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  1. abarrer3
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    Posted 07/30/2012 10:41 AM

    I have always believed that this divison is one of the strongest, and in my opinion, just got a lot stronger. I still believe that OKC has a strong leg up on the rest, but there is a huge log jam for the second spot, especially between Portland, Minnesota, and Denver.



    1. Oklahoma City Thunder- Too strong; reached the finals last year and did not lose any key players to free agency. Just a lot of star power quality that cannot be matched.



    2. Minnesota Timberwolves- Maybe a shock to some, but I think if Minnesota can keep Kevin Love out of a "Dwightmare", then I think they have a good shot at the playoffs. They made a lot of good moves this offseason.



    3. Portland Trail Blazers- We may not have the big name guys that OKC or Minnesota have, but what we do have is depth. I think our stars in Aldridge and Batum, depth with Freeland, Hickson, Claver, and Elliot Williams, along with the development of our rookies, can slip us into the playoffs.



    4. Denver Nuggets- Along with OKC, didn't lose many players this offseason, but I just dont see them advancing as great, and see Javale McGee slumping back into his Wizards mentality.



    5. Utah Jazz- Had a surprise season last year and got the 8th seed in the playoffs, but moved there starting point guard for yet another forward on their roster. I think Al Jefferson and Paul Millsap will be moved at some point and Utah will drop to the bottom of the ranks in the west.

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  1. FoulWeatherFan
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    Posted 07/30/2012 11:47 AM

    I agree. The Southwest and Atlantic Divisions are very strong too. Maybe more top heavy but each have one scrub team at the bottom. If you think about it we only have one real contender in our division, OKC. I think that Boston/Brooklyn/New York, and Dallas/Memphis/San Antonio are all teams that can compete for a championship, if a few of those teams can put together the talent they have. I think everyone besides OKC in our division is a borderline playoff team.
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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 07/30/2012 1:16 PM

    i think denver is not in our division
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 07/30/2012 2:29 PM

    Denver is in our Division.
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  1. true_blazerfan
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    Posted 07/30/2012 3:01 PM

    D. Lilliard is one of the oakland boys (j. kidd, g. payton, B. shaw) in the nba and all three of them won a ring and two future HOF and so i believe his will has a promising future especaillly having a better scoring ability than all of them so with him and LA leading the way with batum mattews and jj around i believe that we can take back over our division very soon!
  1. riverman
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    Posted 07/30/2012 7:18 PM

    I think it has yet to be seen which is the strongest in the upcoming season.
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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 07/31/2012 12:30 AM

    We were supposed to be the #2 team in our division last year. We would've finished last if Minnesota hadn't gone on an 11 game losing skid. I won't make any predictions about where the Blazers will finish in the NW Division. I will say that all the teams in our division have made some good adjustments, and I wouldn't be suprised if all 5 NW Division teams are above .500 next season.
    I am a fan of multiple All-Stars on the Blazers roster this season!
  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 07/31/2012 9:39 AM

    From top to bottom our division is the toughest. OKC, Denver and Utah all have to be favorites ahead of us as they each are coming off of playoff appearances and each got better this offseason. And if Ricky Rubio stays healthy, the Wolves could be in the playoff hunt as well.
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  1. benh7777
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    Posted 07/31/2012 11:54 AM

    I would rate it,

    1. OKC
    2. Utah
    3. Denver
    4. Minnesota
    5. Portland

    Not trying to be negative, just realistic. If Denver and Minnesota struggle then Portland has a chance to get 3rd if they pull things together and play well together. I think Minnesota is kinda the unknown here, they could end up 2nd but who knows, they could end up last just as easy.

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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 07/31/2012 12:32 PM

    Portland will pull thing together by the end of the season. i think we still could be in the playoff if all of our starter have at least 20 point season but i would accept if meyers have a 10 point 10 rebound season
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  1. benh7777
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    Posted 07/31/2012 3:16 PM

    If all of our starters had at least a  20 point per game season then they would go undefeated.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 07/31/2012 3:42 PM

    Lol all starters 20 ppg !?!?! We can be better than Minn if Lillard can avg 15-16 pts and we are healthy for most of the season.
    OKC is OKC...lucky bastards.

