Will Roy play the point?
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  1. Crim
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    Posted 07/17/2010 8:58 AM

    Roy wants the ball in his hands, yet I understand we have a lot of talented PG's, so will we see Roy play the point? Shouldn't he play the point? If we want to ever see Mathews/Roy/Batum on the floor he's going to have to play the point right? Maybe not, Batum is capable of playing the point forward hybrid style popular overseas, and all three on the court with aldridge and a big man with good feet would be chaos for anyone trying to pick and roll us.

    This is what I'd like to see, so here is the type of trade I'd like to see while I'm wishing:

    Send Andre, Bayless, Pryzbilla, and rudy to a team for a strong 3 that can come off the bench or fight Batum for minutes at the three. Mavericks need to shake up their roster, would Butler come off the bench if he were given a fair opportunity in practice to fight Batum for minutes? Or can we trade for future draft picks and hope Batum can bulk up and guard people the likes of Lebron, and other bulky 3's?
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 07/17/2010 10:09 AM

    We go through this like every year. Roy is not a point guard, but he does run the point from time to time. However when he does have the ball in his hands it's usually through an isolation play that draws defenders to look at him which he makes the reads to create the play that makes the points. He is not a PG. Like KP said a few years ago, "Is Dwayne Wade a PG?"

    Also, with your trade proposal. Why waste 14 million to bring in a SF like Caron Butler? Wesley Matthews will give him enough competition for the small forward spot, and I don't think Caron would want to come off the bench when he's in the prime of his career.
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  1. Crim
    Posts: 398

    Posted 07/17/2010 10:28 AM

    Late in the game you want your best players in the game, same in the playoffs. Your going to want Mathews, Batum, and Roy on the floor with Aldridge and whatever healthy big man we have that's playing his best game. With a team like that on the floor any team would have difficulty scoring on us. Why is it unthinkable to have Roy at the PG spot, at least offensively, defensively you could have any number of matchups to throw at the opponent having those three on the floor together. Obviously with what we have this wouldn't make sense to start the game out with, we have some good pg's so we should use them. Going to be interesting to see what the team looks like after training camp.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 07/17/2010 11:03 AM

    I agree with you where you have your best five on the floor to close games. But at this point I think our best five is our starting five with Miller Roy Batum Aldridge and Oden. If you are going to trade Miller you pack him with Pryzbilla to bring in an upgrade at the point guard spot if you can.
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  1. formalityjoey
    Posts: 38

    Posted 07/17/2010 2:06 PM

    I think the addition of Wes Matthews is a beautiful thing. Rudy and Webster were pretty decent on offense. Rudy was pretty bad on defense. Webster was okay defensively but if you put webster on an elite guard like a dwayne wade for example, webster would get out muscled. The addition of matthews gives us a lock down guy that's just as quick as webster, but much stronger and can stand his ground. In addition to that, he doesn't just settle for jumpers all the time, like Rudy. He has a good mix of drives and jumpers, and when he drives he's definitely not afraid of contact. In fact, i think he likes contact and likes to go to the line. It's a part of his game.

    So IMO, the beauty of having our new addition is that you have the luxury of mixing up your lineups depending on what the game situation is. If it's late in a game, we're up by two and kobe has the ball, put in a lineup like, Roy, matthews, batum, aldridge, oden. I group that is very capable of scoring, capable of knocking down a three if needed, but also a group that has no glaring weaknesses on defense.

    The other situation, for example; we're up by 10 and there's about 4 minutes left in the game. Andre has a high bball IQ, and will make the right decisions to control the game and tempo, and maintain the lead. He knows when to push it or slow it down.

    7 seconds left in the 4th, down by three: Roy, Matthews, Batum, Babbitt, Bayless

    I guess you don't want Roy running the point much bc off the ball he has a lot more options. But BRoy running the point for short periods of time is definitely okay. Just depends on the situation.

