Brandon Roy: 'I Want The Ball A Lot More.'
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 10/14/2010 10:28 AM

    Do you agree with Roy's comments?
    Yes - He's our best player, he should have the ball more (48)
     77%
    No - He gets the ball enough (14)
     23%
    Via Quick-
    Brandon Roy on Wednesday said he wants the ball more this season because it will give the Trail Blazers their best chance to win.

    "I want the ball a lot more," Roy said.

    Roy, who has led the team in scoring the past three seasons, struggled at times last season as the team incorporated offensive weapons Andre Miller and Greg Oden.

    Roy said he has spoken with coach Nate McMillan about returning the offense to resemble the 2008-09 season, when he handled the ball on command, which included for much of the fourth quarter. Roy averaged a career-high 22.6 points that season and the Blazers won 54 games.

    "I want to be maximized every game," Roy said. "That's a position that I'm strong with, with the basketball, and I'm extremely confident with it."
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    Do you like the attitude, yes or no? I love that he's calling for the ball more personally, because he is the best and this is what would be expected out of Wade, Williams, Paul, Kobe, etc. But, I hope the offense doesn't become stagnant in getting him the ball more. I like iso plays at crunch times or in times of need, but when ran continuously, the defense just keys in on Roy too quickly and we end up forcing a contested jumper out of it. What if we ran a lot of curls for him where he can catch and shoot mid-range shots?
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  1. blazersforlife234
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    Posted 10/14/2010 10:59 AM

    I like it... honesty is a good thing and as long as all the players on the team are on the same page this is DEFINITELY a good thing. But if miller and lamarcus aren't ok with something like this, that is when problems occur and players need to be moved. But from the point of view of Roy, this really is best for the team
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 10/14/2010 11:57 AM

    My problem is in the last two seasons now he has just been blabbing his mouth and not actually doing anything about it. He's had ONE decent quarter this whole pre season and he is saying this already? It is good that he wants the ball more but he has to start doing something with it from the START of the game until the end, not just being lazy shooting jumpers every time. Sometimes I feel like we have the toughest star to motivate! I mean it takes him until the 3rd quarter to get going way too much. I also hope that they plan to mix it up with Miller running plays to get the ball to others, otherwise our offense becomes so predictable that even Phoenix can stop it.

    If he is going to say stuff like this he better start producing more in every quarter he plays in, on offense and defense.
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  1. Fallen_Deity
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    Posted 10/14/2010 1:05 PM

    It shows he still is hungry.  We have proven we have some players that can score, this will let Roy do his thing and when they go to double him they will get wrecked.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 10/14/2010 1:28 PM

    TomL: It's pre-season. Look at all the past pre-seasons he never does great in it. But come time the season starts it's game time. Practice? You want to talk about PRACTICE?! (A.I. reference). I do agree with you that he's a little too passive at the start of games trying to get people involved when he should be aggressive for all 40 minutes he plays.

    As far as what he's demanding, I love it. You wouldn't hear this from him two seasons ago or even last year. When your star demands something it's best you listen. However, hopefully it's just not going to be iso plays.
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  1. Jestatom
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    Posted 10/14/2010 3:05 PM

    As long as he can make his shots, I am ok with this. Ever since his injury though, we really havn't seen the Brandon Roy from before the Injury. He has been off target with a lot of his shots since then. But if he feels he can score everytime he touches the ball (within reason of course) than sure. Why not give him the ball. He is an all star and I would love to see him play at his full potential.
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  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 10/14/2010 3:08 PM

    I briefly caught a rant from a grumpy Blazer fan, on one of the 95.5 radio shows. The fella went off about how selfish a statement that this was, and how Brandon didn't play any defense.
    Then the radio host (dunno which guy it was, Kenny?) was all like, "Oh, huh, you make some really good points sir. I can certainly agree with you."

    Dude, you just agreed with a planted Laker fan that just ripped on our best player.
    Maybe the radio host is a Laker fan as well?

    I say, give the Natural the rock, this is his house too.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 10/14/2010 3:16 PM

    I can't vote either way because...
      In the half court offense, Roy does need the ball in his hands. BUT, 4 guys standing around watching Roy, can't be the only offense, as we have seen in the past.
    Again, Roy will always play at his own pace.
    That being said, it has to balance with the teams ability to run the fast break off turnovers forced by the defense. 
    Hopefully Roy and Nate both learned from the process of adding Dre last season, and it will be a smoother transition with adding Matthews, while also trying to get Nic more involved on the offense this season.
     