    Denver is a really good team and they are getting a great player in Wilson Chandler back.

    If we can beat Utah and Minn then we can make 7-8 seed. Minn lost one of their key players in MBeasely. And Rubio is injured, hopefully they wont do too good.

     Utah has the best chance to be 3rd in division because Burks is getting better and they signed Foye. Unless they do a trade with Milsap or AlJ then I think they are probably going to have a better season than PDX sadly.

    Maybe Memphis becomes garbage again lololol. Zach didnt look so good at the end of last playoffs and they lost a great player in Mayo. There is a chance they fall back to 6-12 range again hopefulllllly lol.
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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 07/31/2012 4:33 PM

    maybe DAMIAN will see this post and agreed with me
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  1. mbmurr1
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    Posted 08/03/2012 1:03 PM

    I would love to see us go deep into the playoffs this season. With the guys we have it is possible, we will see as the season progresses.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 08/03/2012 6:10 PM

    Posted By DHawes22 on 07/31/2012 9:39 AM
    From top to bottom our division is the toughest. OKC, Denver and Utah all have to be favorites ahead of us as they each are coming off of playoff appearances and each got better this offseason. And if Ricky Rubio stays healthy, the Wolves could be in the playoff hunt as well.


    The key word here is healthy. Thats the thing about sports teams, one injury to a key contributor could set a franchise back seasons. God forbid something happens to Durant, or Kobe, or Lawson, Utah cant afford to lose anybody in their starting line-up. Especially the kid that i think is a beast, Gordon Haywood. The most well rounded squad in the west to me has always been the Spurs. They've shown an uncanny ability to adapt.
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 08/03/2012 6:58 PM

    Like to add that I'm actually glad our rookies are going into the season facing top tier talent. They still have confidence coming into the league and I think they can carry that into the NBA game. I think Lillard, Leonard and Barton are guys with natural swagger. They won't get the calls as rookies but will wear down some of the old vets and pick up some tricks along the way. Although he gets no ink over the last couple of seasons, I think Elliot Williams is our X factor and has a superstar game. JJ Hickson is another guy due to have a breakout season. Batum needs to up his game to match his paycheck and probably will give it a shot. Wesley and LaMarcus will benefit from  having Freeland and Leonard in the post and Lillard handling the rock. I'm really used to the Blazers going into the season under the radar. Way back in the day, Sheed was always allstar quality and snubbed year after year. Shaq said he was a guy he hated to play and never got his due...LaMarcus is the next Tim Duncan and this guy is a quiet storm. I'm lovin' the new look Blazers and think it's a year built for surprises and a possible run to the second round of the playoffs. Minnesota and OKC are the arch rivals this season. On paper we can beat Utah and Denver...maybe even New Orleans. Both LA squads are stacked. Phoenix and Houston should be beatable. Golden State and Sac should as well. Memphis is a problem matchup as are the Spurs, Nets and Heat. It's going to be a fun season of basketball for sure
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 08/03/2012 6:58 PM

    I see things shaping up much the way benh7777 does, being a lotto team once again.  Not the worst thing in the world long-term...unless your name is LaMarcus Aldridge.  If this years draft is even slightly indicative of the level of decision making on draft day we can expect in the future, another lottery year and some patience is fine with me.  I would argue that this team may not be being built around LA anymore.
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  1. DamianLilard
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    Posted 08/04/2012 8:30 PM

    i totally agreed with you hundred percent at riverman
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 08/06/2012 9:59 AM

    To me, it doesn't matter if we finish 3rd or 5th as long as the rookies are showing progression and we continue to improve. This season is not about wins and losses, it's about setting our team up for multiple deep playoff runs in the coming years.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 08/06/2012 10:31 AM

    That is noble Dustin but it really does matter where we finish, I do not know about you but I was told this would be a retool and not a rebuild. A retool leaves in contention for a playoff spot, a rebuild has us back in the lottery. 
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 08/06/2012 11:10 AM

