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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/21/2011 10:34 AM

    Via Twitter-
    Charlotte's active in talks to move Gerald Wallace and/or Stephen Jackson, league execs say. Houston, Portland, others w/ eye on Wallace.
    Could this be the Camby-type deal that was rumored a couple of months ago? Many people may no like him, but S-Jax can flat out fill it up and would take a LOT of the offensive burden off of LA's shoulders. I wish Woj would have mentioned who we were offering, b/c I'd obviously love to add these two players, but it all depends on the price.

    According to Hoopshype, Wallace has 1 year left after this year plus a player option at 11.4 million and Jackson has 2 years remaining as well. Both of their contracts are fairly reasonable and not as long-term as I thought they were.
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  1. sheedwuzright
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    Posted 02/21/2011 10:37 AM

    Smoke-

    The Blazers are set at the 2/3 positions. This makes no sense at all. 
    Imo, Cho should only be looking at 4/5's  at this point.
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  1. Fallen_Deity
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    Posted 02/21/2011 10:59 AM

    We are set at the 2/3 position unless we trade a SG and a SF
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  1. sheedwuzright
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    Posted 02/21/2011 11:21 AM

    Imo, Cho may trade a sg, to land the back up big this team is missing.
    Rudy,Marks(expiring contract) , draft pick, $, whatever it takes, to land the one missing piece on this roster.  McGee/ Thabeet/ Randolph maybe ? 
    I have 100% faith in Roy coming off the bench and helping this team down the stretch. Then next season when EW plays, Rudy will be an after thought. Still no need for an aging Wallace or head case Jackson.

    Hopefully Cho can get down and dominoe after Melo finally drops big 6 to get it started.


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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 02/21/2011 11:56 AM

    I think Cho should try to arrange two trades or a complicated three party trade such that:

    Portland gets Harris from Nets and Gerald Wallace from the Bobcats

    Portland trades Miller, Pryz, Rudy, and two first round draft picks.

    I believe the Bobcats are looking for draft picks and the Nets are looking to move Harris.  I am not sure how the financial parts fit.

    If this means we will get Outlaw back and get Morrow I think this is still is a sound idea.
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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 02/21/2011 12:09 PM

    The trade talk above assumes the Denver Nuggets trade Melo to New York and not New Jersey.

    I think the lineup from the above trades would yield:

    PG Harris
    SG Mathews/Morrow
    C  Camby
    PF Aldridge
    SF Wallace/Batum

    I really like this lineup
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  1. Ricky
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    Posted 02/21/2011 12:17 PM

    Of course Roy and Oden would fill in very nicely after they are healthy
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  1. CarlJ1
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    Posted 02/21/2011 12:25 PM

    I'm a fan of these two players but it's a couple years too late. I remember us trying to get Gerald a couple years ago and that when we should of got him unless these are pieces for another trade and also you have to factor in S-Jax additude he is one of the leader in tech this season.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 02/21/2011 12:35 PM

    The problem I see with us getting Gerald Wallace is where will he log play time? I'm sure he wants to start but the problem is we have a budding player in Nicolas Batum at the 3, Aldridge at the 4 and Wes/Roy(when he returns) at the 2. That's all the positions he can play.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 02/21/2011 4:16 PM

    Nic could be leaving with Wallace coming.  That would answer alot of the questions many of you are posing.  Not a fan of Jackson, as I would worry about fans at the RG spilling beer anywhere in his vicinity, and their personal safety immediately after.  He was a BIG part of the NBA's "darkest day".

    Not only do I not feel that Ron Ron nor Jackson fit OUR culture here in P'Town, I would question whether or not they would fit in Raider black and silver.
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  1. Herr
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    Posted 02/21/2011 5:05 PM

    Bad deal, we don't need those guys.  I'd rather keep Batum/Wesley/Roy as our SG/SF positions.

    A Nets fan told me that the Nets backup plan when they don't get Melo is the Harris for Andre swap.  I don't like that either.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/23/2011 11:22 AM

    Latest update from Woj-

    Adrian Wojnarowski
    Nevetheless, source says the Blazers still believe that Wallace could end up in the Eastern Conference. Portland's pushing, though.
    I wonder if they will force us to take on Jackson's contract?
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/23/2011 12:03 PM

    Via  SBNation, here is what Charlotte's asking for in return
     The Bobcats are said to be asking for a protected first-round pick and expiring contracts.

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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/23/2011 12:15 PM

    Wow.
    Via Twitter-
    RT @: Just got off the phone with an NBA source who says his team believes the Wallace-to-Portland deal is "done."

