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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 02/24/2013 12:57 PM

    Nobody answered my question before.. But can a cap hold go over the cap? Is there a penalty? And then I'm wondering since we have Maynor and I believe his cap hold is 3 mil... can we maintain two cap holds if it means going over the cap?

    And I don't understand mid-level exceptions and veteran exceptions and all that jargon.. I wish there was a way to tag you BF but I feel like this is up your ally lol. Anyways, just figured I'd see if anyone can inform me, rather than me attempting to individually google each thing and then have to sift through everything.
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 02/24/2013 12:59 PM

    Basically I know very, very little about the NBA cap. Ask me about the NFL and I could answer you quickly... cuz it's much, much simpler lol
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 02/24/2013 1:39 PM

    http://www.thebestsportsblog.com/nba-salary-cap.html  maybe this will help knorton
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 02/25/2013 3:03 PM

    Yes cap holds can go over the cap if they exist then you lose your cap room until resigning the player, trading them or renouncing them. 

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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 02/25/2013 9:58 PM

    Hey Knorton !!

    This is everything you need to know about everything.

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 02/26/2013 2:17 AM

    Posted By knorton181 on 02/24/2013 12:57 PM
    Nobody answered my question before.. But can a cap hold go over the cap? Is there a penalty? And then I'm wondering since we have Maynor and I believe his cap hold is 3 mil... can we maintain two cap holds if it means going over the cap?

    And I don't understand mid-level exceptions and veteran exceptions and all that jargon.. I wish there was a way to tag you BF but I feel like this is up your ally lol. Anyways, just figured I'd see if anyone can inform me, rather than me attempting to individually google each thing and then have to sift through everything.


    I believed we signed Maynor because of the trade exception we recieve from NY in the Felton trade.  If Maynor's cap hold were to leave Portland over the cap, they can still pick up his QO, they just won't have any money left over to sign new free agents without using an exception (i.e. the player minimum salary or mid-level exception).  However, the Blazers will have around $13.5 mil or more if they don't pick up Hickson's QO.  So they will be under the cap, and as a result, picking up Maynor's QO would simply leave Portland with around $10 mil in available cap.  Should they pick up both Hickson's and Maynor's QO, Portland will have around $3 mil in cap room to sign free agents.

     

    Portland will be under the cap.  The exceptions they may use to sign players over the cap will be the Room exception ($2.6 mil), minimum player salary exception (can sign any vet for the player minimum of around 1 mil over the cap), sign any rookies they draft over the cap, and to sign either JJ or Maynor over their cap hold.  For example, if JJ's QO is $7.6 mil, but they sign him for $8 mil, Portland could go $400,000 over the cap to sign him.

     

    Teams (Portland) under the cap recieve a room exception ($2.6 mil) that they may use to sign one or more players over the cap, but not in combination with cap room.

    Teams over the cap, but under the luxery tax level, recieve a mid-level exception of ($5 mil), and teams over the lux tax level get a tax-payer mid-level exception ($3 mil)

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 02/26/2013 8:26 AM

    Posted By commontongue on 02/25/2013 9:58 PM

    Hey Knorton !!

    This is everything you need to know about everything.

    http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm

    If I sound like an expert, it's just because I read that. ; )

     

    I've asked Larry Coons (ESPN CBA guru and author of that CBA FAQ) a few questions via twitter that were not explicitely answered in the FAQ in relation to situations specific to the Blazers.  I've only been on twitter for like a month or so, and he's gotten right back to me everytime.  I'm sure if it's a good question, and you can't find the answer in his FAQ, he'll get back to you with an answer. 

  1. Storyteller
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    Posted 02/26/2013 2:37 PM

    Posted By knorton181 on 02/24/2013 12:59 PM
    Basically I know very, very little about the NBA cap. Ask me about the NFL and I could answer you quickly... cuz it's much, much simpler lol

    There's only one rule for the NBA cap (and it's actually called the "Basic Rule of the Salary Cap".   Here it is:

     

    "A Team’s Team Salary may not exceed the Salary Cap at any time unless the Team is using one of the Exceptions set forth in Section 6 below."

