What is our Plan B?
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  1. BFG
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    Posted 07/31/2010 8:01 PM

    Patty Mills is the answer!!! Let the man play and he will show everyone how much he can change a game in a positive way. I think everybody is forgetting the way he played in Beijing against the Redeem team...... both times!
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/01/2010 12:23 AM

    he looked "ok" in summer league... he is prolli not thee answer but could be a good role player if we even keep him.
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  1. lamarcus12
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    Posted 08/01/2010 5:31 PM

    if they get to get a better player i would get devin harris or mo williams or monte ellis
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 08/01/2010 6:00 PM

    Posted By lamarcus12 on 08/01/2010 5:31 PM
    if they get to get a better player i would get devin harris or mo williams or monte ellis

    Out of those Ellis for sure.
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/01/2010 10:26 PM

    well ellis is the 1 out of the 3 who is a good defender and can score with the best of them. also he gives the lakers fits. i wouldn't mind him in a blazers uniform as long as he stays outta trouble.... we'll see if golden state is willing to let him go and at what price.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 08/03/2010 3:41 PM

    Posted By Blazers4Life247 on 08/01/2010 10:26 PM
    well ellis is the 1 out of the 3 who is a good defender and can score with the best of them. also he gives the lakers fits. i wouldn't mind him in a blazers uniform as long as he stays outta trouble.... we'll see if golden state is willing to let him go and at what price.

    Monta is known for a lot of things but being regarded as a good defender is not one of them. Its not to say he can't play D, but he's not known for his defense since Don Nelson doesn't require his players to play on that end of the court.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 08/04/2010 7:23 PM

    Posted By ClydeFrog on 08/03/2010 3:41 PM


    Monta is known for a lot of things but being regarded as a good defender is not one of them. Its not to say he can't play D, but he's not known for his defense since Don Nelson doesn't require his players to play on that end of the court.

    hahah. but are you talking like, has no D like Kobe? or is he more decent than that?
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/04/2010 9:31 PM

    come on guy, be honest how many golden state warrior games did u watch last yr? lol... how can u possibly judge his perimeter d. performance when u have not seen him enough of him. he might not be a top tier defender. but he is a savy hard nosed player overall period. if no cp3 deal is pulled off. monta ellis just might be my next choice.+ he is still young and has tons of room to grow
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 08/06/2010 7:13 PM

    Posted By Blazers4Life247 on 08/04/2010 9:31 PM
    come on guy, be honest how many golden state warrior games did u watch last yr? lol... how can u possibly judge his perimeter d. performance when u have not seen him enough of him. he might not be a top tier defender. but he is a savy hard nosed player overall period. if no cp3 deal is pulled off. monta ellis just might be my next choice.+ he is still young and has tons of room to grow

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  1. Drexler McStyles
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    Posted 08/11/2010 10:59 AM

    I cant believe anyone in their right mind would want Ellis on this team. He's a selfish, shoot first PG. Thats the last thing we need. What we do need is a guy that can shoot the 3 and play good defense, someone similar to a (younger) Derek Fisher. With Roy at the 2 and handling the ball a good bit, we dont need a 20ppg scorer at the point.
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 08/11/2010 11:17 AM

    What about Deron Williams?  I know he's in the same division but with him being unhappy with utah could he be on the market soon?
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  1. RjP
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    Posted 08/11/2010 1:43 PM

    Deron? xD Utah never trade hem. But what about T.J.Ford? Indy sign Darren and they want veteran PG and they need C.

    Przybilla for T.J.Ford?

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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 08/11/2010 2:50 PM

    No way Utah trades Deron Williams and even if they did so, Portland would be one of the last teams they'd consider sending him to for multiple reasons. First, we are in the same division and I don't think the Jazz want to face him four times each and every season. Second, we are not only in the same division but divisional rivals. When's the last time we have dealt with Utah? Finally, they hate us even more so after the past two restricted free agents we went after on consecutive summers.

    A big NO to TJ Ford. The Pacers want him gone so badly they are considering a buyout of his contract. They were even rumored to offering him up in the 4-team trade just to get rid of him. If he's not healthy, he's arguing with the coaching staff.

