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Jul 02

Wolfson: No Verbal Agreement Between Batum And Timberwolves, Sign And Trade An Option

By caseyholdahl Posted in: NicolasBatum

Darren Wolfson of ESPN Radio affiliate 1500 ESPN Twin Cities reports that Nicolas Batum left a meeting with the Timberwolves without a verbal agreement for a new contract. But he also reports that a "team source" has told him a sign and trade between the Trail Blazers and Timberwolves is a very real possibility:
According to a source with intimate knowledge of those discussions, Batum is the Wolves' Plan A in free agency -- and he told the Wolves he has legitimate interest in coming.

Financially, the Wolves know where Batum stands, so a verbal agreement in advance of July 11 -- the first day free agent contracts can be signed -- could come very soon. But as of Monday night, with Batum no longer in the Twin Cities, a verbal agreement had not been reached.

A team source said Batum's agent is very much in control of the situation, more so than for most free agents.

Comcast Portland is reporting Batum will meet with the Blazers on Thursday or Friday. The Wolves think there's a decent chance he'll express his desire to play in Minnesota.

The team source said there's a far better chance that Batum would come via a sign-and-trade, because outright landing a restricted free agent is too tough. He is not planning on taking any other visits.
The option to sign and trade has always been available, though this is the first time (as far as I know) that it's been mentioned in the press as an option regarding Batum's free agency. It was reported by Chris Haynes of Comcast SportsNet Northwest that Batum would likely meet with the Hornets and Raptors before making a decision. This report would seem to indicate otherwise.

26 Comments

  1. I'm lost... is this good news for Portland on the Batum situation assuming we want to keep him?

    Also, if we were to sign Batum for 4 year 50m (matching Minny's contract), would we still have room for Hibbert and Billups?

    by Herr on 7/2/2012 4:40 PM
  2. i love batum, BUT i can live with letting him go. I honestly think Damian Lillard can score more than 18 a game this season. Give Lillard the green light on scoring and sign roy hibbert. Lillard is going to be a star.

    by IMeriksmith on 7/2/2012 4:45 PM
  3. I am extremely confused. Is it true that Nic wants out of Portland or not, because if he is, that is some bad news for the Blazers. Seeing what you wrote above, If we can sign both Nic and Hibbert, go for it. Chauncey can come, but only go for him if the price is right. I think Batum is a must sign as the only other small forward under contract is Luke Babbit, who we all know is not a starter or will ever have starting capability. WE NEED BATUM (LOL).

    by basketball1367 on 7/2/2012 4:52 PM
  4. Nic wants to STAY in Portland. In fact it was just reported that narrowed his choices to Minny and Portland when Portland hasn't said a thing to him. The question is do you let him go and have that money to sign a Chauncy Billups to mentor Lillard who will likely be our most important player for years to come, or do you look to keep a young core together?

    I'd have to agree with Casey on this one. I don't see this much as good news, except that the Blazers could get some pieces they probably don't care about for trading Nic, but then again, I don't trust a Minny writer, just as I take any optimism in Hibbert coming here as a grain of salt. Fact of the matter is that anything can happen. Once we learn of the Hibbert situation we'll learn of the Batum situation.

    by Herr on 7/2/2012 5:08 PM
  5. It's good news that a verbal agreement wasn't reached. However, it's bad news that a sign-and-trade deal could be a possibility.

    by newellbrian on 7/2/2012 5:22 PM
  6. Chances Nico will b a Blazer next season... this is bad news. Chances that we get some awesome players that WE WILL CARE ABOUT... this IS VERY GOOD news! :) IF we could do a deal for Pekovic (if we get him: I think he's a better fit that comes to us @ a cheaper price. We don't need Hibbert if we get Pek), Derrick Williams, Collison (provided we could get Indy to bite on Hibbert; if Indy let's Roy go, it will b much harder to get some other good pieces in return but a 3 or 4 team deal may still b possible ;)

    by Simpson on 7/2/2012 6:37 PM
  7. I said on another thread that because they just got he could be an asset back in a sign and trade who could fill some of the void and be a promising young small forward who can shoot 3's and is very athletic. I would have a deal around him.

