Do the Blazers have a first round pick this year?
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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 12/14/2012 11:41 AM

    Ok my laker fan buddy,who is basically a idiot,keeps telling me the Blazers traded their first round pick. I dont believe him I mean who would we have traded it for? So i'm sure he's lying, I was just wondering if anyone can clarify it for me
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 12/14/2012 12:06 PM

    Im not sure But I think we traded it for Gerald Wallace. I think it is top 14 protected.

     

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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 12/14/2012 12:41 PM

    It is protected.  Top 12 protected from 2013 to 2015 to be exact.  So the pick only belongs to CHA, via the Gerald Wallace trade, if it is a lower pick than 12 from 2013 to 2015.  The pick becomes unprotected and CHA will get have our 1st rd pick in 2016 if the Blazer draft in the top 12 in the next 3 years.

    "We preserved some cap room for next summer, we've got our first round pick, we've got three second's, we've got a lot of deal-making tools." - Neil Olshey - via Casey's blog

     

     

  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 12/14/2012 1:13 PM

    its obviously gonna be lower then 12 its gonna be like 5 or 6, soo oh well were screwed
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  1. Blazer Fanatic
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    Posted 12/14/2012 1:37 PM

    I don't know if you misunderstood or not.

    If the pick is 12, 11, 10, 9....1, it belongs to Portland in 2013-2015 drafts.  If our pick is 13, 14, 15... or lower (a later pick), CHA will get the Blazer's pick.  IF the Blazers are in the lottery (top 12 picks) in the next 3 years, Portland will retain the pick for each of those years, and CHA will then own our pick our-right in 2016.

  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 12/14/2012 4:21 PM

    Good job Fanatic that is exactly the situation. Basically this team has until 2016 to make the playoffs or we are screwed.

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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 12/14/2012 4:42 PM

    So the point is that at this rate, we will probably have our pick. It does get confusing when we say "lower pick" meaning lower on the draft board even though the number is higher. The only thing that could mess things up for us is if we don't make the playoffs, but our record puts us just a spot or two out. Then we're at risk of getting pick 13 or 14. Missing the playoffs AND losing a lottery pick in the first year would really suck.


    P.S. If we don't make the playoffs by 2016, I'm pretty sure we will have traded for some picks or players by then.

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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 12/14/2012 7:06 PM

    Ok cool,when you said Lower I mistook it for lower as in 1 being  lower the 12
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 12/15/2012 10:09 AM

    Speaking of the pick, we are probably going to have it around 7-12. WHO do you want on this roster next year that will be drafted in that range???

    Names I see that are interesting are : Otto Porter, Mason Plumee, Archie Goodwin

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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 12/15/2012 2:50 PM

    Assuming freeland and leonard are still on the roster, I'm not sure I like Plumlee. There's no minutes to be had up at the 4/5 and I don't think he'd develop. Porter might be nice because he's almost a carbon-copy of a young Batum. Great steal and block numbers, extremely long and a good 3-point shooter. Goodwin maybe, but I think he's too similar to Barton. A name I like is CJ McCollum. He might jump too high in the rankings, but that guy's a study in efficiency: over 50% from the field AND behind the 3-point line. Skilled enough to back-up Dame at the 1 or play beside him at the 2. Until I see some more of the prospects, that's who I'm rooting for right now.

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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 12/15/2012 3:50 PM

    if we retain it we should use it for trade bait for a rebuilding team for a package deal that could land us either a legit solid starting center or a great 6th man just my opinion since this draft looks really lame 

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  1. jimmybball23
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    Posted 12/16/2012 8:44 AM

    I like Alex Poythress, from Kentucky (if he drops that low). He is a big guy at 6'8, 240 but athletic. He is a guy who is efficient and you dont have to run plays for. He is a good defender as well and would go great behind batum, and help defend the bigger threes that Batum struggles with. 
  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 12/16/2012 9:09 AM

    Tony Mitchell from N. Texas is the best option for this team.

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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 12/16/2012 10:52 AM

    You have a point, Blaser, this draft isn't very strong. But I also think the draft is the best tool for rebuilding, so trading away picks to get a "rebuilding package" sounds a bit contradictory. We don't have to get a starter in the 2013 draft, just a solid player. As far as a starting center goes, JJ is fantastic right now (and could also be a killer 6th man if the lineups change). Meyers will develop also. There really aren't a lot of centers to go around right now, so we have to develop our young 7-footer and stick with JJ while we can.


    Cmeese, are you thinking Tony Mitchell as a backup 3? He's an undersized 4 from what I can tell (although we passed on Faried and that was a mistake). What's his skill that will translate well? I'm not liking his rebound #'s although his 2.5 bpg is a nice stat. Not sure a 6-8 forward can be a prolific shot-blocker if he's playing down low. Nic is a freak of nature, that's how he does it. lol

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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 12/16/2012 11:05 AM

    Agreed D_Pickett, with all
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  1. BLASER
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    Posted 12/16/2012 3:48 PM

    Posted By D_pickett on 12/16/2012 10:52 AM

    You have a point, Blaser, this draft isn't very strong. But I also think the draft is the best tool for rebuilding, so trading away picks to get a "rebuilding package" sounds a bit contradictory. We don't have to get a starter in the 2013 draft, just a solid player. As far as a starting center goes, JJ is fantastic right now (and could also be a killer 6th man if the lineups change). Meyers will develop also. There really aren't a lot of centers to go around right now, so we have to develop our young 7-footer and stick with JJ while we can.


    Cmeese, are you thinking Tony Mitchell as a backup 3? He's an undersized 4 from what I can tell (although we passed on Faried and that was a mistake). What's his skill that will translate well? I'm not liking his rebound #'s although his 2.5 bpg is a nice stat. Not sure a 6-8 forward can be a prolific shot-blocker if he's playing down low. Nic is a freak of nature, that's how he does it. lol


    idk jj is a bit undersized and doesn't provide interior d he does clean the boards up nicely though and plays in the paint I think he would be better suited playing behind aldridge then with aldridge just my opinion on that but who knows maybe by next season leonard will be good to go in the starting line up who knows 

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  1. DaBlazer
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    Posted 12/17/2012 3:31 PM

    I agree, Tony Mitchell would be a greaty pick for Portland.
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