Tough decisions on who makes the cut (Karl,Ammo,Holiday Waived)
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 10/11/2012 10:49 AM

    I think it's going to be really difficult to weed out players before the regular season. Who goes to Idaho and who just goes? Elliot will be retained according to Olshey. Is Nolan Smith all he's hyped up to be? So far I havent seen it. How patient should we be with Babbit? I think Claver looks more polished than Babbit or Morrison. Freeland disappointed me in the first preseason game but I think he's not a natural 4 and Stotts had him there. I think Pavlovich is the best backup for the 2. It's not easy to cut into this talent pool but there will be cuts in a few weeks. Paychecks should also be a factor. Babbit makes 3x Clavers salary. Smith makes way more than Barton. What do you guys think?
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 10/11/2012 11:21 AM

    Sasha is free money.Boston is paying his salary. Babbit to the D league.
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  1. mbmurr1
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    Posted 10/12/2012 8:45 AM

    I hope Babbitt does well in the D-league so we can trade his #$@%^!&
    I think a mid-level guy like (Smith) could go to the D-league if we are looking to showcase him for trade options.
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 10/12/2012 9:56 PM

    Babbitt made some jumpers and played some defense tonight... finally. I don't know if the D-League is the way to do it. Every time that happens, he lights it up in Idaho, moves back up, and plays like crap in real games.

    If I were making the call--based on what I've seen this year, last year, summer league, etc.--I would start the season with these 15 guys.

    1. Aldridge
    2. Batum
    3. Matthews
    4. Hickson
    5. Lillard
    6. Leonard
    7. Freeland
    8. Jeffries
    9. Price
    10. Barton
    11. Smith
    12. Pavlovic
    13. Claver
    14. Williams
    15. Babbitt

    I guess that's mostly because they are the guaranteed contract guys, but they all earned it. The only other guy that I could see making the team is Morrison, but I don't know who he would knock off the roster.

    After that, I would look into one or more trades involving Babbitt, Claver, and/or Smith. 
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 10/16/2012 9:52 PM

    Idk why this post isn't number 1 in the top message boards lol. This is a big decision. This is what preseason is for. I love watching them play and all, but you never know who'll end up on the team, and it goes beyond just talent.

    I think it's fair to say that the deciding guys are Babbit, Claver, Nolan, Morrison, Elliot, maybe Justin Holliday, and I guess some would say Pavlovic and Jeffries.

    To start, I think Babbit is a streaky hot and cold shooter, who can be fun to watch when he's draining, but other than shooting when he's on a hot run... he doesn't bring ANYTHING else to the table on the court; too slow and unathletic for the 3, and too small and weak for the 4. Though, what he also adds is a little bit of trade bait.

    Claver looks like an energy player, kind of like Rudy, though I think he also adds in a factor of international roots that we're trying to have here, for Batum and Freeland. I've yet to see him do anything in preseason though.
     
    Nolan has improved, it seems, although he still looks to be just a step behind being able to run the point very well offensively. However, we need more than just 2 PG's.

    Morrison has impressed, coming back from a shakey, questionable career, he adds a good shot and a little energy to the bench, and maybe some inspiration. But he isn't too athletic, isn't great getting to the rim, and doesn't play great defense.

    Elliot... Well to be honest there isn't much to say since he has barely played.. Which is sad because he looked to have great athleticism, a decent shot, and good awareness. I have heard that Olshey would like to keep him, though I just don't know if his career as a Blazer will ever even get started.

    Justin Holiday, a Big Ol " ? " . Even without the relation to brother Jrue Holiday, he is intrigueing.. stands tall at 6'6, was a leader to the Pac-10 Huskies, is young and a sponge to the game. He needs to get better with dribbling and shooting consistency, but plays good defense and adds young depth to a thin position.

    As for Pavlovic and Jeffries, I don't see any question they add a lot to their positions, which we need all the experience and talent that they have to assist our team's development and youth.

