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  1. Blazer_forever
    Blazer_forever
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    Posted 04/27/2009 1:50 AM

    So who's going and staying?
    I am a fan of The Blazers and everyone on the team! They are all great.
  1. Bertram
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    Posted 04/27/2009 10:25 AM

    Staying:
    The Obvious-Brandon Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge, Greg Oden, Nicolas Batum, Rudy Fernandez
    The Solid but if the right deal comes along...-Steve Blake, Jerryd Bayless, Joel Pryzbilla, Travis Outlaw, Martel Webster.
    The No Longer a Blazer after the season is over-Channing Frye, Sergio Rodriguez, Shavlivik Randolph, Michael Ruffin, Raef LaFrentz

    The ones (other than the ones that will be gone after the season) that I'd like to see gone and getting an upgrade for are Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake. I'm sorry but after watching Kirk Hinrich play in the playoffs, the man can play defense consistently. He's not lock down but he's better than any of our PGs currently on defense. He's a smart defender, a good shooter, and a pass first PG. Sure his contract is heavy, but we have Daddy Warbucks as the owner.

    My dream players for this team (the people I'd love to see on this team but will probably not happen) are Rashard Lewis and Chris Bosh. Just one of them would be awesome. Sorry LaMarcus but you are too soft, I love your game but you just don't have that shine that Chris bosh does...and you guys are practically the same age.
    I am a fan of B-Roy and LaMonster!
  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 04/27/2009 11:47 AM

    LOL, you say LA is too soft then you say you want Chris Bosh. Make up your mind. Bosh is super soft. I'd take LA anyday. Second, I would not say Martel or Blake are bubble players. Blake is the future back up PG and Bayless is the future PG. It is about development. Bayless had one, maybe two great games as a PG when Blake was hurt, then he had more bad games with turnovers then he had good. He isn't ready yet, he has all offseason to develop more (and he will because he is a tireless worker) and we will see much more of him next year. I think the team owes Blake the opportunity to stay here, he has played well, he helped us over achieve and with Martel in the lineup next year, Blake's stats go up even more. Not to say Kirk isn't a fantastic PG, but he would hinder the development of the guards we have. I also expect to see Sergio develop. I don't think they will trade before the draft, but you might seem some pre-mid season transactions once we know what the team looks like together and what pieces we have that just take up more space that is needed elsewhere. As for Martel, he is the starting SF next year and I honestly see Travis at the back up 4 with Batum at the 3. That second unit will be very quick, very atheletic. If Bayless gets the nod next season, then with Blake in that second unit he adds the leadership to teach those guys. I think it will make Travis and Nic better. Rudy, what can I say, if he gets BETTER, that's scary. Maybe we get 2 in the 3 point shootout.
    I am a fan of Good basketball, great fans and Rip City!
  1. Bertram
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    Posted 04/27/2009 4:04 PM

    Chris Bosh attacks the basket and is in the low-block much more than Aldridge at this point. I'm not saying Aldridge wont develop into it, but Chris Bosh has it already and is just going to keep getting better...he's also roughly the same age I believe.

    I am 90% sure Sergio is gone in the off-season. He wasn't used much even though he was in every game in the season mostly, it was mostly to bring rest to the players.

    I don't see how he would hinder the development of our Point guards. If we were to pursue him (which I doubt we will) it would most likely be at the cost of Blake and some other players on our roster.

    As for Martel, I'm 95% sure he will be on this team and start. I would hate to see him go, and I doubt that he will unless of course it's one of those trades resembling Kwame for Pau stuff.

