What do you think we should do this off-season?
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 05/30/2010 9:49 PM

    What moves do you think we will make or should make? Where do we need improvement? Is Bayless really our PG of the future? IS Aldridge really that good? IS there an upgrade we can get? What to do with our new center log jam? Just spill your thoughts.
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  1. kenny c.
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    Posted 05/31/2010 12:50 AM

    The one thing we can do, and this is if you believe in the spiritual world, is pray to the basketball angels to put a ring of angels around Oden's knees. Does anyone know his progress? If oden is healthy our team is pretty solid. It just needs to be able to get into a healthy groove together. I can't wait to see miller and Oden play together. I think miller will get Oden more touches than either blake or Roy. It seemed that those two were a little hesitant to give him the ball unless it was a sure wide open dunk. You know I think that L.A. is good so we'll leave it at that. Miller, roy, LA, oden/camby, batum starting five- healthy, matured, and more weather tested. This starting five shouldn't be tampered with. The only question in my mind is ODEN-come on man, get better-please!!!!!
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 05/31/2010 10:19 AM

    I'd like to see us use our draft pick on someone who can help out now, esp off of the bench. I definitely felt the bench, after the Feb. trade, really dropped off. Use the MLE on one of the many shooters available. That's about it. We have a really good team with minimal needs. If we can stay healthy, we should definitely advance past the 1st round next year.
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  1. BR7_Fan
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    Posted 05/31/2010 11:47 AM

    I think developing younger talent via the draft is beyond us right now, a 4 year player with a developed skill set that is NBA ready (probably either a PG or PF) is the way to go. Other than the big names, there are some nice players available in free agency this year that would fit well on our bench. New players to the team now know their roles, so not too much is needed I think just staying healthy this next season is our biggest hurtle.

    Needs: Backup PG, Low post/rebounding backup PF

    Expendable players (via You be the GM): Diener, Fernandez, (possible: Aldridge, Przybilla, Mills, Webester)

    Overseas bullpen: Freeland, Kopponen, Claver

    Players of intrest via Draft (#22, #44 via mock drafts): PF/C Larry Sanders, C/PF Kevin Seraphin (France), PG/SG Armon Johnson, PF Jarvis Vernando, PF Trevor Booker (I'd like to see us trade up for a more legit player: Udoh, Monroe, Aldrich type player)

    Players of intrest via Free Agency: Ray Allen, Anthony Carter, J.J. Bearea(?) T.J. Ford (?) 

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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/01/2010 10:39 AM

    I dont know if it's possible,( if MrBlazer would tell me if this will work salary wise, I would appreciate it) 
     2 things that COULD have made a difference in the Phoenix series:
     a scorer off the bench (Travis ) and another option at guard ( Blake ) , with Rudy being a funk.  Blake can play pg, and use Bayless at the 2.  
    I'm not a fan of bringing in another rookie  to learn Nates system, and I think Dante needs more minutes, he rebounds !
    Imo, it would be a smart move, I know they had to go to get Camby, but why not bring them back ?
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 06/01/2010 10:42 AM

    Yeah we are definitely beyond developing young players. The only people we should be developing are Penderbeast, Cunningham and Bayless...given they don't get traded away.

    What I think we should try to improve at is the back-up PF position. Whether that be giving Cunningham more minutes here or finding someone to play this position.

    Possible players:
    Travis Outlaw: Thought I'm not a fan of him and would rather have Cunningham as the back up, I can't just bypass that he is a versatile 3/4 who can provide scoring off the bench..though inconsistent and by what he showed in 08-09 playoffs he can't do it when it really counts. Which is in the playoffs.

