Analyzing 2012-2013 Salary Cap of $61M YOU be the GM oh wait we dont have one!
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  1. BlazerManiac
    Posts: 777

    Posted 03/19/2012 4:27 PM

    Looking at what we have committed on the books for 2012-2013 Season, The Trail Blazers have the following under contract for 2012-2013:

    Information comes from the following link:

    Aldridge                               $13M

    Matthews                           $6,505,320

    Babbitt                                 $1,892,280

    Williams                              $1,442,880

    Smith                                    $1,404,960


    Total on the books of     $24,245,440


    Team Options


    Thabeet                               $6,471,182

    Flynn                                     $4,329,864


    Total Team Options        $10,801,046


    Player Options

    Crawford                             $5,000,000

    Total Player Options      $5,000,000

    Total Potential Salaries for 2012-2013                                    $40,046,486

    I see us keeping Przbilla or Thomas for $1,500,000 (both for 2.5M) and I figure it is going to take at least $8m to sign Batum.  Felton is not under contract next season (Thank God), and I do not see the Blazers Keeping Johnny Flynn.  So in looking at all this, it looks like the Blazers could make a great run at Derron Thomas and maybe look at Thabeet as the center of the future.

    Looking at all the scenarios above (including signing Batum for $8M and keeping both Prz and Thomas) and also Crawford exercising his $5M Option, that would give us about $12M to go after Deron Williams without going above the Salary Cap.  Ask Thabeet to renegotiate his contract to a less dollar amount and we could have more. 

    There again we would have more if Paul Allen would pay Luxury Taxes.

    Your Thoughts?


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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posts: 1669

    Posted 03/19/2012 6:30 PM

    Dan Dickau is smart, put him in charge.
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  1. freddead
    Posts: 321

    Posted 03/20/2012 1:07 AM

    i dont think pryz has another year in him i already see him favoring his knee again and kurt idk he could be around another year but after this years fiasco i kinda doubt it i want felton back if he keeps playing like he is ill tell you that much
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  1. Blazer247
    Posts: 591

    Posted 03/20/2012 12:14 PM

    WORD Freddead. "I want Felton back if he keeps playing like he is I'll tell you that much" couldn't agree more. And I think he's gonna play even BETTER than he has the last few games.

    People love to scapegoat the point guards. In sports or any other situation, it's so easy to point fingers at the guy at the helm. I think it's important to remember that when it comes to Felton's assist/turnover numbers early in the season, his stats are completely reliant on his teammates having higher field goal %, and not losing the ball themselves. On top of that, he has steadily improved from that slump we saw after the first few games. He's making better passes (that teammates are paying attention to), fewer turnovers, and he's driving to the hoop more than any other player in our backcourt AND more than some in our frontcourt (ALDRIDGE!!! Grow some cajones dude, and stop with the fadeaway jumpers you are a POWER FORWARD now play like one).

    Felton was a smart pickup. On paper he's equivalent or better than Andre was, across the board. What I see as the largest factor in his bad rep in Portland is because we picked him up for a short season... Anytime you are going to change the leader of your team, it's not going to be the smoothest transition. That's going to be even less smooth when the new leader doesn't have time to settle in with his teammates.
    In the last couple seasons, our team has been led by Miller, Roy, Miller again, Aldridge with a lil Roy and Miller, Aldridge, Felton, Crawford, and now Felton again. If we had had the time to bring Felton and Crawford in to a training camp before this season, in addition to having more practices with them to fine tune the necessary adjustments, we would never have had all these doubts about our new squad.

    I'm not trying to use "what ifs" as an excuse for Felton. I'm just trying to say, for so many reasons, you need to take this season with a grain of salt. Especially for new players, and especially for a new starting point guard who is expected to lead your franchise. What, you really think Jonny Flynn is gonna come in to town and his first games are going to be that much better than Felton's first games? Of course not. PG's always take a period of adjustment, and this year we've forced Felton to do that on the fly, during games. The good news is now, we're seeing glimpses of what he can do, and after the offseason and a few weeks of legit practices, he'll be at a different level next year than anything we've gotten from him yet.
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  1. TJ31
    Posts: 190