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  1. Avgjoe28
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    Posted 10/14/2010 3:33 PM

    Give roy the ball I say yes. i see people talking about preseason. I have been to the games so far and at each of them Miller has been a turn over machine. Now that is not to asay he will do that in regular season. Just saying cant judge stars by preseason. What i do know is this though. I heard a guy on the radio tell Kenny that this team doesnt need brandon. and that the team has proved they can win with out him. Now i dont know what season you guys watched last year but it had to be diffrent from the one i watched. I am not saying they didnt win games with out him they did, When it was a blow out. But when it came down to close games there was no one to step up. Roy  is a closer from what i have seen no one else on this team is as good. in 08-09 winning close games was our specialty last year not so much. Just think about the kobe's and lebron's. who gets the ball when the game is on the line. Not Mo williamms or ron artest. We need brandon there is a reason he is ranked 3ed at his postion and 11th over all. If we were to lose him all of you that think trade him would turn tail and blame the organization when we dont make play offs. because we wont with out him or at least that calaiber of a player. Just something to think about.
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 10/14/2010 3:56 PM

    Bertram, I think it would have been better if Roy would have said something about taking responsibility for the teams chemistry, or wanting to lead by example, ie put the ball in my hands and I will lead by example and hopefully everyone will follow. I would totally be good with that. What he says sounds like he just wants to be out there by himself and especially leaving Andre out again! All I'm saying is if he's going to say something like this he better dominate from the beginning of games until the end, because yes he's slow at starting the pre season every year, but he is also slow at starting the games every year. You can't say this crap if you are going to play like that. He gets plenty of touches, he just doesn't do anything with them until the second half. And if it weren't for his notorious past schisms with his own teammates (Lamarcus, Andre that we know about) and some of the things he has said (like last year when Travis was traded he said it was his best friend and now he doesn't have anyone to talk to on the road... YOU HAVE YOUR WHOLE TEAM DAMMIT!!) I wouldn't be so worried about it. He seems to keep leaving his teammates hung out to dry.  Yes I want him to have the ball more, if he produces more that 3 or 4 assists a game and his scoring goes up at least a little from 21-22ppg. If he played the same in the first half as the second, he could be up around 28-30ppg!

    It's almost like Brandon has been pressing B to answer arrogantly. ha ha Is this Deon Cole or Brandon Roy?
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  1. kenny c.
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    Posted 10/14/2010 4:17 PM

    Give my man the ball whenever he want's it. He's the best player and he deserves the ball because he has proven himself time and time again.
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  1. EthanMoney
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    Posted 10/14/2010 4:30 PM

    What if we just ran B-Roy at the point? let him facilitate?
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  1. RedRudy5
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    Posted 10/14/2010 4:30 PM

    Too much fuss about Brandon's statement is being made. Go Blazers!!
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  1. Rip City fan
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    Posted 10/14/2010 4:31 PM

    Definitely Brandon Roy should get the ball more he's the player that wins games, but I thought he already was getting the ball the majority of the time. After Roy got injured though his game hasn't looked the same, there's been looks of it but for whatever reason its not the same. Maybe Brandon just needs to get back into the groove he had before all that and before Miller was incorporated in. I think there's a need for everyone to get the ball at some point, but Roy should definitely get it more, he is the "quarterback" of this team. Its kind of odd he's even vocally saying this it should just be automatic that he gets the ball more. 
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  1. Lenwen76
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    Posted 10/14/2010 6:05 PM

    Roy is our franchise player .. Leader of the team .. thee GO TO ALLSTAR on our squad ..

    If he wants the ball more .. as the best player on the team .. GIVE HIM THE BALL MORE !!

    The ball more in his hands an we might .. just might see him pass the likes of Kobe Bryant as being the 2nd best SG in the league .. and become a true Superstar in every sense of the words ..

    We do not give max contracts .. to people who do not deserve to have the ball in hands .. on command if you ask me ..

    Brandon Roy .. has been said by Kobe to have absolutely no weakness's in his game and he feels only himself (Kobe) and Roy share this ... in the whole league ..

    That alone speaks volumes when one of the best in the league says your game has no weakness ..

    Give him more touches .. and watch him average 25+ .. or higher ..

    Give the natural the ball .. that is all ..