     

    (It's found in Article VII, Section 5(a) of the Collective Bargaining Agreement)

     

    The problem is that there are literally a dozen exceptions to this one rule, and that's where you get terms like "MLE" and "Veteran's Exception".   The cap is simple, the exceptions are complex.....

     

    In answer to your original question, yes, teams routinely have one or more cap holds that put their Team Salary figure over the cap.   Maynor's cap hold will be $5.847 million, so that's the amount that will count against Portland's cap until either:

    1) He signs a new contract with the Blazers or another team

    2) His free agent rights are renounced by the Blazers (at which point his cap hit becomes zero)

     

    And, yes, Larry Coon is the man.  His FAQ on the Collective Bargaining Agreement is pure gold.

     

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  1. Storyteller
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    Posted 02/26/2013 2:41 PM

    BTW, Blazer Fanatic, Hickson is not eligible for a Qualifying Offer this June.   He's not on his Rookie Scale contract any longer and he has played more than 3 seasons in the NBA.  

     

    His cap hold as a free agent will be $7.6 million, but Portland won't have any right of first refusal.

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 02/26/2013 10:10 PM

    Posted By Storyteller on 02/26/2013 2:41 PM

    BTW, Blazer Fanatic, Hickson is not eligible for a Qualifying Offer this June.   He's not on his Rookie Scale contract any longer and he has played more than 3 seasons in the NBA.  

     

    His cap hold as a free agent will be $7.6 million, but Portland won't have any right of first refusal.



    Correct. It's just a cap hold, but it will also retain his Bird Rights.  All the more reason to not pick up his cap hold in my opinion. 
  1. Storyteller
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    Posted 02/27/2013 10:37 AM

    And the beauty of cap holds is that they don't have to be renounced until the team actually needs them off the books to make a player transaction.

    So in this case, I see the Blazers retaining the FA rights to Hickson, Babbitt, Smith, Williams and Maynor when the new salary cap season starts on July 1.   Their cap holds will count against the cap, keeping Portland technically above the cap.  Then, if an opportunity arises to make a FA signing or a trade that needs cap space, they can renounce some or all of them to actually create the cap space.   But if that opportunity never presents itself, the team still holds FA rights to those players to re-sign them or to involve them in a Sign-and-Trade.

    It's all about keeping the maximum number of options open as a franchise.   No need to close a door too early.

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 02/27/2013 11:10 AM

    @Storyteller, it's my understanding the Babbit, Smith and Williams are all three FA this offseason so we have no rights to any of the 3. We didn't extend them at the fall deadline so they are off the books when the season ends. Not saying we won't sign Eric Williams because I think we'll make him an offer but all three of those players come off the books and we will have no cap holds or rights to them.  
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  1. Storyteller
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    Posted 02/27/2013 11:46 AM

    riverman - there are two issues at play with a guy who is coming off of a Rookie Scale contract, such as Babbitt, Smith and Williams.   The first issue is the one you mentioned - not picking up their team options back in October - which ensured two things:  1) that the Blazers lost their rights to extend any of their current contracts and 2) that the Blazers lost their rights to extend Qualifying Offers to them, meaning that all three will become unrestricted FA's on July 1st

     

    But the second issue is that of cap holds, which was unaffected by the decision in October.   There are two types of free agents - renounced free agents and unrenounced free agents.  The latter count against a team's cap (ie, there is a cap hold in place) while the former do not.  Until the Blazers renounce their FA rights, each of the three will have a cap hold that counts against the Blazers' books.   Babbitt's cap hold will be $2,902,758, Williams' cap hold will be $2,373,538 and Smith's cap hold will be $1,424,520.   (Incidentally, those amounts are equal to the amounts that they would have made in 2013-14 if the Blazers had picked up the team options)

     

    As I said in the post above, I believe there will come a time when the team does renounce their FA rights to all three in order to create cap space.   But until the team actually files that paperwork, they each will count against the cap.

     

    I hope this makes sense - it's complex.   But there's a difference between the issue of "will a FA be restricted or unrestricted?" and the issue of "will a FA have a cap hold?"  The first issue was determined last fall, but the second issue is still at play.