    by abarrer3 on 7/2/2012 6:50 PM
  8. ^^ sorry chase budinger

    by abarrer3 on 7/2/2012 7:20 PM
  9. Yeah, bad news that a sign-and-trade is a possibility. I just hate to think of Nic leaving. Didn't think it would even come to this though I did tweet at him and MissBatum last year itself, that they should stay here. Guess we have to sit tight and wait to see what happens.

    by Anees on 7/2/2012 7:30 PM
  10. For God's sake get Batum signed!!!!!! Neil Olshey, you have more negotiating skills than this goofball agent of Batum's does. Also, please talk him into firing said agent. He has given me a butt ache.

    by natsthecat on 7/2/2012 10:27 PM
  11. If we could sinn and trade Batum for Pekovic and a 2013, 14, or 15 unrestricted 1st rounder then do the deal Olshey.

    by mbmurr1 on 7/2/2012 11:10 PM
  12. Minn would never give up 3 first rounders. Whats with all this Minn trade talk. NONE are even good for both teams, for us defiantly but not to both teams. Pretty sure Minn doesn't want Nic that bad.

    by Angel Alvarez on 7/3/2012 12:15 AM
  13. @angle mbmurr was suggesting a pick in any of those 3 years and Pekovic.

    I like his idea but I do not see them giving us an unprotected pick in return. And Pekovic is only an option if we do not sign Hibbert otherwise we would have too many centers. But the biggest thing we need is a trade exception.

    by cmeese47 on 7/3/2012 11:18 AM
  14. Plan A is I want Batum in Portland. If that isn't going to pan out, a sign and trade is a good way to bring two players from Minn here. One would be Luke Ridnour to mentor Lillard. Doesn't need starter minutes, smart player, not expensive and has a great jump shot, makes his free throws and doesn't turn over the ball. The other player would have to be Williams, Budinger or Beasley....sure Martel would be available but he's not lighting it up the last couple of years. Beasley can score in bunches and like Batum has a tendency to disappear every other game or so. Williams is a young project. MY dream from Minn...steal their coach while we're at it.

    by riverman on 7/3/2012 12:07 PM
  15. NO BATUM....sob, sob, sniff, sniff...PLEASE don't let that happen....Get this Hibbert dude and work a deal with Batum....end of story...

    by beckyfan on 7/3/2012 3:54 PM
  16. For pgs coming to Portland to mentor Lillard, Collison is my 1st choice for a LOT of reasons (he'll ride the pine & Indy would rather get something for Collison while his value is up to try to get something good for him, Collison only makes $1.5mill/yr. so we don't have to give up much to get a YOUNG ELITE pg w/ a chip on his shoulder, etc.); he makes THE MOST sense from $, on/off court character, fit, skill, & effort perspectives. IF we COULDN'T get him... IF Jose Calderon is amnestied, then he would be an excellent choice for ~<$9mill/yr (he had a good season last yr., younger AND CHEAPER than Nash, ur poor man's Nash, good mentor for Lillard, & I think he's got quite a bit left in the tank). IF he's amnestied, Tor. CAN'T match & personally for the longevity of Calderon's career, training/pairing w/ Lillard makes it so that Calderon doesn't have to play so many minutes; ALSO, he's never had teammates as good as our Blazers! :) btw, Blazers HAVE liked Calderon for quite some time... ;)

    by Simpson on 7/4/2012 7:38 AM
  17. Just for fun, here's a lil' snippet from the GM of GSW: "I'd like the West to get weaker... The West always seems to be getting stronger." Gives u an insight as to their "culture" over there; GLAD we got Olshey v. THAT guy! ;)

    by Simpson on 7/4/2012 8:18 AM
  18. @Simpson:
    I agree with you on both Calderon and Collison, in fact, by thinking is that Indy is going to match our offer on Hibbert and that might make it easier to get Collison. ans Hill is already to be their PG. Of the two, I like Collison better, he is young enough to be a Blazer long term PG, as back up, mentor and just down right smart BB playing. With Calderon, if he is amnestied, we only have to out bid other bidders, as Toronto will have to pay the biggest part of the bill. Hell we might be able to get both of them and let Nolan be a combo guard that can score with aggressive play like Lillard can. Can you see our roster and all the possibilities? I don't know that much about Calderon, except he can shoot the three and is a good passing PG so I have been told.

