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  1. Fallen_Deity
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    Posted 10/01/2010 3:10 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vaZIAXJJDKQ
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    Posted 10/01/2010 12:12 PM

    I don't remember laughing! I was extremely angry! I was also mad at Nate for not yelling at the refs for making such a blatantly terrible call which also happened to take Camby out of the game. That game seriously reminded me of everything Donaghy was talking about.

    Here's another ridiculous call, though it's not a Blazer game, but these kind of calls absolutely should not happen in the playoffs!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-igP_XG-kCo
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    Posted 10/01/2010 12:35 PM

    I can't find a clip of it but there are a few from the last game vs Dallas that had me ready to fight.  Namely JJ Barea driving the lane and just missing the ground completely and falling and portland getting a foul call... pro basketball players are too good to make a mistake like tripping.
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    Posted 10/01/2010 1:02 PM

    Crazy people see spiders crawling on their arms when there aren't any. This is about as crazy as mystery spiders on your arms.
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    Posted 10/01/2010 2:46 PM

    Absurd really is the right word for this.
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    Posted 10/01/2010 5:58 PM

    hahhaha.
    wow i did not see that.
    that was ridiculous both of them
    the blazers one is in great quality, im still trippen on that.
    But the announcers are so funny
    "Foul on Roy, no its gotta be camby, wait a second, its gotta be on,somebody" 
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    Posted 10/01/2010 6:55 PM

    This shows the "Batum foul"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maZHNXuU3JU


    starts at 4:40
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    Posted 10/01/2010 7:59 PM

    Posted By Herr on 10/01/2010 6:55 PM
    This shows the "Batum foul"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maZHNXuU3JU


    starts at 4:40
    That also has the Barea tripping in it around 2:00 mark that was just a terribly officiated game
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  1. ripcity4life025
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    Posted 10/01/2010 8:30 PM

    that call was almost as bad as Tim Duncan getting thrown out for laughing
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    Posted 10/01/2010 9:37 PM

    Posted By ripcity4life025 on 10/01/2010 8:30 PM
    that call was almost as bad as Tim Duncan getting thrown out for laughing

    Funny you should say that. It is the same exact ref! Joey Crawford.
    I really don't know why he is still in the league after that atrocious display of self control of his personal feelings towards a player that obviously altered an NBA game.

    But hey, if Stern gets his way again, players can now get called for T's just for raising their arms in disbelief at a call. That's just another judgment call, aka another sneaky way to alter the game in whatever team's way that they see fit.
    I am sick of Stern always complaining about the players and coaches complaining about the refs too much. Well the fans do too! Movies and TV shows are ripping on them too. Maybe there is something wrong with the officiating. Instead of making even more ridiculous rules for the gestapo to enforce, why not have a little bit more transparency with how the refs are handled and disciplined. How about having a little humility instead of all this arrogant defiance about the integrity of the refs. Any player or coach that gets fined they tell everyone how much and why. I want that with the refs too. Yes the players and coaches should respect the refs, but the damn refs should call a fair game!!!!! Basically they should let them play! Not just the stars. And quit calling touch fouls and non existent fouls on Greg Oden!!

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    Posted 10/02/2010 3:10 PM

    Yea thats some solid sense their tom.
    Idk if Stern has anything to do with this, but Fans werre complaining, ones who sat behind the team benches, they had been complaining because they couldnt see the game well due to all of the players on the bench standing, and cheering, and all that. If your LeBron, Dancing, ha.

    I get that, but really, like the player cant control thier excitment over their team winning, or at least they shouldnt have to. If they clinch a playoff berth in 13 years, you want a team just to sit there. Thats so Wack.
    Seriously you cant tell someone they cant be happy for themselves or the team.


    ***just like you cant tell someone they HAVE TO STAY IN CLEVELAND****


    And then there was something about how, their socks are too high, hahahha, too high!
    Apparently, the NBA players are looking like street thugs.
    Where if you were the Commisioner, and you DID have a brain, you'd (f-wording) know that its the thugs on the street trying to look like them.