    Hakim Warrick, Drew Gooden, Josh Powell, Udonis Haslem, Al Harrington, Amir Johnson: Out of these Al Harrington is the least likely and frankly I'll pass on him. Everyone else is a toss up. Udonis Haslem and Amir Johnson are the ones who stand out to me the most. Johnson scraps for rebounds (and we definitely need that from the bench) and Haslem is just a solid PF who can do what his positions warrants effectively.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/01/2010 1:16 PM

    I would be hesitant to shun away from the young talent. The early 90's Blazers teams thought they were beyond that as well and when guys like Buck, Duck, and Jerome started to decline we had no one else to take the torch from those guys, so always keep that in the back of your mind. Its always good to have an influx on talent.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/01/2010 1:46 PM

    My personal opinion is trading a draft pick out a year isnt going to hurt the team at this point. We have a few years before they will be over the hill. Since we have yet to see the entire team healthy a full season, I would like to see what happens before I add another rookie development project started.
    I like the team as it is, after cutting Mills and Junior, bring Blake back as the back up pg. 
    Bayless can always back up Roy if Rudy is still in a funk.  That may be to simple of an answer though.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 06/01/2010 1:57 PM

    My offseason-

    Get rid of Rudy ASAP. Trade him to the Wolves for #16.
    Trade #16 +#23 to Indiana for #10 and then target whichever prospect has fallen (ie: Paul Pierce in 98)
    Let Diener walk
    Re-sign Howard to a player/coach type role
    Use the mid level exception on Mike Miller or Kyle Korver
    Wait till the trade deadline to move Joel's contract
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  1. shylongviewguy
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    Posted 06/01/2010 2:26 PM

    I agree, Rudy needs to step up his game BIG time or get walkin. VERY disapointing in the playoffs. Silver medal or not, this is the nba, it's a different game, and he's had time to adjust, time to start producing, and missed 3 point shots isn't what were lookin for Rudy. CANBY is an absolute priority to keep. He comes in with energy, heart, defense, rebounding and leadership, WE NEED THIS!!. Lamarcus... you need to rise to the pressure thats been put on you. REBOUNDING!!! would be a nice start. Throw in some defense too.  I don't think theres any pieces to the puzzle we need to add, just work on what we have. Martel has not impressed me in the least, and howard was disappointing to say the least. I think pendegraph and cunningham are both gonna be ok. Cut howard, webster and rudy if you have to, were not losin much with him, except turnovers. My fav lineup= Brandon, bayless, lamarcus, canby and batum. Batum- stop camping on the perimiter, if the shots not falling you getta get tough and go inside. Somthing we all wanted to see more of during the playoffs- rebounding on both ends, defense, SCREENS, alarming how few screens were used. STOP the 3 point shots, get inside and get to the free throw line if need be. HEART folks, didn't see any HEART in the playoffs. Lets learn from the mistakes, and make it happen this comming year. Greg, I'm not givin up on you man, I think he can learn alot from canby, and Joel is tough as nails. Keep our bigs!! Have a great offseason, good luck next year guys!
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  1. Kropf
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    Posted 06/01/2010 4:09 PM

    i really believe we should trade rudy maybe in the draft for a better pick. fan favorite but you gotta produce in this league.
    i think we should trade up and pick up hassan whiteside. big time block shots raw offensive game but could be a solid backup once camby retires. also if possible draft dominique Jones. Jr smith type player without the attitude. he can bring a big spark to that bench in the 2 guard position and can handle the ball. hedoesnt need a couple minutes to get going like jaybay.
    Joel needs to go unfortunately. who knows when he'll come back and then if he can even play the same as he did.

    don't know what will go down but i love the offseason and what KP can do.
    I am a fan of proving those damn ESPN analysts wrong next year..
  1. Bertram
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    Posted 06/02/2010 2:49 AM

    Alright, this is what I don't understand. Taking Blake back does not make sense at all. First of all, Bayless needs more minutes not the same. He was the third best player in the playoffs this year. He really stepped up his game..unlike some other fan favorites. Secondly, it was near obvious that Miller and Blake sharing minutes did not work out very well...and really it still wont. With Bayless on the bench getting minutes at the 1/2 spots, you don't lose anything. Bayless has shown he can get 3-5 assist like Blake does, match his assist:to and wreak havoc on the opposing defense. Give the man minutes he deserves without him having to worry about his role. Last but not least, Blake will get better offers contract wise from other teams than with us. He is a good 3 pt shooting point guard. But frankly his court vision is really not all that good. He doesn't make defenses pay other than his 3 pt shooting, you don't really have to worry about him penetrating, or him forcing the ball into the paint via passing. He's a one dimensional player. Unlike Bayless, who is multi-faceted and has the potential to do more and will do more.