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  1. HoorawRPwnage
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    Posted 10/14/2010 6:33 PM

    I agree Brandon needs the ball more. Hes the best player and hes proved it multiple times. Hes Mr. 4th quarter and usely is the only one hot when the rest of the team is cold
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    Posted 10/14/2010 6:37 PM

    Seriously, who gives a rats a** what Kobe said about Roy. Roy needs to put his money where his mouth is and quit talking about it and just do it. I don't ever see the players lock him out of sets so what is he really saying? If anything, Kobe's comment has gone to his head and now he just thinks about it instead of doing it. Either Kobe is a genius (which I doubt) and is messing with Roy's mind in an psychologically positive way (killing him with flattery), or he's getting lucky.

    Besides, what Kobe says is massively arrogant anyway. No weaknesses? How about Kobe's stupid tendency to shoot his team out of a game sometimes because he is a ball hog? Even when he is ice cold. Yes he has been better about that the last couple of years and yet he still does it on occasion. But the day you admit you have no weaknesses is the day you think you are above every one else and no longer need to work on anything. I think as long as you play, no matter how many years, you can always get better at strengthening your weaknesses. Screw Kobe.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 10/14/2010 6:38 PM

    I say give Roy the ball as much and as often as he'd like to have it. However, that would mean extended time at the point. Which also means that he has to polish those defensive skills, movement of the feet,fighting pick and rolls, etc.. Quiet as kept, everyone rants about Lebron being a triple double threat, Roy is one too. Somedays he's going to have to be our primary weapon,but not all.
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  1. Nighthawk
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    Posted 10/14/2010 7:12 PM

    He deserves the ball when he want's it. Did we all forget that he is a Top 3 guard in this league??? Portland has a tendency and history of NOT utilizing their best players and spreading the offense too thin. If every other guy on the roster were bankable and consistent with their offense I could understand not going through Roy first on offense, but they aren't reliable, if they were they would be superstars themselves. So, give him the ball when he wants it, those other 4 guys can fight for rebounds and look for passes from Roy. If Miller doesn't like it then he can go somewhere else. Roy is this decades Drexler, we need to focus on him, he still has growth in this game to fill out, give him the keys already.
  1. freddead
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    Posted 10/14/2010 7:27 PM

    i would be more worried if he didnt want the ball more
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 10/14/2010 7:59 PM

    Thats real talk.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 10/14/2010 8:54 PM

    I have a different take...

    I heard Brandon say something different than what most apparently heard.  Everyone is assuming that his comments were made with Dre playing the point.  No secret the team and Cho are actively shopping and may even be close.  Whomever it is that Cho brings in, you can bet will have a perimeter game and be able (and willing) to defer to Roy.  Roy and teammates are just as (if not more) aware of what is in the air than are we, the fans, and I believe he may have tipped the hand a bit.  Sounds like the search involves finding a Steve Blake replacement, more so than a Dre replacement...thus BRoy's reference to the offense of two years ago and getting back to that.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 10/14/2010 9:07 PM

    Posted By freddead on 10/14/2010 7:27 PM
    i would be more worried if he didnt want the ball more
    Good point.  However, I have many concerns with that offense.  Where does the continuing development of Batum fit in?  Brandon needs someone, anyone, to step in and save him from himself.  He seems bent on shortening, if not ending, his career by shouldering far too much of the offensive burden.  One more surgery left in that knee...then it's bone on bone folks.  When GO is healthy, Nate will have to find a way once again to integrate him into the offense and get him touches...just as he had to at the start of last season.  New to this equation...Wesley Matthews.  What happened to ball movement and player movement?  If your star and leader is publicly uninterested...?  One last, but very LARGE concern.  Wasn't it that offense that began the first round and out funk?  Nate, it's fall now in Rip City.  That's not the sun you are feeling on the back of your neck.  That would be the warm breath of the next head coach.

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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 10/14/2010 9:17 PM

    I personally, am not assuming anything, I didn't hear it.  I know we can trust Brandon where ever he is on the floor. I'm glad they are using the pre season to get it out there, instead of wasting the first part of the season again.

    Here is another different take..... 
     How much do people complain that the Blazers need more offensive plays ??
    How easy is it to scout/defend the Roy and 4 play  by now ?? 
    How are Wesley and Nico supposed to improve offensively ( we know they can ) if most of the plays revolve around Roy ??
    The Dre situation should be a reminder. There is only one ball.
    They will work it out, they are grown men.
      
    It has to be a balance, along with running off turnovers. Or they wont get better.

