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  1. rmontee6175
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    Posted 05/01/2010 10:15 PM

    Ok Blazerfriends--

    As we start into the summer, I am really starting to wonder who is going to stay? Who will go? Whats up with him? You know all those questions we have going on ALL the time!! Lets get started..

    SO anyone know where we really stand with Howard?

    What about Joel? I have heard many different things but have not been able to come up with anything concrete. Anyone know whats up with the "Hardest Working Man in Basketball"?

    Yeah, we signed Camby so that is taken care of for another year but are we watching anyone closely to come work with him?
    I would love to see oden get back into the groove, considering his young career, how much emotional trauma has he been in or through considering the last few years and the extremely limited amount of time? I love the guy, but is he going to WANT to stay?

    I hear a lot of talk about Rudy and Andre - Get rid of them, keep them, trade them, lose one and keep the other.... I dont know about Rudy yet, but I have to give Andre his due props... That guy got us through when there was nobody, and I mean NOBODY the Blazers could really turn to. I know that doesn't say anything for the next year but if Andre wants to play for Portland another year, I say let him! We could do a lot worse, well, we have!!!

    I hear a lot of talk about bringing Blake and Outlaw back!!!
    I was a big fan of Outlaw, I really enjoyed watching him play and I felt that he was really coming into his own before the injury. Some players can bounce back after a major injury, and then there are some players that never get the spark back in the game. Was Travis one of those guys?

    I want to know what everyone else thinks or knows, let me hear it people, where should the team go?

    I am a fan of Being a part of the best fans in the league.
  1. andi
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    Posted 05/02/2010 12:40 AM

    Well - since I don't have a direct pipeline to Pritchard's (Allen's??) head.....  All I can do is offer what "I think", which may be far from what the management thinks.

    Let me qualify this by stating up front - I've lived in JumpTown all my life, through '77, through '90-'91....and yes, through the real dark ages of the "jailblazers".  I have not been this excited about the synergy RipCity has right now - in quite a long time....

    So are my opinions based on the fact that we not only have great players, but great citizens again???  YES.  But I would like to think I can actually contribute an objective point of view based on talent.

    JH?  I hope he stays.  Does he sink tons of buckets?  No.  But when he does - they're big.  Aside from giving this team "a pair" out there from time to time (THANKS!), he is a mentor who appears to truly enjoy passing on his craft to our "up and comings", and doesn't hold his secrets close to his chest.  We need that sort of mentoring, and hopefully.... he'll teach them how to show their teeth too....  Lot's of people (from any profession, not just basketball) start to give up when they get a little.... how should I say this.... "long in the tooth" (no offesnse intended JH!!) - but not Howard, he's just as competitive as ever.

    Andre?  KEEP HIM!!!  Why would we even question it??  'Nuff said.

    Rudy has to follow his own heart - but more importantly - he needs to figure out where his heart is going....  If it's Portland - great, start playing and quit complaining.  If you play hard, the minutes will come.  If it's Spain, I wish him all the best, truly....

    Blake & Outlaw??  Not sure about Travis, didn't see enough after his injury.  Blake?  Not only was he a good ball general and distributor, Stevie was a 4th quarter workhorse who could sink 3's, and it's unfortunate he was traded.  He also showed "strap" when we needed it, and didn't back down (without getting a bunch of T's).

    Joel and Greg....  I'll start with JP.  I sincerely hope he'll return for a role in this team.  His dedication and determination are what sets him above many others.  He knows hard work, and isn't afraid of it.  Besides, he earned the honor of coming back, earned it by getting this team as far as he did before getting injured...  As for GO?  The poor guy has definitely had some bad luck!  I believe he is going to be a force, if he can ever get enough minutes before getting fouled out!  Not sure what he did to the refs in a previous life - but it couldn't have been good!  Maybe if he doesn't even "look" at a ref (???) 

    Nicholas is already starting to show the benefits of having Camby here.  Now if we can just toughen him up a bit....  (JH: get to work on him!).  Batum has all the potential in the world...