    With Bayless, the coaching staff approached his development last off-season wrong. In the summer league he was given the green light to shoot. I'm not sure what they did in practice, but I'm pretty sure they didn't hone in on his PG skills as much as they should have.
    I am a fan of B-Roy and LaMonster!
  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 04/27/2009 6:14 PM

    Chris Bosh doesn't have the option to spread the floor the way Aldrige does. Although they are comparable in numbers, LA does his damage in the West against the Gasols, Duncan, Jefferson, Yao, Amare where as Bosh really only has Garnett, Horford, and Wallace. Look at Bosh's numbers against western conference teams, not as good as LA. I think you have to take into account who they are playing against. Bosh wouldn't sit on the bench and you certainly aren't going to sit LA. Wouldn't do it, besides, he'll be going to NY soon with LeBron and Wade. To answer your question about Heinrich, he would hinder it because he wouldn't be OK with coming off the bench here. I think when you are looking long term, Heinrich will resign after FA with a team that would let him start. Blake would be happy staying here even as a back up. When you think about it that way, if you alienate Blake by trading him, you risk not getting him back since you already traded him once. When it comes to having a back up point, you won't get one better than Blake.
    I am a fan of Good basketball, great fans and Rip City!
  1. Jaspitzer
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    Posted 04/27/2009 7:56 PM

    Hinrich's free agency isn't up anytime soon. But What do you mean he wouldn't want to be here because he won't start? He would start here now and in the near future. Bayless isnt going to be ready for a long time. (if ever). He would take blakes spot, he's a better scorer and defender, blake would come off the bench, not hinrich. HOWEVER, The only way we could pick up hinrich is to trade for him this offseason and it's way unlikely we'd go for a trade this offseason i think, especially with good players on the market already and raefs contract expiring. Some good PG freeagents at the end of this season are JASON KIDD Aka Mr. Triple Double, Mike Bibby, and Andre Miller. Those are just pg options this year. Some other big names available this year that could help us next year at PF & SF are Drew Gooden, Carlos Boozer, Mehmet Okur, Hedo Turkoglu, Lamar Odom, Antonio McDyess, Chris Anderson (Yes I would want the stupid looking "birdman's" 2.9 blocks per game on our team), Big Z Ilgauskus and Shawn Marion. Anyone of those guys I mentioned would be a huge asset to our team! I believe the first thing we should go after is a GOOD pg. Jason Kidd would be awesome I think. Any other thoughts on Pgs?
    I am a fan of Kneepads for all our players!!!
  1. Travis
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    Posted 04/27/2009 8:21 PM

    I would not want birdman not sure he would fit ot Odom but some of the others are fine. I do not like Outlaw at the backup 4 for 2 reasons. 1 we need as many bigs as possible for injuries to centers then a real big for pf that moves up. I would like us to get a steady backup true 4.
    I am a fan of a run at those rings in 2011 when GO comes back to dominate!!!!!!!!!!!
  1. Bertram
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    Posted 04/28/2009 12:15 AM

    Hinrich would start here in Portland for a few years while Bayless develops into a Nate McMillan point guard.

    But yes this off-season we could sign a free-agent. However, Andre Miller is most likely staying in Philly, Jason Kidd...though he's been THE point guard I looked up to, he's getting old...good things have to come to an end. Mike Bibby I would certainly like to have as well. Not sure if Hawks are willing to let him walk for free.

    As for Outlaw at the PF spot...no thanks. We have to choose one. Martel or Outlaw. Batum is on the rise and will get better. There is no room for both Martel and Outlaw now. I can see a mid-season trade involving one of the two.
    I am a fan of B-Roy and LaMonster!
  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 04/28/2009 12:45 AM

    If that's the case then TO would be gone, Martel will be that much better when he is back. I really don't think Bayless is as far off as you all seem to think. The dude is driven. As for Heinrich, hey I would have taken him at mid-season this year and moved Blake back to the second PG position while Sergio's stock was still high. Now, I wouldn't trade Blake for Heinrich. He has expressed unfathomable loyalty to Portland as has Przybilla. I think you just don't turn around after a highly successful season and do that. That is a typical Trader Bob move. I remember how ticked I was when he traded the Rahsta Monsta back in the day. The guy was a star here. I get that it is a business, but if it ain't broke, don't fix it. It might be an upgrade on the court, but you sacrifice that connection to the community when you keep trading and moving regular rotation players. Chemistry never builds up. I'm not saying they shouldn't make ANY moves, I am just saying I don't think Blake is one you move. I also am not saying Heinrich is a bad guy, I am just saying that you then need to worry about rebuilding chemistry.
    I am a fan of Good basketball, great fans and Rip City!
  1. Jaspitzer
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    Posted 04/28/2009 3:22 AM

    keep blake and move Sergio and Outlaw for hinrich.... thats the move
    I am a fan of Kneepads for all our players!!!
  1. monopoman
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    Posted 04/28/2009 4:12 AM

    Let me tell you the reason why Sergio is playing over Bayless right now. To show off Sergio when they attempt to trade him during the off season.

