When do you start Questioning the Coach?
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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 02/02/2012 9:46 PM

    I really don't understand,Maybe i'm just a stupid Blonde, I really don't get it,at what point do we start questioning our coach? I mean this Team is OBVIOUSLY not playing up to potential,of our 10 losses 9 of them have been by 5 points or less,and our last 2 loses on the road came against teams with FAR less talent,and we had leads,WE HAD LEADS! This team doesn't play with ANY sense of urgency at all,and even Mike rice mentioned how often they do "Ham and Egg"Plays(Around the back passes,showtime like stuff). I was in the chat room the other day and I questioned Nate Mcmillion's coaching ability and Ms.Sarah was ALL OVER me for even bringing up the question of his leadership ability. I mean what exactly is a coach supposed to do? Motivate the players,get them the best prepared for the task at hand as possible. Do you think this team is playing as motivated as they should be? Are the as well prepared for the task at hand as possible? How many close games has this team lost down the stretch that they could've won? If its a close game you can rest assured this team is gonna probably lose,doesn't ANY of the blame fall on the coach. I mean we had Mike dunleavy as our coach back in 1999 and he was coach of the year,2 years later they fired him after a first round exit. Remember 2009? You really think the Blazers were as prepared as they coulda been for their first round matchup with houston? Injuries aren't a excuse anymore our team is healthy but we are playing some of our worst basketball in years. Teams just don't lose this many close games by coincidence,and am a just a stupid blonde girl for thinking Nate Mcmillon isn't a god?
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  1. benh7777
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    Posted 02/02/2012 10:15 PM

    I think Nate is a good coach at practice, but is a indecisive coach in games.
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  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 02/02/2012 10:25 PM

    healthy? our superstar roy retired, our pick oden is still injured, battum banged up, you can really tell all the blows gerald walace took earlier is effecting the way he is playing now, and on top of all that, we have a pg that is underachieving, we need to go after rondo and patch up the pg spot, once we get a pg that is good, then you will see that the teams away game wins will go up
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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 02/02/2012 10:27 PM

    Coaches can't make the ball go in. When the ball drops, the Blazers can win by 44.
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  1. benh7777
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    Posted 02/02/2012 10:32 PM

    It isn't that the ball wasn't going in, it is the effort they put out.
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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 02/02/2012 10:36 PM

    As far as blaming Nate goes, that's the Coach's job. To take heat away from blaming the players.

    Coach Nate has installed winning principles, and it's up to the guys on the court to win the game. For instance, did you see how happy Armon Johnson was in the 1st half of Sacramento game? Perhaps that's the fuel the Blazers need to finish off road games? Make Armon happy. You can win for pride, respect, and sense of well being. That's all fine and dandy. But the main focus on winning should remain, make Armon happy.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 02/03/2012 6:17 AM

    As a coach myself, let me add my perspective here.  Nate's teams here have consistently overachieved and always played very hard, in large part behind the heart of their leader on the floor now retired.  Nate, in my opinion, has shored up the one weakness I felt he had...his in-game decision making.  Mistakes will always be made, coaches are human, but good coaches don't make them often.  Be mindful that it is far easier to arm-chair quarterback than to have that pigskin in your hands with linebackers running at you wanting your head. 

    Bottom line for me is that Nate has always gotten the most from the players he's had to work with.  He is very well respected around the league.  This site will be littered with "wish Nate was still here" when he's gone.
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  1. benh7777
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    Posted 02/03/2012 8:41 AM

    If what we're seeing is the most of our players then we need to unload nearly the whole team.
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  1. gretta777
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    Posted 02/03/2012 9:51 AM

    Couple comments from a layperson here, someone who roots for the Blazers, but doesn't have the game knowledge that other posters here may have....



    There is OBVIOUSLY something mental going on here with our pathetic inconsistent road play.  I don't need to be an expert in the game to say that....I point to one stat....at home, we're nearly perfect, and on the road, we can't buy a win.  To me, this indicates that the game playing ability is there.  So it's obviously something else, something mental that sets in on road games, that messes them up.  Players, if it's "nerves or jitters", GET OVER IT.  Other "top tier" teams have.  Do you want to be a top tier team, or will you be satisfied getting eliminated in the first round every year?



    If it is coaching, then coach, please make adjustments.  Having a near perfect record at home demonstrates that the game playing ability is there...make it appear on the road!



    Lastly, I do agree with the original post from Curvechloe above about the "lack of urgency" seen in the Blazer's game.  I've said that to myself while watching their play many many times.  There was a road game just the other week where, the Blazers once again, were behind, and man o man, you could just see the look on their face, like they didn't want to be there.  Not only was their a lack of urgency in their play, but they physically looked like they were not wanting to be there...they were already thinking ahead to their hotel bed.

