Feb 23

Blazers Go Cold, Lakers Rally

By mikebarrett
For all of the clutch wins and outstanding fourth-quarter play turned in by the Trail Blazers lately, this one goes down as a big missed opportunity.  The Lakers appeared to be ready, several times in the final five minutes, to be knocked out for good.  But, the Trail Blazers missed their final seven shots of regulation and left the door wide open.  Again some teams you can probably get away with that.  Against the champs?  No chance.

Portland led 87-79 with 4:23 to go.  That's not exactly turn-out-the-lights time, but it's been the kind of late lead the Blazers have been able to deal with lately.  But, nothing would fall for them offensively in the final minutes.  The Lakers forced the game into overtime, grabbed all the momentum, and won it 106-101.

The Lakers are a very good defensive team, so some credit goes to the job they did in the fourth quarter, particularly on LaMarcus Aldridge.  But, this just appeared to be a case of the Blazers missing good shots.  They were getting open in those final minutes, but just didn't hit.

Aldridge, who had 29 points through three quarters, ended the game with 29 points.  He took just three shots in the fourth quarter, but had a chance to be the hero on the final play of regulation.  It was a play that was designed to go to Rudy or to Aldridge.  Aldridge drove down the right side, scooped the ball off the backboard, and it was just short.  The air came out of the building, and that was that.

The loss ruined the return of Brandon Roy.  He played just 15:34, after being told he could only play 15 minutes.  He was rusty, obviously, but was effective in the time he played.  He hit a big three-pointer in the second half, as Portland was building a double-digit lead.

Wesley Matthews had 22 for the Trail Blazers, and Nicolas Batum also added 22, hitting four three pointers.

To listen to Nate McMillan's post-game comments, click here.

Even though the Trail Blazers made it possible with their sustained draught late in this game, the Lakers made the big plays, and hit the big shots, and deserved the win.  That doesn't make it any less painful for the Blazers, who saw the six-game winning streak end.

There are still three games left on this home stand, which continues on Friday night against the new-look Denver Nuggets.  It'll continue Sunday against Atlanta, and Tuesday against the Houston Rockets.


  1. WOW...
    Aldridge powers thru what, like 2..3 times at the end? And you're gonna tell me that those other three 7 footers in there with their big clumsy arms weren't hackin him? He just shot like 80% in the first half... and now his arms just flail?!

    How about, instead of talking about the blazers as failures for the last 4 minutes... we talk about who the refs are paying homage to?! Should Kobe just slap the refs around some more? Maybe if he literally did so, he'd get a T called?... unlikely.. as we lost this game before it started...

    it was a GREATLY played game by our blazers.. i found myself several times admiring a GOOD TEAM... not just sayin.. "wow.. we're surviving!"

    Glad to see what Roy and Pryz brought tonight... Really, the whole team was doing a great job.. but when the NBA is showing its "Rigged" Cards as much as it has since the first person mentioned "all-star" this season... then the words "Blake Griffin"... why SHOULD the blazers sit at the 5 spot for more than a week.

    Really... it makes me sick.. whens the last time we saw LMA over there rubbin up on the refs... I'm glad that our team has so much class.. i just wonder sometimes...

    I was reminded tonight, WHY I HATE THE LAKERS... no class, as further illustrated by the clown-dressed fans...


    by Blazermaniak on 2/23/2011 11:36 PM
  2. Yeah its super painful to watch us lose to LA. You know I was feelin it, In the first half I was like wow hmmmm, the calls are going the Blazers way..surprised, but does that mean the Lakers get the calls in the 2nd half? YEP!...and boy did they. Kobe and the gang jibba jabbered enough to the refs, to make them call for them it seemed....

    NOW iam not going to say we 100% lost due to refs alone...not scoring in last 4 min of the game is not going to help you at all. And miss free throws in overtime hurt too. but wow!!!...I was like go to Aldridge..go to Aldridge!! and they did in the 4th, and back to back he got hammered hard.........No foul..right in the refs face...Then the LA foul on Gasol....ummm haha....haha..hahah..yeah not so much.