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 02/27/2013 4:49 PM

    June 30 is the last day to determine whether the Blazer pick up their cap holds or not.  It is at that point we find out the League's salary cap, and the exact amount of cap space Portland has going into the July free agency moritorium. 

     

     

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 02/27/2013 4:58 PM

    Opps, I did it again. I meant QO's not cap holds.  JJ and those 3 will not have a QO.  Any of them could sign an offersheet with another team after the moritorium and the Blazer's can't do anything about it.

     

    All 4 will lose their Bird Rights if renounced, however, only Williams/Babbitt/Smith will retain their BR's next season if the Blazers use cap room to resign them for next season.

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 02/27/2013 5:03 PM

    I think another significant issue is that even though Portland may renounce all 4 to provide cap space, they can still perform a S&T after the fact with any or all of them.
  1. riverman
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    Posted 02/27/2013 5:11 PM

    Thanks Storyteller and BF for clarifying those points. Sticking with the topic, of the 3 (not JJ, there's been plenty of banter about him) would you resign Williams or any of those guys and stick them at the bottom of the roster for that price? I think Elliot has potential to be a 6man and would give him a shot on a 1 year bare bones offer.

     

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 02/27/2013 6:22 PM

    Elliot will be signed in my opinion.  The blazers have seen what he's capable of and if they were will to throw 8 mil at Oden, they're little doubt they'd sign Williams for 1/4 of that or less.  I think Babbitt has to finish the season strong and shot much higher shooting percentage to stay on the team with Claver looking like he is the bester do-it-all SF/PF guy.  I like Nolan, but at SG.  And I don't think Portland needs 4 SGs if the plan is to resign Williams and with Barton. I don't think Portland keeps Smith unless they need to fill a roster spot with a guy who is a known in the locker room.
  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 02/27/2013 7:26 PM

    Barring injury I think we have seen the last of Nolan in a Blazer uniform. Elliot will likely be brought back around the vet minimum to see what he can do. Hickson will not be back. Babbitt is also likely not coming back. Portland's likely signing this summer is Zaza Pachulia. I also imagine them trying to bolster the bench with a shooter like Randy Foye and then lastly trying to add a PF or a stretch 3. Someone like Matt Barnes or Chase Buddinger is likely. 

    Maynor will get a look but we not receive a QO because his cap hold is over 5.5 million. If he comes back it will probably be around 2.5 million a year.

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 02/28/2013 12:42 AM

    Hope we bring Elliot back...Likely Portland doesnt pick up Maynor or Hicksons QO

    Still doubt anyone will pay Maynor more than 3 mil a year...

    Claver, Myers, Elliot, Maynor is a decent bench....now we need a center and maybe another bench player

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 02/28/2013 2:05 PM

    Posted By cmeese47 on 02/27/2013 7:26 PM

    Barring injury I think we have seen the last of Nolan in a Blazer uniform. Elliot will likely be brought back around the vet minimum to see what he can do. Hickson will not be back. Babbitt is also likely not coming back. Portland's likely signing this summer is Zaza Pachulia. I also imagine them trying to bolster the bench with a shooter like Randy Foye and then lastly trying to add a PF or a stretch 3. Someone like Matt Barnes or Chase Buddinger is likely. 

    Maynor will get a look but we not receive a QO because his cap hold is over 5.5 million. If he comes back it will probably be around 2.5 million a year.



    Maynor's QO is $3,351,387.  Where did you get $5.5 mil?
  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 02/28/2013 2:38 PM

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/portland-trail-blazers-team-salary has his cap hold at 5.8 million. The qualifying offer does not replace the cap hold. So by making a QO to Maynor we are locking up 5.8 million in cap space, which is too much money for a back up point guard with his limited resume. 

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  1. Storyteller
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    Posted 02/28/2013 2:58 PM

    cmeese47 is correct.  Per Article VII, Section 4 of the Collective Bargaining Agreement, if Maynor doesn't get a Qualifying Offer, he'll be an unrestricted free agent and will have a cap hold equal to 250% of his 2012-13 salary, or $5,846,803.