    So no Blake. Good guy, but not the player who will take us to the next level.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/02/2010 9:10 AM

    Posted By Kropf on 06/01/2010 4:09 PM
    i really believe we should trade rudy maybe in the draft for a better pick. fan favorite but you gotta produce in this league.
    i think we should trade up and pick up hassan whiteside. big time block shots raw offensive game but could be a solid backup once camby retires. also if possible draft dominique Jones. Jr smith type player without the attitude. he can bring a big spark to that bench in the 2 guard position and can handle the ball. hedoesnt need a couple minutes to get going like jaybay.
    Joel needs to go unfortunately. who knows when he'll come back and then if he can even play the same as he did.

    don't know what will go down but i love the offseason and what KP can do.
    I like your thinking. This is a tremendous year for PF/C prospects and with our only healthy center being a 36 year old man, I think it would be wise to look into some of these big prospects. Even if they take time to develop, they could be ready for action once Camby is ready to hang them up. We wouldn't be having this conversation with a healthy Oden or Joel, but both players are susceptible to the injury bug and it's always good to cover your bases, sometimes twice in this situation.

    I too like Dominique Jones and think he could slip into the 2nd round, which would be a mammoth steal!
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/02/2010 10:57 AM

    To me bringing Blake back and using Bayless at the back up 2 makes  more sense than adding another rookie. Especially with Rudy being a question mark next season. The Miller/Blake issue is old news, and it didnt just involve the 2 of them.
    Injuries happen, and for insurance purposes at guard, Blake may not be flashy, but he gets the job done, and can hit 3's.
      I'd rather see Bayless used more at the 2 and not run Roy into the ground with so many minutes next season.
    Same with Dante backing up LA.
    We are NOT a lottery team anymore. The past drafts were a blast, but we don't need a major move to improve this team to put them over the top anymore. A small move could do the job. These guys are in their 20's, I'm not concerned about restocking the team yet.
    Time for KP to shock the world again, and not make a major deal ?  I would be fine with that.

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  1. BR7_Fan
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    Posted 06/02/2010 11:12 AM

    I think ALL our bigs are susceptible to injury/missing games, i'm not putting down money that Camby plays all 82 games...(79 is the closet he got in 07-08) If Oden can give the team close to 60 games this next season I can live with that. 

    We should be able to pick up a nice rookie big man thats NBA ready weither it be a mid lottery pick, or a late first/second round steal. 

    ...For the Blake/Outlaw discussion: I did miss Outlaw this playoff series, won't lie there if I had to pick one guy to bring back it would be him just to have that somewhat consistant scoring off the bench and he can create his own shot. Bayless proved to me this post-season he wants to take that next step cause he was pretty solid, I also think he brings more to the court than Blake does and keeps an attacking guard on the court at all times. I still think the team does need a legit PG to back up Miller, just not sure who's going to fit. 
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/02/2010 12:54 PM

    Imo, it isnt a matter of " if " Oden/Pryz/Camby get injured/foul trouble anymore, its " when".
     Don't forget in all the hype about draft day in Blazer land, we still have  Pendergraph who would benefit from regular minutes.
    As much as I would like to see Travis back, Dante needs minutes too, and has the potential to be a scorer. I personally don't think there is anything Dante cant do.
    Blake is still my answer on who is the other pg who will fit in.  Nate trusts him,(again not saying he starts ) He will fill the role, and if my opinion of him is correct, would like to be back in Portland with his family, more than he wants star status and a big contract.
    As close as the team is to a championship run with everyone healthy, do we really want to break in a new guard at this point? I don't. But we'll see what happens.



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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/02/2010 12:59 PM

    If Bayless gets his 3pt % up to around 40% which he did in the postseason, he negates bringing Blake back, because that was Blake's bread and butter, was his spot up shooting. I'd rather see the MLE money spent elsewhere, such as scoring wing player off of the bench, similar to Jason Terry, Jamal Crawford, and Travis Outlaw.
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  1. Kropf
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    Posted 06/02/2010 2:54 PM

    what most people seem to be stuck on is bringing in another guard. while this could help like others say it is bayless' turn to run. maybe bring in another vet who wont play but could teach jaybay but really there is no point. between roy, andre, and jaybay we probly couldnt get a better group sharing pg duties. i think we need a shooter who bayless can kick it out to. similar to blake but maybe a bigger more formal 2 guard
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 06/02/2010 3:43 PM

    Bringing Blake back for a THIRD time is just a bit much. I'm sure he and his family are tired of moving and want to settle down.