    He also has a lot more experience then Bayless but the same thing happened with Jarret Jack everyone moaned about how much he was being played. Then low and behold he is traded very quickly during the draft. There is no way KP gives up on Bayless when he went so out of his way to get him in the first place. Obviously some blockbuster trade might come along that Bayless gets moved for.

    But Bayless has a future here barring some sort of ridiculous blockbuster trade. KP wanted Bayless bad and I saw video where he was talking about him over and over. Sure he would have rather had a guy like Rose instead but no way in hell could he get Rose without giving up major players.

    Anyways I think the move is just to sign a free agent in the off season really you don't need to trade anyone on the team. Sure I wouldn't mind seeing Sergio taken off the team but the hate on Outlaw is really quite dumb. He has won many games for us and as pointed out by many analysts a lot better then we give him credit for. Does he have problems sure but every player in the league except the godly players have problems.

    Players that don't have any downsides seemingly are as such..

    CP3
    Kobe
    Roy
    Lebron
    D Howard
    Duncan (getting old)
    Dirk (getting old)

    If your hoping that Outlaw ever becomes on that level your kidding yourself. But for a bench player he is one of the better ones and if you can't see that your blind.
  1. Dman
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    Posted 04/28/2009 8:15 AM

    Have you been watching the games or are you just reading what was written 6 months ago? Because if you had been watching, you would see that LTrain is banging, bumpin and scrambling better than anyone on the team. He is playing the best defense on Yao, without fouling out. He has been our most consistent player for the last 50 games. He has practically been averaging double doubles over the last 30 games. What does he have to do for you people?
    I am a fan of Since 1969 when the NBA awarded Portland the franchise.
  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 04/28/2009 9:09 AM

    Hold the phone. No doubt that LA has been BALLIN'. He is one of the top two players on the team and the best PF in the Western Conference. Not to say he is soft, but if he keeps that killer instict for a full season, he becomes the premiere PF in the league. I just checked the list and Channing, Ruffin, Randolph and LaFrentz all are FA this offseason. I think if Channing does what is best for his career, he walks and keeps a summer home here in Portland. LaFrentz is gone, we know that, Ruffin-gone, and Randolph-gone. That clears up a lot of cap-space. What you will then see is Portland gearing up to make big offers to LA, Roy, Joel and Blake in 2010. I think in the next three years you will see the character of these guys tested. Do they go for the money or are they loyal to the fans and the team here in Portland. I'm not talking about guys like Channing, I'm talking about our starters, and our bigtime future back-ups like Joel and Blake. I know they have taken smaller contracts already, but the question is will they do it again?
    I am a fan of Good basketball, great fans and Rip City!
  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 04/28/2009 9:33 AM

    Realistically, you have to resist the temptation to go sign a big contract with D-Miles back on the salary for two more years. You need to save all the capspace you can so you can sign your CORE in 2010.
    I am a fan of Good basketball, great fans and Rip City!
  1. SithLord13
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    Posted 04/30/2009 3:30 AM

    Bosh can get to the basket on offense but he's almost nonexistent on defense. I think LMA brings more to the table. We could upgrade Outlaw but I would like him to stay with another addition. He's a good forward with a lot of offensive talent. But we need a definite force inside. There's not a specific name that's being shopped around that can be the answer but Nate could turn some names into the players we need.
    I am a fan of the Rip City, where amazing will happen in 2012
  1. PTBunitd
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    Posted 04/30/2009 9:53 AM

    Only one thing to say..

    LA by the end of the season was being declared as one of the top defensive Power Forwards in the league by ESPN. He may be "soft" but he can hit mid range shots AND an occasional 3. Also, i think he is out to show all you doubters he isn't as soft as you like to claim. He's been dunking on Houston a lot in the playoffs. Next year i see him making a run for the All-Star team.