    A team that can adapt to numerous game situations is a team that can make a deep run in the playoffs. YAY
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 07/17/2010 7:05 PM

    Roy has proven we can trust him wherever he is on the court.  He will also always play at his pace. The newbies need to learn to get in where they fit in with the team.  Whoever is left when the season starts.
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  1. wazz1976
    Posts: 14

    Posted 07/18/2010 1:16 PM

    The only time we will need Brandon to play the point, is when Chris Paul & Pat Mills are both on the bench.
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  1. TayC
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    Posted 07/18/2010 9:30 PM

    The back court for the Blazers is way too stacked to be talking about looking for a PG upgrade, we need to work with the guys we have, we NEED to make them better, Bayless is a great combo guard and at 6'3 thats a decent size for a guard, and if needed be a SG in the right size matchup against another SG say for instance Willie Green of 76ers( only guy i could think of, sorry bad example.) But if Miller deccides to stick around hes great at finishing at the hoop, decent mid range. In my opinion all of our PG's need to be involved in becoming 3pt assassins, as i have mentioned before in a previous thread. If thay can train with Jerryd and work him into a traingle offense type players, wow, the skys the limit at that point. As for Roy at the point, thats a big dude, so dont expect him to run into any trouble 1 on 1, but with Webster gone i dont see any 1 player solid enough to handle that number 2 pos, its almost like Roy is too good for PG.
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  1. xvillainx_1
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    Posted 07/19/2010 4:04 AM

    isn't wes matthews 6'5?....how is he gonna play the 3?....i don't see why brandon roy couldn't play the 1...he touches the ball every offensive possession anyway...
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  1. Crim
    Posts: 398

    Posted 07/19/2010 3:12 PM

    from Casey's Q & A with Brandon:

    What do you think of the signing of Wesley Matthews?

    Roy: "I think he's going to help our team. I was a little concerned with losing Martell and not bringing Travis back. I was like 'We're getting thin on that wing.' Getting Wes -- he wants to be called Wesley -- getting Wesley was huge. That was somebody I was looking forward to playing against for the rest of my career and now he's my teammate. I'm excited about it. He's kind of like in that mold of Nicolas; they do whatever it takes to help the team win. Defend, he can score, knock down the shot. There's a number of things I'm going to talk to coach about in putting me in different postions so that way we can go bigger and put maybe Nicolas and Welsey out there together. It should be fun."

    Maybe have you run a little more point?

    Roy: "Yeah. I hope so. Like I said, I'm working a lot off the ball, but my strength is playing with that basketball and I'm trying to make sure I get even better at it."
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  1. t bone
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    Posted 07/19/2010 11:35 PM

    If Brandon is willing to play the point then we already have the best complement in Bayless.  Brandon can play the point on offense but would have trouble defending smaller quicker PGs.  Bayless plays the SG position with size and speed of a PG.  So the ideal scenario is Brandon playing the point on Offense and Jarred defending the point.

    Both guards can handle the ball, create their own shot, play defense, and Jarred is much less of a liability with the 24 second clock winding down.

    The problem is I don't see Brandon wanting to play the point for 4 quarters.
  1. Crim
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    Posted 07/23/2010 8:14 AM

    If Roy played the point on the floor as the same time as wesley and Nic, Nic and Wesley would always take the tougher 2 and Roy would save his energy on the third guard or small forward. All three can play well against all three of those positions, which is why with healthy big men we'd be a night mare for teams that try to pick and roll us, we could switch on practically anyone on the perimeter, add that with shot blockers coming over the top if they get past the back court.
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  1. DDL_12
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    Posted 07/23/2010 8:47 AM

    balyess isnt a good compliment to roy like u think t bone. he cant shoot and he turns it over to much. bayless is garbage, hes not smooth at all.
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  1. voytenkoviktor
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    Posted 07/23/2010 8:52 AM

    Roy CAN play the point but its not going to happen he will only play it in the 4th quarter or crunch time. UNLESS WE HAVE PAUL :D    Vik <<<<<< crosses fingers
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