Nov 11

Q and A with Brandon Roy

By mikebarrett
This latest road trip is underway.  Given the fact that Brandon Roy's knee has become just about the only topic of conversation in Blazernation, it's time to address it.  I always feel a straight question-and-answer interview is the best way to get to the bottom of things. 

After arriving in Oklahoma City on Thursday afternoon, the Trail Blazers practiced.  After practice we grabbed Brandon and headed for his hotel room.  We shot a one-on-one interview that will be shown during halftime of Friday night's game against the Thunder.  Then, the entire interview (including what gets cut due to time constraints on TV) will be posted on trailblazers.tv

But, rather than wait until then, I decided to type the interview into the laptop and post it on this blog.  Hopefully it's informational, interesting, and helps answer a few lingering questions as we head into another difficult trip.

MB:  Odd season so far.  It seems like there’s been a lot of drama already.  Given all of the injuries and whatnot, and the difficult start to the schedule, how has it felt?

Roy:   It has felt strange, because we’re only nine games in and it feels like we’ve dealt with a lot.  Not to harp on some of the things that have happened in the past.  I think this team is coming together.  We’ve got a really deep team and we feel like once the season settles maybe some of that drama will continue to flow out a little bit.

MB:   Odd start with playing that first game at home, and then going east for four.  Does the schedule bother you guys at all, or do you just play the games in front of you and not worry about it.

Roy:  We pay attention to it, but at the same time there’s nothing you can do about it.  You just play whatever team is in front of you.  But, it was strange to play your home opener, and then go from L.A. to New York on the same road trip.  We were successful on it.  I think the reason why is that we just focused in on the games and not the schedule and the travel.  That’s part of maturing.  We’re more mature guys, a little older.  Just not making excuses and just going out to play.

MB:  A couple of things involving you have blown up pretty good.  Have they been blown out of proportion?  First of all, you saying during the preseason that you’d like the ball a little more, that ‘I’d like it to go through me a little more,’ and then this situation involving your knee.  Has this stuff been overplayed a little bit?

Roy:  I’ve been noticing a lot of things getting a little more attention than maybe I thought they would when I said them.  But, about wanting the ball more, I just wanted to be more of a facilitator.  I thought I could help create more offense for this team.  It was never meant to be taken in a bad way.  I think that I can help this team with the ball more.  It wasn’t to shoot more.  It was never to say that I want to go out and shoot more.  But, with the knee, it’s just a situation where my minutes were really high there.  Me and coach talked about my minutes in July during the summer time.  He said you know I really want to keep you at 35-36 minutes this year.  When they started to get into the 40 range, I just wanted to remind him about it.  My knee is something that we’ve kind of had to deal with for a couple of years here.  It’s just trying to keep me healthy.  We feel like this is the best way to keep me strong throughout an 82-game season. 

MB:  Has it limited you at all?  Have there been things you’ve tried to do and couldn’t do?  Because the implication is that all of a sudden you’re a different player.

Roy:  I wouldn’t say I’m a different player.  With any injury you have to somewhat adjust your game.  I’ve been trying to pick my spots out there on the court.  Not just for my knees, but for my overall health.  The first conversation I ever had with Clyde Drexler, he said, “man, you’re a good player, but you’re attacking that basket too much.”  He said “work on your pull-up jumper a little bit more and take some of that wear and tear off your body.”  I just try and remember those things that veterans have said to me in the past, and I’m trying to add those into my game.  My thing is I’m always going to try and give 110 percent out there to help this team win.  I don’t want to put the concentration on my knee.  I’d rather it be on this team, and we’re 6-3 right now.

MB:  You’ve had some good games so far- the 29 at New York, and 26 the other night against Toronto.  It’s not like we’ve seen drastically different results from you so far. 

Roy:  Yeah.  The biggest thing is, I’ve been able to adjust throughout my career.  Whether it’s been in college coming off the bench, or in the NBA dealing with an ankle injury or a hamstring.  You just have to adjust out on the court.  The knee will hopefully calm down.  I think it’s just flared up.  After talking to the doctor, he was like “you seem to come to me every year during the first month of the season to talk about this.”  Then it settles down.  That’s where we’re hoping it goes, that it settles down and I go back to playing my normal ways.

MB:  That’s where this schedule comes in.  You play five games in seven nights in the second week of the season.  It’s very early in the season.  You’ve been a guy who’s gotten stronger as the season has gone on.  Is it a process of getting up to speed, and almost breaking your body in a little bit?

Roy:  Yeah, I think so.  You know I was a four-year guy, and I’m not really a rookie anymore where you just come in your body is ready.  I remember early in my career watching San Antonio, and some of those teams, and it always seemed that they started picking it up as the season went along.  They didn’t necessarily come in right away.  So, I’m noticing that with my body.  It’s taking me a little more time to break in.  But, we don’t decide the schedule.  I think right now, we’ve played a lot of games early and we wanted to win those games.  So, me and LaMarcus played a lot of minutes.  As the schedule will begins to balance out we’ll look stronger and hopefully I’ll look stronger.

MB:  So, is your knee a huge concern to you, maybe more than it’s been in the past, right now?  Or, is this just business as usual for you?

Roy:  I would say I’m slightly more concerned, but not where it’s like ‘oh no, what about the rest of the season….’    It’s just a concern that I have, and most of that is because we just played five games in seven nights and I was averaging 41 minutes.  I don’t think I’ve ever done that in the NBA.  So, some of that is.. once the schedule calms down and we get a couple more days off between games, then I think things will hopefully go back to normal. 

MB:  And to come through that stretch and be in first place in the Northwest Division..  all things considered, that’s pretty good.  It’s been overshadowed, but that’s pretty good.