    Also one truth, LA is from Texas.. nothing soft comes out of Texas. Nuff' Said.
    I am a fan of go ahead and close off the paint, we'll still destroy you from the perimeter.
  1. PTBunitd
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    Posted 04/30/2009 9:56 AM

    oh and i completely trust KP on his decisions.

    i dont feel the need to sit here and debate what would be good for the team to do in the offseason anymore. I think he has it under control, and whatever he does, we can have faith it will be in best interest for the team.

    oh and idk this for sure, but i have a feeling Kobe Bean Bryant will be headed to New York sometime either this off-season with his option, or next year in free agency. Why do i say this? Does anyone else realize Mike D'Antoni was his favorite Italian league basketball player? Thus the Numero Ocho he wore his first couple of seasons in Los Angeles. oh, who's the coach for the Knickerbockers now? Mike D'Antoni.

    Anyone liking the thought of no more Kobe in LA? Brandon Roy will become the dominant 2 Guard in the West.
    I am a fan of go ahead and close off the paint, we'll still destroy you from the perimeter.
  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 04/30/2009 4:42 PM

    Maybe nothing soft comes out, but remember how soft Yao was until....this year? I actually felt good for him not being soft this year, now I'm not so happy. I'm glad Portland has been able to do what they have.
    I am a fan of Good basketball, great fans and Rip City!
  1. Bertram
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    Posted 04/30/2009 10:16 PM

    Not saying Aldridge can't be a beast, but right now he is. In fact we don't have any bangers down low except for Pryzbilla and Oden..but Oden doesn't have the experience yet. We need someone to be a banger at the PF spot. Aldridge I believe can do that next season, but right now what I have seen he's soft. Even at his best, he's soft.

    You can have a Jumpshot and be a beast. Pau Gasol is the best example. Last year, real soft finesse player. This season he's still a finesse player but he will not back down from a challenge. Everyone is overlooking Pau Gasol. That is the best PF in the league right now. Aldridge will get there next season, 95% guaranteed.
    I am a fan of B-Roy and LaMonster!
  1. mandrews1824
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    Posted 05/04/2009 8:01 AM

    For sure we need a better defensive point gaurd. sure bayless is growing but how long will that take.by the time he and or greg oden is fully grown we could have been lost brandon,rudy, or even la.We neeed those players. rudy provides the 3 the for us when we need them but i still dont think he gets enough playing time that he deserves.Brandon roy is our team leader and fits perfect into the blazers roster we need him to stay around. hes going to be a great and strong leader in time.We need a more defensive player and better shooting point gaurd steve blake has no D and he we need a pg whos going to take smarter shots and also one we know can knock them down. if we could afford baron or kirk get rid of blake and travis in a package deal, get oden outa foul trouble and back into the game .trailblazers chances of making it to the 2nd round next year would be greatly increased.We need a season and playoff vetran right now brandon isnt ready to take on that roll.we need another scorer becuase its sad when two players are left with the role of scoring 50 points outa 77.sorry travis but your not playoff ready and i dont think that the team can afford to wait around until you are. It took jermaine o'neal 6 or 7 yrs to come outa his shell .with that said blake and travis could make a nice deal for a seasoned vetran who could play in tought situations take smart shot and help brandon and la run a young team.
    I am a fan of of travis and blake and totally disagree with this trade
  1. SithLord13
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    Posted 05/04/2009 9:55 AM

    I think our biggest priority is a PG. We don't have a leader on the court who can take this team forward. Bayless isn't really a bust IMO but not really the player we wanted him to be. He's too raw and may be should have stayed for a couple more years to learn the game. Now that he's here he better pick up some pace and at least turn into a reliable backup. It's one thing to have European youngsters coming in, and a very different thing to have kids from the states come to play in NBA. Somehow they get better education and know the game more in Europe, over here I'm not really impressed with the guys with 1 year of college experience thinking that they can set the world on fire. Better restrictions should apply.
    Back to the issue at hand, I think we should make a run at Kidd. He probably knows that Dallas won't mount to anything and at least come here with his huge salary where he can actually lead some players to success. We can use his experience as well as technical knowledge to train players like Bayless for the future.
    I am a fan of the Rip City, where amazing will happen in 2012
  1. KingKoopa
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    Posted 05/04/2009 10:40 AM