    Play together, play hard,play consistently, and good things will happen.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 08/06/2012 11:17 AM

    Is being back in the lottery really the worst place to be though? I would love to add a Top 5 pick along with Lillard and Leonard and start really making hay. This season reminds of me 06-07 when Brandon and LaMarcus were rookies. A lot of highs, some lows, and we ended up sixth heading into the lottery before winning it.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 08/06/2012 5:39 PM

    Too bad there wont be another Durant available.
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  1. benh7777
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    Posted 08/07/2012 3:33 PM

    Posted By DHawes22 on 08/06/2012 11:17 AM
    Is being back in the lottery really the worst place to be though? I would love to add a Top 5 pick along with Lillard and Leonard and start really making hay. This season reminds of me 06-07 when Brandon and LaMarcus were rookies. A lot of highs, some lows, and we ended up sixth heading into the lottery before winning it.

    I totally agree, to add another lottery pick would not be the worst thing. In fact in the long run looking ahead 2-3 years it would be the best thing for us. Being a small market team and with the new cba salary restrictions coming, the best way, and maybe the only way, to build a playoff team is through the draft. We got an excellent start this year. Get a season under our belt and then add another lottery pick next year things will be looking bright in the coming years.

    There's plenty to be excited about with this team, but let's not set our expectations too high, it takes time to become a contender. It took OKC 4 years to get there, and that was pretty quick. We got a jump on it with what we already had in place plus adding Lillard and Leonard.
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 08/07/2012 6:25 PM

    Yeah 1 more lottery would be good as long as Olshey is our GM!! :D

     He had a fantastic draft this year. I hear the draft wont be as good as last time. I doubt were going to draft another starter. If we can draft a good SF to back up Batum. Babbit isn't working lol. That is the only position we really need to upgrade on. We just need our players to develop. Once Damian, Meyers, Batum, EWill, and Wes grow together we will be fine. We have a strong nucleus of young players. I can see us being at the top of the West in 2-3 years. 
    BUT we should have the mind set the OKC has been having. Why wait???? When they drafted Russel and Harden, and Ibaka they thought why wait for 3-4 years to be contenders. We have a star like they do in LA. 
    Aldridge, Batum, Lillard, Meyers can be the new Harden, KD, Russel, Ibaka.

     Not as good as them, but this core has the potential to be one of the better core of many teams in the West.

    Im predicting right now that POR will be trading there 2013 first round pick. 
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 08/07/2012 11:23 PM

    Trading a lottery pick for this team would be foolish
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 08/08/2012 12:16 AM

    Yeah but It the draft is getting compared to the 2000 draft. That is saying something. However, I dont watch college basketball lol. The pick is going to be around 11-14.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 08/08/2012 9:09 AM

    Where have you seen the 2000 comparison? I certainly see a lot of talent in this draft especially in the top 15.
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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 08/08/2012 9:27 AM

    Fans that are hoping for the lottery is just plain WEAKMINDED and USELESS... We made the playoffs with Miller not too long ago and played the World Champs that year as good as any team in the playoffs.

    Team ball was not our strong suit last year with Crawford jacking up 38% shots, Felton's horrible horrible guard play, and GWall wanting out and taking nights off on the road are all gone, Nate being Nate... no wonder we totally collapsed.  We cleaned out the garbage and added the premier piece to any good TEAM... a elite point guard.

    I think our new TEAM will gel quicker than you think with improved guard play and we will finish 49-33 and finish second in the division 
    OKC
    Portland
    Minny
    Denver
    Utah

    I know many of you think I'm crazy homer but i have a golden rule, without a solid point guard you have no chance to win.... kinda like last year

    Its a new year filled with HOPE not Lotto tickets... and Lillard is the biggest reason to have HOPE

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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 08/08/2012 12:16 PM

    Totally agree with D Licious!!!!!! This team can be better then the team we last got to the playoffs with!