    Time to scratch DC off the list of potential Plan B point guards. Sad to see him go for so little.
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/11/2010 3:33 PM

    only way we get deron is when his contract is up.

    tj ford is just a big NO!


    so whats the next person on the wishlist? i still say mo williams might be the best option if we can get him for cheap.
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  1. RjP
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    Posted 08/12/2010 2:08 AM

    Ehh, DC is gone, and from PG i want Harris, and from big mans L.Amundson.
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  1. commontongue
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    Posted 08/12/2010 6:48 AM

    This i know for certain. Dre' is a frickin iron man, second i believe to A.C.Green in most consecutive games played. I could be wrong.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 08/12/2010 1:15 PM

    I heard this rumor from another board that the idea of Bayless, Rudy, and Dre for Devin Harris, pick, and Kris Humphries is being floated around. I'm all for consolidation, but I just don't see Harris as THAT much an upgrade to include Jerryd into the deal.  Yes, the backcourt may be crowded now, but that doesn't mean we should just give away our talent. Or maybe that pick is an unprotected first? Haha...who knows
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 08/12/2010 7:37 PM

    Well a deal aloong the lines of Dre, Rudy, Pryz for Ellis, and Tolliver could of happened but latest word is that Tolliver is is heading to Minnesota. SO who is left for a plan B, well for the i think 8th time now that i have mentioned this, Allen Iverson still remains a free agent, now alot of you say, "Oh dude he is so old, he's done dont bother." Well excuse me, If Iverson is done, then please tell me what is Miller....Well Done? Iverson is a year older than andre miller. I mean you guys want to win right? Sign Iverson to a 1 year deal, push the team to the playoffs and just look at the playoff stats between Miller and Iverson, almost a 15 ppg difference, now dont all jump on me and yell " Scoring isnt everything" because i know, i also know that 29 is higher than 16. 

    Or hell guys, Rasheed Wallace is about  to retire, perhaps Portland could convince him to come back home. I mean, yeah the guy isnt perfect, most technicals ever, but c'mon he's a beast. There are a few others that are out there its just you guys have to be willing to compromise,Earl Boykins, thats your manuverable point gaurd who doesnt take shots first, Ike Diogu, Ime Udoka, Kwame Brown, Earl Watson, you gotta look around and you have to be patient. A basketball team not like a new fancy car that works %100 right from the start, its more like a wine that is locked away and botttled up for a while, if nothing changes it, it will taste like excellence.
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/13/2010 2:50 AM

    old wine is disgusting... lol just sayin.

    but yeh if it were up to me i'd try to make a deal fpr mo williams as i believe he fits this system very well... if we can get him in a swap for rudy i'd do it in a heartbeat. now if they want to much then that deal is dead. we are not getting cp3 we all know that now, we are not getting carmelo anthony, nor deron williams so everyone stop dreaming. we have to settle for players like mo williams, monte ellis, devin harris... or stick with trying to develop bayless.? what about trying to get chauncey billups?(has 1yr left) luke ridnour was a perfect fit here too but now the timberwolves signed him... jason kidd?
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  1. RjP
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    Posted 08/13/2010 6:20 AM

    Do you really think that Nuggets give Billups for us? Mo Williams and Monta is not Blazers style players. Harris is no bad. 

     I heard that Wolves want trade Johny Flynn. What about hem in our team? I Think if we trade Rudy or Bayless, t-Wolves agree in this.

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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/13/2010 7:25 AM

    yes i do think they'd trade billups (maybe not to us) they have ty lawson waiting in the shadows they are gonna lose carmelo anthony and they have not been in any hurry to re-sign billups for w.e reason... and i disagree with you on mo williams he is the perfect fit for the system that nate runs and would compliment roy well(as he complimented lebron very well) he is not the best defensively but his offense makes up for it i think he would embrace his role here. and we might be able to keep andre as a 1-2 punch



    and i have never read anywhere or heard anything about johnny flynn being traded... maybe thats wishful thinking.... they are not getting rubio anytime soon.
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  1. bonjustin8
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    Posted 08/13/2010 8:28 AM

