Next year's Cap: What's it mean for the Blazers?
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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/06/2013 3:04 PM

    LarryCoon - via twitter
    Last league projection I saw was $60M. 

     

    This means the Blazers could have as much as $12-14 mil in cap space.  That certiainly gives Portland more breathing room to work with, but still doesn't guarantee they will be able to afford JJ AND improve the situation at Center, or the depth at SG and PG.

     

     

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/06/2013 4:37 PM

    LA, Matthews, Lillard, Batum, Freeland, Barton, Claver, Leonard are guaranteed for next year, or $43,240,458 in guaranteed salary.

     

    If the Blazers lose their 1st round pick to the Bobcats (falls out of the top 12 lottery), the blazers will have a salary of $45,135,074 on the books when the free-agency moritorium begins.

     

    If the cap stays at $58,044,000 mil, Portland will have $12,908,926 in available cap room, a 2 mil trade exception (the team can take back $2 mil more than they give up), and a $2.575 Room exception (allowing them to exceed the cap by that amount).

     

    If the most current league projection is correct, via Larry Coons, and the cap is $60 mil, the Blazers will have $14,908,926 in cap space.

     

    So $14-15 mil (+ $2.575 Room exception) to resign JJ, find an answer at Center, pick up a legit back up PG and/or SG, and fill out the roster.

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/06/2013 4:55 PM

    In terms of priorityI'd favor doing it in this order: Center, SG (who can handle the ball), Hickson, PG.
  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 01/06/2013 5:01 PM

    Yo, this is a stupid question  and I always had trouble understanding cap space. 

    Since you the most intelligent/hottest Blazer fan I know- your perfect to ask

    What does it mean to have 12million cap space??

    Say we want to sign a player for like a 3 years 12million dollar contract would we have 0 cap space left or 8 million left??????????????

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  1. Nuno
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    Posted 01/06/2013 5:08 PM

    I think it is enough to make a very strong team! We basically need to build a good bench we already have a good starting 5, and some players that can develop to good players. 3 Players are really needed (C,PG and SG) + 8 guaranteed as you said, total 11...

    if the roster is about 14, one less or one more...

    Would be about 3 missing, should we resign/keep some players that know how the team plays and could fit well

    or get some more new players?

    i think we should keep some instead of getting new, in order to keep the harmony on the team.

  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/06/2013 5:19 PM

    Posted By Siccolo on 01/06/2013 5:01 PM

    Yo, this is a stupid question  and I always had trouble understanding cap space. 

    Since you the most intelligent/hottest Blazer fan I know- your perfect to ask

    What does it mean to have 12million cap space??

    Say we want to sign a player for like a 3 years 12million dollar contract would we have 0 cap space left or 8 million left??????????????



    Cap space is based on the current year.  A 3 year $12 mil contract means $4 mil per year.  We'd have $8 mil left.
  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/06/2013 5:21 PM

    I would like to resign Babbitt and Williams, and I think we could get them both for less than their current cap holds.  Those 2 would be part of a filler, and I could see both fitting under the $2.575 Room exception.
  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/06/2013 5:23 PM

    There's also an endless number of sign and trades we could make with Freeland, Claver, Babbitt, Hickson... ect.
  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 01/06/2013 5:28 PM

    Ok thanks 

    Bringing in Babbit could be a good idea but I dont know about Elliot

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/06/2013 5:30 PM

    Posted By Siccolo on 01/06/2013 5:28 PM

    Ok thanks 

    Bringing in Babbit could be a good idea but I dont know about Elliot



    Neither do the Blazers, which is why I think we sign him for less to see what we have before we cut him.  At least with Nolan Smith, he's had his opportunities, and he's not going to cut it as a back up PG for us.
  1. riverman
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    Posted 01/06/2013 5:48 PM

    Great post! My priorities for upgrading the team would be 20+pt ball handling 6th man, Role playing defensive minded bench center that rebounds well and can fill the hole until Leonard matures and a backup for Batum that is athletic and can finish at the rim. Maybe Elliot can be that 6 man but it's a big maybe at this point. A lot depends on the growth of Claver and Freeland by April. It's still such a young season and a new coach can't teach the time it takes to gel with different rosters. Stotts has his hands full for sure. I predict Nolan Smith will be history after this season.
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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/06/2013 6:26 PM

    Nolan fired his agent.  The writing is on the wall.
  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 01/06/2013 8:30 PM

    Posted By riverman on 01/06/2013 5:48 PM
    Great post! My priorities for upgrading the team would be 20+pt ball handling 6th man, Role playing defensive minded bench center that rebounds well and can fill the hole until Leonard matures and a backup for Batum that is athletic and can finish at the rim. Maybe Elliot can be that 6 man but it's a big maybe at this point. A lot depends on the growth of Claver and Freeland by April. It's still such a young season and a new coach can't teach the time it takes to gel with different rosters. Stotts has his hands full for sure. I predict Nolan Smith will be history after this season.

