Top Ten Most OVERrated players
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  1. HoorawRPwnage
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    Posted 10/22/2010 8:04 PM

    I created the most underrated article and people showed interest so now I'm making the OVERrated article
    My Top Ten are (In no particular Order)
    Amare Stoudamire
    John Wall
    Rajon Rondo
    Kobe Bryant
    Derrick Rose
    Hedo Turgolu
    Brandon Jennings
    Steve Nash
    Antwan Jamison
    Carmelo Anthony
    I am a fan of Lamarcus Aldridge, the 2011-2012 MVP
  1. Fallen_Deity
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    Posted 10/22/2010 9:29 PM

    John Wall hasn't played a season yet so Ill wait to pass judgement on that.  I hate Kobe but he is not overrated. definately agree with Hedo and Amare
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  1. Shawn503
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    Posted 10/22/2010 9:33 PM

    Rondo's overrated, but not enough to be on a top ten list
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  1. cransford24
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    Posted 10/22/2010 10:58 PM

    I definately agree about nash, Torkoglu,and Amare.  But also there is no way Rondo, kobe or Melo should be on this list.  I hate Melo and Rondo but I have to admit they are ridiculously good.  I think Melo is as good of a scorer as Lebron, maybe better, and Rondo is a solid offensive player and arguably the best defensive pg in the nba.  Kobe has the most complete offensive repotoire in the nba and also is an underated one on one defensive player.  The only problem I have with Kobe is that he sometimes takes to many risks on d which leaves people open for 3's. 
    I am a fan of the Blazers draft selections. Feels good to finally be able to say that
  1. cransford24
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    Posted 10/22/2010 11:07 PM

    10. Lamarcus
    9. John Wall( I don't know for sure how good he is since I only watched him a couple times at Kentucky but he wasnt that immpresive when I watched him)
    8.Lebron ( he's an incredible athlete and a very good basketball player but he is also a very overated player on d and he really needs to improve his jumper and free throw shooting)
    7. Rodney Stuckey
    6. Jason Kidd
    5. Al Jefferson
    4. Dirk
    3. Amare
    2. Steve Nash
    1. Chris Bosh

    Bosh allowed shaq to score almost 50 points on him last year.  He is very good offensively, maybe the best in the game at pf, but he is terrible on d. 
    I am a fan of the Blazers draft selections. Feels good to finally be able to say that
  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 10/23/2010 1:39 AM

    Posted By cransford24 on 10/22/2010 11:07 PM
    10. Lamarcus
    9. John Wall( I don't know for sure how good he is since I only watched him a couple times at Kentucky but he wasnt that immpresive when I watched him)
    8.Lebron ( he's an incredible athlete and a very good basketball player but he is also a very overated player on d and he really needs to improve his jumper and free throw shooting)
    7. Rodney Stuckey
    6. Jason Kidd
    5. Al Jefferson
    4. Dirk
    3. Amare
    2. Steve Nash
    1. Chris Bosh

    Bosh allowed shaq to score almost 50 points on him last year.  He is very good offensively, maybe the best in the game at pf, but he is terrible on d. 
    I wish we had Al Jefferson right now. I think when he is healthy he is actually pretty good. But Jason Kidd?? I would agree he has lost a step or three with his age, but he is a very good pg. But why are you guys putting John Wall on your list when he hasn't even played a regular season NBA game yet?
    I don't want to think of my list all the way through right now, but i think Nash is right at the top, and so is Ray Allen, Amar'e, Hedo, mo Williams, and finally... David Stern.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 10/23/2010 10:13 AM

    LOL @ Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash and John Wall on the list.
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  1. cransford24
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    Posted 10/23/2010 11:49 AM

    forgot about mo.  He is on there to.  Al Jefferson is very good offensively and a beast on the boards, but like Amare and Bosh he is not that good on d and also is very injury prone.
    I am a fan of the Blazers draft selections. Feels good to finally be able to say that
  1. TayC
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    Posted 10/23/2010 3:03 PM