    Like marcus camby gonna try to look like some idiot outta south central.
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    Posted 10/03/2010 9:31 PM

    crawford is horrible. everybody knows it. what the heck?!?! if any of us (unless your a bus driver in portland) did our jobs that poorly, we would have been fired a long time ago.
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    Posted 10/12/2010 11:58 PM

    All-Star treatment at it's finest
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    Posted 10/13/2010 1:28 AM

    I remember when that happened. I can't believe how many times the refs make stupid calls like that. It's... almost like... they are... incompetent... or something.
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    Posted 10/13/2010 3:28 AM

    For all the people that don't believe in NBA ref conspiracies think for a second.  Although it may or may not be a huge conspiracy there has to be some truth.  NBA refs get paid by NBA revenue, revenue comes from ticket sales, concessions, jerseys, team gear, etc...  It is in the refs best interest to have the "big market" teams win because they sell the most stuff insuring that they have fat checks to cash... That is a fact not theory so regardless of conspiracies or not it insures them job security and most people, if they could influence their ability to keep their job this easily, would probably do the same thing unfortunately.
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    Posted 10/13/2010 10:58 AM

    It's not hard to believe at all if you think about how mankind has acted throughout all of history! And yet people today never think anything could be corrupted as in the past because we are so enlightened.
    But like these OBVIOUS non fouls, why isn't there at least ONE of the refs that didn't make the call step in and say, "whoa wait, Wade actually just spun around and tripped all by himself." Is it because they are all completely incompetent? Or they don't want to admit they were wrong?  Or is it because something else is going on? Any way it is unacceptable and something needs to be done. This ridiculous non foul call happens all the time and I don't ever remember any of the refs who didn't make the call step up and correct the situation.
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  1. Fallen_Deity
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    Posted 10/13/2010 11:55 AM

    I like to try to keep personal beliefs on whether or not i think there is a conspiracy and let facts talk but trust me Tom, i do hear you
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    Posted 10/13/2010 2:14 PM

    everyone knows about the nba's treatment of star players and large market teams. the only one who doesn't think everyone knows that s David Stern. the league will never have a chance at regaining it's integrity and credibility until Stern leaves. i seem to remember a facebook page titled 'portland hates joey crawford.' he's the worst, but there are others nearly as bad.

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    Posted 10/13/2010 3:01 PM

    This is the best FB page.
    http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/fire-David-Stern-and-all-officials/116454441710960

    And it may not be a huge conspiracy but you can tell the integrity is not there, especially when it comes to making more money showcasing the star players and their big markets. That is undeniable.
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    Posted 10/13/2010 3:01 PM

    The one call I can still vividly remember was against the Nuggets at the end of the 04 season.We were in a dogfight for that 8th spot in the West, trying to keep our playoff streak alive. It was either in the 4th or overtime, but the game was tied and Damon Stoudamire got his man in the air. He was behind the 3 point line, jumped, shot, and a foul was called. There was nearly no time left, but he wasn't granted free throws. It cost us the game, the tie breaker, and ultimately our 20+ consecutive playoff berth.
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    Posted 10/14/2010 1:37 PM

    I remember lots of times, even that stupid series in 2000? against the lakers when we came back and took it to game 7. I remember being up like 13 or 15 points going into the fourth quarter, and then 10 billion fouls called on us and none on them. I know we got cold but it was still pretty obvious they wanted the lakers to win that one. I remember 2 obvious fouls they never called for us that probably would have helped us keep our lead and every possible touch foul they could call on us they did.
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    Posted 10/14/2010 1:43 PM

    What I laughed and grimaced at during that series was the open missed dunk by Camby..that was atrocious. That I was just baffled...EFF YOU JOEY CRAWFORD!
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    Posted 10/16/2010 2:32 PM

    Posted By TomL on 10/13/2010 10:58 AM
    It's not hard to believe at all if you think about how mankind has acted throughout all of history! And yet people today never think anything could be corrupted as in the past because we are so enlightened.
    But like these OBVIOUS non fouls, why isn't there at least ONE of the refs that didn't make the call step in and say, "whoa wait, Wade actually just spun around and tripped all by himself." Is it because they are all completely incompetent? Or they don't want to admit they were wrong?  Or is it because something else is going on? Any way it is unacceptable and something needs to be done. This ridiculous non foul call happens all the time and I don't ever remember any of the refs who didn't make the call step up and correct the situation.

    hahahha. dont quit your day job. Ref's have hard job, umpires as well, its not as easy as someone who has NEVER done it before thinks it is. There's no conspiracy, when a bad call happens like that, and the refs call it, how do you expect them to go back out there and say "oh sorry folks, i actually made the wrong call, because im not very good at my job." they cant, i'll give you that it is an issue of pride. And perhaps the reason other refs dont come up and call Crawford out, is because of his reputation as a distinguished referee and they respect that. Referee or Umpire, its still a professional business, and you respect your boss.
    Conspiracy though, i think i'll wait for the book to come out....hahaha.
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    Posted 10/16/2010 3:04 PM