    Back to the roster. Sign a 3 point shooter at the SF spot whether it be Morrow, Korver, or Mike Miller
    Use Rudy and #22 to move up in the draft and take a project big man like Motiejunas or Whiteside

    PG-Miller,Bayless,Mills
    SG-Roy,Webster
    SF-Batum,(Free agent 3 pt shooter)
    PF- Aldridge,Cunningham, Howard (limited role, only in emergencies)
    C-Oden, Camby, (Project big man)

    And we'd still have Joel who we can use to trade at the trading deadline, since he won't be ready to play till the beginning of 2011 anyways.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/02/2010 4:12 PM

    Imo,  Mills wont be back, and Rudy or Joel wont be traded anytime soon. 
    I'm pretty sure the Blakes keep a house in Portland, and from everything I have ever read, they call Portland home. If it wasn't for needing Camby, I'm sure Blake would still be here.
    But, I have no objection to Jamal Crawford or Travis either.
     Blake is to simple of an answer to fans who are expecting more huge draft day moves to accept.

     

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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 06/05/2010 12:40 PM

    The line-up I'm imagining being built:

    PG: Miller, Bayless
    SG: Roy, Bayless, Webster
    SF: Batum, Webster
    PF: Aldridge, Cunningham(?)
    C: The Log jam

    Bayless can see minutes at both guard spots and webster can see time at 2 and 3..but we can also add a 3 or a 2 this year. And the PF slot needs improvement, either Dante improves or by trade.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 06/08/2010 10:59 AM

    Posted By Bertram on 06/05/2010 12:40 PM
    The line-up I'm imagining being built:

    PG: Miller, Bayless
    SG: Roy, Bayless, Webster
    SF: Batum, Webster
    PF: Aldridge, Cunningham(?)
    C: The Log jam

    Bayless can see minutes at both guard spots and webster can see time at 2 and 3..but we can also add a 3 or a 2 this year. And the PF slot needs improvement, either Dante improves or by trade.

    Where's Rudy, our draft pick, and possible free agent in that depth chart?
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/08/2010 6:28 PM

    My choice :
    1 Miller/Blake/ Bayless/Roy
    2 Roy/Bayless/Fernandez/Webster
    3 Batum/Webster/ Cunningham
    4 LA/Cunningham/Camby/Pendergraph
    5 Camby/Oden/Pryz/ Pendergraph

     I will leave it up to the brain trust on who the 14th player will be,  but I'd start the season with a 14 man roster until we see what shakes loose this summer in free agency, and what we need to adjust.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 06/08/2010 10:29 PM

    Like I said, we can add a SG or SF who can bring energy and CONSISTENCY to our bench. Rudy isn't included in that. We can add through, free agency or I suppose draft.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/09/2010 10:08 AM

    I would add a pg,( but not a rookie). Imo, Bayless is better at the 2 offensively , switch on defense and put him on the ball.
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/09/2010 12:17 PM

    Posted By Kim on 06/08/2010 6:28 PM
    My choice :
    1 Miller/Blake/ Bayless/Roy
    2 Roy/Bayless/Fernandez/Webster
    3 Batum/Webster/ Cunningham
    4 LA/Cunningham/Camby/Pendergraph
    5 Camby/Oden/Pryz/ Pendergraph

     I will leave it up to the brain trust on who the 14th player will be,  but I'd start the season with a 14 man roster until we see what shakes loose this summer in free agency, and what we need to adjust.


    I think that is just too much talent for one team to have. Although we needed every bit of our depth this year, it was a once in a blue moon type of occurrence. By having too many good players, playing time gets divided up amongst them and makes it difficult for players to play freely, get into a rhythm, and they will always be looking over their shoulder to the bench if they make a mistake. I think lost in the 50 wins during the season of injuries was how rough of a start we had to start the season. Too many players, not enough time. Rudy is too good to be a 3rd stringer..Blake and Miller each need more minutes than they would get sharing the spot..and as we saw in the playoffs, Bayless needs minutes to produce to and I don't think he'd get that solely playing behind Brandon.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/09/2010 6:55 PM

    Too many good players ??
    So should we trade Rudy for a bad player ? Where is a new player going to find minutes ??