    Ahh, hmmm i know one guy, who gets alot of crap for not being as good as he should, so ill put him down first.
    LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE- love him to death(nohomo) but the guy is way better than how he plays, i dont know what his deal is, but he'll make it or break it for sure in the next couple years.
    Derrick Rose- another, awesome player, but did not live up to his hype. Rookie of the year 08, but hasnt played like the all star type player, everyone made him out to be, Bulls go no where in the playoffs.
    Trevor Ariza- he could play alot harder than he does, his judgement on jump shots is very bad as well.
    RAJON RONDO- i strongly believe that a jump shot should be in EVERY players game, i believe it to be one of the pillars in the game of basketball, and as a PG, someone who is going to run the offense, be all over the court, ready to score at all times, in any way needed, you should have a jump shot. So i guess that leads into the next one.
    Andre Miller- I dont belive he has the right skills to lead this team's offense, getting a bit older, not as explosive as he used to be, and agian, no jump shot.
    SHAQ- Size is everything to him, but its not everything in basketball, like he can ruin an AND1, just by getting a AND1.
    Al Harrington- est.1980, also last time he won a game. it seems where ever he goes, the corresponding team blows, he is perhaps the only big-ish guy, who CAN make a long shot, but i would never let him. Sorry Al, but $35.99 sneakers just aint gonna cut it.

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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 10/23/2010 4:49 PM

    I'm going to have to disagree with you on Derrick Rose. Without Rose, the bulls wouldn't have made the playoffs last year. Without Rose that Celtics series wouldn't have gone to 7 games. Rose has players around him now, so he should be more effective. I'm not ready to call him overrated yet.

    I'm not a Derrick Rose lover by any means, in fact coming out of college I thought that he wasn't going to be very effective his first season...oh how I was wrong.
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  1. FamousRoy
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    Posted 10/23/2010 5:09 PM

    DeMarcus Cousins and Tyreke Evans.  Not that fantasy sports matter, but I was a little disappointed seeing Tyreke as the number 4 shooting guard and Brandon as the 7.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 10/23/2010 5:36 PM

    MY friend praises tyeke evans alot, i actually have never seen him play. so i cant comment on that.
    And DeMarcus cousins, its his first year, its like the john wall thing, hasnt played yet, i actually think he will be more beneficial to his team, than wall is to wash. i expect cousins to get rookie of the year.

    @ bertram, alright, i will give you that they couldnt of made the playoffs without him, however, the boston series, that was all ben gordon if i can remember correctly. Ben Gordon, hitting PHAT 3's @ the buzzer to push it to the 3rd overtime. I would like to see him fall into a definite position though, for me he is still in between a SG and PG, and if he could choose one and excel at it, i feel he would help his team more, but then again at the same time, you could lose his ability to play both positions decently. He isnt an efficient scorer, and when he takes the game into his hands, it ends costing the team, more often than it benefits them.
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  1. HoorawRPwnage
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    Posted 10/23/2010 8:02 PM

    People say Kobes the best which isnt true because he only gets 27 points and less rebounds and assists then lebron. How can you say that Kobe is better than LeBron. I think John WAll is overrated cause when i ask "whos going to be the best PG in the league in 3 years" people will say John WAll just because he was the #1 pick. LOOK AT KWAIME BROWN
    I am a fan of Lamarcus Aldridge, the 2011-2012 MVP
  1. HoorawRPwnage
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    Posted 10/23/2010 8:07 PM

    Lamarcus is UNDERrated HANDS DOWN. LeBron is the best player in the league, hes a very streaky shooter and hes not overrated. Have you seen him chases somebody down? Hes also a great one on one defender. Al Jefferson is underrated! Chris Bosh is kinda overrated but hes goinda be underrated soon because hes playing with the best player in the league and the 2nd best 2SG in the league(Sorry but Brandon Isnt 2nd best) Dirk is Overrated but not enough that you can put him on this list. NOBODY talks about Rodney Stuckey at all. Jason Kidd isnt that overrated. I agree with the rest
    I am a fan of Lamarcus Aldridge, the 2011-2012 MVP
  1. TayC
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    Posted 10/23/2010 8:38 PM

    Alright, im sure tom feels the same way about me, the way i feel towards you right now.
    Kwame Brown, was like one of the only #1 draft picks, that was a complete FLOP. You could count greg oden, but when he does get to play, he plays like the beast he is. You cant UNDER or OVER rate Wall, because he hasnt even played yet. To why your getting on LeBron i dont know, everyone who follows basketball knows that he is currently the best player in the league.
    LeBrons Stats, dont make him the best player in the league, its how mature he is on court, it is his passing ability for a SF, its pretty damn good. Its how efficient he is at driving down the lane, and finishing with a dunk, not settling for a pair of FT. Yes, he has amazing stats, back to back MvP's, but you dont think its the fact that he is a natural born leader? Or how naturally easy the game just comes for him at times?
    :/ In my Opinion:
    You're wrong on LaMarcus as well. He doesnt rebound as well as someone with his size should. Considering the fact that the Blazers lost both their Centers last year, you would think Aldridge would of stepped it up and grab a few,heck, a lot more boards, but instead he just scored more. Well it wasnt a point deficiency the Blazers had, it was a Rebound deficiency, a "Bigs" deficiency. 