    @Cmeese
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/name/nba_draft/id/8111253/an-early-look-2013-nba-draft

    "The 2013 draft is so devoid of top returning underclassmen and has such a marginal freshman class, one NBA scout said our 2013 Top 100 list may be the weakest since the dreaded 2000 NBA draft (check out our 2013 draft homepage here).

    When you remember that the best prospect out of the 2000 draft was 46th pick Michael Redd, you get a picture of what we might be in for."

    Im not trying to argue. You obviously know wayyy more about college basketball than me. I just follow drafts by articles. Which isnt the best thing to do lol. Your probably right but this is just 1 article I found. 


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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 08/08/2012 12:16 PM

    Totally agree with D Licious!!!!!! This team can be better then the team we last got to the playoffs with!





    @Cmeese
    http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/name/nba_draft/id/8111253/an-early-look-2013-nba-draft

    "The 2013 draft is so devoid of top returning underclassmen and has such a marginal freshman class, one NBA scout said our 2013 Top 100 list may be the weakest since the dreaded 2000 NBA draft (check out our 2013 draft homepage here).

    When you remember that the best prospect out of the 2000 draft was 46th pick Michael Redd, you get a picture of what we might be in for."

    Im not trying to argue. You obviously know wayyy more about college basketball than me. I just follow drafts by articles. Which isnt the best thing to do lol. Your probably right but this is just 1 article I found. 


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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 08/08/2012 12:30 PM

    Miller           Lillard
    Matthews     Matthews
    Wallace        Batum
    LA                LA
    Camby           Freeland

    Injured Roy      ElliotW
    Fernandez        Claver
    Batum              Hickson
    Mills                 Nolan
    Joel                  Meyers

    Our current starting line up is better than that starting line-up. With Batum 2 years older he is better than 2010 Gerald Wallace. LA has definitely got better. Lillard is going to be offensively better than Miller. Freeland might be a upgrade over Camby. Matthews did not play as good as he did that season.

    I dont know how are bench has changed. We now have JJ Hickson and who is better than Batum was at that time. Fernandez might have been better than Elliot/Barton. But none of those guys really played yet. I also dont know how to judge Joel vs Meyers.

    That Blazer team record was 48/34. This was 6th in the Western Conference and 3rd in the NorthWest Division. Lets see if our new team can be better than this one.

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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 08/08/2012 3:55 PM

    Sorry got disagree Miller is better than Lillard although I think Damian will improve a lot this season.
    Freeland will be fine but Camby was one of the leagues best rebounders and was still an excellent defender.
    LA now is better than that LA but I do not know by how much.
    Batum is offensively better than Wallace was but he is not a better overall player.
    That Matthews was more consistent than last years so I fail to see the upgrades.

    Hopefully our bench will be better but that won't get us 48 wins. 
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 08/08/2012 4:19 PM

    Well lets see how this team compares.  Lets see how we do under a new coach. We do have 7-8 new rotation players from that year. 
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  1. Siccolo
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    Posted 08/08/2012 4:19 PM

    Well lets see how this team compares.  Lets see how we do under a new coach. We do have 7-8 new rotation players from that year. 
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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 08/11/2012 11:24 AM

    I think the NW division will be: OKC, Denver, Minnesota, Utah, Portland.  Just trying to be realistic.  Rookies need to go through a learning curve.  We will be lucky to be 5wins, 9 losses in the first 14 games.  Not trying to put a damper on the rest of you but looking at the schedule and the teams we will play this would be my guess.  When I look at how other first rounders faired in the first year of their development it does not look too good for our rookies in the short term. 
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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 08/11/2012 11:54 AM

    The other divisions: Lakers, Clippers, Warriors, Kings, Suns and Spurs, Memphis, Dallas, Houston, NO Hornets.  anyone have any thoughts on these two divisions?  Okc, Denver, Minn, Utah, Portland, how does Portland fair in this set up.  I say Portland is #8 to #9 when comparing with all West divisions. 
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 08/15/2012 5:33 PM

    Posted By Siccolo on 08/08/2012 12:16 AM
    Yeah but It the draft is getting compared to the 2000 draft. That is saying something. However, I dont watch college basketball lol. The pick is going to be around 11-14.
    It's not even September yet. That's way too early to claim a draft will be strong or weak in my opinion. On paper, it looks weaker than usual. But we haven't seen any of these Freshmen play, yet. Who knows, there could be some real head-turners. Who would have guess Lillard would have went 6th this  time last year? A lot can happen between now and June.