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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 10/17/2012 12:14 AM

    It's impossible for us to see what happens in practice. The fan's opinion is based on gametime play. We figure a couple guys are automatic picks like Lillard, Leonard, and Barton. They seem to generally want to destroy the other team. That's a good sign. 
    We're unfortunately off to a bad start with Elliot Williams injury, (get better soon young man). So we're probably going to need reinforcements at the Guard position. This is why I'd like to see Sasha, Victor, and Coby Karl get some more minutes.
    But it's not really up to us who stays and who goes. Like I said, we don't see the entire spectrum of the team. It's up to the coaches, who the coaches like in practice, and what lineups can perform at the highest levels.
    And hey, getting sent to the D-League is sometimes very short lived on the Blazers. Our guys play hard and will get banged up a little. This will open up opportunities for those D-League guys to get some minutes on the Trail Blazers. Look at Anthony Tolliver. We grabbed him from D-League, and he did aight for us. Now he's got a full time job in the NBA.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 10/17/2012 11:53 AM

    I think of all the training camp invites, Morrison has the strongest case to make the team. Really, the only player I could see us waiving to make room for Ammo is Sasha because Boston is paying his salary so waiving him wouldn't cost us a penny. But those two haven't really separated from one another so far through three pre-season games.
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  1. postedbailblazers
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    Posted 10/17/2012 1:12 PM

    What's funny is that this guy...whoever it is that gets that last spot...will actually be needed for a decent amount of minutes.  This would be such a non factor for so many other teams in the league.  We have a bunch of development players that we have to keep though.  This is actually kind of a crucial decision.  No matter what we decide, there will likely be a player left on our roster this season that makes us regret cutting one or more of the guys we will cut.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 10/17/2012 3:16 PM

    Pulling for Ammo! I'm still hopeful he can find some of that Gonzaga magic this year.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 10/17/2012 4:11 PM

    Ditto DHawes22.
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 10/17/2012 7:04 PM

    @Tobyus I completely agree, although fortunately trailblazers.tv can show us a little bit of training camp, we don't seethe practice, you're correct. Most of what I was critiquing was based on games though. And that's where we get a good picture of how they mesh with the team and where there impact as a rol player or even a bench player shows.

    @DHawes22 I like him too but do you think he's better all aound then Pavo? I live in New England currently so I got to see a lot of Boston games, they loved him here and watching him I thought he was great on D and had a developing deep shot. Maybe se'll see more of Morrison tonight, I hope so.
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 10/17/2012 7:05 PM

    we'll*
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  1. abarrer3
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    Posted 10/17/2012 9:13 PM

    I am pulling for Karl to make the team after his performance tonight, and I hope claver can crack the rotation as well.
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 10/17/2012 9:26 PM

    Agree, i think both are very possible abarrer. This'll be interesting to see who makes the cut
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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 10/17/2012 10:38 PM

    I have a feeling that how Karl (he's finally ready to make MEANINGFUL contribution @ the NBA level) played in the game against Den. AND in practice (like Tobyus above, we don't get to actually c much play from practice), he's our 15th guy (we're REALLY gonna feel it when we don't have Dallas Lauderdale in the regular season; I like our bigs but foul trouble will come often for them:(  Holiday JUST showed up a few days ago, so he's REALLY going 2 have to play out of his mind to replace Karl as our 15th guy & that's not likely).  

    We know Adam can shoot it & is now the most NBA ready he's gonna b but it's just not enough v. what other guys can bring (Adam would've made it if it wasn't for some of his competition same goes for Harper & Sasha). 

    Babbit (IDK how it works w/ his $ situation; I wish we could just drop him & keep Sasha) has CLEARLY improved in all areas & we've always known he can shoot but he needs to b consistent w/ it AND it's all the other things about being a player that he just falls short w/; his ceiling isn't very high & his feel for the NBA game just isn't that good. 

    ALL the non-guaranteed guys were good character/nice guys that ALL fit the chemistry of our team.  I feel bad for all these guys that didn't make the cut; I think they ALL would've been great additions to the team & ALL have made great contributions (w/ the exception of Holiday, not bc he's no good but bc he JUST got here) to preparing/making our team better.  So I want to say thanks to all of them for all the hard work they put in & I wish them the best in their careers.
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 10/17/2012 11:11 PM

    The scary thing is that we only get 12 active players. I think that's the reason you keep Elliot. There will have to be 3 inactive roster spots anyway; he can fill one. I know we're talking about the 15th spot as if it's very important. It is important to this team, but not to the other 29. To break it down in a more realistic way,

    1) Aldridge
    2) Batum
    3) Matthews
    4) Lillard
    5) Hickson
    6) Leonard
    7) Freeland
    8) Everyone else.