     

    If he receives a Qualifying Offer, per the same section of the CBA, Maynor will be a restricted free agent and will count against the cap in an amount equal to the greater of these figures:

    1) His Qualifying Offer amount which will be $3,351,387

    2) His Free Agent amount, which will be 250% of his 2012-13 salary or $5,846,803

     

    So whether he's an UFA or a RFA, his cap hold will be $5,846,803

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  1. Storyteller
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    Posted 02/28/2013 3:05 PM

    I think the Blazers will look at bringing back Elliott Williams, but only after they've made other, more important personnel decisions.   So if getting a starting center is priority A on the Blazers' offseason list, making a decision about Elliott is probably E or F or maybe even G.

     

    And I doubt he'll get anything more than a minimum salary amount, especially since the team will probably have renounced their FA rights to him by then.

     

    That being said, it sounds like Williams still has an emotional attachment to the team and to the other players, which bodes well for him accepting an offer from the Blazers should they decide to make one to him.

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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 02/28/2013 5:05 PM

    ^Good point Storyteller about bringing back Elliot Williams, and it not being the first thing we do. I'd say he's more of a priority C/D TBO. I think we specifically brought Maynor in here so we could retain him, that is if he plays well enough. So we would then have, what sounds like <10 mil. Elliot right now is priority Z. We are waiting on him, but if he is healthy, he is a very cheap, very viable backup 2. A position in which we don't need a whole lot more depth anyways. But we do need a solid scorer behind Wes IMO.

     

    OK so for clarification, if we wanted to resign Hickson.. we would be putting a cap hold of, is it $7.8 mil. And so if we didn't make a cap hold then in no way could we resign him (thus making sign-and-trade not an option).

       -So let's say we place a cap hold on Hickson. And he decides he wants to sign else-where. Does the cap hold get removed or are we still stuck not being able to use the 8mil or so?

       -And if we do sign Hickson, do we still have the 7.8 mil cap hold? Or does the cap hold get removed and we just lose whatever amount we are paying him for his first year?

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 02/28/2013 5:26 PM

    Posted By cmeese47 on 02/28/2013 2:38 PM

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/portland-trail-blazers-team-salary has his cap hold at 5.8 million. The qualifying offer does not replace the cap hold. So by making a QO to Maynor we are locking up 5.8 million in cap space, which is too much money for a back up point guard with his limited resume. 



    Thanks. I needed to scroll down.
  1. Storyteller
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    Posted 02/28/2013 5:41 PM

    knorton - When JJ becomes an unrestricted FA on July 1st, he will count against the Blazers' cap in the amount of $7.6 million.   He counts as this amount until:

    1) He re-signs with the Blazers.   He then counts against the Blazers' cap in the amount of his new contract.

    2) He signs with another team.  He then counts $0 against the Blazers' cap

    3) His FA rights are renounced by the Blazers.   He then counts $0 against the Blazers' cap.

     

    If the team renounced his FA rights, they could still re-sign him using cap space instead of Bird Rights.  And as Blazer Fanatic mentioned above, even if he's renounced, he can still be signed-and-traded, although, again, the team would have to use cap space to do so since they would have renounced his Bird Rights.

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 02/28/2013 5:48 PM

    Posted By knorton181 on 02/28/2013 5:05 PM

    ^Good point Storyteller about bringing back Elliot Williams, and it not being the first thing we do. I'd say he's more of a priority C/D TBO. I think we specifically brought Maynor in here so we could retain him, that is if he plays well enough. So we would then have, what sounds like <10 mil. Elliot right now is priority Z. We are waiting on him, but if he is healthy, he is a very cheap, very viable backup 2. A position in which we don't need a whole lot more depth anyways. But we do need a solid scorer behind Wes IMO.

     

    OK so for clarification, if we wanted to resign Hickson.. we would be putting a cap hold of, is it $7.8 mil. And so if we didn't make a cap hold then in no way could we resign him (thus making sign-and-trade not an option).

       -So let's say we place a cap hold on Hickson. And he decides he wants to sign else-where. Does the cap hold get removed or are we still stuck not being able to use the 8mil or so?

       -And if we do sign Hickson, do we still have the 7.8 mil cap hold? Or does the cap hold get removed and we just lose whatever amount we are paying him for his first year?