    Bring in Joel Freeland!
    I am a fan of Marcus Camby! :)
  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 05/04/2009 11:56 AM

    I actually think Bayless was everything I expected out of him this year. I would't even say he under performed with the talent ahead of him in the lineup he has done just fine. I think if you give Bayless the summer and training camp to really get into things he will be a rockstar this coming season. He has nothing to prove in summer league, so he will probably play minimal minutes there, if he even goes. They might have him take that time and work with Blazer staff in private work outs. Now going into the coming season I expect much more from him, but looking back over the season I think I got everything I expected. I was listening to MSP today and they were talking about tryign to get Mike Bibby and I totally disagree. I think that 1) you would have to give up too much to get him and 2) he isn't the right fit. He only solidified that with his comments on First Take this morning about Josh Smith's failed under-the-leg dunk attempt against Miami. Rather than saying "we talked to him about how we don't really want to give the other team any reasons to play harder against us... this puts our team in a bad light now...we look like we are out to try and show guys up rather than win the game... it was disrespectful... that's not what this game is about," instead he said "you know that's a dunk he normally would make." What? Are you kidding me? This is the PLAYOFFS! To me, that is an attitude I don't want as my PG in the locker room. Evidently, Bibby Sr. didn't teach his son to repect the game. I hope they get RUN in the next round. Now I believe Portland should stand pretty pat, I don't mind developing Bayless behind Blake and then making the switch when it is time. With that said, I like what Rick Kamla said about Anre Miller. If what he said about Miller is true, I would love to have that guy on my team. I can't say that about many of the other PG's in the league, but if Portland could swing that on draft day by shortening up the bench then that would be pretty sweet. Again, I'm not saying make it a priority. I'm happy with standing pat, but it would be pretty cool.
    I am a fan of Good basketball, great fans and Rip City!
  1. rob10s14
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    Posted 05/04/2009 1:53 PM

    is it possible the blazers trade up in the draft to get a point guard like Rubio since a lot of the lottery teams already have solid young point guards?
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  1. shighkin
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    Posted 05/04/2009 3:03 PM

    As far as I know Rubio is basically a lock to go top 5.
  1. Isaac
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    Posted 05/04/2009 3:33 PM

    Sorry but i disagree with needing a veteran PG or the thought of needing to trade Blake at all. He played really well for us this year and made smart plays, big shots and was one of the best in assist/turnover. I think the overall big key isnt getting tons of vets or new players, its just improving the guys we have. They are all still pretty young and have room to improve, then add in Martell and you have another Scorer/3-pointer shooter to take some pressure off Roy.
    I also think Outlaw -can- play the 4 and cause match up problems for other PF's though sometimes it would end up being the other way around. I doubt he would always be the 4 though, hes versatile and can play 3 or 4 and usually have an advantage with his freakish hops.
  1. KingKoopa
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    Posted 05/04/2009 4:12 PM

    It sounds like the Blake/PG discussion could go on for the remainder of the offseason. I found this take on Oregonlive to be pretty good, though a bit scathing. Well, like they say, sometimes the truth hurts:

    http://blog.oregonlive.com/blazers/2009/05/you_be_the_gm_steve_blake_1.html

    One concept I'd really like to see die off a bit is the "our guys are just going to get better" mantra so many people seem so quick to serve up. I agree, our guys are young, but a certain select few of them (even with their respective youthful ages) simply aren't going to take any more significant strides. And even a larger number of our players will continue to get gradually better, but not by extremely impressive, career-changing amounts. The leaps and bounds Brandon has taken are inspiring, but not the norm. Is it true that Blake and Outlaw still have room to improve? Yes. But I'd be willing to say, at this point in their careers, their continued improvements will not be much. Outlaw isn't all of a sudden going to bump his head and magically come away with increased basketball IQ. Blake isn't going to accidentally stumble into a vat of toxic waste and come out faster or stronger. I think the improvements they make from here on out will be very subtle, they have nearly reached their respective ceilings, what you see is what you get. Outlaw will continue to be a scorer, though hopefully he finds more consistency. Blake will continue to be consistent, though he's not going to become a slasher and other PGs will continue to blow by him. Eventually, "potential" runs out and you're left only with the ceiling level of "talent" you can expect to get.
    I am a fan of Marcus Camby! :)
  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 05/04/2009 4:30 PM