    I see depth for years,and lineups to drive scouts crazy. Thank you KP ! 
     Nate has already done an excellent job in putting lineups together. Why would that change?
    I for one count Oden as half a player. Pryz may need time. But the most important thing, is that Roy and LA play TO MANY MINUTES in the regular season . None of us want an injured Roy or LA come playoff time again.

    Get in where you fit in, and if you wants rings, hang around, it's just getting started.  

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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 06/09/2010 9:43 PM

    Too many good players is a gift and a curse. DHawes22 strikes a very good point about playing time. You can pick just about anyone on our roster and they would get solid minutes on any team. We can go 1 of 2 ways, either trade 2 assets for 1 good one plus a project or stay-put.

    I'm thinking we are packaging Rudy Fernandez+someone or something for a solid role player.
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  1. Travis
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    Posted 06/10/2010 2:01 AM

    I honestly agree with a lot of what has been said the main thing is consolidating. I think this year should be make it or break it for our players. We need to thrust Batum into some offensive sets and let him score. Give Bayless the Rains more and see what he has. Oden do what you do for atleast 60 games and be ready for playoffs. I think we need to package some smaller assets to go up in draft and get Cola Aldrich. We can use Webster Pendergraph or Rudy. There are a few other bigs that play 4/5 if needed that are further up in draft. The move seems fairly easy and there has to be a team wanting to small cheap pieces. They would of course get our pick also which is not that bad.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/10/2010 9:44 AM

    I have no problem with trading Rudy, Martell or Jeff  if it lands us Aldrich, since Camby is over 30. 

    I just don't understand  we have too many good players, so we need to trade them for another one ?

    What's up with Kopponen ??  It may be a good year to bring him over to learn since Dre is over 30 too, from what I remember he has good size. Last I heard he fractured his foot ?? 


    I just want to see the team healthy for a season, before we break it all up.

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  1. DHawes22
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    Posted 06/10/2010 11:25 AM

    Posted By Kim on 06/09/2010 6:55 PM

    Too many good players ??
    So should we trade Rudy for a bad player ? Where is a new player going to find minutes ??

    I see depth for years,and lineups to drive scouts crazy. Thank you KP ! 
     Nate has already done an excellent job in putting lineups together. Why would that change?
    I for one count Oden as half a player. Pryz may need time. But the most important thing, is that Roy and LA play TO MANY MINUTES in the regular season . None of us want an injured Roy or LA come playoff time again.

    Get in where you fit in, and if you wants rings, hang around, it's just getting started.  


    Not a straight one for one swap. I was envisioning something similar to what we did in 1999 where we dealt 6 guys for Pippen. Now, I'm not saying trade away 6 again, but if we can consolidate and get a great 8-man rotation (which is what is used in the playoffs anyway), we will be set.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/10/2010 1:01 PM

    I guess I am going to have to agree to disagree on the too much talent.  Seems to me that it is trading one bench player for another, with the new player not being familiar with the system. We have to get to the playoffs before we worry about that rotation. It's a long season, and injuries happen. Roy and LA play too many minutes in the regular season imo. I'd like to see Jerryd take some of Roys minutes and Dante take some of LA's to progress their game.
    Miller and Camby will not be here forever, so I can see adding their replacements now to ride the inactive list, and learn. But I'm still not feeling big draft day moves this season. I want to see how the free agent frenzy plays out. We are not desperate to add players at this point, or needing to rebuild.
    I don't see the need to rush just because we have been so active on drafts in the past.
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  1. BR7_Fan
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    Posted 06/10/2010 2:31 PM

    I'm all about seeing the team we have right now, healthy and see what they can do before any major changes...not sure if that will happen.  I think the starting line-up is set for the most part (5 spot is sort of a ?) More defined roles for our bench will help, who's going to be that solid #6 and #7 player off the bench that Nate can count on every night to run and be that 2nd Unit...Rudy? Bayless? Webster? All of them had chances to step up and all had mixed results I think Bayless is in the lead right now but who knows.