    Roy came out and did what he should do...not try to prove too much...just pace himself and make few plays happen...and all in all..I think he did great job...So far so good, and ill leave it at that for now. As usual Artest hurt us bad tonight...now hell go back to his 8 ppg till the next Blazer game. We played pretty darn good for the most part, just couldnt finish, and we didnt double kobe in the 4th..and Aldridge straight up got robbed!!!! by the refs.

    by whitefeather21380 on 2/24/2011 12:00 AM
  3. Disappointing loss. We did give it away, but I do agree the refs didn't play it the same way on both ends. I don't mind if they let both teams play hard, but LA was getting hacked and not called while not near the same contact was called on the other end.

    by mgb on 2/24/2011 12:02 AM
  4. I just wanted to add I wasn't trying to say it was all the refs fault, we missed wide open shots that we should have hit. We just went cold.

    by mgb on 2/24/2011 12:04 AM
  5. Any LA home loss is going to be a tough loss. We shot poor at the end, missed a handful of free throws and wide, wide open 3s. You can blame the refs cause thats easy...they didn't give us the calls but if we closed how we'd been closing games those calls at the end wouldn't have mattered.

    by BR7_Fan on 2/24/2011 12:09 AM
  6. I agree, I agree.... The part I think that really set me off WAS that call Gasol got... I think LMA blew on him or something.. while, on his drives, he all but got his shorts pulled down..

    by Blazermaniak on 2/24/2011 12:09 AM
  7. Well, let me just get it out that I absolutely hate the Lakers. I can't wait until Kobe retires and Jackson retires. That franchise needs to die for the good of basketball. And tonight proved why. First, I'd just like to add I have no problem with PJ or Kobe, I just hate their fans with a passion. I hear their crap constantly everyday, and prevent myself from exploding I have to take a break for other players I like to blog on (including NBA.com). So, this loss really hurts.

    Sadly the thing that hurts the most is not that it was to the Lakers, or at home, but that we had a great chance to get a 10 game win streak, and it ends on the game I thought we for sure would have won, and we should have. Also, we need to make a playoff push and seriously look for a seed, not just making the playoffs. 5th or 4th is our best chance, we're just lucky the contenders for those spots lost recently.

    However, I must correct you Mike. We had OPEN looks, not good looks. I was pissed off that we kept dying by the three pointer in this game. It's getting pathetic. However, that comes with youth. Batum and Wesley should have been more aggressive, but they camped on the three point line and that was the last place we needed them to be.

    Lastly, the market sizes won this game for the Lakers. I'm with everyone where LaMarcus got absolutely hammered on his final 3 possessions in the fourth quarter. If it was Kobe, LeBron, Durant, Duncan, Gasol, Stoudamire, West... just about nearly every powerforward in the league, a foul would have been called.

    In regular basketball, the Blazers win this game. In the biased BS NBA, the Lakers win. How pathetic.

    Oh well, one thing that is nice is not having to worry about keeping any streak. When you're on a big win streak, especially against an elite team, the games become less enjoyable, and more worry some. This game has been on my mind for ages. In fact, I actually dreamt about this game, and sadly we lost in my dreams. Appeared they came true. It's nice to just get it off our minds and it's time to move on and beat Denver. We still got a chance to get 4th or 5th and move far into the playoffs.

    Now let's just hope the Laker plane crashes.

    by Herr on 2/24/2011 1:23 AM
  8. Mike, thanks for the post.

    I came away from the game with mixed emoitions. I was happy and proud of the way the team played and sad because they lost a gallant game.

    It sure was great see BRoy on the court again.

    Regardless of the loss we are winners, but we have to learn to make our free throws LOL.


    by Hg on 2/24/2011 2:40 AM
  9. As the Schonze says "you have to hit your free throws".
    Positives: Joel played the best since his injury and limited Bynum's play.
    Rudy's lob to LMA.
    BRoy mixed well and was a positive.
    Negatives: Rudy shot 1for 6 in regulation.
    Wes throwing up one legged off balance falling down shots.
    Playing LMA so many minutes that his legs were gone at the end(missed free throws and layup at the end coming up short)

    For three and a half quarters we saw what this team can do to an elite team. We're almost there.

    by Ancientone on 2/24/2011 6:44 AM
  10. Tasteless comment "probably some drunk Laker Fan threw up on the court" during the game. Blazers played great - Lakers played better. Good game, Lakers won, get over it. "Blazers TV" a little rough around the edges.

    by lakerheart on 2/24/2011 7:11 AM
  11. Ancientone:

    I was thinking the same thing, we are almost there. We need Camby back, although as you said Joel did play good, We need both when playing teams with length.