    When you think about a future Blazers team that will contend for a championship, do you think anyone but these 7 will be relevant? And I'm being generous with Freeland only because he's a PF/C with some talent, which is very difficult to come by these days.

    Nolan and Victor are possible anchors for the future but more likely valuable trade pieces.

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  1. riverman
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    Posted 10/18/2012 10:14 AM

    Last night against the Nuggs, Karl and Claver made a case for a roster spot. I'm still not sold on Ammo getting that spot but Karl showed some real value and Claver had his best game as a Blazer.
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  1. Corey Breiland
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    Posted 10/18/2012 11:03 AM

    Coby Karl stepped up last night. White Mamba!
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 10/19/2012 9:59 PM

    I think we got a huge neon indicator tonight. The only Blazers that played against GS were players that currently hold guaranteed contracts (i.e., none of the training camp signings), aside from the injured players of course.

    I think Coby Karl and Adam Morrison have made a good case to make the NBA, but probably not on the Blazers' roster.
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 10/19/2012 11:33 PM

    Yeah, although Will barton is still one of the most underrated players I've watched and see people act like he is not going to do much. He's definitely a big piece to our bench, and in our future, even potentially a very good sixth man or even a starter (although that may not happen, there are many guys that can just coninuously improve,,, so I'm not willing to disregard any player from having that ability).

    One big elephant in the room right here: Nolan.
    The elephant we all avoid becuase he's such a likeable guy and we all want so badly for him to succeed... but to be honest, I don't see him staying in the nba as a productive member of a team, and that does kill me to say because I've been a huge Nolan fan... But I've been a Nolan fan because of loyalty to the Blazers and how he gets along with the whole team, if he left though, I see a clear improvement in Karl compared to Nolan. Ronnie Price is a very solid backup, but if he gets injured I'm not confident in Nolan.
    And yeah it was one game for Karl. But I've over and over watched Nolan make bad decisions, and not play like a true point guard, qaurterback and leader of the floor. Karl has a feel for the game.

    @Simpson, I agree with all of what you said. Except I truly don't see any way we don't keep Pavlovich. We need bench players who can play excellent D, make some plays here and there, and at least fill a role in a team WITHOUT having a huge gap in some area(s). He's a rare bench guy and adds a lot to any team, he did a lot for an aging and injured Boston team (I would know, I live in the greater Boston area and have unfortunately seen too many Celtics games lol). I would be pretty damn upset if we let him go, let's hope not!!
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  1. Hoop#22
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    Posted 10/20/2012 9:31 AM

    @knorton181   - I agree with Nolan Smith. I seriously doubt in his running team ability and overall efficiency
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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 10/20/2012 10:27 AM

    @knorton181, & I agree w/ u (on Sasha & some points on Nolan).  Don't get me wrong, I wasn't saying I don't want Sasha, I DEFINITELY want to keep him; w/ an injury(ies) to Ronnie, I'm also not yet confident in Nolan to backup Lillard; so IF we only have 1 spot, I think it goes to Karl & Sasha gets pushed out :(  Like I said, IDK how the $/contract stuff works w/ Babbit but if we can trade him ASAP or something to make room for Sasha... all day long!  :)  Again u r right that Nolan still makes quite a few mistakes out there BUT I don't think we should give up on him & I think eventually Nolan will b a good backup (BUT IF somehow we HAD to choose between Karl OR Nolan... I would choose Karl.  I believe we can keep both though ;).
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 10/20/2012 11:29 AM

    If Sasha made that 3 that rimmed out, we win that game last night. I hope we keep him
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 10/20/2012 11:32 AM

    Yeah I get you, totally. Let's hope we can keep the both Karl and Pavlo! I don't see a point in keeping Nolan AND Karl though, we don't need 4 PGs with the way Lillard is running it, not to mention they've even had Will Barton running it, too (just incase injuries and what not).

