Greatest Trail Blazers All-Time Team: Shooting Guard
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 09/20/2010 12:27 PM

    Who is the Greatest Shooting Guard in Trail Blazers Franchise History?
    Clyde Drexler (37)
     69%
    Jim Paxson (0)
     0%
    Geoff Petrie (4)
     7%
    Brandon Roy (13)
     24%
    After voting in ESPN's Greatest Trail Blazers Starting 5 , I wanted to take it one step further and find out why people voted the way they did. So here's how this will play out. Every 3-5 days or so, I'll post a new poll with 5 options for that specific position. Once the Starting 5 is taken care of, there will be a vote for 'Super Subs' where I'll pool together a list of the players who didn't win their position battles. Users will be able to vote up to 3 players(1 center, 1 froward, 1 guard) to fill out our 8-man rotation. Chemistry matters as well, so we will need to vote on 4 role players to fill out the roster. These players will consist of Trail Blazers who came off the bench the majority of their playing career. Once we have our team in place, they need someone to coach them, right?  All right, here we go...

    Note: All Notable information courtesy of OregonLive.com and Trail Blazers media guide


    Shooting Guard

    Clyde Drexler
    : 6'7", 210 lbs, University of Houston

    Seasons in Portland: 12 (1983-95)

    Stats: 867 games, 20.8 ppg, 6.2 rpg, 5.7 apg

    Notable: Franchise leader in points, rebounds and steals, and second in assists ... Franchise best eight All-Star appearances and franchise best 21 triple doubles ... Four selections to All-NBA team, including first team in 1991-1992 ... Holds single-season scoring record at 27.2 ppg in 1988-1989 ... One of five Blazers to score 50 or more points in a game ... Franchise playoff leader in every category except three-pointers and blocks ... His 25 points in the 1992 All-Star Game is the most in franchise history ... Elected into the Naismith Hall of Fame in 2004 ... Blazers retired his No. 22.








    Jim Paxson:
    6'6", 200 lbs, University of Dayton

    Seasons in Portland: 9 (1979-88)

    Stats: 627 games, 16.0 ppg, 3.2 apg, 2.6 rpg

    Notable: Ranks 3rd in field goals made All-Time (4,058)5th in points All-time (10,003), 4th in steals All-Time (857), 5th in games played All-Time (627), 6th in assists All-time (2,007), 6th in free throws made All-Time (1,800), 7th in minutes played All-time (18,398), and 10th in field goal percentage (1,000 FG's made minimum) (.503). Paxson was an All-Star in 1983 and 1984 and is one of five Blazers to be named to the All-NBA first or second team (Bill Walton, Lucas, Clyde Drexler, Brandon Roy).









    Geoff Petrie: 6'4", 190 lbs, Princeton University

    Seasons in Portland: 6 (1970-76)

    Stats: 446 games, 21.8 ppg, 4.6 apg, 2.9 rpg

    Notable: Considered "the orginial Trail Blazer" because he was the franchise's first draft pick ... Two-time All-Star (1971, 1974) ... 1971 NBA co-Rookie of the Year with Boston's Dave Cowens ... No. 45 was retired by Blazers in 1981 ... Held franchise single-game scoring mark of 51 points for 22 seasons. Accomplished the feat twice in a three-month span in 1973 ... 6th all-time in scoring (9,732), 5th all-time in assists (2,057), 5th all-time in field goals made (3,970), 7th all-time in free throws made (1,792), 10th all-time in free throw percentage (500 FT's made minimum) (.805) and 10th all-time in minutes played (16,787) in team history.








    Brandon Roy: 6'6", 215lbs, University of Washington

    Seasons in Portland: 4 (2006-current)

    Stats: 274 games, 20.2 ppg, 5.0 apg, 4.6 rpg

    Notable: He is one of four Blazers to be named to three All-Star games (08,09,10). One of three to win the NBA's Rookie of the Year (2007). And he was the third fastest to record 5,000 points. Ranks 4th in postseason scoring averages (26.7 in 2009), 3rd in most points scored in a playoff game (42, at Houston, 4/21/09). Led the franchise to back to back playoff appearances for firs time since 2003. Named All-NBA 2nd Team in 2009 and All-NBA 3rd Team in 2010

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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 09/20/2010 12:32 PM