    Posted 03/20/2012 4:53 PM

    First off, re-sign Batum at any cost..  could see a 5 yr contract starting at $10M and getting ore expensive as the years go.  thats $34M right there.  Gonna have to decline Thabeets option but we could resign him for minumin (all he should get).  I would trade Wesley while hes tradeable as I don't think hes our starting SG for the future, along with that he has a terrible contract and not much upside.  I say trade him back to the Jazz where he started his career.  We would also trade our pick which would be around 12th-14th and could use him to upgrade our pick ad get a 7th or 8th overall pick.  So Then wed be down to $28M with two picks around 4th to 8th.  I the draft take best available.  If we have the 4th or 5th pick we would go with Drummond (but if he's taking maybe harrison barnes or michael gilchrist?).  Then with the 8th pick we would get our PG in Damian Lillard for Weber St.  With those picks your looking at maybe $6M total for the first year.  Salary back up to $34.  With that we would have nearly $25M in cap space.  In free agency we looks for a starting wing, as trading Wesley is easy bcause of the starting wings out there.  We would end up targeting:

    Eric Gordon, SG

    OJ Mayo, SG

    Wilson Chandler, SF

    Gerald Wallace, SF

    If we picked up a SF we could always move Batum over to SG where I thought he was playing his best basketball.

    Best case scenario would be getting Eric Gordon, as he is only 23 years old and averaged 22 ppg with 4.5 ast last season (injured this year).  We would have to sign him to a max contract but we'd still have around $8M left in cap (probably more).  With the remaining $ left we would look for a backup post:

    PF Carl Landry

    C Chris Kaman

    C Spencer Hawes

    C Mehnet Okur

    I would think we would go with Landry first and then try and re-sign Pryz to mentor Drummond.  It would be nice to have a shooter off the bench that we could sign with our MLE, maybe someone like a CJ Miles.







    4 of our starters would be 23 years old or younger, 2 of them are all-star caliber (Gordon and Aldridge), one of them has the potential to be one soon (Batum), and Lillard and Drummond are great pickups in the draft who could become stars themselves in the future.  With this lineup we would have a chance at home court NEXT year while the team would only continue to get better

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  1. schwabbii
    Posts: 205

    Posted 03/20/2012 6:29 PM

    With everyone bringing up Deron Williams as a big signing, I honestly do not want him on the team. I went to a couple of games when he was with the Jazz and all he did was complain about the calls and it didn't seem as though he cared all that much. He is a great player, but for that kind of money, I want someone who will be dedicated.
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  1. TJ31
    Posts: 190

    Posted 03/20/2012 9:06 PM

    He is dedicated..  If you want a championship youd realize that you want him on your team
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  1. commontongue
    Posts: 1864

    Posted 03/20/2012 9:56 PM

    Gospel TJ31. He's from Dallas,as is L.A.. Lets try it.

    I am a fan of our new roster playing with and for eachother.
  1. cmeese47
    Posts: 2735

    Posted 03/21/2012 4:14 PM

    What does Portland need? Well pretty much everything at this point. The last 20 some games will tell us how good or bad Babbit, and Smith are. They are both under contract for next year but if they can fit into the rotation we can avoid looking for depth at their positions in FA. 

    Step One is obviously offering Deron Williams a max deal. He will likely sign with Dallas or somewhere else but we need to at least make the offer. 

    If Deron signs we are set but assuming he does not PG should remain a priority. I would make a significant offer to Jeremy Lin mostly just to force the Knicks to overpay. I would do the same for George Hill in Indiana. I would offer around 6 mil a season for either Guard. I do not see the Knicks or Pacers willing to lose either but either would be a worthy gamble. Outside of those players the best we can hope for is a stop gap PG. First on my list would be Nash but how much he will command could be an issue. I think J. Kidd will likely be the cheaper option. Or Portland should consider taking a flyer on C Billups if he is healthy. Other options include bring back Felton or resigning Andre Miller. Portland has to be cautious to not over spend here if they fail to get someone like Deron or Nash. 

    I sign Nash for a 2 year deal @ 10 mil per with a team option for beyond next season. 

