Report: Trail Blazers Pursuing Steve Nash
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/29/2012 12:20 PM


    Via Marc Stein-
     There are a couple voices out there on the NBA grapevine cautioning that the Suns are listening to Nash pitches more than they're letting on, but the overwhelming majority of insiders surveyed by ESPN.com in recent days continue to insist that Nash is going nowhere.
     That's despite the fact that the Blazers, sources say, are still trying hard to pry Nash away from the Suns. RealGM.com, meanwhile, reported Sunday that the Magic likewise want to try to acquire Nash before the deadline as a means of appeasing Howard.
     "Portland," says one source close to the situation, "has been interested in Nash for a while."
     Yet even if the Blazers were willing to include the widely coveted Nicolas Batum in a package for Nash -- which is a matter of debate depending on who's doing the gossiping -- sources say Phoenix continues to put out the message that it won't deal Nash unless Nash asks to be traded. Which is something Nash has consistently said he won't do.
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    And Steve Nash threw his two cents in on the rumors of him being traded to the Portland Trail Blazers


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  1. abarrer3
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    Posted 02/29/2012 3:29 PM

    Great finds. My only problem with acquring Nash is tha he is 38, and although he may still have years left in him, giving batum in a package deal, when he is only 23 and has tremendous upside, is a risk for the blazers because this seems like a win now move. I for one would not push a Nash trade if it involves Batum. No go for me...
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  1. shynz0r
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    Posted 02/29/2012 4:49 PM

    I love Nash to death but if Batum is part of the deal I say no.  What I'm secretly scared of is Matthews ending up in this mix.  He may have lost his starting spot to Batum but he's a damn work horse and he's a talented player.  If this goes down I feel like I'll end up with a lot of mixed emotions.  Pretty much the same way I felt when Miller, Dante and Joel were traded. 



    Ultimately I feel the whole change in our offense has resulted in this lackluster season.  Don't get me wrong, I love the fast play and it's a breath of fresh air but in this shortened season?  I'm surprised there aren't more discussions about the inconsistent play being a result of an uptempo offense when three games in four nights aren't uncommon.  I don't think this season(team record) is in any way a reflection on the ability of this roster to perform at high levels.  I think the single biggest issue is an entirely different offensive plan compounded by new members and a compressed season. 



    And that brings me back around to trade discussions and rumors.  How do you let brilliant pieces of the puzzle go when their ability to grow and perform is stunted by circumstance?  Not talent.  Not athleticism.  Not potential or fan love.  But by the simple fact that circumstance has dictated their underwhelming performance.  That is the exact damn reason Greg Oden is still on the roster.  And that's what makes Portland fans so special.  Because in spite of all the crap that befalls our team, and as a result us, we consider the human aspect of it all.  The empathetic point of view.  Not all of us are concerned with empathy or humanity.  But most of us care.



    So if we end up with Nash, and part of me hopes we do, we'll be left with the sting of what we gave up.  We'd grow to love Nash just about like any other player who sports the jersey.  But whoever we give up in the trade will be a Blazer for life.  Portland may play well over the next couple weeks but if a big trade goes down it'll be an emotional experience for us fans.  It virtually always is.
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  1. stacksfan2005
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    Posted 02/29/2012 7:15 PM

    id give up felton or matthews for nash, yes matthews works hard but he hasn't come out of his shooting slump and he's had half a season. besides it would make room for eliot to get more minutes, and though i love matthews i think eliot has a chance to be special. nash to eliot nash to aldridge nash to batum nash to wallace. it would make paul to griffen look like more of a joke than it already is.

    you absolutely can't get rid of batum for nash. sorry but batum and aldridge are the future of this franchise whether you win now or rebuild they are too important.
  1. barnettfan
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    Posted 02/29/2012 7:25 PM

    No
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  1. noahvagle
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    Posted 03/01/2012 3:40 AM

    Trade Batum and sign him in the offseason?
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 03/01/2012 11:19 AM

    If Nic is part of this deal, I will not be renewing.  I had Ty Lawson and Kenneth Faried on my draft board and both were available when Portland selected.  To say the decision making has been flawed as of late is to redefine the word understatement.  Beyond frustrated.