    I would seriously consider putting Nolan in the D-league (if nobody picks him up off waivers). But I'll give him some more chances for approval before I'd cast him away, time to step it up or step down.

    Agree with Babbitt as well.
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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 10/20/2012 7:44 PM

    @ knorton181, I hear ya man ;)  You're absolutely right, 4 pgs (+ Will THE Thrill distributin' ;) IS a lot but I'm always afraid of injuries (IF Lillard went out... none of the pgs/combination thereof could replace him) & then all of the sudden 3 pgs isn't so many any more.  For guys that can play a pg role (Lillard, Karl, Price, Nolan, Barton), IF we HAD to lose 1 of these guys... I too would drop Nolan; as you've said, it'd b sad to lose him bc of him being such a likable guy but IF that's what we had to do... I'd wish Nolan the best elsewhere ;)  I personally really like the versatility of being able to run 2 of our combo guards in the back court @ the same time (not all the time but as a good way to keep defenders guessing & running ;).  I wanna c Karl & Barton used as combo guards & play along side/promoted to Lillard back ups (& Nolan moved behind Karl & Barton) for @ least a while.

    So like Babbit, I don't know how his $/contract works but IF it comes down to having to dump Nolan to keep Sasha... let's do it (like I said b4 though, IF we can keeps ALL these guys, which I think we can, let's do that; by ~Jan., we should truly know what we've got in Nolan') but I'd STILL rather keep Nolan (@ least for a little while longer ;) & lose Babbit :)
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  1. Simpson
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    Posted 10/20/2012 7:57 PM

    ps Also, I wanna c Holiday play some.  If he shows that he's got some REAL potential to b better than Nolan/good... this would also make it ok to say goodbye to Nolan for me ;)
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 10/21/2012 12:20 AM

    Nolan was a 2 at Duke until Kyrie Irving went down. After that, he ran a college team... sort of. The biggest thing I've noticed holding Nolan back is that he doesn't have a PG's handle. He can see the floor, he knows the sets, he can shoot a decent 3pt percentage and make some good passes, but 80% of the time he dribbles it near the side line, protects the ball from the defender and passes it off to someone else, making it their job to get a shot. I can't think of a time I've seen him get dribble penetration in half-court offense. The only thing he seems to do well at the point is defend the opposing PG. He does put good pressure on the ball, but so does Ronnie. So you can't keep him just for that.

    However, if it's determined that Nolan will not be one of our future PGs, I'm not thinking Coby Karl will be one either. He had a great game, but what I saw was an unknown player taking advantage of the fact that he couldn't be scouted. Once he's on an NBA roster, he'll be hard pressed to have another game like Denver.

    Pavlovic is a must keep in my mind. He can shoot from almost anywhere, he's not afraid of go-ahead shots like Babbitt is, and he plays hard on both sides of the floor unlike Morrison. If it's a wing player that we're keeping, it's gotta be Pavlovic. 
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  1. pioneerfan
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    Posted 10/21/2012 8:15 AM

    Coby!  Coby!  Coby!  When Coby was in the game the Blazers gained ground.  Because of his being around Coach Stotts while growing up he seems to know coach's sets better than anyone.  Even the Denver commentators mentioned it.  Who better to model those sets for all our young players and then lead the second unit when D'Lil needs a rest???  PLEASE keep Coby Karl.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 10/21/2012 11:10 AM

    Nolan's definitely having a tough time running the point with Ronnie Price out. He just looks very indecisive out there, almost like he's trying too hard or over-thinking each play. It's become more apparent that he's a 2-guard, so with Price out, it might make more sense to bring Coby Karl on board. We can't go into the season with just Dame and Ronnie as true point guards on the roster. If either one of them go down for a stretch, we'll be in big trouble.
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 10/21/2012 10:47 PM