    Posted By TayC on 10/16/2010 2:32 PM
    Posted By TomL on 10/13/2010 10:58 AM
    It's not hard to believe at all if you think about how mankind has acted throughout all of history! And yet people today never think anything could be corrupted as in the past because we are so enlightened.
    But like these OBVIOUS non fouls, why isn't there at least ONE of the refs that didn't make the call step in and say, "whoa wait, Wade actually just spun around and tripped all by himself." Is it because they are all completely incompetent? Or they don't want to admit they were wrong?  Or is it because something else is going on? Any way it is unacceptable and something needs to be done. This ridiculous non foul call happens all the time and I don't ever remember any of the refs who didn't make the call step up and correct the situation.

    hahahha. dont quit your day job. Ref's have hard job, umpires as well, its not as easy as someone who has NEVER done it before thinks it is. There's no conspiracy, when a bad call happens like that, and the refs call it, how do you expect them to go back out there and say "oh sorry folks, i actually made the wrong call, because im not very good at my job." they cant, i'll give you that it is an issue of pride. And perhaps the reason other refs dont come up and call Crawford out, is because of his reputation as a distinguished referee and they respect that. Referee or Umpire, its still a professional business, and you respect your boss.
    Conspiracy though, i think i'll wait for the book to come out....hahaha.
    Shut up and just quit talking to me. Seriously. You are the dumbest guy on here.
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    Posted 10/16/2010 3:18 PM

    you know your cute when your angry.Now you. Talking with. Too many unnecessary periods.
    Like you really think that the refs are out to keep the Boston Celtics and Los Angeles Lakers at the top of the basketball world. 
    There is just no way in the world, that perhaps these two teams emergered in the early years of this sport as the dominant forces to be reckoned with. The Lakers get WACK calls against them all the time, and i bet on there forum they have a ref conspiracy thread too. really dude, if im the dumbest guy on here, what does that make you? you know?
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    Posted 10/16/2010 4:57 PM

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    Posted 10/16/2010 5:52 PM

    Lets keep this about videos for absurd calls and not have it turn into an argument thread Tom I know your a passionate dude and I can see why you react but lets just focus on absurdity of the calls.
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    Posted 10/16/2010 6:34 PM

    Posted By Fallen_Deity on 10/16/2010 5:52 PM
    Lets keep this about videos for absurd calls and not have it turn into an argument thread Tom I know your a passionate dude and I can see why you react but lets just focus on absurdity of the calls.
    Uh that is why I told him to quit talking to me.
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    Posted 10/16/2010 6:38 PM

    I will try to ignore him.
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    Posted 10/16/2010 7:18 PM

    I know Tom lol I have seen your conversations and how often you tell him to stop talking to you lol dont worry im on your side
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    Posted 10/18/2010 7:57 PM

    OH. I was unaware there were sides, you must be on the " Im so sad my team doesn't win, so there must be a NBA conspiracy side"
    And Tom, the word TRY, is having the intention to fail, you of all thesauruses could of found a better word.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fxw3yxJt2O0&feature=related
    Watch those video's, there are a bunch of other lunatics who's teams dont win who think they same thing.
    Maybe theyre all blazers fans? Hmm? that would be a real conspiracy. 
    Is Having the best teams in the NBA win, a conspiracy, or is it competition.
    Oh, look, how appropriate...
     Every year, every nutbag with a computer and a complete lack of imagination writes some version of the following: David Stern wants the Lakers and (fill in the blank team here) in the Finals. You know the refs are gonna make that happen. The NBA is rigged. It's no better than pro wrestling.

    I can't tell you how many people have been on Facebook with some variation of this. Isn't David Stern gonna be mad if Orlando and Denver are in the Finals? David Stern wants Kobe and LeBron in the Finals. David Stern must really be ticked off.

    Every year, these podunks say, Stern, an unnamed cabal of referees, executives from ESPN, ABC and Turner, Phil Knight, Craig Sager's tailor -- and, occasionally and just for laughs, Carrot Top -- get together and make sure that the only teams in the Finals are from major-market cities. The theory goes that the NBA, desperate to regain the ratings it had in the Jordan Era, manipulates the Playoffs to ensure its biggest stars play in its biggest series. Because only the NBA is concerned with high ratings for its championship series/game. Bud Selig couldn't care less if Toronto and San Diego are in the World Series. NHL commissioner Gary Bettman loves an Edmonton-Florida Stanley Cup Final. PGA commish Tim Finchem would be delighted if Tiger misses the cut at the Masters.