    So my question to you is, why isn't that enough? This is a team that one 54 games, made the playoffs and MOST of them will continue to grow in pretty large strides. There are three main players that you can expect to not grow much in Travis, Blake, and Przybilla. The rest still will grow a lot and team chemistry will grow. With the rest of the team getting better, that means defenses will have to change against Portland allowing Blake, Przybilla, and Travis easier opportunities to play their game. In effect, the team making those players better. So why throw a wrench into all of that and take up cap space that we will need when resigning Brandon, Oden, Aldrige, Przybilla, and Blake within the next three years. Come on! Newton's law, every action has an equal and opposite reaction, that applies to basketball too. If the rest of the players on the team get better that means the defenses have to play them honestly which keeps them from double teaming the other guys when needed. If the defense chooses to double team, that opens the floor for someone else. By other players getting better, so will the stats of those who have hit their ceiling. Again, we need to look at the whole picture and not just a small part of it.
    I am a fan of Good basketball, great fans and Rip City!
  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 05/04/2009 9:47 PM

    Nothing new to add just pushing Mike off page one. This is a great discussion by the way.
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  1. Travis
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    Posted 05/05/2009 12:07 AM

    Good job RIP keep it up
    I am a fan of a run at those rings in 2011 when GO comes back to dominate!!!!!!!!!!!
  1. SithLord13
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    Posted 05/05/2009 1:26 AM

    Rubio will definitely go top 5. So I wouldn't mind packaging some names like Outlaw or Blake to move up. We can use a player like him. Didn't see him play other than some videos but the 'experts' are quite high on him. If he can be a good PG then we'll have some nice talent going forward.
    I am a fan of the Rip City, where amazing will happen in 2012
  1. RipCityRevival
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    Posted 05/05/2009 9:11 AM

    Just because he is going top 5 this year doesn't mean a whole lot. I actually think Bayless is a better fit that Rubio, I also think Bayless will be a better PG. Rubio is a tremendous talent for sure and he would go top 15 any year, but this is a down year for NBA draftees. How many of you can name 10 players coming out this year that could make an impact year one? The talent level coming out this year is NOTHING like the year LA and Roy were drafted. So at this stage I wouldn't trade up to get Rubio. He can go to New York or Golden State. You know the Clippers and Thunder don't need him. I wouldn't do it. Rubio could be a Jose Calderon type player in three years, but by then Bayless should already have a banner hanging in the RG if not a Ring. I just don't think the risk vs reward is worth trading up to get him. I think with the development of Rudy, Bayless, Oden and Batum, you will see the PG position open up and come a lot easier to Blake and Bayless. It will be much easier for them to do their thing.
    I am a fan of Good basketball, great fans and Rip City!
  1. Andrew
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    Posted 05/05/2009 1:27 PM

    i gotta say, watching the magic, hedo would be one hell of an addition, but where would he play? Second, as good as Jason kidd is, he had an off year it seemed, and plus that, hes not exactly mid twenties anymore. Here's a totally crazy idea for a trade, trade outlaw, sergio and maybe a washing machine to houston and get brooks, bring him back to oregon. What ya'll think about that?
    I am a fan of winning a championship and never hearing the words jailblazers or bowie again.
  1. damir
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    Posted 05/05/2009 2:23 PM

    There is no way that Houston gives up Brooks - especially for Outlaw and Sergio.
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  1. Andrew
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    Posted 05/06/2009 11:46 AM

    now, i know raef's contract got a lot of attention during the trade deadline, but was there any interest in outlaw at all? Most of the trades i heard about involved him as kind of a throw in. It'd be nice to be able to not second guess and be able to know what teams would be interested in him. Although i think that we don't need a pg at the moment, but rather a pf to come in for LA. Frye just wasn't doing it for me, and i think picking up a decent pf would be possible, hell even K-mart brings intensity when he comes in. But no matter what does and doesnt happen this offseason, im still counting the weeks till tip off and then its just a few months before Roy gets the mvp.
    I am a fan of winning a championship and never hearing the words jailblazers or bowie again.
  1. Bertram
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    Posted 05/06/2009 3:28 PM

    Weird how one person said Brandon isn't the veteran who can step up in playoff big games.