    Get MIKE CONLEY! But don't give up ANDRE MILLER. That is possible, without even trading Batum and/or Fernandez...
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  1. RjP
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    Posted 08/13/2010 11:57 AM

    Mo Williams is good in Regular Season, but in play offs he is 0.
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/13/2010 12:06 PM

    so is lebron. whats that prove? nothing at all...
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  1. DDL_12
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    Posted 08/13/2010 1:57 PM

    Monta Ellis!!!
    we trade rudy, bayless, prz/miller
    we get Ellis,
    monta ellis would solve our scoring droughts we had in the playoffs and reg season, him and roy would be a perfect fit for our backcourt, ellis would compliment aldridge and batum by running the floor, and b roy and oden can beast the half court game. ellis is a good playmaker on defence to. and i agree with Dhawes22 with there being to much talent. we would have andre backing up ellis at point and teaching armon the ropes for next season back up. Matthews can get alot of back up mins for both SF and SG position with E-Mail and babbitt being the 2.5 back ups. camby can back up both C and PF positions in the playoffs if needed if not duante, and jeff should be solid next season.
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  1. cransford24
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    Posted 08/13/2010 9:33 PM

    Posted By RjP on 08/12/2010 2:08 AM
    Ehh, DC is gone, and from PG i want Harris, and from big mans L.Amundson.


    Yes.  completely agreed,  getting those two players would slve all the blazers roster issues besides too much depth at every position
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  1. cransford24
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    Posted 08/13/2010 9:39 PM

    also i like ellis if we cant get harris but I can deffinantly see there being some possible chemistry issues if we get him, just because he would have to take a secondary role to brandon and possibly even lamarcus.  also im not sure if his style of play would be any better than andre millers just because they are pretty similar.  Also i would have loved for the blazers to get collison bt unfortuantly there is very little chance of that happening since he just got traded to the pacers. 
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  1. cransford24
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    Posted 08/13/2010 9:46 PM

    Also i know not a lot of people would take conley over harris or ellis, but I could see him being a great fit for the blazers since they need another three point shooter since roy gets most of his points in the paint.  he could potentially be a better fit than any of the pg's that have been mentioned on this discussion. 
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  1. rasheedfan2005
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    Posted 08/13/2010 10:16 PM

    jeff pendergraph can take miami by himself, just sayin'
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/14/2010 12:52 AM

    isn't amundson a free agent...?  or is he a restricted free agent?...
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 08/15/2010 1:17 AM

    I think that Ellis would love just being on a playoff team.  Now with David Lee and Stephon Curry being 20+ ppg scorers next year, I don't see the difference of having to play with them compared to Roy and Aldridge.  We have the best defensive team in the league right now, so I think our main worry should be offense.  Looking at how little the Warriors got for Jackson in a trade last year, I don't think that we'd have to give up any of our four main pieces (Roy, Batum, Aldridge, Oden).  He also seems the most likely to be traded with Steph Curry there now.  A trade of Fernandez/Bayless/EW or 1st round pick would solve the point guard situation, having to many players at one position, but it would also make our bench better, having Miller in with Camby and Matthews.  Losing our first round pick wouldn't be too bad, as it looks like if we keep Andre that we'll draft a point guard in the draft two years from now.
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  1. TJ31
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    Posted 08/15/2010 1:34 AM

    Plus, we can't worry about contracts (Ellis is being paid $11M) as we're $15M over the cap.  Even with expiring contracts in Camby, Pryz, and Miller, the $8 Million we'd be over would be spent on extensions for Batum and Oden.
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  1. cransford24
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    Posted 08/15/2010 4:24 PM