    BDawg, the thought that the Blazer brain trust is still searching for the "pgotf " when there is a hole in the middle, makes me throw up in my mouth. 
    If it's true, they  must be finally playing possum with Oden :) ......
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 10/14/2010 9:20 PM

    Agree redrudy, too much is being made of it.  But it's pre season !
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 10/14/2010 9:31 PM

    Posted By Kim~ on 10/14/2010 9:17 PM
    I personally, am not assuming anything, I didn't hear it.  I know we can trust Brandon where ever he is on the floor. I'm glad they are using the pre season to get it out there, instead of wasting the first part of the season again.

    Here is another different take..... 
     How much do people complain that the Blazers need more offensive plays ??
    How easy is it to scout/defend the Roy and 4 play  by now ?? 
    How are Wesley and Nico supposed to improve offensively ( we know they can ) if most of the plays revolve around Roy ??
    The Dre situation should be a reminder. There is only one ball.
    They will work it out, they are grown men.
      
    It has to be a balance, along with running off turnovers. Or they wont get better.

    BDawg, the thought that the Blazer brain trust is still searching for the "pgotf " when there is a hole in the middle, makes me throw up in my mouth. 
    If it's true, they  must be finally playing possum with Oden :) ......
    Very well said my friend.  It is that lack of option, that lack of versatility that will AGAIN spell certain death for this team in the post season.  Far too easy to prepare when you're playing a one man team, especially in a series.  The "Jordan Rules" will be re-named. 

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  1. OSU2013
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    Posted 10/14/2010 9:54 PM

    Yes give roy the ball and let the other four players go sit down..Get off your high horse "Mr. Give Me  The Ball More.""This is a team game not a one man show..Teams win Championships not one player.. Ask L. James and hes alot better than you Mr. Ball Hog..
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 10/14/2010 10:18 PM

    TomL: Like I said I agree with you that with the increase touches Roy needs to do something with them. However, he doesn't get nearly as many shot opportunities as Kobe Bryant, Carmello Anthony, LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, Kevin Durant...and even Tyreke Evans and Derrick Rose. Each average 17-22 shots a game..Roy on the other hand averages 16 shots a game. Let's take Carmello. He gets around 20 shots a game with a better roster having support from Nene, Billups and Smith. He average about 25-26 points a game last season? Kobe 22 shots a game average...end result high twenty average, this goes on minus Evans and Rose. What I'm trying to say is when your star wants the rock give him the rock, your team will win. He might even get the MVP (Kobe and LeBron x2) or a scoring title (Durant and Wade).

    I'd like to dissect your comment on Kobe shooting his team out of games...he may do that from time to time but you can't be a integral part of 5 championship teams (2 of which he was the center piece) and not be effective with "shooting your team in or out" of games. I'll let Kobe shoot the rock all day if he wanted to, he's got the most dominating wing offenses in the game since Michael Jordan...of course he doesn't even come close to Jordan.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 10/14/2010 10:20 PM

    Oh and another thing that doesn't involved TomL's comments.

    I just find it funny how people are just begging Roy to come out and be a leader and be more assertive with the things he wants from the team, but the moment he comes out and says he wants the ball more people say he's being selfish.
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    Posted 10/15/2010 1:03 AM

    Posted By Bertram on 10/14/2010 10:18 PM
    TomL: Like I said I agree with you that with the increase touches Roy needs to do something with them. However, he doesn't get nearly as many shot opportunities as Kobe Bryant, Carmello Anthony, LeBron James, Dwayne Wade, Kevin Durant...and even Tyreke Evans and Derrick Rose. Each average 17-22 shots a game..Roy on the other hand averages 16 shots a game. Let's take Carmello. He gets around 20 shots a game with a better roster having support from Nene, Billups and Smith. He average about 25-26 points a game last season? Kobe 22 shots a game average...end result high twenty average, this goes on minus Evans and Rose. What I'm trying to say is when your star wants the rock give him the rock, your team will win. He might even get the MVP (Kobe and LeBron x2) or a scoring title (Durant and Wade).

    I'd like to dissect your comment on Kobe shooting his team out of games...he may do that from time to time but you can't be a integral part of 5 championship teams (2 of which he was the center piece) and not be effective with "shooting your team in or out" of games. I'll let Kobe shoot the rock all day if he wanted to, he's got the most dominating wing offenses in the game since Michael Jordan...of course he doesn't even come close to Jordan.

    Kobe and those guys get more shots because their offense and game style has more possessions for the whole team. We have the slowest offense and the slowest paced team in the league so that means not as many possessions for everyone on our team. i think Brandon gets enough, he just doesn't start doing anything with it until the 3rd quarter.