    Yeah I agree 

    About bringing in a 20pt ball handling 6th man and a defensive minded center-I like Clavers and Babbits game I'm sure one of them will be a adequate backup to Batum.

    The thing is If we do decide to bring back JJ, how much space would we have left?? This is a question I think a lot of want to avoid - How JJs new contract will look?

    I mean Taj Gibson got signed to a 4 year 38 million dollar contract...Hopefully Hick's Contract wont have to be this big but I think this is what it might come to, because JJ is way better than Taj..... So If JJ does get this kind of deal we will have about 5 million left. Hopefully Im wrong and Hick wont get such a big offer LOL

    5 Mil is not a lot to work with to fill out the roster....

    Randy Foye is a guy I think that come in and put up buckets off the bench and might come cheap...he signed a one year 2.5 million contract with Utah last year because everyone team already found what they were looking for at SG else where....I think this might happen again this offseason also....I think we should do what Utah did last year this offseason.

    Then try to use the rest of space we have to try to get Samuel Dalembert, maybe bring back Joel Vanilla Gorilla, Brendan Wright, ZaZa Pachulia...

    Then we still dont have a backup at PG.........Hopefully we can sign JJ to a 4 Year 30-32 million dollar contract

    Will be interesting how Olshey and FO handles this Offseason.....

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  1. Humble822
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    Posted 01/12/2013 8:49 PM

    My opinion is that if it comes down to keeping JJ or getting capspace for the bench. I think trading jj could be wise but it could hurt us a lot. Hickson gives us a ton of second chance points/opportunities but no doubt he will ask for a huge contract next year. Olshey is known to be a risktaker and just might try tradin hickson or even LMA before the trade deadline, he might also trade hickson in a sign and trade. Bottom line the blazers need money to improve the bench, but they dont need a huge starting center just a guy who can rip on the boards night in and night out. Maybe trading hicson isnt wise but at the end it matters abot wats best for the team.   

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  1. sedare
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    Posted 01/13/2013 6:43 AM

    i read something about stotts playing LMA differently this year, and only in the last 16 or so games he has really improved in this style. More outside shooting... and with the comment by Kerr (same last name as me, had to giggle) on TNT, I really thing trading him is a bad idea. We would never replace LMA, and it does not matter how much I love hickson, he cant stretch the floor like LMA can. He is not a perimeter threat. We need to keep LMA


    As far as back up PG, I am really starting to like price, but if you are going to run the point you can expect to get fouled, and get put to the line if your set breaks on offence. THIS KID CANT MAKE FREETHROWS. 6X%?!?!? If Lillard goes down for any amount of time, hack this guy on the way to the hoop, 1/2 rinse repeat. I have not seen him shoot 3s much either. Hes quality 3rd string. Find a good PG/SG combo behind Lillard/Matthews unless Elliot gets healthy.  (BTW is Elliot going to play at all this year?)


    um, Center. Im not sure Portland will drop over 7-8 mil on JJ if he is going to play 7th man behind whatever center we get, and behind the SG/PG 6thman we get. Is a bench player worth that if we are building a contending team? ***DEBATE, GO***

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  1. DaBlazer
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    Posted 01/13/2013 10:57 AM

    Nick Young Maybe?
  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 01/13/2013 11:27 AM

    Devin Harris and Emeka Okafor are some other guys I like

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/13/2013 2:10 PM

    Posted By Humble822 on 01/12/2013 8:49 PM

    My opinion is that if it comes down to keeping JJ or getting capspace for the bench. I think trading jj could be wise but it could hurt us a lot. Hickson gives us a ton of second chance points/opportunities but no doubt he will ask for a huge contract next year. Olshey is known to be a risktaker and just might try tradin hickson or even LMA before the trade deadline, he might also trade hickson in a sign and trade. Bottom line the blazers need money to improve the bench, but they dont need a huge starting center just a guy who can rip on the boards night in and night out. Maybe trading hicson isnt wise but at the end it matters abot wats best for the team.   