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    Posted 10/19/2010 3:02 AM

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvkKdXLwt0U
    Spurs having some help vs Suns
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_JjuEPbnrDk&feature=related
    payback vs refs
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    Posted 10/19/2010 3:09 AM

    Well at least this is on topic

    Here is where proper grammar and spelling would be really useful for you. I don't know what your point is because you are "writing like you are talking". I can't hear you, I've never heard you so speak why don't you just write like you are communicating to someone online?! It makes no sense that you bring up the MOST obvious example of a game and series being fixed by the NBA (2002 WCF), and then implying that we are all lunatics for claiming conspiracy.

    Also just because David Aldridge pointed out he's not "butt covering" doesn't mean he isn't, he still is employed by the NBA and of course he would not do a serious piece that would be detrimental to the NBA. That would be a bad business practice. Plus, let's say it is true, does he have to know about it in the first place for it to be happening? NO! If it is a conspiracy I would think it would be mostly limited to the refs and Stern. So of course DA would write that way, whether  if he knows and is playing stupid or not.

    Besides you can throw out a bunch of stats to support anything you want, like I could tell you that out of all the pro sports leagues in the US, NONE of them have as few champions to title games/series ratio as the NBA, by a long shot. None of them have nearly as many repeats let alone threepeats as the NBA either. But I am not as stupid as DA wants to think we are, to think that the NBA has always been like this for over 36 years! David Stern has only been commissioner since 84. That is when this stuff started getting crazy. And as to DA saying the Bulls haven't been back since 98 and the Knicks haven't been there in a long time, that's not a problem when the Lakers are there or the Celtics. Oh the Spurs were there 4 times! They have never won a back to back though and I think they should have and obviously they can't be THAT obvious as to always have the Lakers there every year, but they sure are there a lot. Also it is pretty weird how the Lakers even got Magic Johnson with the first pick if you ask me. It is also weird how they got Pau Gasol for nothing. Also it was weird how they got Kobe at the 13th pick for Divac, and then later make up for Divac by getting Shaq. It was also weird how NY got to pick Patrick Ewing after Stern left the folded corner envelope for last.

    Yes the best team usually win, but how do they get there, year after year after year after year? With help from the whistles. They don't outright call it for the Lakers every time (except game 6 2002 WCF), that would be too obvious. But they definitely know the little "momentum killer" calls, or the "take the fans out of the game" calls, and vice versa, or get the star player or immensely vital player in foul trouble early calls. Not to mention the non calls that save Kobe from ever getting into foul trouble like Greg Oden. And of course it doesn't always work out how they planned, just look at Lebron not making it and the Spurs and Magic making it.

    I know all this knowledge would be wasted on your tiny brain so this is basically for everyone else because it is futile to argue with someone with their head up their own butt covering.
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    Posted 10/19/2010 3:25 AM

    Posted By Fallen_Deity on 10/19/2010 3:02 AM
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fvkKdXLwt0U
    Spurs having some help vs Suns
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Jju...re=related
    payback vs refs

    Damn man! I didn't think any one would beat me to a reply at 3am!
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    Posted 10/19/2010 4:19 PM

    kill time eh? haha i knew it.
    Actually, Tom, i did not watch those movies, because, i dont believe in that hocus pocus sad story. But i can tell you that....
    David aldridge is employed by the Turner Television networks.

    All of those things that you said, actually were not that hard to get through my tiny little brain, its your huge EGO, that i cant seem to understand. ;). You think all that stuff is so wierd, but thats only because you make it seem wierd. You can create any reason to dislike something, if you force your mind to believe it. Do you watch baseball? in between playing WoW and lurking on the forums? I will tell you how great teams are able to WIN year in and year out.
    The NewYork Yankees, notorious for showing up in the playoffs or world series, the city of new york, very prosperous, money always being made, money being spent. Combine that with die hard fans, how do you get die hard fans, you get Amazing athletes, how do you get amazing athletes, rich owners, and rich owners take time to come by. Not everyone can be lucky at once right?
    So pretend your an adult, and pretend you do leave your house on occasion and go out into the real world, and lets just pretend you know how the "real world" or "RL" works. It is not that hard to understand, cmon now.
    Bad calls happen to EVERYONE!!!! So please stop thinking the Blazers are like some abused dog in an abandoned junk yard run by nazi's. Because they're not. They may be unfortunate, it does happen to people, right tom...?
    Talkin bout Kobe never getting into foul trouble, haha, he doesnt even play defense so how can he get into foul trouble? hahah. Greg Oden plays Center, he is going to try and block shots, and he is GOING to foul, its up to him to whether he wants to Sit the game or not, just like its up to him to take care of his knee.