    I agree with Hawes that if we can consolidate talent for a better rotation we should go ahead and do that. Won't be too many excuses for this team next season to be a legit contender in the west considering what they did with a make-shift team this season.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 06/10/2010 3:37 PM

    I just want to see us try to get better. Yes winning 50 games with all the injuries is great and all, but when the dust settles, we still got ousted in the first round and, before any major injuries, we had a hard time getting it all to work (anyone else remember that horrid Oct/Nov?)

    I wouldn't mess with the core unless Bosh or Amare is involved, but those are not realistic options, so I am a firm believer in upgrading the bench without messing up chemistry/core.

    Pretty much keep these players for next year:
    Brandon
    LaMarcus
    Nicolas
    Jerryd
    Marcus
    Andre
    Greg

    Those 7 stay and do whatever it takes using (Dante, Jeff, Martell, Rudy, #22, Joel, Overseas assets) to obtain another great rotational player.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 06/10/2010 3:57 PM

    Agreed, we don't mess with the core unless it's a deal you just can't refuse. (Bosh, Brook, Josh Smith etc.)

    These are the people we build around:
    Roy, Aldridge, Batum, Oden, Bayless and Miller.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/10/2010 4:56 PM

    I would not trade Joel or Dante for anyone available, but it's not the fans opinions that matter.
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  1. Kim~
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    Posted 06/10/2010 8:21 PM

    Also looks to me like Boston is playing more than an 8 man rotation in the playoffs. Depth can be a blessing.
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  1. Bertram
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    Posted 06/11/2010 12:29 AM

    They have ready players at their disposal. Ones who have been in the league for a good amount of time. We don't have that, but we do have depth POTENTIAL. Big difference, when you have people in your bench who haven't been in the league for very long and want to go out and prove something, versus players who know their role on the team. Chemistry wise it's important.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posted 06/11/2010 11:48 AM

    Posted By Kim on 06/10/2010 4:56 PM
    I would not trade Joel or Dante for anyone available, but it's not the fans opinions that matter.
    We all love Joel. He's a big, blue-collar, hard working player who does all the little things a team needs to win. He was an integral piece to bringing the Blazers back into prominence. It was he who showed a lot of loyalty by re-signing with the worst team in the league with offers from powerhouses Detroit and San Antonio on the table back in 2005. For that, I thank him. But, its not his play that makes him available on the market. It's his back to back torn patella tendons. One injury alone is devastating, but two? I don't think he ever sees the court again in a Trail Blazers uniform.

    Take a look at all of these players who have had the same injury and how fast their careers derailed-
    Torn or partially torn patellar tendon: A much more severe injury.

    SF Cedric Ceballos, 1996-97, age 27, Lakers/Suns

    Partial tear of the right patellar tendon in November 1996, expected to be out 2 months. He got reactivated in January, but it continued to bother him throughout the season missing several more games with a strained patella in March after a trade to the Suns. He continued to have s ome problems with his right knee (meniscus) and especially his wrists over the following years. Some drop in production, though he did have another strong season with the Mavericks in 1999-00.



    PF Antonio McDyess, 2001-2003, age 27-29, Nuggets: Several fractures and tears

    Subluxated left patella in March 2001 (partial/incomplete dislocation). Missed remainder of the season.

    Initially there was no surgery, then in October 2001 he required surgery to repair what was then diagnosed as a partially torn patellar tendon. In addition he needed arthroscopic surgery on the right knee to clean out some loose debris and was expected to be out 3-4 months. In March 2002 he briefly got activated, but was deactivated quickly again when both knees got inflamed.

    Next season: Joining the Knicks that offseason, he was immediately placed on the injured list with a "left knee inflammation", and then in October required another surgery to repair a fracture to the left patella. In April 2003 he needed yet another surgery on the left knee patella missing the entire 2002-03 season.

    When finally returning to action, he played in 42 games in 2003-04 season. Then continued to play several seasons completely or close to. His statistics dropped significantly across the board before going up slightly again but never back to previous state. However as of now he is still active as a rotation player.



    SF Glen Rice, 2001-02, age 34, Rockets

    Partial tear in December required surgery on right knee a month later, out for the remainder of the season.