    I was wondering if LMA's Legs were tired.

    Part of the loss was as said, the Lakers has a great defensive team and they are long and physical. in a grind out half court they can wear LMA out with Bynum and Gasol.

    It was a terrific game.


    by Hg on 2/24/2011 7:49 AM
  12. Herr, you hit it on the head. Wesley and Batum should have attacked more. On the flipside, the Lakers gave us open outside shots. We just didn't hit them. Nonetheless, we should have attacked the rim more. Aldridge sometimes had 4 guys collapse on him. It's amazing he had 29 points.

    Aldridge, Batum, Wesley, and Pryzabilla all had solid games. Wesley was a warrior. I cringed when I saw him sprain his ankle (again) and play through it. He'll be hurting tomorrow.

    I was happy to see Roy in the lineup. He did just what we needed him to do. I hope he can adjust to our fast paced game. His sets really slow things down and I worry it might throw things out of rhythm.

    I was happy to see McMillian use Rudy more. It seems to me that Rudy is being used more than a 3pt shooter these days. He's becoming more of a facilitator. Rudy played some meaningful minutes and at good times. Props to McMillan for feeling things out.

    Overall, we played a good game. We were up by 7 with 2 minutes to go but things got away from us. Some misses, some no calls, it all added up to a loss. Give credit to the Lakers, they turned it on when they really needed to. I will say though, they have lost a step.

    I agree with lakerheart. A more appropriate comment should have been made like "Laker fans should not drink in the Rose Garden." That would be more constructive.

    Go Blazers!

    by thedanman on 2/24/2011 8:14 AM
  13. Oh the irony. A Laker fan complaining what was said on TV. Now THAT's a good one. Because we all know Kobe, PJ, the crowd, and all the Laker players are such saints that would NEVER say anything like that.

    It's why I hate Laker fans. Even if they win they are never satisfied. Funny part is he went through the process of creating a BLAZER account on there forums and ranted on Barrett's blog instead of Rice's.

    by Herr on 2/24/2011 8:28 AM
  14. this was one of those games where, if any single thing went differently, the outcome would likely have been different. it wouldn't even have to be a big thing; just one small thing and this is a win for the blazers.

    if we'd have scored just one more point in the last 4:22 of the fourth quarter; if Bryant would have been called for just one of the technicals he obviously deserved for whining and complaining every call (assuming we had converted the ft); if just one of the hacks on LaMarcus would have sent him to the line; if just one of the lakers' shots had not fallen; had we gotten just one more rebound ... the list is seemingly endless. we could have won this game in regulation.

    we played very well for about three-and-a-half quarters, and even held a seven-point lead with less than two minutes to go (as in the miami game). our shot selection in that final four minutes was not good. our offensive execution in the entire fourth quarter, for lack of better term, sucked. toward the end of the game, it appeared as if we were the team playing on the second half of a back-to-back.

    i do have one major bone to pick with the officiating. when Gasol drew his sixth foul late in overtime, then baited LaMarcus which led to the double-technical, Gasol was on the court a very long time after drawing that foul. i haven't looked it up extensively, but i had previously heard that a player has a time limit to leave the floor after drawing his sixth foul. i could be wrong, but if there is such a rule, Gasol violated it. that should have been good for either a technical or, in the least, a delay-of-game technical.

    LaMarcus had a great three quarters; Joel was solid (we needed his rebounding in the fourth quarter, but where was he?). Nicolas sparked us, especially in overtime; Wesley played a well-rounded game on both ends; and Rudy played with his usual energy (great play when he leaped over the scorers table to save the ball which went to Nicolas for the three). Brandon didn't force things and let the game come to him; great to see him back.

    and i kind of have to laugh at the yellow jerseys at the rose garden and wonder: how many are actual lakers fans, and how many are fair-weather fans of the most recent team to win a championship?

    ~ Kassandra

    by Kassandra on 2/24/2011 11:32 AM
  15. If we're going to compare this game to any game this season, it has to be the OKC game at the Rose Garden. Played well for 3 and a half quarters and then fell asleep, leading to an overtime that shouldn't have happened and a loss that shouldn't have happened.