    And I'm not saying Kobe shouldn't do that, but imo it is definitely a weakness to force up shot after shot when they aren't going in to the point that your team starts losing. Basically I was just using it as an example of Kobe having a weakness, instead of his arrogance claiming he has none.
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  1. barnettfan
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    Posted 10/15/2010 5:16 AM

    Roy is abit too passive in his play at times. If he takes charge right from the begining of the game it should spark everyone else.He is a smart enough player to know when to pass off and when he is not hitting on all eight cylinders. I say he is a bit ticked off at being rated number eleven. Give him the ball and let him eat the other ten.
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  1. Lenwen76
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    Posted 10/15/2010 8:41 AM

    3rd best guard in the LEAGUE ..

    Our teams only Allstar ..

    Our teams Leader ..

    Our teams Best player ..

    Give him what he wants ..

    If there is anything about Roy's game .. its not a selfish game at any rate .. And everyone absolutely know's this with out question.
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  1. Crim
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    Posted 10/15/2010 11:46 AM

    if any other superstar in the league said this I would probably not like it, but being that it's Roy, a superstar only on a local level, he needs to say this and do this to be recognized by the idiots in the league office, and then "Donald" Stern can let the refs know it's okay to give Roy some calls this season.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 10/15/2010 11:48 AM

    Roy is the Blazers only all star ... at this point. 
    It's not about not trusting him, him being selfish (I for one don't buy that ), or too passive.
    Just saying, how will the others get to that level if the entire offense runs around Roy ?
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  1. Zack Erdmann
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    Posted 10/15/2010 12:41 PM

    Hey, if Brandon thinks he can handle our team and make the right decisions... Well then by all means let the man play ball. He should be maximized hes our star and gives us what we need, faith in our team. Just keep Lamarcus in twith him, they work wonders together!
  1. Kim~
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    Posted 10/15/2010 12:55 PM

    Not saying they are, but, if Brandon and LA think they can get past the first round of the playoffs with a 2 man offense,  against a  5 man offense, we are in big trouble .....
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 10/15/2010 2:26 PM

    I gotta disagree with #7 on this one. I'd much rather run a motion offense like they do in Utah and Chicago. When everyone moves without the ball, it makes it harder for the defense to read what's going on., keeps them off balance. Do I want the ball in his hands with the game on the line? You better believe it. BUT, no more Roy isolations for the entire game. Not only is it boring basketball but it doesn't work. Look, if it can't work with LeBron James doing it, what leads us to believe it'll work for us?
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    Posted 10/15/2010 6:34 PM

    Posted By ClydeFrog on 10/15/2010 2:26 PM
    I gotta disagree with #7 on this one. I'd much rather run a motion offense like they do in Utah and Chicago. When everyone moves without the ball, it makes it harder for the defense to read what's going on., keeps them off balance. Do I want the ball in his hands with the game on the line? You better believe it. BUT, no more Roy isolations for the entire game. Not only is it boring basketball but it doesn't work. Look, if it can't work with LeBron James doing it, what leads us to believe it'll work for us?

    I totally agree with everything you said.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 10/15/2010 7:07 PM

    Posted By ClydeFrog on 10/15/2010 2:26 PM
    I gotta disagree with #7 on this one. I'd much rather run a motion offense like they do in Utah and Chicago. When everyone moves without the ball, it makes it harder for the defense to read what's going on., keeps them off balance. Do I want the ball in his hands with the game on the line? You better believe it. BUT, no more Roy isolations for the entire game. Not only is it boring basketball but it doesn't work. Look, if it can't work with LeBron James doing it, what leads us to believe it'll work for us?

    I fail to understand the meaning of this? Boring basketball? 
    So is it you'd rather be entertained, then see your team win? I mean essentially, thats what your saying, if Brandon did capitalize off of iso, or heck even drew in the 2nd defender, like a real iso, he could shoot it out for the pass to the wide open man sitting on 3. Now, this doesnt mean EVERY play will be run this way, but throwing a quick isolation in there, hell yeah thats stratagy, you win a game by running the same offense all game, thats LUCK. LeBron's cavs, were UNSTOPPABLE, and the guy was able to average almost a triple dip, so its not just scoring that comes up with the offense.
    Now like tom said, if the team is run very slowly, this will not work as effectivly, for the team, and for roy, unless he grew 2 inches and gained 30 pounds of solid muscle. If the offense were to speed up, which i dont see why they dont, the team might come away with few more W's. More and more teams with decent winning percentages, are playing at up tempo speeds, and controlling that tempo from tip off to the last shot.
    For something like this to work though more players than just roy need to work on his isolations, having aldridge set a screen while roy goes around it outside post to setup a sweet dish to bayless on the 3. Its gotta be more than just roy for it to work, like when LeBronTron did it, the whole team was involed, thats why it DID work.
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    Posted 10/15/2010 10:33 PM

    yipee the guy averaged almost a trip dub, and  had the best record BUT still no rings! It doesn't matter if you go 82-0 in the regular season if you don't get a title.