    Yea haha, about LeBron, its funny you mention that now, because every other day it is all about how he's not really that good, or how he doesnt count as a great one because he hasnt won a ring. Well i can garuntee the world that if he had won a championship right now, you would be turning it around and saying " Look at LeBron, the Refs want him to win." So please make up your mind. Theyre refs, i would really like to see you do better, if theyre reffing a game and seeing all of those things happen so fast, and making call after call, your bound to make a mistake, i mean the players on the court may not be human, but the refs, unfortunatley are.



    It is wierd how all that happened, but whats also wierd, is how the Blazers have all these 1st round draft picks for starters, all with equally amazing skills, yet they dont work together as best they should, refuse to take care of their health, and so they fall to defeat year in and year out.
    Its always amusing,You tom, you still are calling me stupid and dumb, and its just gotten silly.
    The Team doesnt win championships, so there must be an NBA conspiracy?
    The players dont take care of themselves, so it must be a trainer conspiracy?

    ha!please
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    Posted 10/20/2010 1:36 AM

    Posted By TayC on 10/19/2010 4:19 PM
    kill time eh? haha i knew it.
    Actually, Tom, i did not watch those movies, because, i dont believe in that hocus pocus sad story. But i can tell you that....
    David aldridge is employed by the Turner Television networks.

    All of those things that you said, actually were not that hard to get through my tiny little brain, its your huge EGO, that i cant seem to understand. ;). You think all that stuff is so wierd, but thats only because you make it seem wierd. You can create any reason to dislike something, if you force your mind to believe it. Do you watch baseball? in between playing WoW and lurking on the forums? I will tell you how great teams are able to WIN year in and year out.
    The NewYork Yankees, notorious for showing up in the playoffs or world series, the city of new york, very prosperous, money always being made, money being spent. Combine that with die hard fans, how do you get die hard fans, you get Amazing athletes, how do you get amazing athletes, rich owners, and rich owners take time to come by. Not everyone can be lucky at once right?
    So pretend your an adult, and pretend you do leave your house on occasion and go out into the real world, and lets just pretend you know how the "real world" or "RL" works. It is not that hard to understand, cmon now.
    Bad calls happen to EVERYONE!!!! So please stop thinking the Blazers are like some abused dog in an abandoned junk yard run by nazi's. Because they're not. They may be unfortunate, it does happen to people, right tom...?
    Talkin bout Kobe never getting into foul trouble, haha, he doesnt even play defense so how can he get into foul trouble? hahah. Greg Oden plays Center, he is going to try and block shots, and he is GOING to foul, its up to him to whether he wants to Sit the game or not, just like its up to him to take care of his knee.

    Yea haha, about LeBron, its funny you mention that now, because every other day it is all about how he's not really that good, or how he doesnt count as a great one because he hasnt won a ring. Well i can garuntee the world that if he had won a championship right now, you would be turning it around and saying " Look at LeBron, the Refs want him to win." So please make up your mind. Theyre refs, i would really like to see you do better, if theyre reffing a game and seeing all of those things happen so fast, and making call after call, your bound to make a mistake, i mean the players on the court may not be human, but the refs, unfortunatley are.



    It is wierd how all that happened, but whats also wierd, is how the Blazers have all these 1st round draft picks for starters, all with equally amazing skills, yet they dont work together as best they should, refuse to take care of their health, and so they fall to defeat year in and year out.
    Its always amusing,You tom, you still are calling me stupid and dumb, and its just gotten silly.
    The Team doesnt win championships, so there must be an NBA conspiracy?
    The players dont take care of themselves, so it must be a trainer conspiracy?

    ha!please
    MLB isn't a very good supporting argument.  The Yankees have all-star rosters because of the lack of a salary-cap in the MLB allows them to outright buy any good player(i.e.  Johnny Damon was a killer for Boston against them so they went out and bought him).  Also Tom was saying the refs want Lebron to win so thats a moot point.  I actually know some high school and small school college refs and they have told me given the opportunity to ref the NBA would NOT be a dream come true because it is a terribly officiated mess through and through.  I am not believing that the Blazers are the only team that gets bogus calls against them.  However I am saying it is small market teams that tend to get the short end of the stick.  When Roy hit the 30ft game winner against Houston?  There was a non-existent foul on Yao giving them the lead it was a miraculous play by Roy to get the win.  I understand that if the Blazers played tighter that most of these situations could be avoided, yet, they shouldn't get tossed aside against a large market team if they have a less than stellar day.  I have seen Lakers play far worse than their opponent but still win, not because of some nice shooting, but because they somehow get to the foul line on touch fouls.
    I am a fan of competing til the final buzzer!!!!!!!!!!
  1. TayC
    TayC
    Posts: 1804

    Posted 10/20/2010 11:43 AM

    I mean your problem is right there. Small market. Like my previous post, teams with money get better players, better trainers, because they can afford it. Refs make bad calls, it is notorious through every sport. Are you going to tell me that the World Cup Referee was in on the conspiracy too, the Spanish Soccer Team conspiracy, they have been planning for the past 47 years?
    NO! Honestly that is a perfect example, if there was any a contraversal conspiracy call then it would be that, on that level, sheesh, but it wasnt, because people make mistakes, refs make bad calls. hahah. honestly i just typed in World cup conspiracy in google, and what i had mentioned before stands ever so true, that any fool with access to a computer can come up with a conspiracy theory. E.I.