    So - that's my story....
    I am a fan of the blazers & a rockin' season!! exciting all the way - thanks guys - all of you!! looking forward to next year!!!!!
  1. BDawg
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    Posts: 1593

    Posted 05/02/2010 3:52 AM

    Hey guys!  Okay...let's first look at the big picture.  I'm sure we can all agree, this team is being built around Brandon Roy.  If the Blazers are to win a championship before his ever-narrowing window closes, they have got some work to do and not much time to do it in.  Looking in the rear view mirror, traditionally, most teams have needed 3-4 years to reach the promiseland known as the NBA Finals.  This team, OUR team, is at least a couple of major pieces shy of having THAT caliber a squad to even BEGIN to make that push.  How much longer does Roy have as the focal point and starter, with his ailing knees and the way his body has been used...being both the initiator and finisher at the offensive end, especially in the fourth quarter(before Dre)?  Bottom line...the time is NOW to finish putting THAT team together for Brandon.

    This team reminds me a little of the Clyde team BEFORE Buck.  They were talented yes, but seemed to be lacking just a little inside presence at BOTH ends, along with a little bit of toughness.  Sound familiar?  Then came Buck Williams.  Anyone remember the conference finals against Phoenix when the Blazers ended the series IN PHOENIX, and # 52 was at the bottom of a team pig pile?  I do.  Is it possible to slide LA to the 3 spot and bring in a traditional power forward?  This would do a number of things.  First, provided he stays healthy, Greg might have a chance to stay in the games a little longer.  When the "last line of defense" is the ONLY LINE, anyone is bound to get into foul trouble.  That was evident early this season before the injury.  Don't think that it was a lack of respect from the officials.  It was the inability of our perimeter defenders to stay in front and deny penetration.  If Oden is able to play long minutes, look out...he is a game changer.  Adding this missing power 4 piece would not only shore up the defensive and rebounding needs, but may also provide the team with a second post threat at the other end.  Both are characteristic of teams that enjoy success in the playoffs with deep runs.  If we are being honest, LA is not a post player and never will be.  You can teach the footwork, the skills all day but it is just not his personality.  His skill set is that of a 3...period.  He has incredible hands and runs the floor very well.  Having him at the 3 with a power 4 would give the Blazers so many advantages with size, length and athleticism.  Batum is not quite ready to fill that starting role yet.  Nic needs to work on putting the ball on the floor and taking it to the rack hard...making himself a triple threat.

    The other glaring need is at point guard.  Who DOESN'T see this?  Dre was an all-star in my book this year, quietly putting the team on his back.  However, mindful of Andre's age, think back to BRoy's window and how many years it will realistically take this team to make a possible Finals appearance.  Will Miller still be the starter?  He needs a young, and obviously very promising understudy.  A player that can learn under him, learn from the best.  Someone that Andre will eventually be handing the torch to for THAT push.  I was sad to see us pass on Ty Lawson in the draft last year.  Nothing he has done this season for Denver has been a surprise to me.  Watch out, the Lakers also have a need at this position now!

    These two needs are, in my opinion, the most pressing RIGHT NOW.  Rudy is only effective when he is happy, and he will not be happy here.  Enough said.  Joel has an expiring contract, something of great value to a lot of teams next season.  There are things this organization can do in the offseason to address these needs.  Blazer brass, the time is now if you want Roy to be your guy.  GO BLAZERS!!

    Lifetime Blazer fan.  BDawg
    I am a fan of players that play with PASSION and PRIDE
  1. BDawg
    BDawg
    Posts: 1593

    Posted 05/02/2010 4:01 AM

    Posted By BDawg on 05/02/2010 3:52 AM
    Hey guys!  Okay...let's first look at the big picture.  I'm sure we can all agree, this team is being built around Brandon Roy.  If the Blazers are to win a championship before his ever-narrowing window closes, they have got some work to do and not much time to do it in.  Looking in the rear view mirror, traditionally, most teams have needed 3-4 years to reach the promiseland known as the NBA Finals.  This team, OUR team, is at least a couple of major pieces shy of having THAT caliber a squad to even BEGIN to make that push.  How much longer does Roy have as the focal point and starter, with his ailing knees and the way his body has been used...being both the initiator and finisher at the offensive end, especially in the fourth quarter(before Dre)?  Bottom line...the time is NOW to finish putting THAT team together for Brandon.