    The Blazers can't trade Hickson before the deadline without his permission.  The best case scenario for Portland would be to sign JJ for 4-5 mil as a back up PF, or S&T him in the off-season.  JJ would be doing Portland a favor in a S&T in that the new CBA provides very little incentive for a free agent to do so.

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    Posted 01/13/2013 2:10 PM

    Posted By Siccolo on 01/13/2013 11:27 AM

    Devin Harris and Emeka Okafor are some other guys I like



    Okafor's contract is giant.
  1. commontongue
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    Posted 01/14/2013 2:12 PM

    Denver is looking to move Mosgov because he's not getting much run. Pachulia would be a nice pick up, but i dont know his health status, or his contract situation. Id also like to see another JJ on our team, JJ Reddick.
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  1. Mattman39192
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    Posted 01/14/2013 2:42 PM

    What about a better more consistent bench? Or a really good sixth man like Jamal Crawford should have been for us last year. Someone like a Kevin Martin off the bench and focus mainly on that along with securing our starters like Lamarcus
  1. commontongue
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    Posted 01/14/2013 5:31 PM

    Easier said than done. How many game changers are actually available at a good enough price that wouldnt keep us from getting our real target of a servicable big with some warranty left on his powertrain ?

     

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/14/2013 9:21 PM

    I don't like Pechulia either.  Mosgov would certainly help.  And I really like Reddick with the offense Stotts runs and that he and Lillard can play PG/SG one trip, and SG/PG the next trip down on offense.

     

    And I made a slight error with the Room exception.  It's $2.652 for next summer, not $2.575.

  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 01/16/2013 10:49 AM

    I'm really confused by the Jamal Crawford Situation. I mean why did he leave? if we still had him,we'd be awesome, It sucks to know that our one big problem is something that we had on our team last year,and he opted out. I wish I knew why he did us soo wrong,cause if we had him on our team we'd be a very solid mid-level playoff team and alot of teams would be scared of us. Why did he leave? Why does it seem like the blazers are always sooo close,but we always miss something one way or the other

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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 01/16/2013 10:57 AM

    here we are talking about a ball handling 20pt sixth man,and we Had jamal crawford.uggh. Who else is out there? Jason Terry? Ray Allen? Devin Harris is cool,I didnt even know he was still around though,is he on utah, Okafor would be nice also but he's crazy expensive,JJ reddick would be cool. This team has good chemistry and for the first time in years a blazer team is playing "Above" Expectations,so breaking them up by trading LMA or letting Hickson go is a bad idea,we need to add players without losing anyone. Paul Allen has no problem shelling out Cash for the Beloved Seahawks,why not spend some on the blazers. I know its been disapointing that they lost in 2000 when he spent all that money on those teams,but get over it already,spend some cash,go over the limit like all the other winning teams do.But I doubt he'll do that
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 01/16/2013 11:53 AM

    Crawford left because we missed handled him and he did not want to play for a rebuilding team. The dude is one of most selfish players in the game and we asked him to play pg. He is best when he just jacks up a bunch of shots and can get in a rhythm. He is also a terrible defender. He works in LA cause they need scoring on the bench and have great defenders to cover for him like Barnes, Hill and Bledsoe.

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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 01/16/2013 5:14 PM

    we need to sign jj reddick for 4 years and maybe 12 million. samuel dalembert for 2 years and 2 million.then we can sign mayo for 5 years and 40 million dollars. bang we just have a big bench player in mayo and reddick. get a defensive presence in dalembert will get a boost in our interior offense. starter- lillard, wesley, batum, LA, Meyers. PG backup Reddick, SG backup Mayo, SF backup Claver, PF backup Freeland, C back up Dalembert. i think the 6th man nod goes to Mayo and 7th man goes to Reddick. ant opinion on this.

     

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 01/16/2013 9:37 PM

    Why grab Redick and Mayo?? We would end up with 3 SGs

    I think Redick gets a bigger contract then that anyways.

    Myers cant be our starting center next year

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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 01/17/2013 7:52 AM

    Hate Crawford, I have a Unnatural hatred towards him
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 01/17/2013 2:41 PM

    Posted By DamianLilard on 01/16/2013 5:14 PM

    we need to sign jj reddick for 4 years and maybe 12 million. samuel dalembert for 2 years and 2 million.then we can sign mayo for 5 years and 40 million dollars. bang we just have a big bench player in mayo and reddick. get a defensive presence in dalembert will get a boost in our interior offense. starter- lillard, wesley, batum, LA, Meyers. PG backup Reddick, SG backup Mayo, SF backup Claver, PF backup Freeland, C back up Dalembert. i think the 6th man nod goes to Mayo and 7th man goes to Reddick. ant opinion on this.