    I'm sorry, but averaging 28 points a game in the playoffs isn't ready?

    I'm also finding it weird how some people say Bayless should ride the bench and learn the game because he's too raw. The best way to learn is through experience. Did we not go into the playoffs to get a taste of it and give our players EXPERIENCE?

    Bayless is back-up next year to get experience playing.
    I am a fan of B-Roy and LaMonster!
  1. Hardwoodballer7
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    Posts: 29

    Posted 05/06/2009 3:37 PM

    i think KP should do something to Get Ricky Rubio!! i think hes the PG that we need running the floor he can be the floor general i think hes the real deal i think if we get him it would make it much easier for Roy!! common KP get Ricky!! Blake can back up Ricky!! starters: Ricky,Roy,Webster,LA,Joel. Bench: Blake,Rudy,Nicolas,Outlaw,Oden!! How does that sound?
  1. Bertram
    Bertram
    Posts: 803

    Posted 05/06/2009 3:39 PM

    Not happening.
    I am a fan of B-Roy and LaMonster!
  1. Hardwoodballer7
    Hardwoodballer7
    Posts: 29

    Posted 05/06/2009 3:44 PM

    hey anything can heppen it probably wont but u never know i think Ricky is the guy we need!! i think we can trade some players to get him if he got roy and LA i cant see why he cant get Ricky!! hes KP!!
  1. RipCityRevival
    RipCityRevival
    Posts: 684

    Posted 05/06/2009 10:56 PM

    First of all, RICKY IS NOT READY FOR THE NBA! The kid is raw, he has a lot of talent, but the dude is weak! He would get beat up as a PG in this league. There is now way if Bayless couldn't start on this team that Rubio could. The guy has mad skills, but like I said, he is a couple years from being a true starter. This is a really weak draft. I am not really looking forward to it. I am more interested to see what KP does in re-signing Brandon and LA. 10yr contracts, maybe?
    I am a fan of Good basketball, great fans and Rip City!
  1. Mike McClelland
    Mike McClelland
    Posts: 24

    Posted 05/06/2009 11:09 PM

    I'd like to see Portland do 3 things during the offseason:

    1. Go after a long-term, game changing PG. Mike Conely would be a nice fit, regardless of his Oden connection.

    2. Get a legit backup PF who's solid all-around and can still hit a jumper... a player like Carl Landry would be ideal.

    3. Get rid of Travis Outlaw. He's not disciplined enough to ever be reliable, and he's a free agent after this year. It's time we cashed in on his value.

    If things don't work out, I'd still like to see at least one of those things happen before next year's trade deadline. This is Portland's road to championship contention, and I trust KP knows it too.
  1. PTBunitd
    PTBunitd
    Posts: 31

    Posted 05/07/2009 10:36 AM

    The logical 3 things Portland will do this offseason.

    1. Get Bayless ready to start next season. This is his year before the team option. It's put up or shut up time. Sitting back and waiting on Bayless next year is a waste of time and money. Portland has enough in their starting 5 to make up for his inexperience the first couple of games. If Portland goes for a new Point, i dont see it happening til next year.

    2. Try to get Frye back, in his likely departure, try to get Joel numero dos.

    3. Outlaw stays one more year, again put up or shut up. This is the year that everyone in Portland shows they have it, or they don't. Outlaw, Blake, Roy, L-Train, Oden, Sergio, etc. etc. are all in either their last contract year, or have a team option next year. It's time for the players to prove they belong in Portland. Of course, Roy and L-Train i think have already proven it.. obviously.

    All we can hope is that at the end of next season, the players leave enough cap space for everyone KP wants back, to come back.

    I believe it will happen though.