    This team reminds me a little of the Clyde team BEFORE Buck.  They were talented yes, but seemed to be lacking just a little inside presence at BOTH ends, along with a little bit of toughness.  Sound familiar?  Then came Buck Williams.  Anyone remember the conference finals against Phoenix when the Blazers ended the series IN PHOENIX, and # 52 was at the bottom of a team pig pile?  I do.  Is it possible to slide LA to the 3 spot and bring in a traditional power forward?  This would do a number of things.  First, provided he stays healthy, Greg might have a chance to stay in the games a little longer.  When the "last line of defense" is the ONLY LINE, anyone is bound to get into foul trouble.  That was evident early this season before the injury.  Don't think that it was a lack of respect from the officials.  It was the inability of our perimeter defenders to stay in front and deny penetration.  If Oden is able to play long minutes, look out...he is a game changer.  Adding this missing power 4 piece would not only shore up the defensive and rebounding needs, but may also provide the team with a second post threat at the other end.  Both are characteristic of teams that enjoy success in the playoffs with deep runs.  If we are being honest, LA is not a post player and never will be.  You can teach the footwork, the skills all day but it is just not his personality.  His skill set is that of a 3...period.  He has incredible hands and runs the floor very well.  Having him at the 3 with a power 4 would give the Blazers so many advantages with size, length and athleticism.  Batum is not quite ready to fill that starting role yet.  Nic needs to work on putting the ball on the floor and taking it to the rack hard...making himself a triple threat.

    The other glaring need is at point guard.  Who DOESN'T see this?  Dre was an all-star in my book this year, quietly putting the team on his back.  However, mindful of Andre's age, think back to BRoy's window and how many years it will realistically take this team to make a possible Finals appearance.  Will Miller still be the starter?  He needs a young, and obviously very promising understudy.  A player that can learn under him, learn from the best.  Someone that Andre will eventually be handing the torch to for THAT push.  I was sad to see us pass on Ty Lawson in the draft last year.  Nothing he has done this season for Denver has been a surprise to me.  Watch out, the Lakers also have a need at this position now!

    These two needs are, in my opinion, the most pressing RIGHT NOW.  Rudy is only effective when he is happy, and he will not be happy here.  Enough said.  Joel has an expiring contract, something of great value to a lot of teams next season.  There are things this organization can do in the offseason to address these needs.  Blazer brass, the time is now if you want Roy to be your guy.  GO BLAZERS!!

    Lifetime Blazer fan.  BDawg


    I am a fan of players that play with PASSION and PRIDE
  1. andi
    andi
    Posts: 7

    Posted 05/02/2010 10:44 AM

    Some excellent points, Dawg.....

    And yes - I DO remember Buck!!  Now there was a player who had NO FEAR when it came to crashing the boards!  "Get the ball, Buck!"  I do remember the days, and yes - I remember some amazing blocks from him too, particularly in a triple-OT playoff game - back before "Western Conference Champs" was even in our vocabularies!  In my opinion, we would have had the championship that year - had it not been for a couple of very-well-sold "lame-beer" flops.  Blazer had everything Detroit had.  I hear "lame-beer" owns a bar now... and I've often wondered.... do you go into his joint, have a couple of drinks and then "flop" down drunk?!?

    Everyone has there own opionion on where this team should be heading - now it's wait and see....

    One final word to JH:  no matter where you go, or whatever life may bring you - just remember.....
    Mike Rice will always be OLDER than you!!

    Uprise 2011 !!

    I am a fan of the blazers & a rockin' season!! exciting all the way - thanks guys - all of you!! looking forward to next year!!!!!
  1. rmontee6175
    rmontee6175
    Posts: 26

