with Nate as coach, he'll be underutilized.  Nate stinks as a coach bc he likes to walk the ball up and play big guy vs big guy.  But all your slow big guys are lazy, fat, clumsy, and injured most of the time.  Trade him and Patty Mills to some team that will run and gun and leave the Blazers with their slow Bobcat style, that hope the other team don't score more than 78 points to win.  Talentless, awkward shooting Andre Miller is perfect for you bunch of losers.
  1. Kim~
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    Posted 04/30/2010 10:50 AM

    Hey frog,
    FTW ??
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  1. GuitarJ111
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    Posted 04/30/2010 12:52 PM

    Kim~ I think FTW means "for the win"
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 04/30/2010 12:55 PM

    Thanks to both of you !
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