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  1. Austin Martin
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    Posted 02/03/2012 10:31 AM

    Nate is a wonderful developer of talent. One of the best in my opinion.
    However, there is a difference between a developing coach and a winning coach, and Nate needs to show he can lead an already developed team to more than the first round.
    When we brought him in the team was in full rebuild and look what he did in just a few years. (given he had some great pieces to work with). He also can build something out of nothing (look at our decimated rosters the last few years that still found their way into the playoffs).

    That said, something is currently missing and its not for lack of talent. I love ya Nate, but you gotta light a fire under these guys asses or it will be your job!
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  1. uprised
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    Posted 02/03/2012 10:46 AM

    I hear you about your comments being shouted down on the boards and in Blazer chat.  The moderation is pretty heavy handed.  Criticism directly on players or coaches is not really welcome.  Frustrating at times, but it is what it is.

    Second, I'm going to disagree with saying that Nate is to blame for what's going on with the team.  The team is under-performing right now, and that's on the players.  It's going to be tough on Crash, LMA, and Batum but those 3 guys need to be aggressive and attack the rim.  This isn't a slump, the Blazers are a terrible shooting team and when their aggression falls off in the 2nd half, they give away games.  The Blazers don't get enough FT attempts.  Lots of fans will say it's the officials fault, but the officials suck across the board in the NBA right now.  The Blazers just aren't doing what it takes to get to the line.  To sustain a game in the paint, Matthews, Felton, and Crawford all need to attack with the idea of passing first, shoot second, and whatever happens never ever EVER turn the ball over.  

    Nate can't tell a guy like Crawford not to shoot.  He gets paid to shoot.  The shooting game opens up the floor and let's LMA, Crash, and Batum get aggressive inside.  BUT, when the players get lazy and start throwing up low percentage jumps shots the entire second half, there's not much Nate can do.  The Blazers need to find away to have a balanced offense.  That means, use your best assets (LMA, Crash, and Batum) to your primary point production, and keep teams honest by making a reasonable percentage of jump shots.  That's on the players, not Nate.
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  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 02/03/2012 3:02 PM

    look all it is, we need a star player, aldridge may be an allstar, but he is a pf, an not one like amare or dirk, they both have decent dribbling ability and clutch moves, and the rest of the team does not have a good direction if they stop aldridge, we need a batman and let aldridge be robin, we need a rondo, or a williams, curry?  a carmelo, then i think we can take th next step, in short, aldridge is an allstar player, but can not be a number 1 player for a championship contender
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  1. Herr
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    Posted 02/03/2012 4:54 PM

    The main problem I have with Nate is he's got a deep team and he makes it less deep.  Look at Denver, Boston, and the Spurs.  These teams are still in the running and doing somewhat great because their coaches play their deep bench.  Look at the Lakers, the Bulls, and many other teams.  They are DEEP, yet have less talent on their benches than the Blazers, but besides Crawford, Thomas, Smith, and Batum,  we won't get any production because our guys are just thrown into games randomly.  And when that happens, they aren't playing to win, they're playing to stay in the game, and that's when they get all flustered and create stupid mistakes.

     Nate has absolutely no faith in his bench.  He plays the starters heavy minutes all the time, and keeps the struggling ones (like Mathews and Wallace) in there all game when they are doing nothing to help the outcome of the game.    The only reason he plays Smith and Thomas is to give Camby and Aldridge rest.

    Nates way of fixing problems is to bench players, yet the players he benches aren't ever getting opportunities.

    And I STILL do not get why Thomas AND Camby were on the bench in the final moments of the game.  Aldridge is so much better when he has a center with him, rather than playing center.

    Nate isn't progressing as a coach, and the fact he had to change his system after 5 years proves that he has NO idea what he's doing.   He cannot lead us to a championship.

    Some of the players we have are so good because they were given opportunities because of injuries or they got one on a different team and we signed them.   I grew up wanting to be a Blazer like every other kid.  If I was in the draft, I would now dread if Portland selected me because I would NEVER get to play.
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  1. Blazer247
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    Posted 02/03/2012 5:26 PM

    Agree with... everything that Herr said (Nail on the head, dude), EXCEPT to be sure that Nate can't lead us to a championship. I agree that he WON'T if he doesn't fix the other things you mentioned, but I don't want to give up on his ability to grow in his role on the team. Not saying Nate is a bad coach, but he's stubborn and continues to use the same habits instead of adapting to the adjusting strength of his players.

    McMillan is known across the NBA as one of the most predictable coaches out there... just like it's the players' responsibilities to progress, so it is with the coaches. You better believe that most anyone we face in the playoffs will form part of their gameplan based on how Nate has used his rotation and what clutch plays he sets up in past years. If he can't add more weapons to his strategies, and learn to modernize his playbook, he will not help us get to the next level, same as a player that won't improve where we need.