    I'm confident we still own the Lakers in Portland. It's just little things that tend to happen. It's basketball after all. Now time to unleash our beast against Denver. Is Roy still limited in playing time? I hope not. Would love to see him play 20+ minutes.

    by Herr on 2/24/2011 11:35 AM
  16. Mike:

    I know I am getting ahead of myself, but I got to know the trade for Gerald Wallace for Joel and Dante is fine and good, but my mind keeps me on the subject of Joel buying out his contract and resigning with the Blazers, I know we would have to give up Marks, but Joel would be an up grade and then when he is healthier give him a new contract.

    Is any of that feasible?


    by Hg on 2/24/2011 1:03 PM

  17. get ready to run blazers fans

    pryz for g. wallace = the start of the portland trailblazers track club

    the line-up combinations could be pretty interesting

    by reverse on 2/24/2011 1:18 PM
  18. hg,

    i'd like to see joel come back too.

    we'll see how that goes...

    by reverse on 2/24/2011 1:19 PM
  19. OH!! we wouldn't have to give up Marks because we have a roster spot unless we use that for Ford.


    by Hg on 2/24/2011 1:30 PM
  20. Blazers get Gerald Wallace for Joel Przybilla, Dante Cunningham and 2 first-round picks (one of which was NOH's from the Bayless deal).

    I'm bummed about Cunningham, but Crash will be a great addition to the team. I just hope the Blazers think hard about picking him up in Free Agency this summer.

    Once again, the SF rotation is bound to be screwed with but at least now it won't be Nate trying to squeeze a guard into the role a la Webster, Roy, and Mathews. Nate just better not try to put Wallace at PF because he came out earlier this season and said he wouldn't do it. I wonder if Batum will ride the pine again?

    by 500Dogs on 2/24/2011 1:34 PM
  21. There is a lot of variations that can come from G Wallace. We can put LMA at PF 2. Batum in at the PF and Wallace as SF, with Dre and Wesley as guards when we want to go small. We would have 4 great defenders and Dre isn't as bad as some think. We will have another force driving to the basket and Bernie says GW is getting much better at mid range shots.

    He could also go in with BRoy on the second unit and be BRoy's legs and Rudy and BRoy being the outside shooters with LMA playing the PF2 spot. I think the line-up when Camby comes back with the starting five as is with a little more depth off the bench, but Dante and Joel will certainly be missed.


    by Hg on 2/24/2011 1:53 PM
  22. Lot of you guys hit it on the head..missed free throws,tired legs for LA in the later mins.....Just could not finish at the end. And yeah Kassandra, if anything 1 thing would have changed it would have been a blazer win. Its like the Lakers were going to win no matter what. The Lakers did play better basketball in the last minutes in terms of execution.

    I respect the Lakers talent..great team..but hate the politics in the nba. If your not gonna call calls for Aldridge, then dont call a stupid foul for Gasol. I dont know how many times on tv I hear how guys like Kobe&James,Wade ect....will put the "pressure" on the refs to make the call. But does Aldridge,Batum,Miller have that same effect at the end of games???? NOPE. Which I think is silly.

    How many games between 2 good teams are decided in the last few minutes?? ALOT. How many games did a Kobe Bryant Lakers or Lebron James Cavs team win, because they put thier head down went to the hoop, and got the foul?? Maybe some slight tounching,body bumping...., but then a player of lesser stardom does the same thing for HIS team, except gets hammered and the refs dont do nothing...ALOT

    So while the Lakers did win this game, and played better in the end..there is alot of bs in this game. Its basicly.. "Hey Im Kobe..Im Lebron or Wade..whatever...and Im big star...Im the freakin MAN..and ref, You better call a foul when the game is on the line!..or maybe you wont have a job in the nba for too long.

    An yeah I heard about the trade...hmmmmmm Ill miss Dante. Joel has given us some good years too. IF Wallace can stay healty it might work out ok...Still where does Batum go now?? Hes been playin pretty good for most part....would have been nice to get a center..but meh...Time will tell.