    Posted 05/02/2010 10:45 AM

    BD- I was quite interested in your perspective about LA, it is funny but I have felt that way for a long time. He is a bigger man, yeah, but he is not the post up player. Could he be? That remains to be seen. I agree that it is something that is not just learned. If LA is this far into his career and still just trying to be a post up player, I dont think we have enough time for him to be a huge threat in that position. Make him a solid 3 and lets stop messing around. If we move him to the 3, get another pg, which I also agree with, we could cut the multiple year finals run way down. I am not saying that doing those things will bring us a championship next year, but I do feel that the way this team is and the drive that is instilled into our guys from day one, the day would come sooner than other teams.
    Maybe I am just a little bias about the Blazers, but there are a lot of other coaches, fans and don't forget TV personalities that let some real good things slip out of their mouths when talking about the Blazers and the direction they are headed.
    One final point, I totally understand what you are saying about Roy and his steadily decreasing time available in the league. Every time I think about that, I just cant help but think about some of the other players we have had in our past that many people thought they were too old, they had injuries and nobody was sure what to expect. The funny thing is, it all depends on the player. Clyde? Terry? Cliff? Jerome? I realize that all those guys are right about the same era but I think that there is something to the whole "TEAM UNITY".
    I think Roy is great and yeah, we are building around him. This summer is going to be a very interesting one, I am really curious to know what will develope. Are they going to continue to build with Roy in the middle? Are they going to keep Roy just as he is but try to bring in another franchise player?

    All I know is that in this town, we do not want a team that has the "ONE or TWO" big players and the rest of the team fades into the background. I feel that we want a team that we can be proud of and that means all the guys! If they decided to bring in another franchis player with "running the team" on his mind, it is going to be tough.
    Either way, it is going to be an amazing summer I think and I cant wait to see what kinds of trading and drafting we come up with.
    I am a fan of Being a part of the best fans in the league.
  1. DHawes22
    DHawes22
    Posts: 6488

    Posted 05/02/2010 12:55 PM

    Posted By rmontee6175 on 05/01/2010 10:15 PM
    Ok Blazerfriends--

    As we start into the summer, I am really starting to wonder who is going to stay? Who will go? Whats up with him? You know all those questions we have going on ALL the time!! Lets get started..

    SO anyone know where we really stand with Howard?

    What about Joel? I have heard many different things but have not been able to come up with anything concrete. Anyone know whats up with the "Hardest Working Man in Basketball"?

    Yeah, we signed Camby so that is taken care of for another year but are we watching anyone closely to come work with him?
    I would love to see oden get back into the groove, considering his young career, how much emotional trauma has he been in or through considering the last few years and the extremely limited amount of time? I love the guy, but is he going to WANT to stay?

    I hear a lot of talk about Rudy and Andre - Get rid of them, keep them, trade them, lose one and keep the other.... I dont know about Rudy yet, but I have to give Andre his due props... That guy got us through when there was nobody, and I mean NOBODY the Blazers could really turn to. I know that doesn't say anything for the next year but if Andre wants to play for Portland another year, I say let him! We could do a lot worse, well, we have!!!

    I hear a lot of talk about bringing Blake and Outlaw back!!!
    I was a big fan of Outlaw, I really enjoyed watching him play and I felt that he was really coming into his own before the injury. Some players can bounce back after a major injury, and then there are some players that never get the spark back in the game. Was Travis one of those guys?

    I want to know what everyone else thinks or knows, let me hear it people, where should the team go?

    The only thing I know about Joel is that he won't be ready for training camp and if he missed 41 games or more, than insurance picks up 80% of his contract, very similar to what we had on our hands with Raef LaFrentz in 2009. Also, Joel has a player option for this year so he could opt out and become an unrestricted free agent, but don't look for that to happen as his value is to low on the market due to his injury.

    Speaking strictly from opinion, I have to believe Andre is hear to stay. Unless CP3 is walking through those doors at the practice facility, Portland should not go into the season with their 3rd new point guard in as many years. One thing the team has an advantage over some others are their chemistry. The more of the core guys we can keep and stick together, the great the cohesiveness. Portland is already getting a new player next year in Oden since he missed the last 4 months and Dre and Roy didn't really get 100% accustomed to playing with him, so getting Oden back is the big addition in my book.
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  1. Kassandra
    Kassandra
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    Posted 05/02/2010 8:01 PM

    to summarize:

    Brandon, LaMarcus, Nicolas, Greg, Jerryd and Dante are staying.

    Andre, Martell, Marcus and Patrick are probably staying.