    Bosh i dont see how he could be overrated, he held that Toronto team together for the past 7 years, not to mention he is one of the best big guys who can straight up NAIL a medium range jumper, and he has developed a 3. 
    Actually Dwayne Wade is currently the 1st overall ranked SG in the league, Kobe fell second,(sad face)
    I  dont see how Bosh playing on that team will make him underrated.
    Dirk is just amazing, i dont know how you could even say that he is overrated, he plays like an elite, and he is one of the elite.
    Rodney Stuckey, lost cause, you should of used your Kwame Brown line on him, becuase honestly stuckey is one of the most inefficient scorers with a basketball.

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  1. cransford24
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    Posted 10/23/2010 10:43 PM

    Posted By TayC on 10/23/2010 8:38 PM
    Bosh i dont see how he could be overrated, he held that Toronto team together for the past 7 years, not to mention he is one of the best big guys who can straight up NAIL a medium range jumper, and he has developed a 3. 
    Actually Dwayne Wade is currently the 1st overall ranked SG in the league, Kobe fell second,(sad face)
    I  dont see how Bosh playing on that team will make him underrated.
    Dirk is just amazing, i dont know how you could even say that he is overrated, he plays like an elite, and he is one of the elite.

    Like I said, the reason Bosh and Dirk are overated is because both of them can not defend at all.  Especially against bigger, stronger players.  I agree that they are both extremely good offensive players but they allow almost as many points as they score, sometimes even more if they are playing against people like shaq and dwight.  That is why I think the Heat are going to get knocked out of the playoffs by either the celtics, magic or the Lakers.  Because thier only big man who can defend is Joel Anthony and he wont be playing much since he is a huge liability on offense.  Either Dwight Howard, Kg/shaq/Jermaine, or Pau and Bynum are going to end up dominating Bosh and they will end up beating the Heat because of that.
    I am a fan of the Blazers draft selections. Feels good to finally be able to say that
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    Posted 10/23/2010 11:23 PM

    Posted By cransford24 on 10/23/2010 10:43 PM
    Posted By TayC on 10/23/2010 8:38 PM
    Bosh i dont see how he could be overrated, he held that Toronto team together for the past 7 years, not to mention he is one of the best big guys who can straight up NAIL a medium range jumper, and he has developed a 3. 
    Actually Dwayne Wade is currently the 1st overall ranked SG in the league, Kobe fell second,(sad face)
    I  dont see how Bosh playing on that team will make him underrated.
    Dirk is just amazing, i dont know how you could even say that he is overrated, he plays like an elite, and he is one of the elite.

    Like I said, the reason Bosh and Dirk are overated is because both of them can not defend at all.  Especially against bigger, stronger players.  I agree that they are both extremely good offensive players but they allow almost as many points as they score, sometimes even more if they are playing against people like shaq and dwight.  That is why I think the Heat are going to get knocked out of the playoffs by either the celtics, magic or the Lakers.  Because thier only big man who can defend is Joel Anthony and he wont be playing much since he is a huge liability on offense.  Either Dwight Howard, Kg/shaq/Jermaine, or Pau and Bynum are going to end up dominating Bosh and they will end up beating the Heat because of that.
    I don't know why you'd expect Bosh to play good defense on someone like Shaq, Dwight or Bynum, Bosh isn't a true center, he's a pf. KG is/was a stellar defender and he couldn't defend Shaq. Shaq outweighs those guys by a lot so I would be really surprised if they did play good D on him.
    I don't think Bosh's defense is great but I think he will play mostly pf this year so he will do better, instead of trying to play out of position like with the Raptors. I think Bosh is rated just right, but I don't think he should be paid the same as Lebron or especially D Wade.
    Dirk on the other hand is really overrated. On top of not playing D, he doesn't rebound either. I think his rpg are even worse than Lamarcus'!
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  1. teez-master
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    Posted 10/24/2010 8:48 AM