    by whitefeather21380 on 2/24/2011 2:03 PM
  23. Kassandra pretty much nailed what I wanted to say, although I'm not as down on the poor offensive execution as she is. I too had a long, long list of little things that would have won the game--Nic's second bobbled alley-oop, a single free throw, any of the misses on threes Artest should by all rights have had--and I felt like it was mostly just one of those nights. We missed too many free throws, they made way too many threes, and both are mostly just unlucky statistical breaks. We played very good defense all night, and that was impressive. I'm with the majority in being steamed with the refs, although less so about missed foul calls than about the failure to enforce the "respect for the game" rule early and often to shut down the Lakers's whining after every call. Every point on the board this season from that new emphasis on decorum is now meaningless, because the refs refuse to enforce the rule against the reigning champions. It would have been a very different game if Kobe and Artest had been playing with a "T" each from the first quarter on, as they clearly deserved, but that would imply a ref with the guts to make them understand that they were really going to be tossed if they pulled that stuff again. Their arrogance in berating the refs notwithstanding, the Lakers were playing tough, playoff style defense, and we all know that when you muscle your opponents on every play the refs will let quite a few pass. We got a decent share of free throws under those circumstances, and just needed to make more. I was pretty impressed with how well the Blazers executed against that kind of tough pressure. There were certainly times the flow bogged down, but there were many others when the team fought through it the way they'll have to in the playoffs.
    I will say I am puzzled by the posters who think the solution to the Lakers D would have been to force the ball into the crowded lane instead of taking the open shots they gave us. Did you guys miss all the times we got stuffed trying to do exactly that? Every credible team in this league responds to a pack-em-in defense by kicking to a jump shooter; in fact, that's exactly how the Lakers ended up winning this game. Take away their surplus threes and we win easily. Both teams did what you have have to do against switching and inside defense, but on this night the Lakers made more of those shots. I was disappointed with the outcome, but proud of the way the team played. And I discovered that I can indeed hate the arrogant, rules-don't-apply-to-us Lakers even more than I did before.

    by Islander on 2/24/2011 2:05 PM
  24. Wow.. My first reaction was to ship Cho back to china to harvest rice...

    We'll see how it plays out... I guess this is what creates all the bandwagon fans that buy 7 and 88 jerseys... I bought 33 and was proud.. Still am.. Just a little pissed.. Gerald SHOULD be better he's OLDER... On a team that keeps griping about age in Miller and Camby.. We give away our biggest hustle player.. And a young kid with an amazing potential to be our next Kersey.

    Go Blazers, and good luck Joel and Dante.. We still love ya!!

    by Blazermaniak on 2/24/2011 2:09 PM
  25. Blazermaniak, shut your racist mouth.

    Cho is from Burma (Myanmar) and probably couldn't go back if he tried because of the murderous military dictatorship that has held that country in a stranglehold for the past 40 years. If you want to educate yourself (I doubt it, but still...) watch Burma VJ: Reporting From a Closed Country.

    Honestly, you make me ashamed to be an American.

    by 500Dogs on 2/24/2011 3:09 PM
  26. Hmm, Last I checked Wallace was 28 years old. Roy is 26, coming up on 27. Don't see how age is much of a factor. Camby is 37, and Miler is 35. That's a big difference.

    I like the trade. I'll miss Dante and Joel, but we got a steal for this one. Really glad we kept Andre and Camby. REALLY glad we kept them.

    by Herr on 2/24/2011 3:49 PM
  27. Dogs: I have to say that laughter is definitely cleansing to the soul, and your posts sometimes bring a belly laugh I was not expecting. Actually I am annoyed with myself that I didn't think of your wittiness first! Cho may indeed not be from China, but if he was, he would originate from a country that holds more American debt than any other country in the world. Who is dumber? The country that sells out to another in debt, or the country who holds controlling interest in another's assets in exchange for a loan? Think about that the next time you shop at Wal mart. As for being ashamed to be an American? I know what you said is to make a point, but if you knew the depth of deceit that this country operates under, than you might reconsider shifting your comments from sarcastic to patriotic. Thomas Jefferson said the following," When the people fear their government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty."

    by Phi Slamma on 2/24/2011 4:32 PM
  28. Phi,
    I'm ashamed of the low premium we as a nation put on education and the fact that someone like Blazermaniak would feel comfortable spewing his bigoted "go back to the place that your race is from" BS on a public forum, made especially shameful by the mistaken country (all Asians are not Chinese, fool).

    Chinese/American foreign policy is a topic for another day, but I'll just say that I do not, have not, and will never shop at WalMart. That company is wicked, evil, and should be the first against the wall when the revolution comes.

    by 500Dogs on 2/24/2011 4:50 PM
  29. ):

    by Phi Slamma on 2/24/2011 5:02 PM
  30. Aw, rotate that frown counter-clockwise, Phi.

    On another topic, a friend and I invented an emoticon for the type of sadness that leads to stabbing yourself in the heart twice. We call it The Smith.