    I was actually giving tom the benefit of the doubt, because if he actually believes that the refs make calls in lebrons favor, then he honestly doesn't know basketball and your right it would be a moot point.

    Thats just utterly ridiculous, does that go through your head when your watching a random game, in which foul after foul is being called? No, you dont think twice about it. The Hawks and the Bobcats, foul after foul, but it wouldnt be a conspiracy, because those are not large market teams. Or is it because theyre not successful teams, or is it because the Blazers and the Lakers are rivals, so you believe that there is a conspiracy to help the lakers continue riding success until the end of their days?

    Whichever it may be, it's still not the case. And if the Blazers had been world champions, on their way to a 3 peat, i bet you would not even be thinking about anything of this nature.But people in LA would......
    I am a fan of The Blazers ♂, the £-Train, and of course, The ¤ King. ™
  1. I''m OUT!
    I''m OUT!
    Posts: 1059

    Posted 10/20/2010 11:44 AM

    Posted By TayC on 10/19/2010 4:19 PM
    kill time eh? haha i knew it.
    Actually, Tom, i did not watch those movies, because, i dont believe in that hocus pocus sad story. But i can tell you that....
    David aldridge is employed by the Turner Television networks.

    All of those things that you said, actually were not that hard to get through my tiny little brain, its your huge EGO, that i cant seem to understand. ;). You think all that stuff is so wierd, but thats only because you make it seem wierd. You can create any reason to dislike something, if you force your mind to believe it. Do you watch baseball? in between playing WoW and lurking on the forums? I will tell you how great teams are able to WIN year in and year out.
    The NewYork Yankees, notorious for showing up in the playoffs or world series, the city of new york, very prosperous, money always being made, money being spent. Combine that with die hard fans, how do you get die hard fans, you get Amazing athletes, how do you get amazing athletes, rich owners, and rich owners take time to come by. Not everyone can be lucky at once right?
    So pretend your an adult, and pretend you do leave your house on occasion and go out into the real world, and lets just pretend you know how the "real world" or "RL" works. It is not that hard to understand, cmon now.
    Bad calls happen to EVERYONE!!!! So please stop thinking the Blazers are like some abused dog in an abandoned junk yard run by nazi's. Because they're not. They may be unfortunate, it does happen to people, right tom...?
    Talkin bout Kobe never getting into foul trouble, haha, he doesnt even play defense so how can he get into foul trouble? hahah. Greg Oden plays Center, he is going to try and block shots, and he is GOING to foul, its up to him to whether he wants to Sit the game or not, just like its up to him to take care of his knee.

    Yea haha, about LeBron, its funny you mention that now, because every other day it is all about how he's not really that good, or how he doesnt count as a great one because he hasnt won a ring. Well i can garuntee the world that if he had won a championship right now, you would be turning it around and saying " Look at LeBron, the Refs want him to win." So please make up your mind. Theyre refs, i would really like to see you do better, if theyre reffing a game and seeing all of those things happen so fast, and making call after call, your bound to make a mistake, i mean the players on the court may not be human, but the refs, unfortunatley are.



    It is wierd how all that happened, but whats also wierd, is how the Blazers have all these 1st round draft picks for starters, all with equally amazing skills, yet they dont work together as best they should, refuse to take care of their health, and so they fall to defeat year in and year out.
    Its always amusing,You tom, you still are calling me stupid and dumb, and its just gotten silly.
    The Team doesnt win championships, so there must be an NBA conspiracy?
    The players dont take care of themselves, so it must be a trainer conspiracy?

    ha!please
    David Aldridge is actually indirectly employed by the NBA. He is basically a salesman employed by TNT and their product is the NBA. It's not that hard to figure out. 

    I hate baseball so I never watch it. And once again it was besides the point I was making, especially after saying the NBA has the lowest champion to championship ratio in pro sports, and yet again you bring up something stupid because you can't read.

    Speaking of real world, no one in the real world would refer to it as RL unless they have no life except that which is on the internet.