    I like ellis and think he would probably help the blazers more than miller would but there are some very big problems with him going to the blazers.  He isnt really that good when he doesnt have the ball so that would be a problem since brandon is the same way where he likes to work with the ball.  If ellis does end up coming here than either him or roy would have to learn how to work off screens and play off the ball a little better.  Also if he comes here he would have to be willing to give up some of his touches and some of his points to brandon and lamarcus. 
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  1. cransford24
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    Posted 08/15/2010 4:35 PM

    also hes more of a combo gaurd an i think what the blazers really need is a pure point gaurd that is a great shooter, can pass very well, and can at least play average defense.  That type of player would compliment b roy best since when hes doubled he can kick it out to the pg for the 3 kind of like what kobe does to fisher.  also a pg like i described would be able to get the ball to feed the ball to oden and aldridge in the post very well since he would be a good passer.  the only player on this discussion that has been mentioned that would fit that would be mike conley, but other gaurds who could do stuff like that would be jonny flynn, cp3, jameer nelson and steph curry
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  1. rasheedfan2005
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    Posted 08/15/2010 7:10 PM

    fisher actually would have been a good pick up for us but i have a feeling our entire state would go into a riot :)
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/15/2010 11:07 PM

    mo williams.
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  1. BDawg
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    Posted 08/19/2010 8:21 PM

    No williams...overrated and a cancer in the lockerroom. 
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  1. cransford24
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    Posted 08/19/2010 9:56 PM

    Posted By BDawg on 08/19/2010 8:21 PM
    No williams...overrated and a cancer in the lockerroom.

    He is deffinantly overated and plays totaly crappy d.  I havent heard anything about him being a bad locker room guy though
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/19/2010 10:47 PM

    ^^ lies^^ he was a great not good, GREAT compliment to lebron james... what do you think he'd be to roy? more than alright buddy. so what if he isn't the best defensive pg no one ever asked him to be on that team they didn't preach defense they were all about offense like the suns... steve nash never plays d. why don't you people complain about him?  and as far as him being a cancer in the locker room that is total nonsense!!!!!!
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  1. cransford24
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    Posted 08/20/2010 11:27 AM

    I personaly think Nash is extremely overated also.  It is more than just bad luck that neither of them have won a championship.  Defense wins championships, That is why the Lakers and Celtics have won the last three championships, Rondo is a beast on d, and although Fisher is slow he is a reasonably good, scrappy defender.
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  1. cransford24
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    Posted 08/20/2010 11:36 AM

    I bet Williams would get the Blazers more regular season wins since he excells against all of the bad teams, but come playoff time he disapears because the other playoff teams are good enough to know how to defend him.  Also in last years playoffs series against the Celtics He got schooled by Rondo and that was why the cavs lost that series.  He is excelent in the regular season but he is not clutch enough.  But I do agree with you about him probably being a good compliment to Roy offensively.  I think he is exactly what the Blazers need on offense but he is just too crappy of a defender to ever take a team past the conference finals.
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/20/2010 2:25 PM

    no one says he has to start though. he could come off the bench and if he is playing horrible d we all know he'll be subbed in... if we were to get mo williams most likely we would be able to keep andre miller IF WE WANTED TO. i'm sorry but he is experienced enough to learn from his mistakes in the past and could be alot more effective in the west
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 08/20/2010 5:17 PM

    Posted By cransford24 on 08/20/2010 11:36 AM
    I bet Williams would get the Blazers more regular season wins since he excells against all of the bad teams, but come playoff time he disapears because the other playoff teams are good enough to know how to defend him.  Also in last years playoffs series against the Celtics He got schooled by Rondo and that was why the cavs lost that series.  He is excelent in the regular season but he is not clutch enough.  But I do agree with you about him probably being a good compliment to Roy offensively.  I think he is exactly what the Blazers need on offense but he is just too crappy of a defender to ever take a team past the conference finals.

    I bet Mo wouldn't help us get more wins in the regular season. He is a whiny little b who never should have made the All Star team. he was way overrated because he played with Lebron. I don't know why we'd want him because he'd make us better in the regular season, but not in the playoffs? I think everyone needs to see how Andre plays with a healthy front line, because Brandon is not our ONLY option on offense. Yes it would be nice to have Andre hit 3's but he is a pretty good passer and he sees the court very well and he gets the offense running better. And he is an iron man! i sure hope we do not go back to a Steve Blake style of offense where Brandon made most of the decisions. Last year when Brandon did that it was clear that Andre was much better at it because Andre makes better passes at the right time where as Brandon is mostly looking to set himself up and if that doesn't work then he passes. I guess I'm not a big fan of Roy running the point too often.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 08/20/2010 5:32 PM

    Posted By cransford24 on 08/20/2010 11:27 AM
    I personaly think Nash is extremely overated also.  It is more than just bad luck that neither of them have won a championship.  Defense wins championships, That is why the Lakers and Celtics have won the last three championships, Rondo is a beast on d, and although Fisher is slow he is a reasonably good, scrappy defender.