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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/23/2011 12:24 PM

    For all you Batum fans out there, have no fear-
     Supposedly, Batum not involved in the proposed Wallace trade.

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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 02/23/2011 12:26 PM

    Wow, I really don't see where Wallace can fit and I really don't like the idea of trading Nic, Wes or Roy all of which play the positions Wallace can play.
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  1. mattnificent85
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    Posted 02/23/2011 12:38 PM

    How are we set at the 2/3??? We have Wes, Rudy, and half of Brandon Roy at the 2 and at the 3 Batum... Cunningham isn't a true 3. Plus if we got Wallace he's a 3/4! Please come thru on this one Cho!
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  1. Moses Ross
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    Posted 02/23/2011 12:39 PM

    Leave the current team ALONE! They are playing fantastic right now and have come together as a team because of all the adversity. Don't mess it up, Cho!!!
  1. Bertram
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    Posted 02/23/2011 12:50 PM

    Getting Gerald is a great trade...if he's willing to play bench and assume the Stretch-4 role that Outlaw had. That would be perfect. I don't know much about Crash but my worry is the team having chemistry issues. I don't think we should stay put as some people would say, fact is this team is broken and needs to be fixed regardless of how we're playing right now. We aren't a championship team right now and that's the ultimate goal, not entertainment now and another 1st round loss for the next few years.
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  1. callmephenom7
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    Posted 02/23/2011 1:07 PM

    Wallace is a great option at the 4. He's a strong player that could pull down 10 boards a game. not to mention hes another great defender. great pickup by the blazers. love it
  1. Ricky
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    Posted 02/23/2011 1:15 PM

    I think Gersld Wallace is better than any first round selectiion we might get in the upcoming draft so I feel first round selections could be traded for Wallace.  He is still a very good player.
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  1. blazersforlife234
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    Posted 02/23/2011 1:27 PM

    blazersedge.com

    looks like we're getting him according to all the reports
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  1. charomckeever
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    Posted 02/23/2011 1:28 PM

    I hear the Thrilla got traded for Gerald??? yes or no?
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/23/2011 1:47 PM

    I've heard two rumors:
    1- Przy, picks, cash for Wallace
    2- Camby, Miller for Augustine, Wallace, Diop
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/23/2011 1:51 PM

    From Ken Berger of CBS-
    Ken Berger
    Package for Wallace believed to be centered around Andre Miller. Marcus Camby was discussed, but he might retire rather than report to Char.

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  1. Tommy Ngo
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    Posted 02/23/2011 1:56 PM

    heres the link for the Przy+draft picks for G wallace trade
    http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/23/report-portland-pushing-hard-for-gerald-wallace-among-other-suitors/
  1. Matt Coleman
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    Posted 02/23/2011 2:10 PM

    We will take Gerald Wallace but please don't let Stephen Jackson anywhere near our locker room. We spent a long time weaving out players like him and we don't need to get headed back down that direction. I realize we could use the scoring but it isnt' worth the blow to team chemistry. This guy is a ball hog and thinks he is lebron james. I hurl just thinking about the idea of him being in a Portland uniform. Whatever happend to just resigning Dre?? He has been the glue holding this team together and is essential in setting up the young blazers. With Miller Aldridge will take a huge blow and please don't go down that road. I believe in you Cho please don't poison our locker room!!!
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  1. jamie (guy)
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    Posted 02/23/2011 2:17 PM

    cant go 2 for 3 players so how does that work, and we cant go 0 for 1 unless we drop marks who yes has guaranteed money i guess he wil be like pendergraph, drop him he gets his cash and adios (well pendergraph isnt gone persay)
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  1. caseyholdahl
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    Posted 02/23/2011 2:23 PM

    Funny that Berger would mention Camby not reporting. Me thinks Joel wouldn't report to Charlotte either...
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/23/2011 2:37 PM

    And now more national members of the media are getting in on it-
    Chris Broussard
    I'm told Cavs-Bobcats talks about Wallace are dead. Wallace didn't want to be in Cleveland anyway. Portland talks real serious.

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  1. Posted 02/23/2011 2:38 PM

    Stephen Jackson is a black eye on the game and should not be allowed to play in the NBA.  Did we forget the Jail Blazers already?
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  1. Cindy64
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    Posted 02/23/2011 3:30 PM

    Blazer's would be out of their minds to get rid of Camby.
  1. joeblow33
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    Posted 02/23/2011 3:45 PM

    This might be Cho's defining moment.  Utah one-upped us with the Harris deal, if we are going to stay in the race he may be able to bluff, might not.  It's up to him.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 02/23/2011 5:21 PM

    Did Utah really one-up us? I'll take Deron Williams over Devin Harris any day.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/23/2011 5:29 PM

    Latest update, sounds like no-deal
    Adrian Wojnarowski
    Charlotte-Portland talks for Gerald Wallace cooling, sources say. 'Cats pulling back, with one source suggesting MJ's getting cold feet.