    This one was a lot tougher for me than the previous vote. Basically it came down to Brandon and Clyde. While Clyde was the athletic freak who could fill up a stat sheet like none other, Brandon will lull the defense to sleep and before you know it, he's got 20/5/5 on the board. Even though I believe Brandon is more clutch and probably a better overall jump shooter, Clyde played better defense, as evidenced by his 2 steals and nearly 1 block career per game averages and Drexler put the team on his back for the best 3 year stretch run this town has seen. So, until Roy gets the team to the Finals, I think it's got to be The Glide.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 09/20/2010 12:59 PM

    Tough call between Brandon and Clyde.  I'm hoping we start to see some of that defense from Brandon too. By the time Brandons career ends, I think he will be the winner though.
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  1. Dman
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    Posted 09/20/2010 5:01 PM

    Petrie was a dream to watch, but different era, different training, different athletes. I hope Brandon will some day have the same refuse to lose that Clyde exibited his entire career. A lot of the guys who played with Clyde thought he was an a(*h)&^, but thats because he refused to let people sluff off and not give 100% all the time. If Brandon wants a ring, he better get the same attitude.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 09/20/2010 5:24 PM

    I voted Roy over Clyde.  Roy has exhibited leadership qualities both on and off the court that Clyde was famous for backing away from.  These leadership qualities are the difference for me.  We as fans, should just be grateful that we've had BOTH in Blazer jerseys.  Like Hawes, this one was MUCH more difficult for me as well.
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  1. FamousRoy
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    Posted 09/20/2010 5:30 PM

    I feel bad for Brandon.  He's obviously our current franchise player, and will likely stay with the team and continue to etch his name in the books.  But Clyde is unquestionably the best Blazer shooting guard, and the best Blazer player for that matter.  He did incredible things for the Blazers for 12 years.  Brandon has only played one-third of that time, and hasn't played quite at Clyde's level.  I have no doubt that Brandon can elevate his game to match Clyde or even surpass it, but he's not there yet.

    I ran in to a similar scenario when I did the ESPN Franchise Five with the Celtics.  It's unfortunate that the Truth plays the same position that Larry Bird did.
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  1. Hopman27
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    Posted 09/20/2010 11:31 PM

    Hey, DHawes, I'm liking what you're doing here.   Sounds cool.
    I voted for Roy, because I wasn't alive during the time of the Glide. 
    Really is a close battle between Roy and Drexler, though.  But both are truly great players. 
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  1. freddead
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    Posted 09/21/2010 1:10 AM

    lol i like how its between B-roy and drexler i voted drexler cause B-roy hasnt been around long enough to put his hat in with a legend like drexler
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  1. barnettfan
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    Posted 09/21/2010 4:20 AM

    I had to weigh in on this because I believe most people at this sight never got a chance to see Petrie play. It was a toss up between Geoff and Clyde and I went with Geoff. Dman had it right it was a differant era for a couple of reasons 1. No 3 point arc; had there been you could have added another 2000 points to his total easily , Blazers were soooooooo bad that the best Geoff could do was fire about 70% of his shots were from 3 point land. He was a pure shooter with a stroke you would not believe.Even though it was Jim Barnetts 40 footer that coined the phrase 'Rip City" it probably should have gone to Geoff.2. Geoff missed almost 2 full seasons of the six he played due to knee injuries one was over half the season if sports medicine was what it was than as it is now who knows how long he could have played.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 09/21/2010 9:45 AM

    The only downfall to Petrie was his injuries. He was only able to play 6 seasons in the league, but if he could have prolonged his career and statistics, he could have been arguably the greatest Trail Blazer ever.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 09/21/2010 9:52 AM

    The Glide. Hands down. If it weren't for probably the greatest player of all-time playing in his era, Drex would be the one with 2-3 rings. He was that good. You could also chalk up an MVP in 92 as well as he finished 2nd behind MJ in 92. Clyde was easily a Top 50 greatest player of all-time and when most magazines rank their top 50, he's usually anywhere from 25-35. He did it all: ran the floor, finished in traffic, played the passing lanes, swatted shots, hit the 3, and brought an excitement to the game unparalleled by any other. Brandon still has time to make up ground on Clyde but if we're having this debate right now, with current achievements, it's simply CD.
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  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 09/21/2010 1:32 PM