    I like Batum but there is no way I pay him anywhere close to 10 mil a season. In fact I would not offer any of this years SG's 10 mil per with Gordon being the closest to that level. I would like to see Batum resigned for Matthews money somewhere around 6.5 per and no more than 8.5. If not Matthews would step in and start at the 2 with E Williams backing him up not exactly a terrible back up plan. 

    Gerald Wallace will likely opt-in this summer. Which really limits the SF free agent pool. I think Portland should offer someone like G Hill or M Barnes a contract around 3 mil per this off-season. 

    We have now spent around 22 mil leaving us around 9 mil under the cap if S Williams opts-in and 4 mil under if Crawford does the same. Ideally neither will opt-in and we will have around 12 mil left. I would make Ryan Anderson a nice offer of around 6 mil to come play for us but Orlando would likely match that. So I would like to see Portland spent around 4-5 mil and sign someone like Brandon Bass or M Speights. Someone who will bring a little toughness to this team. 

    After signing one of them Portland looks to have 4-5 mil left in cap room. This is probably best spent on Rookies and to resign Przybilla. 
    I am a fan of Getting Defensive Players This Summer.
  1. BlazerManiac
    Posts: 777

    Posted 03/21/2012 8:40 PM

    With Batum, he will without a doubt be signed to an offer sheet just like Mathews was.  Wise choice would be to see what that comes in at if he does not agree for $7.5M.  If the offer sheet is for much more than that let him go.

    The number one need we have is PG and also a strong durable Center.  Thabeet would be good if we can get him to re-structure his contract and this would allow us to keep Prz and Thomas and let him get about 10-15 mins per game and develop.

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  1. TJ31
    Posts: 190

    Posted 03/21/2012 9:06 PM

    cmeese Batum is going to be signed for more than 6 mil.  so your suggesting letting him go and most likely ending up with an old pg (kidd nash billups or miller) and then just signing a backup PF?  That wouldn't bring us closer t a championship and would slow down the rebuilding process.  If we can't find a good pickup I say keep the $20M in cap room for next year and, even though we'd tank the next season, we'd get young players lots of PT, have a top draft pick, and would still be able to sign an all-star...  no point to be stuck with Nash at $10M for 2 years, that doesn't help us go anywhere

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  1. jamsmashers
    Posts: 297

    Posted 03/21/2012 9:48 PM

    sign brooks

    draft barnes

    draft zeller

    resig priz, batum hickson

    trade mathews for cj miles and a future second rd pick

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  1. Blazer247
    Posts: 591

    Posted 03/22/2012 2:10 PM

    I like Jamsmashers' basic plan but not sold on a few things, there's just too many variables dependent on this season/audition:

    Keep Crawford and let him adjust to Portland for more than a short season... That way we can forget one of the draftees or Miles (see below)

    Smith is proving to be more of a combo guard than a pure pg, so give Felton more time to prove whether or not we should keep him... but still go after Brooks (we're not getting Deron, people!) or see how Flynn pans out as another guard backup.

    I'm not convinced that Thabeet isn't just a late-bloomer. He's got height and raw talent, now he just needs some NBA educating. Worth seeing what happens this season or in the offseason, especially if we can get a good price.


    (Brooks or Felton)/(Felton or Flynn)/Smith
    Crawford/Williams/(Smith again)
    Batum/(Miles or draft)
    (Trade or draft)/(Thabeet)/Przybilla

    Somewhere in there is a 13man roster that is VERY achievable for Portland next year :)
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 03/22/2012 2:48 PM

    You gotta get a near star player in this free agent class or save cap space for next year to make a run at someone..
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  1. cmeese47
    Posts: 2735

    Posted 03/22/2012 5:36 PM

    You missed the part where I signed Nash with a Team Option for the second year of the deal. Giving us a chance of going after someone like Steph Curry or Chris Paul in 2013. I also was flexible up to 8.5 mil a year for Batum but he is not a 10 mil a year player and if we sign him for that much we are also killing our rebuilding process. You also forget that if we tank next year we get nothing since we gave up our 1st round pick for Wallace. It also makes it easier to sign quality Free Agents when you make the Playoffs and with Nash this team should be able to do that. 
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  1. TJ31
    Posts: 190

    Posted 03/22/2012 6:55 PM

    I see your point but Nash would want to go to a contender not a team starting to rebuild.  He already has that in phoenix
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