    What DECADE ARE YOU IN? The Lakers have close to no defense at all, maybe Gasol, Odom, and Brown on a good day, and the Celtics are not far behind, Rondo, is good on D, but a beast, no. A beast would be like Camby, or Howard. Those teams dont win because of defense, those teams win because of two main reasons. One is teamwork, and a non stop hustle at both ends of the floor, and second, unlike Portland, their starting 5 have a decent amount of playing years in the NBA, take out Miller and you've got Roy, Batum, Aldridge all class of 06, Oden, who doesnt even have 1 full year, i mean thats the biggest setback for this team.
    Acquiring Mo Williams, not only would it give Portland a pare miter shooter, but a guy who can get his teammates involved in a cornucopia of methods
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  1. I''m OUT!
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    Posted 08/20/2010 8:25 PM

    Posted By TayC on 08/20/2010 5:32 PM
    Posted By cransford24 on 08/20/2010 11:27 AM
    I personaly think Nash is extremely overated also.  It is more than just bad luck that neither of them have won a championship.  Defense wins championships, That is why the Lakers and Celtics have won the last three championships, Rondo is a beast on d, and although Fisher is slow he is a reasonably good, scrappy defender.

    What DECADE ARE YOU IN? The Lakers have close to no defense at all, maybe Gasol, Odom, and Brown on a good day, and the Celtics are not far behind, Rondo, is good on D, but a beast, no. A beast would be like Camby, or Howard. Those teams dont win because of defense, those teams win because of two main reasons. One is teamwork, and a non stop hustle at both ends of the floor, and second, unlike Portland, their starting 5 have a decent amount of playing years in the NBA, take out Miller and you've got Roy, Batum, Aldridge all class of 06, Oden, who doesnt even have 1 full year, i mean thats the biggest setback for this team.
    Acquiring Mo Williams, not only would it give Portland a pare miter shooter, but a guy who can get his teammates involved in a cornucopia of methods
    What alternate universe are you in? Defense still wins Championships! I hate the Lakers but they have a really good defensive team. The Celtics have excellent defense (when healthy). The year they won their D was outstanding.
    Also Mo Williams would be a definitive downgrade from Miller!!!!!! Mo is waaayyyyy overrated. Only thing he does better than Andre is shoot 3's more consistent. That is IT! He was sorry playing along with the "best" player in the league, why would he all of a sudden be better here? And he has absolutely no D.
    The more I read your posts the more I wonder about your basketball i.q., and the more I think you are typing on an iPhone. Well at least a cornucopia of your posts I've read. Come think to of it, iPhones are overrated too!!! ha ha
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  1. Blazers4Life247
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    Posted 08/21/2010 12:04 AM

    how is he overated but, he was 1 of the main reasons the cavs had the best record in the league 2 years in a row. yes we all know they lost in the playoffs but to blame it on mo williams is total bs. the offense ran thru lebron in those games and they were simply playing a team who wanted it more and not to mention lebron was hurt, what if he was healthy and things went down different i bet you would be saying mo williams is a great pick up. it comes down to coaching and the coaches were force feeding lebron the ball he barely even passed it back to his teammates. another thing is you cannot judge a player by what he did with only a few years under his belt.. how are u to know, he could be just what the doctor ordered ;]

    i guess u rather have a pg that no one has to cover, just double team the bigs, & keep 2 guys on roy. kuz andre ain't making that shot.  if i had a nickel for every shot andre misses i'd be 1 rich cho lol
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  1. cransford24
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    Posted 08/21/2010 1:57 AM