    I guess another thought I'll throw out there: given that the culture of Portland basketball is changing, is it still our philosophy to build depth based on the possibility of injury? I still don't think this team is as deep as it needs to be either way, but if we get 3 PGs it can't be in the mindset of injury backup; it needs to be about guards that can play in different situations or that have different specialties.
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 10/22/2012 5:14 PM

    I think depth for injury insurance is why we have our own minor league in the Stampede. I also think it's really unlucky to say injury and Blazers in the same sentence.
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 10/22/2012 5:22 PM

    So what do I do? I say it in the same sentence...my bad!
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 10/22/2012 6:21 PM

    That's exactly why I think the culture has changed. The roster isn't built thinking "well, we sure as hell won't have Brandon or Greg for the whole season." And I think it extends to the unlucky part too. This franchise has held it's breath and hoped that "degenerative knees" would magically disappear for far too long. I'm honestly not thinking about luck or jinxes at this point, because that's not how championship teams do it.
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 10/25/2012 8:56 PM

    I'm not talking season ending. no.. because you're right,we wouldn't win many games with that happening anyways so why plan for season ending injuries if we have a d-league. but i'm talking about the little ankle sprain situations and twisted knee, and broken thumb, etc. This league has the most injuries, and that's not just here in PDX lol.

    But, I've made up my mind after tonight..... I have moved on from Nolan, I don't think he helps our team at all, and adds little to nothing to our bench. Now we haven't seen Karl a lot, but he has shown he can make good decisions and not seem unsure about every play. He has TRUE PG experience. Nolan is trying to lead a team on offense yet has no real experience of doing that and has still yet to gain confidence. He was thrown into it IN THE NBA, that's not easy, and hasn't shown he can do it, nothing against his overall game, but as a PG? he's showing he cannot do it..

    Kind of like: Good luck to all the Austin Rivers fans, he's not a PG, sorry folks. He's a shooting gaurd who can Sometimes run the floor with the team. But not be THE guy to make those decisions. We can see that though because we're not a fan of that team, so we can open our eyes and not get into those dreamy fantasies that fans often do (like us thinking Nolan was going to suddenly turn it on as a PG)
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 10/25/2012 9:25 PM

    Hey Knorton ! That there is the Gospel young man. Nolan is not the one. I think he took the other pill in the Matrix. He looked great in the college atmosphere of the summer league, but here where we wear big boy draws, he crumpled like a Dear John letter. I like Nolan, but at his size, you need to have superior ball handling skills and a jumper. He has neither. There are two things you cant teach in basketball.... height and testicles. If you dont have one, you better damn sure have the other. A center with both those attributes we havent seen in some time,but thats another topic. We're talkin bout Nolan,and all others who need to get rollin'. Babbitt and Nolan are beginning to anger me. I say D League them both and sign Coby Karl to back up Lillard,keep Price as a Price and move Nolan, apick,cash and such to an undersized east coast team that tolerates such foolishness. Jordan refuses to have a seven footer on his team, that might be a good place for him. I know what you're thinking... my God Common is harsh. You bet your banner i am. At some point the mindset of more than competing better get engraived in the minds of our squad. Everybody strives to compete, few strive to win. I dont give an alley oop about spectacular plays or individual accolades. I want us to win. Anything else,caca poo poo. Second is just another way of saying that you are the first to be last. This is Rip City !!!! No Excuses.
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 10/25/2012 10:39 PM

    The irony here is that I think all this Coby Karl hype is the exact starry-eyed fantasy that knorton mentioned. If we are seriously going to waive a contracted player and free up a roster spot for a 3rd backup PG, why would we go for Karl? There are tons of free agents who were never signed this off season, or better yet shop Nolan on the trading market. Swapping Coby for Nolan is a step sideways in my opinion.
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 10/26/2012 9:20 AM

    Having a minor league franchise is relatively new to the NBA. It's where you send potential players to learn your system and work back into the pros. We have 2 or 4 guys who could benefit from some time there and still get back here when they've developed the skillset. Nolan is one of those guys. He's obviously lacking confidence when it counts and was last season as well. Coby Karl and Sasha Pavlovic are NBA ready players and with a young, unproven bench, we need some of those guys. I'd risk Barton to hang around all though he's not polished within the system yet either. Same for Claver. Come trade deadline I think we'll see some propping up of the bench. Meyers Leonard is a guy who for all his talents needs to improve as well but we need his size and athleticism in the front court, mistakes and all. Claver and Freeland will be better as time goes on and both are cheaper than Smith or Babbit. Babbit makes way too much money for what he gives us. Nolan too. People say Nolan is a 2 guard but 2 guards need to shoot well and he doesn't.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 10/26/2012 3:37 PM

    Via Casey-
    Justin Holliday, Coby Karl and Adam Morrison have been informed that they will be waived tomorrow. Best of luck guys. 