     


    First of all JJ Reddick will not sign for anywhere close to 3 million a season. He is currently making over 6 a year right now and would likely not take any less than a full MLE. Samuel Dalembert is making over 6 million a season as well. OJ Mayo is averaging 18 points per game he will make probably a lot more than 8 per year even if he doesn't we certainly do not have enough money to sign him resign JJ and improve the bench.

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/17/2013 8:39 PM

    Posted By cmeese47 on 01/17/2013 2:41 PM
    Posted By DamianLilard on 01/16/2013 5:14 PM

    we need to sign jj reddick for 4 years and maybe 12 million. samuel dalembert for 2 years and 2 million.then we can sign mayo for 5 years and 40 million dollars. bang we just have a big bench player in mayo and reddick. get a defensive presence in dalembert will get a boost in our interior offense. starter- lillard, wesley, batum, LA, Meyers. PG backup Reddick, SG backup Mayo, SF backup Claver, PF backup Freeland, C back up Dalembert. i think the 6th man nod goes to Mayo and 7th man goes to Reddick. ant opinion on this.

     


    First of all JJ Reddick will not sign for anywhere close to 3 million a season. He is currently making over 6 a year right now and would likely not take any less than a full MLE. Samuel Dalembert is making over 6 million a season as well. OJ Mayo is averaging 18 points per game he will make probably a lot more than 8 per year even if he doesn't we certainly do not have enough money to sign him resign JJ and improve the bench.



    And LA will not be traded, but that doesn't stop you from suggesting it at nausium. 
  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 01/17/2013 9:12 PM

    That would be ad nauseam. However, that is an unfair comparison considering LA has no power over whether he is traded or not, while Reddick will have the power to sign anywhere he wants this summer. Furthermore, there is more chance that we deal LA than any team signs Reddick for 4 years @ 3 million per. 

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 01/18/2013 12:04 AM

    I think your mention to trade LA in every other thread are unfair to my tummy.
  1. KevinMontoy
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    Posted 01/18/2013 1:53 AM

    i think we are a good team right now, but we need to shake our bench, what about trading Freeland,Babbit,Nolan and bringing player like Josh McRoberts..? i read an article saying that Magic is looking for every possible trade scenario for Josh and JJ Redick, if JJ is expensive what about Josh..? athletic,can score,can block shot,i think he'll be a good fit.. or if we can get a player like Dalember it will be great too, Meyers will learn a lot defensively from Dalembert..

    and what about signing free agent like Sam Young..? he can play both SG and SF position,a good scorer,has improved his shooting,and he plays defense too, he'll be a great player coming off the bench

    for a ball handler i can't find a good option that we can easily get, i just think that we should really gave up our best bench player if we want to get some good player too ( but not Meyers,Claver,Barton and Jeffries ) haha

    just a thought

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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 01/18/2013 10:39 AM

    josh mcroberts was a blazer
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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 01/18/2013 11:02 AM

    JJ redick makes 6 million a year? I mean he's having a good year this year cause orlando has nobody and he's getting alot of touches,but on a good team? wow
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 01/18/2013 11:23 AM

    To me, JJ Redick is worth it. He's the bench scorer, the 6th man we're lacking.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 01/18/2013 2:10 PM

    JJ would be awesome off of our bench. And i do mean both of them, Reddick and Hickson.
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  1. xXKrisKringleXx
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    Posted 01/19/2013 3:43 PM

    Will Blazers use the 13 million for bench players?
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  1. xXKrisKringleXx
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    Posted 01/19/2013 3:45 PM

    Greg Oden is making his return to the NBA and the Heat are interested. Thoughts?
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 01/20/2013 1:05 PM

    My thoughts on Oden....if he returns to the NBA he should be required to play for the Blazers for 3 years for free. He's been paid well for a job he didn't do. Injuries are one thing but combining alcohol with rehab is the worst thing a person can do. I think Oden owes the Blazers big time.
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    Posted 01/20/2013 5:53 PM

    Greg Who?
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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 01/20/2013 7:50 PM

    i think that getting both reddick and mayo in the free agent would benefit our team. reddick can easily back up lillard as mayo can back up batum. then we can try to get eric moreland os OSU BEAVERS to back up both batum and aldridge,when he enter the nba. he will add defense skill to our team. bang if we make all these decisions, you guy should be happy for me suggesting this idea
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