    And gotta say to Jamsmashers... COMPLETELY disagree. Can't believe you still think LaMarcus can't be a #1 option, especially if the players around him perform closer to their potential, so he has less pressure. You mentioned Amare and Dirk, and outside of Stoudamire's amazing game the other night, I don't think there's any contest so far this year on who is the most dominant pf between those 3. On top of that, the youngest. Aldridge all day :)
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  1. D_pickett
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    Posted 02/03/2012 6:52 PM

    I'll throw my name into the Herr hat as well. This very thing has been bothering me as well. In fact, the thing that kills many of us--which is Crawford playing PG--is a direct result of Nate's lousy rotation decisions. He has Nolan Smith and, to a lesser extent, Armon Johnson to call up. All they need to do is play 10-12 minutes BETWEEN THEM and that keeps Felton from killing himself.

    My heart sank when Nate said, "You're trying to rotate ten guys; I'm want to shorten that." I had just started to like the fact that Nolan was getting more minutes. And now he's starting to look like the 2nd to last option off the bench even though his play never started to lapse during the minutes he was getting. It looked like Nate just started punishing him for being a rookie.

    Which brings me to my last point. I can't remember who on here said that Nate is a great developer of new talent. I'm going to say some names now... Luke Babbit, Armon Johnson, Patty Mills, Chris Johnson, Earl Barron, Elliot Williams... need I go on? Any improvement these guys made has been done on their own time or with assistant coaches. Nate seems to have nothing to do with training them up, and he certainly doesn't give them enough opportunities in games.
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  1. Blazer247
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    Posted 02/04/2012 12:46 AM

    At the VERY least, Nate shouldn't even be allowed to go to a shallower rotation... A ten man rotation shouldn't be a problem, as long as he's not delegating who gets minutes ahead of time. Part of coaching is looking at the intangible and taking advantage of what ALL your players can give you. What's the point of having one of the deepest rosters if you don't give the bottom 40% any playing time? Keep it at a 10 man rotation, and then only 25% of the roster is left out, that's at least acceptable...

    Stop being stubborn, Coach! Flexibility and instinct are gonna be key in this season more than most... don't be the weakest link of a Blazer team with huge potential.
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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 02/04/2012 6:36 PM

    Just don't tell miss Sarah or any blazer homers that,everything is perfect as far as there concerned
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  1. Blazer247
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    Posted 02/04/2012 7:04 PM

    Lol Chloe I've heard Sarah and others give acceptable criticism towards Coach McMillan before, he's no more off limits than the players...
    but I think some people get a little defensive about making sure that posters are RESPECTFUL in their criticism, after all it's obviously WAYYYYY easier to be a couch-coach then to make any attempt at doing the real thing, day in and day out.
    However that doesn't mean we're not allowed to question decisions with our 20-20 hindsight! It happens multiple times a year on every fanboard of every team to coaches and players alike. "Fan Criticism" is part of the game, but lets draw the line when it becomes something about personal attacks or ungrounded claims.
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  1. barnettfan
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    Posted 02/04/2012 7:08 PM

    I think Nate does a good job rebuilding a team and getting them to the playoffs. He has incredible ethics but he has one major flaw I see and that one will prevent him from EVER winning a championship. Outside of 1 or 2 bench players the rest are there to mix gatorade and hand out towels. You can practice practice practice all you want (and you should) but if you dont get to play some minutes you start not to care because you know all that practice will put you on a team that can use you and play you. Look how long Jermaine Oneal sat on our bench and never played and look what he did immeadiately going to Indiana(outside beating up a fan). When our bench played the Bobcats in the fourth quarter I saw 4 guys on offense and Luke Babbitt. I can see Luke going to another team and doing well under another coach. I have seen Nate pull players who have had a hot hand so his star can go out and pad his numbers or try to get hot. I like Nate he can do alot with nothing but unfortunately he can do nothing with alot as this season is starting to show. 
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  1. Curvychloe
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    Posted 02/05/2012 3:45 PM

    I said it exactly as its posted here in the message board=When do we start questioning the coach?  Thats not really that agressive, I mean just cause we are Blazer fans doesn't mean our Basketball IQ drops to 0 everytime we talk about something as it pertains to the blazers. This team has the talent,and the problem is they know it,they are cocky,you shoulda heard Lamarcus Badmouth the clippers a month ago after we won our 4th game against OKC. I mean they are cocky,they can beat Denver by 30 and lose to sacramento,they can win in OKC but not Detroit? Really?..........Really?  Its obvious theres motivation issues to get up against teams below .500 the announcers even said it last nite the blazers are like 5-6 against teams below .500. Which means they are 9-4 against teams above .500.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 02/07/2012 12:05 PM

    Posted By benh7777 on 02/03/2012 8:41 AM
    If what we're seeing is the most of our players then we need to unload nearly the whole team.
    I agree

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