    Too soon?

    by 500Dogs on 2/24/2011 5:11 PM
  31. :( Good call my man!

    by Phi Slamma on 2/24/2011 5:15 PM
  32. Aaaaahahaha... My wife east Indian...

    Good times cutie

    Go blazers

    by Blazermaniak on 2/24/2011 6:24 PM
  33. And what does she think of your comment?

    by 500Dogs on 2/24/2011 6:40 PM
  34. Blazermaniak: You were the first to post on this blog and your points are valid.
    At one time I was a member of a martial arts school which promoted "selling" points in a sparring contest. This required shaking your fist in the air and yelling obnoxiously in the referee's direction in order to draw attention to the fact that you scored a point in the contest. I could never allow myself to "beg" in this manner, and consequently would rather lose a match than fall to my knees in hopes of gaining a favorable outcome. If L.A. or anyone else on the team cannot bring themselves to such levels of humility, I can only applaud their sense of decency and humanity, and see contradictory acts as a desperate attempt on the part of those who are clinging to a dream or trying to live up to the expectations of the uninformed. It must be a tremendous burden on those who feel they must carry the weight of the world's expectations on their shoulders. For all those who wish to be like Mike, or like Kobe, I wouldn't wish such a thing on my worst enemy.

    by Phi Slamma on 2/24/2011 6:52 PM
  35. New at this.. But with the trade I just couldn't keep QUIET. Loyal warriors like JOEL should have the loyalty from the front office. They did this last year with Steve and Outlaw but this is just too much.


    by VLM4good on 2/24/2011 7:13 PM
  36. VL you are full of hogwash. You trade for the betterment of the team. there is no such thing as loyalty and homerism on this sight LMAO.

    Hey everybody VL is my wife and I was teaching her how to put her thoughts down on a blog. She is a triffle up set because we traded Joe. Me too, if we can't get him back


    by Hg on 2/24/2011 7:07 PM
  37. Awww HG beat me to it. But since Im already here I will say this. THANK YOU Joel for the wonderful years in Portland. Yes he has been a very loyal player for this organization. It would have been nice to see Pryz play his last year/years here. Hes one of my favs, and I will appluad him whenever Im at the RG and he is playing against us.

    With that being said though...This could have been his last year, possible rumors of retirement has been floating. I also do not think the Blazers were planning to resign Joel. I think hes getting towards end of his career for a 7 footer, maybe year or 2 left. I really think we get alot with Gerald Wallace, and the blazers did what they figured they had to do. But we really need need a healthy true center badly. Let us hope Mr. Oden becomes half the player he was dreamed up to be, and stay healthy. Interesting couple years ago our team was made up of nothing but 19-23 year olds and Joel was are oldest guy. Good Luck Joel...and Go Blazers.

    by whitefeather21380 on 2/24/2011 7:16 PM
  38. Thanks HG but the front office expects loyalty from all the players. So at the same time the players need to be able to rely on loyalty from the front office. HG says it is best for the team "BUT" until sometime down the road we will not know that is true or not.


    by VLM4good on 2/24/2011 7:17 PM
  39. whitefeather21380:

    True Joel is on his way out, but you can't have too many big guys. I was thinking on the buy out wait 30 days and sign him back on a reduced salery because he is a big up grade over Marks and he would rather be 3rd string Center for the Blazers then to retire. He can have his cake and eat it too.

    I really think Wallace was a good trade, I am just torn between my homerism and knowledge that this was an important move for the betterment of the team. As VL said there is no guarantee that GW will help the team, but we don't know if Joel will get to be 100%. But as a 3rd string center with Camby and Oden injuries, he may get more time then he bargained for.

    IMO, Greg is more then what he is hyped to be. As Mike Rice said tonight, can you imagine a line-up of Dre, Wesley, G Wallace, LMA and Greg with fillers of BRoy, Batum, Rudy, Mills and Camby. Just Wow!!!


    by Hg on 2/24/2011 7:32 PM
  40. VLM,

    Just look at it this way, Joel is only 80% right now so he can play that way on another team and then this summer when he's 100% we can resign him. :)

    Really, they might buy him out and we could have him back sooner than you think.