    Hickson's cap hold is $7.6 mil.  If Portland renounces his cap hold and bird rights, Portland can still resign Hickson.  Renouncing his BR just means they cannot exceed the cap by any amount beyond his cap hold to resign him.  Renouncing his cap hold just means that we won't have any advantage to resign him over any other team.  The Blazers lose his BR and FA rights in renouncing JJ's cap hold.  They can still perform a sign and trade with Hickson even if they renounce him.  There are some stipulations about who he can be traded for, like he couldn't be signed and traded for another teams FA.

     

    If Portland picked up Hickson's cap hold, and Hickson signs an offersheet with another team after the free agent moritorium: 1) his cap hold would be removed from the Blazer's salary 2) his new hold would be replaced with that offer sheet figure 3) that offer sheet figure would count against the team with whom he sign the offersheet with.

     

    Once an offersheet is signed, with Portland or another team, it replaces the cap hold and becomes the amount that counts against team salary. 

     

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 02/28/2013 5:51 PM

    Posted By Storyteller on 02/28/2013 5:41 PM

    knorton - When JJ becomes an unrestricted FA on July 1st, he will count against the Blazers' cap in the amount of $7.6 million.   He counts as this amount until:

    1) He re-signs with the Blazers.   He then counts against the Blazers' cap in the amount of his new contract.

    2) He signs with another team.  He then counts $0 against the Blazers' cap

    3) His FA rights are renounced by the Blazers.   He then counts $0 against the Blazers' cap.

     

    If the team renounced his FA rights, they could still re-sign him using cap space instead of Bird Rights.  And as Blazer Fanatic mentioned above, even if he's renounced, he can still be signed-and-traded, although, again, the team would have to use cap space to do so since they would have renounced his Bird Rights.

    I saw that you responded to a blog I made a while back, and unfortunately, I cannot edit, or view, or write any blogs while logged into my account.  I appriciate you correcting that I was using QO when I should have been using cap hold.  I don't know when it will get fixed.  Thanks for the comment though.

  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 03/01/2013 11:30 AM

    I think we will hold on to JJ bird rights unless last possible moment that way we can get the most value out of him in a sign and trade. Ideally, JJ will bring back two bench players. Someone like Courtney Lee from Boston is likely what we can expect. 

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  1. prider96
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    Posted 03/01/2013 1:29 PM

    Hi Blazer Fan,

    Would you be able to claify what keeps the Blazers from spending just under the luxury tax threshold, rather than stopping at the cap. Wouldn't they have more to spend than $13.5M on free agents this way.

     

    Thank you,

     

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 03/01/2013 2:40 PM

    I can help prider96 Portland can spend up to the luxury tax with some help.  Free agents can only be signed with cap space and exceptions. Right now because the Blazers are slightly above the cap they would qualify for a mid level exception provided they stay above the cap. Unless Portland plans to use the sign and trade to fill its roster and then use the MLE to exceed the cap, we probably will have a spending limit just about at the cap level. Portland though is unlikely to hold on to their cap holds and thus will likely fall below the cap giving the team only a room exception at around 2.6 million to exceed the cap. Should we keep JJ and use his bird rights and the room exception Portland could conceivably go right to the tax line or higher (really not likely). However, to just flat out sign free agents you can only use your cap room. I think this is the distinction Blazer Fanatic is trying to make with her cap room number. 

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 03/06/2013 2:56 AM

    Posted By prider96 on 03/01/2013 1:29 PM

    Hi Blazer Fan,

    Would you be able to claify what keeps the Blazers from spending just under the luxury tax threshold, rather than stopping at the cap. Wouldn't they have more to spend than $13.5M on free agents this way.

     

    Thank you,

     

    Prider96


    We have to make a few assumptions to get the estimated $13.5 mil: JJ, Maynor, Jeffries, Pavloivic, Smith, Williams, Babbit all have their FA rights renounced.

     

    The salary cap could always end up being higher when on June 30th ($60 mil+), but will not be lower than $58 mil and some change.

