Jul 05

Isola: Knicks Considering Sign-And-Trade For Ray Felton

By caseyholdahl Posted in: freeagency, RaymondFelton

Numerous reports out of New York today indicating that the Knicks could be interested in a sign-and-trade with the Trail Blazers in order to acquire unrestricted free agent point guard Raymond Felton.

First, Frank Isola of the New York Daily News:
Having lost out on their primary free agent target Steve Nash and with Jeremy Lin possibly signing an offer sheet with the Houston Rockets, the Knicks are committed to adding Felton, who finished last season with Portland.
The Knicks may be willing to acquire Felton in a sign-and-trade as a way to hold on to their $3 million mini-mid level exception to use on another free agent. A trade for Felton would likely include Toney Douglas.
And Alan Hahn, MSG Network's Knicks studio analyst, has this to say on Twitter (via, ugh, Sulia)
Expect the Knicks to work with Felton's agent, Tony Dutt, and Felton's previous team, Portland, on a sign-and-trade deal for the free agent. Knicks could involve same foundation pieces from Nash deal (Toney Douglas, Dan Gadzuric and Jerome Jordan plus cash) and offer Felton anywhere from $4M to $6M in the first year. Deal should be amenable to Portland because Gadzuric and Jordan are non-guaranteeds and cash considerations essentially pays for Douglas' salary.
Probably worth noting that, as of right now, the reports only indication possible interest from the Knicks. No mention of whether the Trail Blazers would be willing to engage in a deal of this nature.


  1. @Casey:
    It sounds as great news, since we need fillers, although I know nothing about those players.
    What do you think of the Deal?

    by Hg on 7/5/2012 7:28 AM
  2. This would be a great deal for us, getting something for Felton. Tony Douglas is a serviceable piece. Gadzuric is a bench big. Jordan I know nothing about. The plus cash is the winner. Felton was going to walk away for nothing anyway. No way to lose in this deal. With Gadzuric and Jordan Non guaranteed, they can be waived. If they could be persuaded to take on S Williams contract as well it'd be even better.

    by riverman on 7/5/2012 7:41 AM
  3. what is cash considerations? Can someone help me?

    by special k on 7/5/2012 8:57 AM
  4. It's the Knicks giving us money along with the sign and trade of players they want to let go to give them cap room. Felton should jump on this chance as his best season was with Amare in NY. Now we have to make sure he NEVER drops 50 on us when we play them next season...if he thinks Blazers fans gave him a hard time, Knicks fans can be brutal!

    by riverman on 7/5/2012 9:03 AM
  5. Glad I'm not the only one who doesn't like sulia!

    by DHawes22 on 7/5/2012 9:45 AM
  6. first of all, i just had to laugh at that picture of Felton. i think that pretty much sums up the BlazerNation's frustration with him last season. Second, we ought to look for a draft pick rather than a trio of players we'll probably just end up waiving in the long run (though PA probably wouldn't mind some more cash!). then again, it's like you said, Casey, there was no mention whether the blazers would be interested in such a deal.

    ~ KMM

    by Kassandra on 7/5/2012 10:14 AM
  7. I would try to get a draft pick and Toney Douglas......he'll back up Lillard nicely

    by Siccolo on 7/5/2012 10:38 AM
  8. The main thing is we don't want Felton back and the NYK knows it, if we won't sign and trade with them, and since he is a FA, maybe some other team will do a sign and trade with them. My devious mind which I got from the great Miss Kassandra, is thinking if Indy was to do the sign and trade to get a big back and a center after losing Hibby to us and we steal Collison as they will have Toney and we could all be as happy as Kassandra on gratuation day. Felton would get back to NY, Indy would get a couple of bigs and we would get Hibbert, Collison and keep Nic. Since Felton is not ours anything we get for him tickles me.

