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  1. Shawn503
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    Posted 01/22/2011 1:14 PM

    I know it's still a little early to look at playoffs, but as the Blazers start to heat up, and their schedule takes a turn for the better, I couldn't resist looking at the standings. The Blazers are only 4 games out of 3rd place in the West. One nice run or one nice trade and they could salvage this injury riddled season and once again get home court in the playoffs. 

    Your thoughts on the 3rd through 6th or 8th place log jam in the West?
    Who rises up and who falls down?
    What will it take for the Blazers to make a run for home court? A trade? Marcus Camby's return? Or just a nice finish?
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  1. blazerdarren77
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    Posted 01/22/2011 1:21 PM

    i believe that Camby's return will lead them to a strong finish that will get them out of the #8 seed. i don't think they'll get homecourt but they will be able to make a trip into the 2nd rouund.
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  1. Herr
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    Posted 01/22/2011 2:36 PM

    It's a long shot.  Dallas, OKC, Spurs, and Lakers all have better chances of getting the homecourt than the Blazers.  Not to mention the Hornets have won their last 7 games and embarrassed the Hawks on the road.

    Homecourt is a dream, the playoffs are a reality.  All I know is I don't want 7th or 8th seed.  We could challenge both the Spurs and Lakers, but no way are we winning with how biased the NBA is and how injured we are.

    If we get Roy and Camby back come playoff time, and they are playing well, we could easily beat OKC and Dallas, or even the Hornets.
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  1. Burnt_Popcorn
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    Posted 01/22/2011 3:04 PM

    With how injured we are i think we should just focus on winning games and getting to the playoffs. Its the NBA where amazing happens, If one more person goes down with injury we are out. Houston and Memphis are right behind us not to mention Golden State and L.A Clippers behind them. Once we are next to guaranteed a play off spot then we can talk about position. Denver is one game ahead of us right now so maybe in a few days we can have the 7th seed so maybe the guarantee will come sooner than later!  
  1. TayC
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    Posted 01/22/2011 6:37 PM

    Posted By blazerfan77 on 01/22/2011 1:21 PM
    i believe that Camby's return will lead them to a strong finish that will get them out of the #8 seed. i don't think they'll get homecourt but they will be able to make a trip into the 2nd rouund.

    yeah but with camby out its going to be hard to maintain a winning game play.

    Camby has been super crucial for the teams success this far, i think he was like 5th overall on the rebounds last time i checked.
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  1. Herr
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    Posted 01/22/2011 6:40 PM

    Yeah but the Blazers as a whole are a good rebounding team.  Don't get me wrong, we need Camby, but we have players that can pick up the slack on the boards.  I believe we out-rebounded the Clippers and LMA only had 8.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 01/22/2011 6:57 PM

    honestly Herr, Joel had a what 12 board game the other night, and camby avgs 11, but other than that, they dont rebound that well.
    i mean every player gets about a board or two or three, but without camby, it is going to be hard. Because unlike Joel, camby puts up points not just boards...
    http://www.nba.com/blazers/stats/

    Really check it, Other than Aldridge and i guess Batum, Miller is the next biggest board contender....
    Pryz just cant score.
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  1. FamousRoy
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    Posted 01/23/2011 1:32 PM

    I am going to take the remarkably pessimistic viewpoint and say Camby and Roy are both done for the season.  Roy's absense not so much of a problem, considering our record without him is much better than it is with him.  Camby's absense is huge; we've all seen it's effect so far.  Yes, we've won the three games without him so far, but they've been against the Kings, Clippers, and Pacers, and we were lucky to come from behind and win in all three.  In addition, we were lucky that LaMarcus wasn't in foul trouble for those three games.  Once the Blazers start playing tough teams again like the Celtics on Thursday, we will start going downhill.  However, I still think we can pull off the eight or seven seed, especially if Melo is traded.  Nash and the Suns will inevitably make some ridiculous push.  Nash always makes sure that happens.  Grizzlies, meh.  Rockets, maybe, but the Blazers are still better IMO.  Unfortunately, I honestly don't see any way we're going to get out of the first round.  If we couldn't do it the last two years, there's no way we're going to now.  At least the team is exciting and fun to watch still!
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  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 01/23/2011 3:34 PM

    FamousRoy: Marcus is slated to come back in three to four weeks, so i'd say he's not done for the season. there's also a realistic possibility that Brandon will be back by season's end (you can read an interview with him on Casey's most recent blog). what the team does before the playoffs is one thing, but saying both players are done for the season is far from correct.

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  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 01/23/2011 3:43 PM

    Tay: Marcus only scores about four more points a game than Joel; probably not a fair comparison.

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  1. TayC
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    Posted 01/23/2011 3:58 PM

    Posted By Kassandra on 01/23/2011 3:43 PM
    Tay: Marcus only scores about four more points a game than Joel; probably not a fair comparison.

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    okay, true on that, but idk if i forgot to mention it in that post or not, but Joel only had 2 points the other day with 12 boards.
    And my main point is that with Camby you get plus 10 boards and a little extra points, but with Joel its only boards, even though its only a couple of more points, you and i both know that some games are only determined by a point or two.