    Next season: Appeared in 62 games, but he continued to have some problems with the right knee (strain, hyperextension, bruise). His stats dropped slightly, and at age 36 he was reaching his career end the following season where he appeared in his last 18 games.



    PG Damon Stoudemire, 2005-06, age 32, Grizzlies

    Surgery on torn right patellar tendon in January 2006 after injuring it just before the end of the year, out for remainder of the season.

    He already had suffered from what was deemed 'left knee tendinitis' a decade earlier when on the Raptors missing the end of the 1995-96 season without going into detail which tendon. While with the Blazers he missed much of November with 2001 right knee tendinitis.

    Next season: Played in 62 games. Stats dropped to level from a few years earlier while about maintaining efficiency. Career end after 2007-08 season where he played in another 60 games.



    C Alonzo Mourning, 2007, age 37, Heat

    Surgery on right knee to repair torn patellar tendon after 25 games, out for remainder of the season.

    Update: He had already sustained a partial tear in the left knee in 1997 pausing for ca. 3 months (initial diagnosis was 8 to 12 weeks), and missed a few games in December 2004 with 'right knee tendinitis'.

    Next season: Ended career



    SG Kelenna Azubuike, 2009, age 26, Warriors

    Torn patellar tendon in left knee after having appeared in 9 games, out for the season. In the video of the injury it looked like someone had beaten him out of mid-air with a bat when he tried to go up on a drive to the basket.

    The fact insurance will pick up 80% of his contract if he misses half the season (which is looks very likely that it will happen) and that he is an expiring contract, makes him VERY valuable to teams looking to shred cap room.
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  1. Kim~
    Kim~
    Posts: 1137

    Posted 06/11/2010 3:08 PM

    RLEC was supposed to be a big trading piece too. Maybe the Blazers want to hold on to that $. We'll see what happens :)
    I am a fan of scrapping !
  1. Ricky
    Ricky
    Posts: 540

    Posted 06/11/2010 5:30 PM

    I like the idea of using the MLE to get someone like Mike Miller, then trade Rudy and #22 to move down in the draft and take the best project center or PF.  I am not sure of any other moves.  I do like Xavier Henry, and James Anderson and they would definitely be used to back up Roy which seemed to be a real flaw during the playoffs.
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  1. Kim~
    Kim~
    Posts: 1137

    Posted 06/12/2010 11:24 AM

     The Blazers are no longer in rebuild mode through the draft mode. They are at tighten the wheels and let's roll with everyone healthy, for rings  !!
    The Lakers and Celtics both play more than an 8 man rotation. Neither team has the depth because they start a new rookie project every season. I am not feeling a rookie this season, unless they ride the bench.
    Rudy is a question mark next season. ....
     Another guard could have helped the Blazers with better d and outside shooting to take Phoenix's playoff run. I would add a guard in free agency. Not a rookie, Nate won't play him, unless EVERYONE else is hurt.
    Wouldn't a guard who already knows the system, and both Nate and Brandon trust make sense??
     It does to me, I have always believed our scouting/management team is a year ahead of us fans. What ever they do, is fine. I'm out for a while to clear my head until the draft ;) 

    Go Blazers !!!!
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  1. DHawes22
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    Posts: 6488

    Posted 06/15/2010 8:58 PM

    Posted By Ricky on 06/11/2010 5:30 PM
    I like the idea of using the MLE to get someone like Mike Miller, then trade Rudy and #22 to move down in the draft and take the best project center or PF.  I am not sure of any other moves.  I do like Xavier Henry, and James Anderson and they would definitely be used to back up Roy which seemed to be a real flaw during the playoffs.

    I think Anderson is falling under the radar. I've seen his stock dropping a bit lately, but I think he'd be a great bench player. He's got great size for a 2 guard and was the big 12 player of the year. He's a flat out shooter as well. I think Henry has more potential, but he's rumored to go as high as 8..too rich for my blood.
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  1. ClydeFrog
    ClydeFrog
    Posts: 975

    Posted 06/23/2010 1:49 PM

    Draft day is tomorrow, and it sure doesn't seem like the Trail Blazers are being shy right now. It looks like they know the current group, as constructed isn't good enough to win it all, so they're doing everything imaginable to put this team over the top.
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