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  1. CharmCityBLA7ER
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    Posted 06/22/2011 4:43 AM

    Portland:
    Daniel Gibson
    Ramon Sessions
    JJ Hickson 
    4th pick

    Clevland:
    Rudy Fernandez
    Luke Babbit
    Elliot Williams
    Nicolas Batum
    rights to Joel Freeland
    Andre Miller
    21 st pick

    Cleveland gets cap relief or can use Baron Davis and Andre Miller to teach Kyrie Irving which is great due to the fact i belive Irving is over hyped and if the pressure gets to him they have 2 starting point guards on the roster. They are willing to give up Hickson i believe IOT to fill out the wing with Rudy and the upside of Batum makes the trade have merit along with his current ability and the ineptitude of Cleveland as far as perimeter defense. They are looking to acquire their pgotf in Irving so at 1 so that makes Daniel Gibson and Ramon Sessions expendable as they aren't entirely needed going forward. They get help on the wing  with Rudy Fernandez he can finally get a starting job, he gets to be on the east coast. Batum is as good as Kawhi Leanard will be within the next couple years although i believe Leanord will develop better ball handling then Batum. The 21 st pick ensures they still get to add to their roster. Maybe Luke Babbit can grow some balls and shoot the basketball like I've seen him shoot he is a marksman but hes a pussy on the court he doesnt believe in his abilities, hopefully they value his potential. And Joel Freeland can fill their void at the 4 in the future. Elliot adds to their young core and could be a piece that intrigues them if they can look past his surgeries from last season

    Why we accept:
    JJ Hickson:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wfG9-q6CrQ8&NR=1
    As for us we get the JJ hickson he can back-up as well as play with LA he can run the floor, play with his back to the basket, face up and knock down midrange range shots as well as finish at the rim off of cutting, rolling to the basket, putbacks, etc. He has good off-ball movement and in my personal opinion and in any cleveland fans if they paid attention if he was started over Antwan Jamison the Cavs may have won the title last year in all honesty. He is an athletic powerfull 4 akin to a NeNe type player with more vert but slightly less power.

    Kemba Walker:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVNIB8dOkn8
    With the 4th pick We can pick Kemba Walker. Kemba can score, set up teammates, penetrate at will, has a tremendous pull-up jumper, good and improving mid-range game,adept floater, plays bigger than his height, and an Allen Iverson sized heart without the attitude, extremely coachable, and hes a leader, gamer, and a fearless closer.

    Daniel Gibson:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MDpH29I69Y
    Ramon Sessions:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcAq7p6tdQQ
    To keep our offense on track besides kemba we get Daniel Gibson who can shoot threes, and is a capable playmaker, and is a Shooter's shooter. Ramon Sessions is a good distributer, penetrator, and scorer but not a long range threat but his in between game is decent.

    This scenario addresses the starting point guard position, back up point, 3rd string point, and back up 4 position

    We add scoring, playmaking, shooting, depth in the frontcourt. All things that need to be addressed as well as keep our 2nd round pick to pick up a guard/foreward to replace some particular aspects of Batum's game such as Chris Wright from dayton who is a tremendous athlete, and a great defender and rebounder for his position. 
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 06/22/2011 10:46 AM

    I like the scenario, but id make one tweak. We keep Batum, and throw in Camby's attractive expiring contract as well.Im also a big fan of Verajao.
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  1. mbmurr1
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    Posted 06/22/2011 12:05 PM

    This is one sided to Cleveland....... Leave out Batum and Williams or give Portland more like Clevelands #1 pick in 2012 unrestricted
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  1. CharmCityBLA7ER
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    Posted 06/22/2011 12:52 PM

    There is no way we get the 4th pick without Batum flatout. Batum for Hickson Str8 up would work but Elliot,Luke, and Rudy are there to get the 4th pick with Andre's contract being a financial freedom option. We cant throw in Camby for Verajao bcuz Camby is 38 and Verajao has more worth than camby at this point. I dont believe its one sided to cleveland we get the 4th pick and Hickson, We get a younger version of andre miller in Sessions, We get the floor stretching pg in Daniel Gibson, and we get Kemba who can be our coveted pgotf. We give up one piece of our core to get 2 important pieces. Hickson fixes the frontcourt issue of LA's overuse and Kemba, Gibson, Session address our lack of ball handlers and offense operators. I for one was tired of seeing Patty's mighty mouse point guard routine that  led to only 1 nifty assist all season with his aerial spinning pass to Rudy on the baseline, he tries but that about all, he makes you proud with his effort but thats about as far as it goes, Rudy let me down in the playoffs with his Luke Babbit like shooting performance, Batum disappeared offensively couldnt hit the long end of a barn with a sniper rifle. And honestly we beat the Mavericks if those 2 play to their capabilities and that left a sour taste in my mouth that neither of them could have the focus and poise of JJ Barea at least in the Rose Garden. Their departures dont sadden me. We can sign CJ Miles in free agency to make up for the loss of Rudy and Batum without recreating the logjam at sg as he can play both. Wesley Matthews became known for his defense against the Nuggets in the playoffs last year when him and CJ Miles put a defensive clinic on Carmelo anthony leading to offensive foul after offensive foul and i for one would prefer his bulk over Batum's length. Ill take his consistency on both sides of the floor over our occasion Boy Wonders, he can finish with power, left handed, can create adequately off the dribble, and is a 3pt marksmen.

    We can immediately contend with
    Kemba Walker
    Wesley Matthews 
    Gerald Wallace
    LaMarcus Alderige
    Camby

    Daniel Gibson/Ramon Session
    Brandon Roy
    Cj Miles/Chris Wright(can be drafted in 2nd round or may go undrafted and be signed)
    JJ Hickson
    Chris Johnson/Oden(god willing)

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