    I would just like to see Pryz more active offensively, idk maybe him and LA take a one on one about low post moves, get Joel to play like LA is. hah
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  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 01/23/2011 4:06 PM

    Joel had 6 points last night. i also think the minutes played per game need to be taken into account. Marcus averages much more than Joel. i'm not saying it's a wash or that Marcus isn't overall better, but i do think Joel's a better defender down low. his presence there could take pressure off LaMarcus, thus helping to keep our best player out of foul trouble.

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  1. TayC
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    Posted 01/23/2011 6:41 PM

    Well when you take into consideration how streaky the players for this team are.
    i believe that offense becomes more and more crucial as the season gets along.
    Especially when your a +500 team.
    I mean you got WM who can throw up 20 like nothing, but he can also throw up 2 like...nothing.
    Fernandez, inconstant.
    I mean some of the bench guys are not in the rotation every night, its totally possible that this team could have only ONE consistent player in due time, and thats L.A.
    But see whats going to happen when Aldridge gets injured........because if you put any more pressure on him they might as well rename the team after him
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  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 01/23/2011 6:47 PM

    that really had nothing to do with the number of minutes per game for either player. i'm trying to be nice here, but that really came out of nowhere.

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  1. TayC
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    Posted 01/23/2011 7:35 PM

    well it is relavent for me, because i was originally talking about points.then you changed to minutes.
    but i am talking about points, once again.
    you are the only one talking about minutes.
    Hey thanks.
    i appreciate it and like it alot more when you are like this.


     Joel had 6 points last night. i also think the minutes played per game need to be taken into account. Marcus averages much more than Joel. i'm not saying it's a wash or that Marcus isn't overall better, but i do think Joel's a better defender down low. his presence there could take pressure off LaMarcus, thus helping to keep our best player out of foul trouble.
    See, it doesn't matter if Joel gets more minutes or not, because as you had stated, camby only scores a few more points.
    but here is the deal, Joel doesn't score very much at all. Where as Camby can add 6 points, but he can also get 10 some games.
    For Joel, take both of those numbers and replace them for like 2 and 6.
    My point is that, Camby Brings more to the Table, regardless of his minutes,( and i know you weren't contesting that) and although Joel can rebound, giving him more minutes isnt going to change how offensively uncoordinated he is.
    We may even hurt ourselves by having a lack of points for every time he gets a touch, the ball could be in Camby's hands, scoring, or whoever.
    i hope that makes sense, because i am super confused now
    haha
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  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 01/23/2011 8:11 PM

    omg you're a complete moron. i had forgotten how utterly stupid you truly are. like i said, i was trying to be nice. however, as usual, you had to instigate a bunch if incoherent crap.

    see, the problem with your little attempt to turn things around on me is that -- as always -- failed miserably. look at your previous post where you're talking about the team and players being streaky. that's what had absolutely nothing to do with the comparison with Marcus and Joel, whether it's minutes or scoring. as usual, you proved that you have absolutely no idea about that of which you're talking.

    wow, and to think maybe; l just maybe for once, you might have something relevant to say about something. too bad, kiddo, failed again.

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  1. LAS11291
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    Posted 01/24/2011 10:24 AM

    I'm not jumping on the "Everybody beat up on TayC" wagon, but Camby doesn't have all that great of a offensive game either. Pryzbilla is on this team for the energy and aggressiveness he brings to the court, just like Camby is here to haul in rebounds. Everybody fills a hole in the roster.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 01/24/2011 4:00 PM

    my intentions were not to be mean.
    im sorry if thats how you felt.
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  1. Brandon Weinant
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    Posted 01/24/2011 6:03 PM

    you cant really compare joel and marcus as players.
    yes they play the same posistion. but they play it completely different.
    to say one way is better than the other is illogical.

    joel is more of a physical presence. something after he got injured last year. we had very little of.
    (other than howard)
    marcus is the opposite. hes not that physical in his gameplay.

    both are good ways to play the posistion. as you can see. both can contribute.

    i just hope joel eventually can get healthy. because hes clearly not.

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  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 01/24/2011 6:31 PM

    you're correct, Brandon, it is like comparing apples to oranges. i suppose it depends more on the matchup than anything else. i think Joel will get healthy. he's not there yet, but i think his play in the past few games shows he's on his way.

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  1. TayC
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    Posted 01/25/2011 5:15 PM

    Posted By Brandon Weinant on 01/24/2011 6:03 PM



    both are good ways to play the posistion. as you can see. both can contribute.


    I disagree.
    You see, i was never trying to really compare them, other than the fact that, with camby out, Joel can hardly get a basket.
    Camby gives you both points and rebounds in a game, last night Pryzbilla didnt even have a field goal. a pair of FT's maybe but thats different.
    This is what Joel's third game with 6 points or less.

    Im just saying, thats not what camby is about.
    Camby doesnt necessarily have to create for himself, a shot that is.
    Camby is active and physically capable of getting an ally oop, i don think Joel is.
    However what they do contribute is rebounds.
    They are both good for a 7 maybe 10 boards a night.
    But with camby its not just a gaint rebounding machine who cant function offensively.
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