    Quick question, why is Walton not in the voting? Or is he too much of a Celtic so he does not count?
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  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 09/21/2010 1:39 PM

    sorry i lost my mind forget my ignorance ^^
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  1. laric33
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    Posted 09/21/2010 3:19 PM

    I think I would throw my vote to Drexler, really because Roy is still decently young in the league and everything... Ask this question in another 4 or 5 years, and I'll would probably (Hopefully) vote for Roy. I think he has the potential to pass up Drexler on this list.
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  1. dunkster
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    Posted 09/21/2010 4:38 PM

    There is no doubt,  It's Geoff Petrie, He shot the ball from way past where the 3 point line is today, if they would have had a 3 point line back in his day he would have averaged 50 points a game!  People today just don't realize he didn't get to shoot from outside the 3 point line,  His shot was so sweet,  Rip City baby!
    I am a fan of Geoff Petrie, he shot the ball from way past where the 3 pt line is, if they would have had a 3 pt line in his day he would have averaged 50 pts a game
  1. FamousRoy
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    Posted 09/21/2010 6:40 PM

    @JamsMashers:  Walton wasn't a shooting guard, buddy.  He's 6'11''.
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  1. jamsmashers
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    Posted 09/21/2010 10:31 PM

    >o< noted
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  1. daddylogan
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    Posted 09/22/2010 3:35 PM

    Posted By barnettfan on 09/21/2010 4:20 AM
    I had to weigh in on this because I believe most people at this sight never got a chance to see Petrie play. It was a toss up between Geoff and Clyde and I went with Geoff. Dman had it right it was a differant era for a couple of reasons 1. No 3 point arc; had there been you could have added another 2000 points to his total easily , Blazers were soooooooo bad that the best Geoff could do was fire about 70% of his shots were from 3 point land. He was a pure shooter with a stroke you would not believe.Even though it was Jim Barnetts 40 footer that coined the phrase 'Rip City" it probably should have gone to Geoff.2. Geoff missed almost 2 full seasons of the six he played due to knee injuries one was over half the season if sports medicine was what it was than as it is now who knows how long he could have played.

    This says it all for me. I watched Geoff as a young man and it was one of the purest strokes ever!

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  1. Greg Lawrence
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    Posted 09/22/2010 4:12 PM

    After seeing the final shot Brandon made against Houston nobody should doubt who's the best ever.  I watched Clyde though out his career and never ever saw him do something like that.  Brandon almost always makes the game winner while Glyde was capable he wasn't dependable on the game winner.  Used to frustrate the living 0290qrewqu out of me.  The biggest and most telling difference between them is that Brandon is physically impossing and can walk through most of the defenders that are put against him.  Brandon only needs to get a little more forcefull with his teammates.  Check the tapes you won't see any tapes were The Glide was just given the ball at the end of the game from the inbounds pass through to the final shot which Brandon usually makes.
    I am a fan of Turning Batum loose to wreck havock wherever and when ever he can. What do you mean those shots aren't yours to take.
  1. commontongue
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    Posted 09/22/2010 4:16 PM

    I didnt live here when Petrie and Paxson played here, but i did when Clyde and the squad were in the early 90's. Now im watching Brandon, and were it not for the man is so skilled with either hand, i would have probably gone with Clyde.  Fourth quarter, i would much rather have the rock in Brandons hands.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 09/22/2010 4:17 PM

    By the way, good stuff DHawes22.
    I am a fan of our new roster playing with and for eachother.
  1. t bone
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    Posted 09/23/2010 9:01 AM

    The current body of work demands Clyde here but Brandon could approach Clyde statistically if he plays here his entire career.  The intangible consideration is I think Brandon has more leadership potential than Clyde had.  A ring or two would sure make a solid argument for Brandon over Clyde as well.
  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 09/23/2010 10:21 AM

    Posted By commontongue on 09/22/2010 4:17 PM
    By the way, good stuff DHawes22.
    Thanks, there's more to come!
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 09/23/2010 10:22 AM

    Oh, by the way, once the 50 vote minimum has been reached, I'm going to declare a winner. I won't lock the threads and people can still vote, but since there is over 50 votes, the winner for starting shooting guard on the Greatest Trail Blazers team is Clyde Drexler.
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