    Incidentally, how did those two fellas play last night?
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  1. Kelbo11
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    Posted 03/01/2012 2:01 PM

    It should be Ray Felton and Wallace for Nash and Childress( Giving up Wallace is way better than giving up Batum even though Wallace a best..only at home though)  Or Ray Felton and Wes for Nash. Then sign Patrick Mills( Bias most likely, I love Patty Mills.
  1. schwabbii
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    Posted 03/01/2012 2:06 PM

    If they do a trade at all to get Nash then I will be upset. I mean really? He is 38 years old! Even if we were to get him for a decent price, what would come of it? I don't really see Nash being the difference maker between barely making the playoffs and being a championship contender. Just doesn't make sense to be so near-sided. 
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  1. JonnyBoyHardy
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    Posted 03/01/2012 2:11 PM

    Giving up Batum would be an awful mistake!
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 03/01/2012 2:40 PM

    Posted By BDawg on 03/01/2012 11:19 AM
    If Nic is part of this deal, I will not be renewing.  I had Ty Lawson and Kenneth Faried on my draft board and both were available when Portland selected.  To say the decision making has been flawed as of late is to redefine the word understatement.  Beyond frustrated.


    Incidentally, how did those two fellas play last night?
    I don't want to rub salt in the wound but we also traded Rudy Fernandez for the rights to Jordan Hamilton as well...and sent him off in the Felton package. Hamilton looks like he is going to be one heckuva player. You know those players who you see out there and they just look like they belong? Well, he's easily one of them.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 03/01/2012 2:45 PM

    Posted By JonnyBoyHardy on 03/01/2012 2:11 PM
    Giving up Batum would be an awful mistake!
    As I said in another post, if we get Phoenix's unprotected first-round pick for this year's draft, I would be OK if we included Batum. Phoenix's pick would be 7-9 in the draft but also has a realistic shot at winning the lottery much as we did in 07 and Chicago in 08 with about the same odds.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 03/01/2012 5:13 PM

    Give up Ray,Wallace and Babbitt, get Nash and sign Wilson Chandler.
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  1. diablo2689
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    Posted 03/02/2012 8:37 AM

    Trading batum would be a lot to give up for the 38 year old.. The unprotected 1st round pick would help me be alright with the trade, but not happy until i see what that pick produced. I would love the situtation commontongue said!!! To get Nash and Chandler is very wishful thinking though.
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  1. diablo2689
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    Posted 03/02/2012 8:37 AM

    Trading batum would be a lot to give up for the 38 year old.. The unprotected 1st round pick would help me be alright with the trade, but not happy until i see what that pick produced. I would love the situtation commontongue said!!! To get Nash and Chandler is very wishful thinking though.
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  1. oldcute
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    Posted 03/02/2012 1:30 PM

    They need to get rid of Felton,Wallace ect. And get a new coach.
  1. oldcute
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    Posted 03/02/2012 1:33 PM

    Get rid of Felton to.That was a bad mistake of getting rid on Miller.
  1. VanceW
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    Posted 03/02/2012 1:40 PM

    I'd rather trade Felton and Nolan Smith for Nash. PHX gets two young point guards and cap space. Then we move Babbit to D-League and sign Patty! Portland ends up with 3 reliable point guards, another veteran voice in the locker room, and insane depth.
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  1. riverman
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    Posted 03/02/2012 7:43 PM

    Nash, like Billups and Kidd is a floor coach. He can still mop the floor with most point guards in the league and will make all our shooters get the ball where they need it. I'm all for bringing him and Grant Hill to Portland on 2 year contracts. Just don't give up Batum, Aldridge, Williams, Pryzbilla or Crawford for anyone. All the rest of the roster is expendable. Nate is not the problem with this team's bricked layups, turn overs or lack of rebounding. He is at fault for leaving slumping players on the court though. Elliot Williams could very well be our version of Jeremy Lin on the bench. Guy is ready to break out. Play the man!
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  1. Mark Johnson
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    Posted 03/02/2012 10:18 PM