    by Hg on 7/5/2012 10:53 AM
  9. @ Hg, I think u got it ;) THIS is the most Felton (& the Knicks current situation ;) could've helped us :) I think our chances are Gggggooood NOW that we can land Hibbert (but if not him @ least we can get something good for him via sign & trade 2-3 team deal) but MOST importantly IMO, Collison! Regardless of which sign & trade or not or this & that... what I want us to end up w/ in the end is Collison and a very good versatile big (aka Hibbert, Ilyosova, or Pekavic), anything else after that is icing on the cake (I DO believe we're gettin' some icing ppl!) for me! :D

    by Simpson on 7/5/2012 12:48 PM
  10. I'm guessing this deal is no longer being considered since J Kidd is going to NY

    by KD_43 on 7/5/2012 3:04 PM
  11. @KD_43: that is my thoughts too. Maybe Raymond won't have a place to play next year.

    by Hg on 7/5/2012 3:17 PM
  12. Man , I hate Kidd even more now :( On the bright side, w/ more teams filling needs, that means that those that r still in need VERY much wanna play ball w/ those that CAN still play; I c us in the driver's seat amongst the teams still makin' moves; most of the needy teams now have few options, for ;) Despite all this, good things CAN/WILL STILL come to us/our Blazers (the course is a lil' different now but that's ok :)

    by Simpson on 7/5/2012 4:13 PM
  13. @simpson:
    If we get Hibbert our starting five with the Blazers saying they will match everything, is pretty well set. Even if Indy matches we can get good minute out of Leonard. and we probably have Freeland, so most of what we need is role players and maybe a tutor for Lillard and Leonard. So we are not too bad off right now. with Hibbert our starting five will be awesome with Hibbert being able to pass so effectively out of the post and if Lillard and Wesley can make their shots along with Batum. we should be able to score inside and out.

    by Hg on 7/5/2012 4:21 PM
  14. @Hg, a lot of good points sir ;) Whelp, I can't say who'll b/won't b here BUT what I CAN say is OUR Blazers this season r gonna b awesome & fun to watch! :)

    by Simpson on 7/5/2012 5:17 PM
  15. Jason Kidd is not playing major minutes next season, guaranteed. Amare had an allstar season with Felton at the pt guard position. I think the deal stands. I want Collison as well but don't see us getting him unless Hibbert is matched. If Hibbert is matched, Ilyasova is my #1 target. Freeland would be next. Then I'd outbid GS for Hickson. Centers and pt guards are getting gobbled up quickly. Brandon Bass and Lou Amundsen are also interesting free agents.

    by riverman on 7/5/2012 6:17 PM
  16. We also have until next Feb to trade players under contract so there's flexibility mid season as well to pick up draft picks or tweek the roster.

    by riverman on 7/5/2012 6:20 PM
  17. The way the weather has been brutally beating up most of the Nba cities across the nation, rejoice in the fact that it still rains in Oregon.....a selling point for free agents

    by riverman on 7/5/2012 6:26 PM
  18. I think that Felton to Knicks is a longshot now.....Knicks look to bring Lin back, and Kidd is now with them so I doubt theres any room for Felton. If we dont get hibbert Im sure Blazers will look at Brook/Robin Lopez and Mcgee. Its sad to see Batum have a verbal agreement to Minn. (NOW THEY HAVE TWO BLAZERS!!!! fuckers lol) I kno that Oshley said that they will match any offer but I dont think that will eb a good idea. Too much for looking for a sign and trade for Derrick Williams , Luke Ridnour and a draft pick... GO BLAZERS

    by Siccolo on 7/5/2012 9:17 PM
  19. @Siccolo: Batum didn't get a verbal agreement with Minny that was just put out to lure the Blazers into a sign and trade.

    by Hg on 7/5/2012 9:34 PM
  20. @hg whats your source on the batum agreement????

    by ottomatic19 on 7/6/2012 3:04 PM
  21. Hey ottomantic19: I responded to you before I read today's news, I was at work.
    My bad.

    by Hg on 7/6/2012 5:05 PM
  22. I think the sign-and-trade is a great idea. But I think we could go after Iman Shumpert instead of Toney Douglas. Iman is a great young player with an excellent vertical and outstanding defense for a guard. He is also big enough to play either the one or two guard position. His offense is still coming to him but I think he would fit in just great in Portland. And this would work even if they do or don't match the Houston offer on Lin.

    by WES"3" MAT"2"S on 7/8/2012 6:50 AM
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