    Rudy, Jeff, Juwan, Joel are on the bubble

    Travis D. is leaving.

    the only way i see us getting rid of Andre is if Jerryd takes over as starting point guard and Patrick would be the backup. under this scenario, Rudy stays and backs up Brandon at shooting guard.

    three of these four are staying: Marcus, Juwan, Joel and Jeff. one is leaving, though i doubt that will be Marcus.

    a lot of this is unknown at this point because we don't know  exactly which position(s) we will target in the draft. following the draft (and any draft day trades), we should have a better idea of the overall situation.

    ~ Kassandra

    I am a fan of my team fighting to win each and every game.
  1. Kassandra
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    Posted 05/02/2010 8:06 PM

    addition:

    i've heard the talk about picing up Travis Outlaw and Steve Blake.

    i like Travis, but i don't see how he fits into our long-term plans at this point. i think Steve is a really nice guy, but he's too inconsistent. we'd be better off looking elsewhere.

    ~ Kassandra
    I am a fan of my team fighting to win each and every game.
  1. Tobyus Sanchezo
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    Posted 05/03/2010 12:02 AM

    I'm really starting to believe it's coaching issues in the playoffs, not player issues. Portland seriously looked like the Clippers against the Suns in a best of seven. To depend on 1 or 2 guys to play exceptional for the team to win, is not how basketball was designed to play.
    I am a fan of multiple All-Stars on the Blazers roster this season!
  1. Bertram
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    Posts: 803

    Posted 05/03/2010 1:09 AM

    I'm tired of Portland fans and this Blake crush. He is garbage. There is a reason we traded him and not Bayless. I'm sorry but Bayless will be worlds better than Blake starting next season, period.

    First off, I do think we are going to grab a decent back up SG or SF and a bruiser as a PF. With that said, Rudy and Howard may be gone...more so Rudy though. I really think his time in Portland (or the NBA) are up.

    Second, I believe we will try to upgrade certain positions. Maybe our starting PG position IF possible. No disrespect to Andre, but if we can get an upgrade from him why not...not much out there though.

    Now what to do with Pryzbilla, Camby, and Oden. Camby and Oden are pretty much lock. Pryzbilla is the one in question. I don't think anyone wants him after this injury, so if he can come back his minutes will be extremely shortened unless we decide to play camby some back-up PF.

    Lastly, here's who I think will stay in Portland in order of certainty:
    Brandon Roy
    LaMarcus Aldridge
    Greg Oden
    Nicolas Batum
    Jerryd Bayless
    Marcus Camby
    Andre Miller

    everyone else is expendable...though i would love to keep Martel, his energy is valuable.
    I am a fan of B-Roy and LaMonster!
  1. Kim~
    Kim~
    Posts: 1137

    Posted 05/03/2010 9:40 AM

    My take on the summer....

    1. Send Mills and Blake jr packing.  Sign the real Blake as back up pg for insurance. 
    2. No minutes available to " develop " another rookie.  Draft picks are trade bait this summer.
    3. If Rudy is unhappy here, let him go.
    4. Until we know for sure what is up with Joel, stand down.  He is too valuable to this team to give away, if he is able to play next season.
    5. Undecided on Martell, but pull the trigger on a trade, if it lands us :
        a. Jeff Green
        b. Jamal Crawford
        c. Raja Bell

    6. Dante is untouchable, and Jeff stays for insurance.
    7. If Howard will stay as a coach, keep him. But I want to see more Dante.
    8. Roy and Miller spend the summer learning to play defense like Nate did. 
    9. Remember that Oden will never play 48 minutes for 82 games.
    10. Keep KP !!!
       

    Go Blazers !!!!
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  1. ***Jason***
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    Posted 05/03/2010 10:33 AM