    Posted By TayC on 08/20/2010 5:32 PM

    What DECADE ARE YOU IN? The Lakers have close to no defense at all, maybe Gasol, Odom, and Brown on a good day, and the Celtics are not far behind, Rondo, is good on D, but a beast, no. A beast would be like Camby, or Howard. Those teams dont win because of defense, those teams win because of two main reasons. One is teamwork, and a non stop hustle at both ends of the floor, and second, unlike Portland, their starting 5 have a decent amount of playing years in the NBA, take out Miller and you've got Roy, Batum, Aldridge all class of 06, Oden, who doesnt even have 1 full year, i mean thats the biggest setback for this team.
    Acquiring Mo Williams, not only would it give Portland a pare miter shooter, but a guy who can get his teammates involved in a cornucopia of methods

    Are you high?  the Lakers are easily a top five defensive team in the league and the celtics the past three years have been arguably the best defensive team of the past decade.  Also the celtics are my least favorite team but I still have to give credit to rondo, if you dont think he is a beast on d than what pg do you think is?  In my opinion he is easily the best deffensive pg in the nba right now.  Also you obviously know very little about basketball outside of the Blazers if you think that Gasol, Odom, and Brown are the Lakers three best defenders.  Ron Artest is the toughest and possibly most underted small forward on d in the nba and is one of the only people in the nba capible of locking down Lebron and Melo, and Kobe is their second best defensive player and when he gets pissed he can lock down just about any wing player.  Also while I like both Gasol and Brown they are two of the weakest defenders on the Lakers.
    I am a fan of the Blazers draft selections. Feels good to finally be able to say that
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    Posted By Blazers4Life247 on 08/21/2010 12:04 AM
    how is he overated but, he was 1 of the main reasons the cavs had the best record in the league 2 years in a row. yes we all know they lost in the playoffs but to blame it on mo williams is total bs. the offense ran thru lebron in those games and they were simply playing a team who wanted it more and not to mention lebron was hurt, what if he was healthy and things went down different i bet you would be saying mo williams is a great pick up. it comes down to coaching and the coaches were force feeding lebron the ball he barely even passed it back to his teammates. another thing is you cannot judge a player by what he did with only a few years under his belt.. how are u to know, he could be just what the doctor ordered ;]

    i guess u rather have a pg that no one has to cover, just double team the bigs, & keep 2 guys on roy. kuz andre ain't making that shot.  if i had a nickel for every shot andre misses i'd be 1 rich cho lol

    I guess you'd rather be narrow minded and think that the only requirement and option for a pg is shooting 3's. 
    And did you watch the playoffs? Mo was a huge reason they lost because he didn't do anything on offense. He didn't do anything on defense either but that's to be expected since he never does that. Yes it sure looked like Lebron gave up, but Mo didn't even show up. He is overrated. It's ridiculous that people think he would be an upgrade to Miller just because of his 3's. Actually Miller shot a higher percentage from the floor than Mo last year. I just feel like we moved 2 steps forward from Steve Blake and if we get Mo we would take one step backwards. Mo Williams doesn't run the offense as well as Miller. His court vision and passing are not as good as Dre's. His defense isn't as good as Dre's. Like i said before, the only thing he does better than Dre is shoot 3's.
    I am a fan of comcast and the blazers making deals that keep screwing us over!! woot!
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    Posted 08/21/2010 9:14 PM

    I dont think Monta Ellis would fit very well... Ellis shouldnt be on that list because he is not a point guard. The only way that would work is if Roy plays point but that would still drop his stats. We need an assist guy for Roy, not somebody who needs the ball to score... best fit is either mo williams or devin harris
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    Posted 08/21/2010 9:53 PM

    ^ thats where your wrong buddy. where have u been? ellis has been a point guard his whole life. the only reason he got moved to sg is because they drafted curry. and of course they were gonna draft curry when he was the best player on the board in their opinion.  and as far as mo goes, it was just a outcome of bad match ups... trust me when i say rondo would make andre look bad as well on any night as he has before and would especially in a heated playoff game. the only reason why andre had a better pct like u say is because all he got was layups all season i might have seen him make 4-5 mid range/long shots all season and they were str8 prayers. the only reason why he is decent at passing is because thats all he can do. most of his career all i see is him like this andre miller has no d thats what u call d? lol... his d is always suspect.
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