    And why do you always misconstrue every thing people say? He never said anything like he'd rather see them lose than play a boring offense, he said "Not only is it boring, it does NOT work!" So he was essentially saying being boring was a side note to it not working! That it doesn't work was his main point. He was also saying if the best player in the league couldn't win it all with this lame iso offense, why would we with Brandon? He also was not saying to never run it.

    ahh what's the point...
    I am a fan of comcast and the blazers making deals that keep screwing us over!! woot!
  1. TayC
    TayC
    Posts: 1804

    Posted 10/16/2010 2:37 PM

    Well, i dont see what Boring has to do with what he's talking about, and i dont believe i was talking to you
    Answering for people?
    I am a fan of The Blazers ♂, the £-Train, and of course, The ¤ King. ™
  1. I''m OUT!
    I''m OUT!
    Posts: 1059

    Posted 10/16/2010 3:06 PM

    Posted By TayC on 10/16/2010 2:37 PM
    Well, i dont see what Boring has to do with what he's talking about
    Because you are stupid. I just tried to explain it but you are too dumb to understand anything.
    I am a fan of comcast and the blazers making deals that keep screwing us over!! woot!
  1. TJ31
    TJ31
    Posts: 190

    Posted 10/16/2010 9:06 PM

    Posted By OSU2013 on 10/14/2010 9:54 PM
    Yes give roy the ball and let the other four players go sit down..Get off your high horse "Mr. Give Me  The Ball More.""This is a team game not a one man show..Teams win Championships not one player.. Ask L. James and hes alot better than you Mr. Ball Hog..

    Haha what would Lebron know about winning championships?  He never did thats why he left.  And you need a superstar to win in this league... look at CLE and LAL that last few years... top seeds in their respective conferences while they had (arguably) the best two players in the league.. Lebron and Kobe.  The Celtics have KG and Pierce, the Mavericks have Dirk and Kidd, the Magic have Howard, OKC has Durant... Portland has Brandon Roy and we need to utilize him as much as we can.
    I am a fan of
  1. commontongue
    commontongue
    Posts: 1864

    Posted 10/16/2010 9:26 PM

    Teams win championships, not individuals. Super side-kicks are necessary. I look at the Detroits and the Spurs championship seasons. Thpse guys fed off of eachother. Watching them you never got the impression that they had not one primadonna not willing to sacrifice for the good of the team. Everybody and their mom knows that its Brandons team. Now the team needs to know that its Brandons team.
    I am a fan of our new roster playing with and for eachother.
  1. Bertram
    Bertram
    Posts: 803

    Posted 10/17/2010 11:49 AM

    Oh they know it's Brandon's team. What they don't know is that Brandon needs this "super side-kick."

    All good championship teams isolated their best player at least half of their shot attempts. Tim Duncan in his prime was isolated, Shaq in his prime, D-Wade in his championship year, Kobe and so on. The problem is with our team is we at this point don't have a consistent secondary scorer and a good post presence. Aldridge could fill this void, but the problem is he doesn't pass out of the double-team very well so really isn't that great of a post-presence.
    I am a fan of B-Roy and LaMonster!
  1. TayC
    TayC
    Posts: 1804

    Posted 10/18/2010 7:14 PM

    Posted By TJ31 on 10/16/2010 9:06 PM
    Posted By OSU2013 on 10/14/2010 9:54 PM
    Yes give roy the ball and let the other four players go sit down..Get off your high horse "Mr. Give Me  The Ball More.""This is a team game not a one man show..Teams win Championships not one player.. Ask L. James and hes alot better than you Mr. Ball Hog..

     you need a superstar to win in this league... look at CLE and LAL that last few years... top seeds in their respective conferences while they had (arguably) the best two players in the league.. Lebron and Kobe.  The Celtics have KG and Pierce, the Mavericks have Dirk and Kidd, the Magic have Howard, OKC has Durant... Portland has Brandon Roy and we need to utilize him as much as we can.

    Yes. Agreed, motion seconded.
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