    We only have the 22nd and 44th picks this year. Not worth much in trading up without adding good players or close to expiring contracts. We already have 65.2 million commited to 12 players (assuming Joel doesnt use his early termination option), so we're already over the cap. We have 3 roster spots available and the mid-level and bi-annual exceptions available. Roy and Aldridge are basically untradable besides the fact that we're building around them, but they're both base-year compensation players (being paid for the first years of their extensions this year... which means they can only return 50% of their contract value in trade, and 100% of the incoming value of their counterpart in a trade counts towards the salary cap. Those trades would have to be huge. They have to decide on their team options on Bayless, Fernandez, and Batum for 2011-2012 before the season starts, and they can extend Oden like they did with Roy and Aldridge last summer. Now would be the time to do that since his value is going to skyrocket if he can get close to a full season it at the level he was playing right before his injury this year. The point is that other than matching value trades, the blazers aren't in a position to do too much in the draft or FA market this year. It's not all bad though because with all the injuries this year and half of our starters nicked up or in street clothes, we stole home court in game 1 this year. It won't be exactly the same (not sure about Andre, Howard, or Joel), but I would expect next years team to look quite a bit like this one. Trade bait would be Martel, Diener, or Mills unless there's a pretty special opportunity that would require one/more of our better players. The only untouchables would be Roy, Aldridge, Canby, Oden and Batum. The Blazers always surprise me, but that's the way it looks to me now. I don't think I would resign Juwan Howard now that we have Canby signed. I wonder what's going to happen to KP?
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  1. ***Jason***
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    Posted 05/03/2010 10:36 AM

    oh yeah... rudy and Pendergraph are trade bait too.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posts: 975

    Posted 05/03/2010 12:45 PM

    Posted By Kassandra on 05/02/2010 8:01 PM
    to summarize:

    Brandon, LaMarcus, Nicolas, Greg, Jerryd and Dante are staying.

    Andre, Martell, Marcus and Patrick are probably staying.

    Rudy, Jeff, Juwan, Joel are on the bubble

    Travis D. is leaving.

    the only way i see us getting rid of Andre is if Jerryd takes over as starting point guard and Patrick would be the backup. under this scenario, Rudy stays and backs up Brandon at shooting guard.

    three of these four are staying: Marcus, Juwan, Joel and Jeff. one is leaving, though i doubt that will be Marcus.

    a lot of this is unknown at this point because we don't know  exactly which position(s) we will target in the draft. following the draft (and any draft day trades), we should have a better idea of the overall situation.

    ~ Kassandra

    Marcus just signed a 2 year extension..he's going to stay, no ifs ands or buts about it.
    I think if Juwan will take a player/coach type role, we will bring him back.
    Martell's contract will make it pretty tough for anyone to desire him in a trade, plus his D is valuable to the team. Look for him to stay.

    My guess is that of players who actually get consistent minutes who have the best chance of moving on are Rudy and Joel. I also wouldn't put it past KP to try to move Aldridge along with a Rudy or Joel and get a better #2 option for Brandon.
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  1. ClydeFrog
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    Posts: 975

    Posted 05/03/2010 12:50 PM

    Posted By Tobyus Sanchezo on 05/03/2010 12:02 AM
    I'm really starting to believe it's coaching issues in the playoffs, not player issues. Portland seriously looked like the Clippers against the Suns in a best of seven. To depend on 1 or 2 guys to play exceptional for the team to win, is not how basketball was designed to play.

    Although I'm a huge Nate supporter and thought he should have won coach of the year after he won 50 games with over 300 games missed due to injury, he does need to make better adjustments. Please, sit down and just study the Jazz offense. If our players were more comfortable making "hockey assists" which is the pass before the assist pass was made, teams wouldn't be able to throw the kitchen sink at LA or Roy via double teams. We had so many passing lanes open during that series, but no one would cut strongly to the hoop. No coach is perfect, so let's hope he works hard in the offense instilling some other offensive schemes.
    I am a fan of Watching Elliot Williams Take Flight!
  1. ***Jason***
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    Posts: 259

    Posted 05/03/2010 1:37 PM

    Aldridge isn't going anywhere this year because this is a base year compensation year for him. What that means is that the CBA makes it extemely expensive and financially unwise to trade a player in the first year of his extension, reason being they don't want teams to use a loophole of extending a player and giving him a salary in the desired range that they would need to satisfy the rule that you have to take back less that 125% in a trade. If KP had any idea of moving Aldridge, he wouldn't have extended him, or he would be waiting till after next season to do it.
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David and Monica updated their fan statement / rjansen joined group Season Ticket Holders / cm_flippin commented on Blazers quiz / kathymcc uploaded new photo / NickPitherUK updated their scrapbook / Qualab and RipCityRevival are friends now / daddy updated their Starting 5 / MJB uploaded new video /