    Btw, be careful of that Hg, he's mean and cruel!!

    by mgb on 2/24/2011 8:07 PM
  41. The trade was a good deal but it makes me sick. Joel Pryzbilla has been my favorite players since he's arrived. The guy is the consummate professional of basketball. I'm gonna miss his fire, hard work, and leadership. Now I have to think of a new favorite player. It won't be easy.

    Go Blazers!

    by thedanman on 2/24/2011 8:45 PM
  42. @thedanman;

    Join the wait and see program with me, We have two roster spots open now, let's wait and see who can fill them.

    Owners or GM's can't make comments about players under contract. Joe. and Ford are still under contract. Cho said in a couple of days they might look to fill the spots. So join me in the hopes that Joel is bought out and joins us in 30 days. that is the waiting time.

    by Hg on 2/24/2011 8:53 PM
  43. What about the games to be played in the next 30 days. Don't they count for anything. if, if, if... Yes the game is made up of if's but why mess around with the line up in the afternoon of the season. And Yes it would be nice to get a good player but what if the cost is too high.


    by VLM4good on 2/24/2011 10:19 PM
  44. Hey...if we get Joel back in 30 days, fine with me :) win win for us. Wallace can help this team, hes a in your face defender like mathews, very athletic..little reckless..just leaves it all out on the court, was all star last year. Hoping to see more of Roy, he didnt do alot of damage offensively, but he was able to still draw the laker defense in and get some looks for other blazers.

    Denver just beat boston, so ouch...lets get a win over them tommorro. Barkley doesnt think we can get the 5th seed, He always seems to have chip on his shoulder towards Portland. We have a very tough schedule coming up. nothing but play off teams except Memphis if i remember correctly.

    by whitefeather21380 on 2/24/2011 10:23 PM
  45. Barkley is a idiot.

    Here's a good video that talks about our trade:


    by mgb on 2/24/2011 10:34 PM
  46. Anybody else impressed with Wesley's D? Was crazy, he was on Kobe like glue. Never seen that before, it was nice.

    by Olallie on 2/25/2011 2:30 AM
  47. I sure as hell well was. That's the stingy kind of defense we'll need in the playoffs. Matthews got under Kobe's skin. Now we have a similar defender in Wallace. I'm predicting more fast breaks in the near future.

    Cho pulled off a good one. A real good one!

    Go Blazers!

    by thedanman on 2/25/2011 4:22 AM
  48. The way I see it is we are getting Camby back soon, maybe as soon as tonight; we have BRoy back and will be OK as an added player and depth; he doesn't even have to be his former self; just be a consistent scorer, either from the perimeter or Dre type lay-ups. He will get better at posting up which may be his new bread and butter. Then on top of that, we have a proven scorer and great defensive player in Crash. This is almost like acquiraing three new players with experience and dependablility added to our already overly zealious core players of LMA, Wesley, Batum and Dre. It may not be all at once, but anyway I look at it we will get better. We now know we can play against the Lakers, the SAS, the Mavericks, NOH, and the OKCs. We didn't beat all those teams, but we were in the race until the end where anybody could make that last shot with Portland just getting much better.Lets prove tonight we can play against Denver and thier new team. They sitill have Néne and if Camby doesn't play could be scary, but we can take them.

    The race is on and there is some heart ache, in losing Joel, and fear of not having enough bigs, but this is a great team with some great added parts that has proven to blend with our Al-star LMA and our core players.

    by Hg on 2/25/2011 4:54 AM
  49. I will really miss Dante. He's a young, hard working guy with a great motor who was completely happy doing what he was doing here. I understand the sacrifice, but it was the one part of this deal I didn't like. I will also miss Joel, but I think almost everyone, including Joel, knew his days were limited. Even if we pick him back up in 30 days, or he plays out the season with the Bobcats, I feel confident he is probably done when the season ends anyway. He's mentioned it several times anyway.

    Wallace, as long as he stays healthy, is going to be a SUPER addition to this team. I liked the potential Dre-Harris trade that didn't happen, but I like this acquisition even more. At least, I will once we get another Big! Jeez, seems pretty darned risky to trade away all your Centers, when your last one still isn't playing.