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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 10/26/2012 5:40 PM

    Would it be really immature if I said "I told you so"?
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 10/26/2012 9:44 PM

    With Price coming back, Karl would have trouble getting pt guard minutes, he'll be a good backup somewhere else. I'm just thrilled we get to keep Sasha. Morrison never looked motivated to me or at least less motivated than other guys trying to make the cut. I wish them luck although I know nothing about Holliday.
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  1. schwabbii
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    Posted 10/26/2012 11:34 PM

    NOOOO!!! Not Morrison!
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  1. knorton181
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    Posted 10/28/2012 10:46 PM

    @D_Pickett No not immature, but maybe premature.

    Might be too soon for you to say that was the best decision, it makes the most sense in terms of what a GM would do, but may not actually be the best for this team. Unless Nolan steps it up (somehow, because I really don't see that happening) than we will have a gap at backup PG. Not saying Karl was the definite answer, but it nontheless may be the one we look back on at some point and say we wish we did have that certain player.
     
    And again, this isn't planning on a big injury, but this IS saying what is the best player to fit a certain role and step up when needed. They're not just there to look good in seats, or just represent a draft pick. At some point we'll ask Nolan to do something, can he at PG? Still not so sure

    You just never know! (With what Nolan has showed so far, we really don't)
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 10/29/2012 11:34 AM

    I heard Stotts mention that he's trying to work Barton into a pt guard role if needed. Also heard him mention the possiblility of using 2 shooting guards at time on the floor so I doubt injury will be a problem.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 10/29/2012 4:23 PM

    Babbitt he sucks and costs money cut him now
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    Posted 10/29/2012 8:33 PM

    I don't deny that Karl might have been a better 3rd PG than Nolan, but we're talking about exactly that. A 3rd PG. You aren't going to screw with your cap space just to get a guy that played well in a couple preseason games, knowing that his biggest contribution is going to be reserve PG. My point is to get something by trading Nolan if you feel he's not the answer. Don't just waive our 2011 first round pick without getting anything back.

    Just a note on Adam Morrison: I don't have a ton of love for a guy that calls this his "last shot" to get into the NBA and plays half-assed basketball when he gets his chance.

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  1. Employee#17
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    Posted 10/30/2012 9:45 AM

    Not really a tough decision about who to keep. Blazers made the practical and expected moves in waiving the invitees. I don't think they ever had much of a chance to make the team. Rather, they were really trying out to be on the stampede. I am a bit surprised Karl didn't get sent to Idaho....but other than that I agree with D_pickett...were  not going to go through all that trouble for a 3rd string point guard. I think Nolan has had some bad games lately, but I think wel see the guy who showed up at summer league before he got the concussion....hopefully! Go Blazers!
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    Posted 10/30/2012 11:33 AM

    Price will be a great back-up to Lillard. He'll definitely make him better on defense during practices,if Lillard has the aptitude and attitude to get after it on D. I like Nolan, but im waiting for the Nolan that can handle the rock that was breaking ankles at Duke. He's a bit too small to play the two in my opinion. Most of the two guards in the game are 6'4 and better, whos he going to guard on d at the 2 spot ? That only happens if Batum,Wesley or Pavlovic is playing point forward and can guard Nolans man on D. Id love to try and pry Gerald henderson off of the Bobcats for Babbitt and Nolan.
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 10/30/2012 11:06 PM

    I'd like that move, common, especially without Elliot this year. It does seem like Henderson's stock has gone up while Luke and Nolan's has dropped a bit, so Charlotte might not go for it.
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