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  1. abarrer3
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    Posted 02/23/2011 7:00 PM

    I heard the same DHawes22, sounds like this one won't happen
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  1. bonjustin8
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    Posted 02/23/2011 7:37 PM

    The Charlotte-Portland deal sounds good enough, given that Pryz is the only player to be given up. It's good because they have to give up tons of draft picks where there are no assurances yet whether those picks are going to shine in the NBA, given that we also have international rights of players who have yet to play in the NBA (Kopponen, Claver, Freeland). I agree on everyone, though, that Stephen Jackson should not be on this team.
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  1. vietorious
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    Posted 02/23/2011 9:15 PM

     

    Bobcats keeping Wallace?

    The Portland Trail Blazers made an unsuccessful push to acquire Charlotte Bobcats forward Gerald Wallace, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

    The Blazers ended their pursuit of Wallace after the Bobcats pulled back in talks. Bobcats owner Michael Jordan may have had “cold feet” about dealing Wallace, one source said.

    Wallace has two years and $22 million left on his contract.

    – Adrian Wojnarowski, 9:27 p.m. Feb. 23

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AvT2_UqDPbbAEiau6otgQAO8vLYF?slug=ys-tradebuzz022311

    Also, Oden staying put?

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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 02/23/2011 11:06 PM

    According to Quick on OregonLive, the deal still has life.  However, it seems that Charlotte and owner Michael Jordan are now raising the asking price

    http://www.oregonlive.com/blazers/index.ssf/2011/02/gerald_wallace-to-blazers_trad.html
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  1. bonjustin8
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    Posted 02/23/2011 11:40 PM

    What if a scenario like this would surprise us...

    PORTLAND acquires
    Wallace
    Diop
    Augustine

    CHARLOTTE acquires
    Miller
    Przybilla
    Babbitt
    Johnson
    [put draft pix on the mix]

    DISCLAIMER: This scenario is merely speculative. I just tried it on ESPN Trade Machine.
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 02/24/2011 2:43 AM

    toss em oden too... done deal.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 02/24/2011 5:54 AM

    Rick Bonnell, Charlotte Observer reporting the Wallace to Portland deal is dead this morning.

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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/24/2011 10:22 AM

    Deal looks to be dead b/c Charlotte insists on Batum-
    Marc Stein
    One source says CHA insistence on Batum stalled GWallace-to-Portland talks. Blazers been telling teams all year that Batum CAN'T be had

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  1. Herr
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    Posted 02/24/2011 10:34 AM

    Lovely.  Would have liked to have Wallace on the team.
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  1. Herr
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    Posted 02/24/2011 11:07 AM

    Not happening.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/24/2011 12:24 PM

    Woj is reporting that it is a DONE DEAL
     RT @: Portland will send Joel Przybilla and a 2nd round draft pick to Charlotte for Gerald Wallace, source says.

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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 02/24/2011 12:36 PM

    The very latest coming out of Twitter:
    Ken Berger
    Source confirms Bobcats also get Dante Cunningham in Wallace deal, plus Przybilla and two firsts.
    Stay tuned, it's been a crazy day around the league!
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  1. blazersforlife234
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    Posted 02/24/2011 12:39 PM

    I hear Pryz may get bought out, and we can get him back for the end of the year
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 02/24/2011 12:49 PM

    That would be fantastic.
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  1. formalityjoey
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    Posted 02/24/2011 1:14 PM

    For now the lineup has to be: Andre, Wesley, Nic, Wallace, LMA. It's gonna be pretty small ball until Camby comes back. That is pretty awesome. IMO, wallace is similar to wesley in the way they play the game. No fear. And i know blazer fans love them some wesley. Charlotte fans loved Wallace. My prediction, portland fans will love them some gerald wallace.

    When LMA passes out of the double team and it swings around to gerald wallace with 7 seconds on the shot clock, he's gonna bang it in and get to the free throw line. If no foul and he misses, expect Nic and LMA to crash the boards for a tip in.

    Eventually, Dre and Gerald will get their alley oop game synchronized and it's gonna be beautiful.

    I'm so excited. And i'm so happy Dre and Marcus are still with us.

    Thank you Joel and Dante for all the hard work =)
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