    Anyone catch the starters tonight? LA, Batum, Wesley, Rudy, and Dre. Yeah, Batum says he will be guarding Nene, lol! THAT will be interesting. At least Kenyon didn't make the trip, but still, this will probably be a tough game. Denver didn't lose nearly as much as people seem to think. Everyone seems to be playing way more loose and they still have a great coach. However, they are on the road on the second night of a back-to-back, so that might balance out our lack of frontcourt :)

    I think Brandon is going to be really, really good tonight btw.


    by SisillaRiann on 2/25/2011 12:08 PM
  50. EowynAmarie: I have been waiting for you post all day. I didn't know how you felt about the trade, I like anything that will make us better. I have the title of the biggest homer that you took away from me last year but apparently I got it back. So I was very sad to see joel and Dante go. My thoughts that we could sign Joel to veteran minimum and he could play as long as he felt like it as our third string center. I am still hoping but I think you are probably right.

    LMA refuses the title of center so they listed Batum as center and LMA as PF although LMA will be in the center spot. Was Batum guarding Néne a joke or is that for real. I love Batum, but I love him in one piece LOL.

    I agree with you on Denver, sometimes a team plays better as a team when the Star is gone as we well know. So, I don't think they will be easy at all. In fact our lack of bigs scares me a little. Do think Babbit will get some quality minutes tonight because Gerald Wallace can't play yet?

    I think they are still going to keep BRoy's minutes minimal tonight. As far as playing 8 minutes a half isn't hardly time to warm up before you sit down again. So, I hope you are right that he will be really really good. I wished Camby would play and be very, very good.


    by Hg on 2/25/2011 3:36 PM
  51. Here's the new rotation as I see it...

    PG: Miller/Roy/Fernandez
    SG: Mathews/Roy/Fernandez
    SF: Batum/Wallace
    PF: Aldridge/Wallace
    C: Camby/Aldridge

    DNPCD: Johnson/Babbitt/Mills
    Injured: Oden/Williams

    I like this rotation because it allows them to stay big at every position but backup PF and backup C. I imagine the first sub in would be Wallace for Camby, followed by Roy for Miller or Mathews. I want Batum and Wallace on the floor together as much as possible, but I want Nico to start because…
    a) He’s the long term answer at that position.
    b) Crash’s MPG should be reduced to keep him healthy.
    c) Batum’s a better shooter.

    by 500Dogs on 2/25/2011 4:35 PM
  52. If we go 3 deep at every position, the minutes might shake out like so...

    PG: Miller (32), Rudy (11), Roy (5)
    SG: Matthews (30), Roy (10), Rudy (8)
    SF: Batum (32), Wallace (11), Mathews (5)
    PF: Aldridge (22), Wallace (22), Batum (4)
    C: Camby (28), Aldridge (18), Wallace (2)

    That’s a couple more MPG for Mathews and Batum, a couple less for Rudy and Wallace, no change for Miller, Camby and Aldridge, and a new role for Roy.

    by 500Dogs on 2/25/2011 6:27 PM
  53. 500dogs:

    In speculation of getting Ford if he is bought out, and we get him,
    would put him in as a PG back-up, If Joel is bought out. and we get him he would be Back-up center, which would give LMA some needed lesser minutes and in all less dependent on BRoy.

    If you think about the possibilities, of getting Ford,we will have the experience back-up PG, we got GW, the aggressive back-up PF and SF that everybody talks about, and if we get Joel back we will have the back-up center to take PT from LMA that he needs. That surely sounds good to me.

    by Hg on 2/26/2011 8:10 AM
  54. We are going to need to get another big before Joel will be available. Might be just a d leaguer, but we can't sign Joel until 30 days after he clears waivers.

    Excellent win last nite! Great second game by Roy! LA was his usual self and Miller what can you say? I almost was hoping the game would go into double OT just so he could get his triple double. :)

    by mgb on 2/26/2011 8:25 AM
  55. MGB:

    If Camby can stay healthy, we should be OK, but giving a D league a 10 day contract would sure help. Betting Wallace although he is short, plays big, and gets rebounds from what I read, so that will help. It is possible as you told VL that we may not get Joel back until the end of the year.

    BTW, I am only mean and cruel to you because you live 150 miles away and I have some neat hiding places LOL.

    Long short, with the return of Camby soon, and the signing of BWallace, I am excited about the remainder of the year regardless of the things with Joel that we cannot control. And, I am still in the camp of GO returning next year; with what we have now, and getting GO and maybe Joel back, with the hopes of getting Ford as a experienced back-up PG, I have very high hopes. When I am happy I am not so mean and cruel LOL.


    by Hg on 2/26/2011 9:51 AM
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