    I agree.  Do NOT get rid of Batum. I've seen when we've had other young players and traded them they grew up and would'nt you know, they help some other team. I also would love to see Nash here but with no trade including Batum.     KNOW WAY

  1. freddead
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    Posted 03/03/2012 3:34 PM

    lol all this for 38 year old PG who imo if traded will retire at the end of the year hes not really worth anything at this time of the year
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 03/03/2012 8:46 PM

    I don't even think Nash has a Championship push left in him, and you're only looking at one year with him. And if you give up Batum to get Nash... who is Nash gonna pass to? Keep Nic! He's easily the 2nd best player on this team (as he literally just hit a shot for his 22nd point this game). Honestly, the more I've been watching Nic and Lebron footage, the only 2 things that make Nic worse than Lebron are handling and confidence, both of which could change on short-notice. If you have a Lebron-like player and you're trying to get a 38 year old veteran point guard, you want them ON THE SAME TEAM; you don't want to trade your rising star for a fading star.
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  1. uprised
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    Posted 03/04/2012 8:47 AM

    The Suns are shopping Nash now because they think he is worth something.  They aren't going to force him to go, but they aren't going to give him away for nothing.  They are not going to trade a hall-of-famer for Felton and Nolan Smith LOL.  Also, I think it's a bad idea to decimate the Blazers entire lineup and burn up all their depth for a PG that's only going to play for 2 years.  

    I don't see any trades for a top level PG that don't involve Batum or LMA.  I don't like the Nash trade period as matter of fact.  We should be focusing on Rondo and looking to build this team the right way.  Nash might give us what, 15 additional wins over the next 2 seasons?  Not good enough.  

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  1. Napoleon7
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    Posted 03/04/2012 10:10 AM

    I like the idea of Nash, but we should not break up the nucleus to get him. IMO the nucleus is Lamarcus, Nicolas & Elliot. Rondo would be my target PG of the future. 
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  1. postedbailblazers
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    Posted 03/04/2012 10:17 AM

    Nash is a win now, F the future kinda guy.  We need to be building based on Aldridge's contract.  We are NOT winning a championship this year...no matter who we trade for.  Nash would be a better fit in Boston where they want to win this year and plan to be a lottery team soon anyway.  We have to give to get.  It's not a secret that our guys who are underperforming are doing so.  The rest of league sees and knows.  Wallace or Batum would have to be involved if we plan to get anything that would make an impact.  And we need to look at guys younger than Nash.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 03/05/2012 1:05 PM

    The next two weeks before this season's trade deadline are going to be VERY telling in terms of what direction this franchise is heading.  It appears as though current owner PA may be positioning payroll for a sale of the team.  With only Aldridge and Matthews with contracts of any significance, no GM, and a coach who likely won't be returning, all eyes are on Buchanan.

    Find it interesting that Wesley is the only Blazer featured in the picture heading this thread since a deal involving him for Nash would lessen even further this team's financial obligations moving forward.
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  1. tonyspdx
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    Posted 03/05/2012 1:11 PM

    If he sells, we are losing the best owner in basketball
  1. BDawg
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    Posted 03/05/2012 1:20 PM

    I agree.  Only Cuban rivals Paul Allen's passion for his team and the game and has anywhere near the means to back it with his wallet.
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  1. rmontee6175
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    Posted 03/05/2012 5:22 PM

    I guess my question is this..... Why does this sound like an urgent deal? I mean does everybody think that if we bring Nash to Portland, we will suddenly go farther in the playoffs? My point is this...If we try to work all these deals now, it is going to leave a sour taste in the mouths of the players. With this shortened season I believe that it would benefit us more in the long run if we basically put a band-aid on the season and get through it. Give the other guys a chance to play a little bit, it would sure help when the team is evaluated during the off season. We have given away quite a few players that either have or had turned into very good players. When the bench guys dont get played, how can we make a judgement on 8 minutes of playtime...This is why we have seen alot of our trades move up in the league. Finally, I do have to say that all these ideas would be null and void if the Blazers decide to show us fans why we are the top fans in the league. It is hard to blast the opponent right through the door when we have so little to cheer about. As for trades... It is a toss-up between Nate and Felton for the 1st trade position.
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