    And for the record, I am not the only one calling you stupid and dumb on here, moron! A lot of people do. Probably a lot more who don't want to feed trolls. You either have the biggest denial complex ever or you really are that stupid. So if it is amusing to you, that is funny, because you are laughing at yourself.

    You sure do love talking about Lebron, it seems unhealthy. You also give him your affectionate little nicknames like lebrontron. Get out of here with that mushiness. Yes we all know how good and how talented Lebron is. Get over it.

    I never said there was a trainer conspiracy! There you go again putting words into my mouth. It's unbelievable how stupid you are, and how you can't attribute or keep track of who said what What's worse is you are so stupid you keep calling people out incorrectly. PROTIP: Just because someone other than you comments in a thread doesn't make them automatically agree with the title of said thread. Now will you admit you were wrong once again? I doubt it. You are too butt hurt over me being right and being in the constant state of denial you will dig deeper into your tiny brain for a stupid little insult, which you never seem to think all the way through before saying or you are just incapable of seeing how stupid it is because you say things like I am always on here, well look who's talking. You say I always say the same thing about you, well looks who's talking again. You say I play video games too much, well I'm not the confused little boy who prior to saying that about me several times now, proudly claimed "2k9 for life!" like an idiot. I also bet you have a lame WOW gamer tag. Like WOW4life or lebrontron. So which is it?

    But the biggest proof of how stupid you are is this: you post links to videos you haven't even watched to back up your point. What a retard.

    Anyway talking to you is like talking to a brick wall that has a button on it that says "generic insults" and another that says "devil's advocate". That is all you do right there, troll. I am done trying to talk to you. Like I said before you are the dumbest guy here, so what's the point in arguing with you any more?

    I am a fan of comcast and the blazers making deals that keep screwing us over!! woot!
  1. Fallen_Deity
    Fallen_Deity
    Posts: 440

    Posted 10/20/2010 12:40 PM

    Tay I am not talking about a worldwide conspiracy, The world cup had some missed calls and as a result they are looking into utilizing replay to help.  The NFL has challenges.  The NBA rules state that a foul cannot be overturned because of replay however if they watch a replay for a shot clock violation, they can tack on a foul, it needs to go both ways.  Atlanta is not as small of a market as you make it out to be, even when they were bad they had a good sized fan following.  Charlotte has had some bogus calls against them too, I don't follow them closely so I can't cite examples however.  If we were on a way to a 3-peat I would be happy, however, if we were still having to battle outrageous calls against us, I would not be as happy with the NBA.  I am the kind of basketball fan, that even if its 2 teams I despise, if one is getting treated unfair by refs I will be disgusted.
    I am a fan of competing til the final buzzer!!!!!!!!!!
  1. TayC
    TayC
    Posts: 1804

    Posted 10/20/2010 1:51 PM

    Wow tom, you seem distressed. Why must you constantly blow things up and out of proportion, didnt you say you would try to resist, are you just that infatuated with me? if im a forum troll, youre a forum terrorist.
     I already stated i put that video in there so you could get your jolly's off, i already stated i didnt watch it, and it wasnt backing up any point, it was for your own personal enjoyment, so chill off my D***. 
    How do you know everything? How can you go about assuming you know everything? "oh yea like DA works for me, its not that hard to figure out, if your like an obsessive compulsive lunatic with no friends but lots of wrong answers, like me"  Youre right, how can i beat that ? 
    You say
      PROTIP: Just because someone other than you comments in a thread doesn't make them automatically agree with the title of said thread. 
    Pro? Like WTF? Pro? like im a pro at being an ass on internet forums pro? Well, yes tom i knew that.
    Why dont you chill out, because you're doing something similar, you think that wherever i go, i am talking to YOU, that i am only aiming my post at you. Why would i want to talk to you? I already everything your going to say, and you listen about as well as you drive drunk, so no. I may mention your name in my posts, but its always nice to give readers, a reference about someone who, in your case, thinks, or rather, knows...they...know..everything?
    I dont play WoW, i dont have a lame gamertag, im honestly dont even know wtf that is, so your wrong.( idk, perhaps you dont understand that, because it is so irrelevant to your constant state of being correct about everything)
     Hate baseball? Wow. im sure its a sad story to why, but because you dont watch baseball, you cant understand what im saying, therefore i am wrong.
     HAHAHA. WOOOOWWWW. YOUR A SOPHISTICATED ADULT(SARCASTICALLY) Thats why i am stupid, because you dont know about something that someone else does, that makes them a retard? I mention baseball because some of the most contraversail sports calls ever made have been in baseball. The yankee's, they get alot of horrible calls in their favor, but its because players like Jeter, are so good, and smart, that he can fall right before the ball hits him, and make it look like it nailed him on the forehead. Bad calls all the time in baseball, but a team like the Yankee's are like the Lakers, or Celtics, always on top, always going to the post season, usually going to world series, you know they have won more than any other team. (ps.CanREAD, just give me something worth it, hehe.)
     Dear Tom,
    Good luck in life.
    Yea tom, you can tease me about having a favorite player, and all that, but you'd be acting like a child, so then what would i do right?
     Speaking of real world, no one in the real world would refer to it as RL unless they have no life except that which is on the internet.
     Damn man! I didn't think any one would beat me to a reply at 3am!