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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 08/15/2012 5:36 PM

    Posted By Ricky on 08/11/2012 11:24 AM
    I think the NW division will be: OKC, Denver, Minnesota, Utah, Portland.  Just trying to be realistic.  Rookies need to go through a learning curve.  We will be lucky to be 5wins, 9 losses in the first 14 games.  Not trying to put a damper on the rest of you but looking at the schedule and the teams we will play this would be my guess.  When I look at how other first rounders faired in the first year of their development it does not look too good for our rookies in the short term. 

    That's how I'm thinking it plays out as well. And that's not a bad thing, either. Sure, no one wants to finish last but we are in easily the toughest division in the entire NBA where as many as four teams could make  the playoffs. Like I've said, this season is not about wins and losses. It's all about the development of our young core, spring boarding us into the years to come.
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  1. cmeese47
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    Posted 08/16/2012 7:55 AM

    Basically without a healthy Rubio Minnesota could finish 5th he is their most important piece. Otherwise anything better than a last place finish for this team would be a minor miracle. 

    OKC is obviously a title contender
    Denver is super deep offensive juggernaut who might be much better on defense with Iguodala
    Utah was a playoff team last year and Mo Williams looks to be an upgrade over Harris.
    Minnesota was on pace for a playoff birth until injuries struck. AK-47 is a major addition to this team and if B-Roy is partially healthy this team will be tough again provided Rubio is back.
    Portland is too young with three positions that do not have quality depth. 
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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 08/16/2012 8:14 PM

    Posted By Siccolo on 08/08/2012 12:30 PM
    Miller           Lillard
    Matthews     Matthews
    Wallace        Batum
    LA                LA
    Camby           Freeland

    Injured Roy      ElliotW
    Fernandez        Claver
    Batum              Hickson
    Mills                 Nolan
    Joel                  Meyers

    Our current starting line up is better than that starting line-up. With Batum 2 years older he is better than 2010 Gerald Wallace. LA has definitely got better. Lillard is going to be offensively better than Miller. Freeland might be a upgrade over Camby. Matthews did not play as good as he did that season.

    I dont know how are bench has changed. We now have JJ Hickson and who is better than Batum was at that time. Fernandez might have been better than Elliot/Barton. But none of those guys really played yet. I also dont know how to judge Joel vs Meyers.

    That Blazer team record was 48/34. This was 6th in the Western Conference and 3rd in the NorthWest Division. Lets see if our new team can be better than this one.


    Nice comparisons Siccolo.... I have the same vision for this years team, I do think our bench could be better too... Hickson was a very underrated deal we inked and if we can get Leonard to defend the rim we will battle.  I'm down with 48 wins... I wonder what the odds are in Vegas for team with largest improvement, I think Portland could go +20 from 28 to 48
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  1. D Licious
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    Posted 08/16/2012 8:21 PM

    Is Derrick Rose better than Miller??

    Cuz I see Lillard in that class for rookie play maybe better efficiency rating when its all said and done than Rose too.  
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 08/16/2012 8:29 PM

    Excellent vision in fact. I remember a time,brief as it was, that this team played for eachother. Its going to take that same effort to accomplish your projection Siccolo.
    I am a fan of our new roster playing with and for eachother.
  1. Sean Blaser
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    Posted 08/16/2012 10:25 PM

    Talent wise we could but i dont see it happening with a rookie pg starting and getting alot of minutes hes gonna be tired this season will be to get his stamina up and to focus on ddevelopment also i think we gotta see what were working with before we make a strong push for the playoffs
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