    Dirk can be a better defender but chooses not to. If you actually think about it, he doent play tough d because if he gets into fould trouble, his team is screwed because hes the only one on that team who can produce offensively. Kidd only takes open 3s and doesnt really get that chance to often. Butler turned from an allstar slasher in washington a couple years ago to a jab step-one-two step-jumpshot player but he doesn't shoot the ball too well.Marion lost his explosiveness.Terry is just too streaky and when hes off, hes useless. So if you think about it, dirk actually is underrated because he can carry a team to 10x50+ win seasons into the playoffs (some decent runs). hes still a huge mismatch for the opposing d. He has a great post game, best shooting bigman, greatest mid range shot, can slash and get to the line, great free throw shooter, Fade away specialist, good 3 pt shooter etc etc. Dirk is SOOO underrated in my opinion. Just because hes bad at d doesn't mean anything. Half the players that are good on offense are terrible on defense but dirk out plays all the others on offense, you all might not agree with me but its all true.

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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 10/24/2010 8:59 AM

    Butler in Washington was a slasher and a mid-range shooter. He takes the same role in Dallas. I wouldn't put Dirk as underrated or overrated. Great offensive player but in a playoff series, easily scouted. Iso on the right elbow is where his strength is.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 10/24/2010 3:45 PM

    Posted By Bertram on 10/24/2010 8:59 AM
    Butler in Washington was a slasher and a mid-range shooter. He takes the same role in Dallas. I wouldn't put Dirk as underrated or overrated. Great offensive player but in a playoff series, easily scouted. Iso on the right elbow is where his strength is.
    Yes, i think butler is a great player, i miss him being on the lake show.
    Like I said, the reason Bosh and Dirk are overated is because both of them can not defend at all.  Especially against bigger, stronger players.  I agree that they are both extremely good offensive players but they allow almost as many points as they score, sometimes even more if they are playing against people like shaq and dwight.  That is why I think the Heat are going to get knocked out of the playoffs by either the celtics, magic or the Lakers.  Because thier only big man who can defend is Joel Anthony and he wont be playing much since he is a huge liability on offense.  Either Dwight Howard, Kg/shaq/Jermaine, or Pau and Bynum are going to end up dominating Bosh and they will end up beating the Heat because of that.
    @ Cransford: Yea, i can feel you, they do lack defensive skills. But you never know, with these team, packing as much HEAT as it is, hahah, they might learn a thing or two form each other, they might feel more motivated to actually get up there and block.

    Tom was right on shaq outweighing Bosh, but i understood what you meant(bosh cant guard the bigs) But basketball workds both ways, if  bosh can draw the foul then your back to square one. ;)
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  1. cransford24
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    Posted 10/25/2010 1:00 AM

    yeah it might not matter that he cant gaurd the bigs since the rest of the heats lineup is very solid on d and he ussualy wont have to gaurd bigger players, but since miamis weakness is c's he might have to play some time at c and I think when that happens he will get dominated.  Also I think the Heat will really have problems with the celtics since the celtics will probably go with Jermaine O'neil and Glen Davis at pf a lot of the time and probably either of them will not have a very difficult time overpowering Bosh.  Same with the Lakers since Odom can overpower Bosh. I admit I probably put him to high on this list, but I still think that he is probably 4th behind Dirk, Nash and Amare.
    I am a fan of the Blazers draft selections. Feels good to finally be able to say that
  1. chopsui101
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    Posted 10/25/2010 11:15 AM

    1. Kevin Garnett (old, slow, can't play back to the basket anymore)
    2. Ray allen (for a sweet shooter he doesn't hit to many shots past 2 years.  If Boston needs somone to come play shotty defense and throw up 7-10 bricks per game I'll do it for 1/2 price)
    3. Baron Davis (isn't leading Clippers any where soon)
    4. Lamar Odom (6'9' shots, drives, rebounds......just not enough of any of the 3)
    5. Vince Carter (makes horrible decisions about shooting 3 pointers lucky D Howard down there to corral the rebounds)
    6. Yao (when your tall as him you should block rebound and generally dominate a lot more)
    7. Mo Williams (We will see if he is a true All Star this year or not)
    8. Carlos Boozer (All the talk is how great he is when he is healthy.......yep which is never)
    9. Kevin Martin (see above)
    10. Pau Gasol (look at Memphis is easy be good when you have Kobe on your team)
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 10/25/2010 3:56 PM

    memphis did pretty decent with gasol.
    but id say its easier to win with phil as your coach,haha.
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