    Im just not going to say anything about that, but im laughing SUPER intensely at the moment.
    Your gonna go at me, because i play 2k9, and i dont like the newer versions of the 2k basketball series, thats all you got? Cmon tom, you just watched your whole team talk about video games, and half of them said the 2k sports series, so you wanna get on them about that too? Once again you have taking countless hours out of your day to attack someone via the internet, congratulations tom, but there is no prize, please try to stay on topic or we will have to find a sitter for you.

    @ fallen. Oh no, and i didnt mean to put words in your mouth to make it seem like you think all sports are rigged, i was trying to incorporate the example of, if one of them is, wouldnt all of them? and i just wanted to show that, everyone has their sport, and in that sport, there is always someone who thinks conspiracy is the issue. The ATL CHA, was just an example, not a real event, i do, however know that the dirty birds do have a decently sized fan base. But if thats what upsets you the most, well, hey man thats life, life can be dissapointing. Your driving and going pretty fast and all of a sudden a green light turns red, you cant always get what you want. Refs are going to make mistakes, if it happens to your team alot, well then im sorry, you know, what can you do? There is always something happening in everysport, for every foul called, there's at least 4 or 5 that dont get mentioned, not even a glance. The replay rule, is a HUGE thing. Starts in football, then basketball tries it out for playoffs only at first, then entire season, where baseball still doesnt have it. Like the other day when jeter DID NOT get hit by the ball, it was so close, and he moved at the best time, so it appeared as it hit him, so he gets a base, no replays allowed, so he gets it. Or a while back in the NFL, the saints were trying to clinch playoff spot, had to win, bust out an INCREDIBLE play, but miss the extra point, and lose. Well a week after reports came out that there was several defensive players who were offside or comming other penalties, so they could of had another chance to win. again, just an example.
    I dont agree with the rules to nba replay, they should be able to overturn a call, but really i dont think it would stop horrible calls from being made, and ultimatly it would defeat the purpose of a referee, its all about the honor system, like when you buy a newspaper, do you take out just one?




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  1. Kassandra
    Kassandra
    Posts: 466

    Posted 10/20/2010 11:20 PM

    Posted By TayC on 10/16/2010 3:18 PM
    you know your cute when your angry.Now you. Talking with. Too many unnecessary periods.
    Like you really think that the refs are out to keep the Boston Celtics and Los Angeles Lakers at the top of the basketball world. 
    There is just no way in the world, that perhaps these two teams emergered in the early years of this sport as the dominant forces to be reckoned with. The Lakers get WACK calls against them all the time, and i bet on there forum they have a ref conspiracy thread too. really dude, if im the dumbest guy on here, what does that make you? you know?


    wow Tay, really? starting fights on newer threads? give it up. oh, and before you retort: remember that i've exposed you for the lying sexist ignorant troll that you are. no ifs, ands or buts about it (that means your lying rhetoric manes nothing, now matter how much you think it does just becaue YOU think it does. lmao
    I am a fan of my team fighting to win each and every game.
  1. TayC
    TayC
    Posts: 1804

    Posted 10/22/2010 6:03 PM

    No thanks, im good for now hun, maybe a little later, yeah?
    I am a fan of The Blazers ♂, the £-Train, and of course, The ¤ King. ™
  1. Kassandra
    Kassandra
    Posts: 466

    Posted 10/23/2010 6:18 PM

    Posted By TayC on 10/22/2010 6:03 PM
    No thanks, im good for now hun, maybe a little later, yeah?

    that makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. you also seem to be forgetting -- you like GUYS, not girls. strange.

    ~ Kassandra
    I am a fan of my team fighting to win each and every game.
  1. TayC
    TayC
    Posts: 1804

    Posted 10/24/2010 4:25 PM

    hahaha, yea thats clever.
    I am a fan of The Blazers ♂, the £-Train, and of course, The ¤ King. ™
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