    by Hg on 7/4/2012 9:01 AM
  19. @riverman:
    There is no reason to sign and trade Batum, Minny hasn't made any offer yet that Portland would not match. They are trying to make Portland feel that Batum no longer wants to play in Portland forcing a sign and trade. But remember Nic said he was 99% sure he would be a Blazer, Portland has said countless times he is a franchise player, so what incentives does Portland have to sign and trade, Heck just sign him and keep him. Batum is a professional whether he has likes for Minny or not he will still play his game for Portland.
    I feel more certain of Nic being a Blazer then Hibbert.

    by Hg on 7/4/2012 9:08 AM
  20. Calderon is a nice passer but he is one the worst defenders in the NBA. He is not a good option for as much money as he will want.

    by cmeese47 on 7/4/2012 10:54 AM
  21. @cmeese47: We would only have to pay him what we bid for him if he is amnestised. Tronto will be paying his contract and the amount we pay will be taken off theirs. Same deal as with BRoy. Whoever signs him, that amount comes off the books.

    by Hg on 7/4/2012 11:12 AM
  22. If we dont get Hibbert then I would match any offer Batum getes. I would then sign Hawes, then go after some good role players like Carl Landry, Billups, I wouldnt be against the idea os a ST FOR Dwill and Rindour maybe we have to throw in NSmith...... IDK

    by Siccolo on 7/4/2012 11:25 AM
  23. @ Cory, ur right about Calderon not being a great defender (1 of the reasons why I refer to him as ur poor man's Nash ;) but we don't need him to b (we got enough guys to pick up that slack ;)

    @ Hg right u r; ur a smart man (also bc you've been w/ me on the Collison thing since the beginning! hahaha! ;) @ Siccolo, I like Ridnour but I'd go w/ the other options mentioned (I see them as great to better fits ;) 1st & then as a last resort Luke (good fit) would b a good player & mentor @ a good $. @ any rate, this is a good time a Blazer fan; we've so many options for filling roster spots/needs :) Happy 4th of July every1! :)

    by Simpson on 7/4/2012 11:46 AM
  24. Have to add that I completely agree with Collison as an addition. If we sign and trade Nic, which I hope never happens, we still could get a guard in the deal. Indy is not going to trade Collison to us after we burned them with the Hibbert offer. At least I wouldn't think so. Nico is a great piece and there's a reason many teams jumped on him early with big offers. Without a serious rebounding center though, we won't get to the next level anytime soon. I still think we should consider Patty Mills for the vet guard as well.

    by riverman on 7/4/2012 4:25 PM
  25. Batum has had a great four-year stint with the Blazers. And I didn't think we played him to the best of his abilities. But he wants to go to Minnesota, I don't know why (have you ever seen a Wolves home game? about 30 people show up) But I think that there are a couple other options in free-agency such as: Gerald Green (Brooklyn Nets), C.J. Miles (Utah Jazz), and Courtney Lee (Houston Rockets) who have all have had good stats in their careers. And could step up and fill Batum's roll quite nicely. Also non of those players are going to ask for more than $10 mill a year. Among other thing these players also have better spot up shooting percentages than Nic did and that was the one thing we asked him to do on offense. I also realize we will be giving up some strength on the defensive end but Roy Hibbert will really help us when one of these guys gets beat every once in a while. So all in all I think that Nic was a fan- favorite here in Portland but he wants to be "happy" and if that's not here in Portland than that's okay with me.

    by WES"3" MAT"2"S on 7/5/2012 10:08 PM
  26. IF BATUM GOES.. THADDEUS YOUNG IS WHO WE NEED!! BRINGING IN ERIC GORDON WOULD ALSO BE AMAZING.. IF THEY COULD SOMEHOW LAND HIBBERT YOUNG AND GORDON... YEAH BUDDY!!!

    by Josh Williams on 7/9/2012 11:15 AM
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