     

    To your question, teams cannot sign any FA over the cap (without an exception).  The exceptions the Blazers could use to sign a FA over the cap would most likely be either a minimum salary contract (around $1 mil), or by using their $2.5 mil Room exception (the mid-level exception is for teams over the cap and is $5 mil).  Regarding the Room exception: teams cannot combine this exception with cap space to sign a FA.  Let's say the Blazers had $2 mi in available cap this summer, and they want to sign a FA for $3 mil, they cannot.

     

    The option to Sign and Trade would be the only way to aquire that free agent, and Portland could only trade away someone under contract (Freeland for instance).  Teams cannot S&T their own FA for another team's FA.  I saw a really interesting suggestion involving a S&T for Tiago Splitter (RFA) and Freeland (under contract) which would afford Portland another $3 mil in flexibility via Freeland's contract.  Let's suppose Splitter would sign an offer sheet with Portland for say $10 mil.  It would be more advantagious to aquire him via S&T, as the cost would be $7 mil (whatever other pieces Portland gave, perhaps including cash) and Freeland's $3 mil contract, rather than $10 mil straigh up.

     

    Repeating myself here, but the Larry Bird exception could also come into play for JJ and Maynor.

    Portland could decide not to renounce JJ, and use his Bird Rights (another exception) to exceed the cap.  However, that would require Portland to place the $7.6 mil cap hold on their books, leaving them with $5.9 mil rather than $13.5 mil to spend on FAs.  If Portland picked up JJ's cap hold and say they gave him a $9.6 mil per year deal, the team could exceed the cap by only $2 mil.  I like JJ, but $10 mil, let alone $7.6 mil, is a ton of sugar for a future, back-up PF/C on this Blazer team.  I was surprised JJ signed for $4 mil.  That won't happen this summer you can guarantee.

     

    Maynor's BR's could also be used if Portland picked up his his cap hold, but again, with his cap hold (over $5 mil) and JJ's cap hold combined, the Blazer would use up their all their available cap space.  Are the Blazers even considering signing Maynor for more than his cap hold?  If not, why eat up cap space and leave them with no flexibility to go after a bigger deal?  They could always come back to Maynor after missing on a big name FA (as Portland did with Hickson after they wiffed on Hibbert, Gordon, ect).

     

    Currently, the luxury tax limit is $70 mil and change.  It could be higher, but it will not be lower.  The only way Portland gets to the tax limit (let alone crosses it), is using JJ and/or Maynors Bird Rights, signing one or both to monster contracts, using the $2.5 mil Room exception on yet another FA, and then signing 4 more players that would make 1mil or more minimum salary.  In other words, the Blazers would have to exceed JJ's $7 mil and Maynor's $5 mil cap holds by $4-6 mil combined to cross over into the luxury tax.

     

    Based on current contracts, the Blazers shouldn't have to deal with luxury tax talk till the end of the 2014-2015 season when Matthews and LA end their current contracts.  Hope this helps.

     

     

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    The Blazers were winning!  That is the key word, were.  Blazers are living proof that you can live and die by the jumper.  Lately it has been dying.

     

    Thank God they are 19 games over 500.  Mayb...

  4. Spencer hawes

    Started by jamsmashers on 02/13/14 at 1:03 PM

    Hawes will be a hot commodity by the trade deadline, I would think the sixers could find a better offer.

    However, I do believe Mo Williams could have somewhat of  a high trade value. Olshey needs to make a deal to get a big man while we...

  5. Oh Forum

    Started by cmeese47 on 02/11/14 at 2:39 PM

    How I miss you. I want to take this time to appreciate the Blazers not appreciating the fans. 

  6. Great Article - Portland Issues

    Started by Tim Morrissey on 02/09/14 at 11:19 AM

    Portland Trail  Blazers: 9 Subtle Things Wrong with the Blazers

    Started by Tim Morrissey on 02/09/14 at 10:46 AM

  7. Andrew Bynum

    Started by David Cassaro on 01/07/14 at 1:42 PM

    Yeah and now Blazers have zero interest in Bynum. I really thought he was worth the small risk. If anything he would be at the end of our bench and we use him as a sub. Hopefully we do make some type of trade for a quality back up center. Right no...

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