    It would be a disappointing day if Roy and Aldridge chose money over the team.
    I am a fan of go ahead and close off the paint, we'll still destroy you from the perimeter.
  1. Bertram
    Bertram
    Posts: 803

    Posted 05/07/2009 11:00 AM

    Very. Like Baron Davis going to LA after his career was resurrected in Oakland.

    Outlaw will most likely get traded by trade deadline next february..I'd be surprised if he wasn't.
    I am a fan of B-Roy and LaMonster!
  1. Mike McClelland
    Mike McClelland
    Posts: 24

    Posted 05/07/2009 3:23 PM

    Portland will sign Roy and Aldridge to extensions. No team can outbid the Blazers for them. They know they'll be taken care of here.
  1. damir
    damir
    Posts: 43

    Posted 05/07/2009 4:27 PM

    At this point in time, I don't see how Portland won't resign LMA and Roy unless something drastic happens to change the relationship from now until their rookie contracts are up.
    I am a fan of
  1. Hardwoodballer7
    Hardwoodballer7
    Posts: 29

    Posted 05/09/2009 1:30 PM

    I think Ricky is way better than Bayless i mean Blazers are my Team but i feel if we can get Ricky Rubio it would be great hes another steve nash and pistol pete this guy has bene playing Pro ball since he was 14!! i know hes ready whoever gets him gots there starting point guard.
  1. Jaspitzer
    Jaspitzer
    Posts: 45

    Posted 05/22/2009 3:34 PM

    Espn is reporting that Nate Robinson wants to be signed by Portland.... Probably not the move we wanna make. Philly isn't not gonna signe Andre Miller which is who we want badly.
    I am a fan of Kneepads for all our players!!!
  1. RipCityRevival
    RipCityRevival
    Posts: 684

    Posted 05/23/2009 8:29 AM

    I don't know about all that. Yes, Andre Miller would be a better fit for Portland, but Nate Robinson is Jerryd Bayless in 5years but now (try to follow that). If he wants to be signed here, it is because he wants to play with Roy. This was a possible trade that kind of got me excited when I heard the Sergio for Nate rumor at midseason. He is a legit starting PG, still an upgrade. He provides the penetration to the basket that Portland needs from that position along with experience running the point. I think the one thing that could hurt him is his long range jumper. I don't think his is GREAT, but it is better than Sergio's. Now he is a restricted Free Agent which means all New York has to do is continue to outbid Portland and force Portland to either pay too much for Nate's market value or give up and let New York take back. What you might see is New York and Portland do a sign and trade, but I am not sure Portland has the pieces that New York wants unless they want another first round pick from this year's draft, which I don't think that holds enough value to make much of a difference. On the other side of that, Sergio might fit better in to D'Antoni's game plan over there than Nate does, but I am not even so sure about that. Andre Miller sounds like he would be a good fit, but I have to think about what they were saying on Courtside the other night. You watch his game and he is a solid PG, good leader, and is one of the all-time Blazer killers, but outside of playing against Portland, where are the wins? With him at the PG his teams always does decent, but not GREAT! To say he is the PG to take Portland to the next level is hard to agree with because he hasn't done that with any of his teams so far. You can give me all the reasons in the world about how perfect of a fit he is for Portland, but I would not be doing my part if I didn't call "scoreboard" on him.
    I am a fan of Good basketball, great fans and Rip City!
  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
    Tobyus Sanchezo
    Posts: 1669

    Posted 05/23/2009 12:05 PM

    Blazers should talk to the Nets about aquirin' V i n s a n i t y
    I am a fan of multiple All-Stars on the Blazers roster this season!
  1. Rick
    Rick
    Posts: 33

    Posted 05/23/2009 1:37 PM

    Anyone not named Roy, Aldridge, and Oden can go. Offer Roy any contract he wants and offer LA an appropriate contract this off-season. I can see LA passing on a non-max contract in the belief he can put up numbers next season that would garner such a contract. I'm partial to keeping Bayless and Batum too in hopes we can develop them more next season. I can imagine some crazy trades that can occur around the draft.I'm expecting the unexpected this off-season.
    I am a fan of pritch-slapping!
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