Roy:  I do think it’s been overshadowed, to the public anyway.  But, to this team, all we talk about is where we want to be in the standings.  We’re not sitting around saying ‘Brandon, how’s your knee?’  The focus is on this team and getting better.  That’s where, with our fans, I hope we keep the focus on this team.  We’ve got a really good team.  It may not be Brandon Roy averaging 23 points, but we’ve got a really good team.  I think we can really be successful.

MB:  But, you’re at 20 points per game..

Roy:  Yeah, (laughing) that’s still pretty good.  I think LaMarcus will continue to emerge, and I think with my minutes going down a bit it’ll be able to get Rudy more involved.  I feel he can really help us.  Wesley Matthews getting more minutes, and Nicolas is playing better.  So, the goal is continue to be an all-around team, and I feel like that’s going to be good for us.

MB:  So, you guys as a team have more options. And individual players’ games evolve depending on who’s around them.  Is that kind of how you feel?

Roy:  Yeah.  I think we’ve all had to adjust.  I’ve had to adjust. And, not just because of my knee, but because of the talent we’ve got around.  With Dre’ coming in and providing some of the stuff he does, I don’t have to do that as much.  Then with Nicolas, I think he’s scoring the ball more, and playing defense.  So, we’ve got guys who have just continued to get better and better, and I want the focus to be on that and not singling out individual players for maybe not doing as much as they’ve done in the past, because we don’t necessarily have to.

MB:  And, you know that going in each night the opposing defenses are all focused on you, and you get the toughest defender.  A lot was made of the Laker game, and the fact that Ron Artest had success against you. 

Roy:  Even though people may say this or that about my knee, there are still a lot of possessions where if I don’t have the ball I can create offense.  Guys are still double-teaming, and game plans are still set to take myself and LaMarcus out.  As long as we can still command double teams we’re still pretty good.  Every coach wants players who command double teams because that makes it easier on the team.  I know I can still go out there and make plays to help this team.

MB:  So, in the short term, you don’t predict any huge changes to your minutes or your game than what we’ve seen lately?

Roy:  No.  And, when we went to the minutes we were saying let’s go from 41 to 35, in that range.  I think everybody maybe panicked a little bit.  Then, the 20 minutes I played in the last game maybe scared everybody. But, I could have played more than 20 minutes.  I could have played 40 minutes.  The key is to get that average at about 35 throughout the year.

MB:  Thanks Brandon.

Roy:  Thank you.

Again, the interview can be seen at halftime of Friday's game at Oklahoma City.  The complete interview can be seen, after the game, on trailblazers.tv.



  1. Mike: You should get a star for this one.

    Great job my man:

    Over at BE and OR-live the comments are going wild. Maybe this will calm the storm.

    I had read quite a bit earlier, that the plan was to start BRoy slow and keep him somewhat grounded at the first of the year then let him come into his full game about All-star break. If we can continue to win at this rate, that should be no problem. Therefore it wasn't a surprise to me that BRoy wasn't elevating like normal.

    You answered many of my questions, I thank you kind Sir;

    BTW, I went to watch the game after I wrote in your last blog and was pleasantly surprised that it was you and the wild one that was doing the announcing on the NBA package. I hope that comes more often.

    This information will help me before the game, and I will try not to worry so much. I really think we will take OKC. For more reason's then revenge, We will just out play them and remember what happens when you don't block out.

    by Hg on 11/11/2010 9:51 PM
  2. Well done Mike. Thank you for this interview sir.

    To Brandon Roy: Thank you for the interview as well, its very nice to see a player step up and be upfront with the fans on whats going on. Listening to guys like Clyde Drexler, can never be bad idea. I never thought you changed as a player, your heart is in the right place, your goal is to win. Your basketball iq is amazing and you have a huge gift for this game. I do hope that your knee settles down. Personally I dont have a issue with you having the ball more,either you get more buckets, or you open plays for your team mates. It is a win win. It takes a team to win a game, but you are the face of this team. In BlazerNation eyes, you are our Kobe-Lebron. When the game is on the line, we either live or die by your last basket, and its as simple as that. Keep your head up Brandon, Blazer fans have your back, just take care of that body of yours. Thank you

    by whitefeather21380 on 11/11/2010 9:59 PM
  3. Thanks for the preview, MB!

    by 500Dogs on 11/11/2010 10:07 PM
  4. Mr. Barrett:
    First, thank you very much for posting the ENTIRE interview, instead of just little chunks that you could in turn manipulate into backing up whatever your position/opinion might be. Context is an excellent thing :)
    Second, I am not sure you saw it, but near the bottom of the last blog, it appears you have not made someone very happy. You just might want to check it out, if you have not already. I think a mistake was made, and I am sure you would be interested in correcting it.

    Brandon sounds like he is saying exactly what I have been thinking is probably the case. I am glad to see what he has to say, in it's entirety. Why is it that only Mike Barrett and Dave seem capable of posting the WHOLE interview? Oh, wait, that's right....Integrity. I cannot say my concern about Brandon's knee is entirely alleviated, since he also seems a tad more concerned, but I share his sentiment that even if it's not okay, it doesn't mean the ship is sinking. As I have already said, it's not as if a 20-point a night guy is something to just go "pooh, pooh" at! Especially if the guys around that guy are steadily improving and aren't at their ceilings yet :)

    I follow KD on twitter, cause I think he's just a great guy, and I know he is getting ready for us. Their last win wasn't exactly easy, and I think they will be determined, but there is definitely weakness. The sophmore slump is not an abberation, at least, not at this point.

    Btw, anyone catch the lovely thrumping the Celtics gave the Heat tonight? Ahh.....so good to see my predictions for a Heat team with several difficulties coming to fruition. My only regret is Juwan and D-Wade...oh well. I know it's worse around here than liking Denver, but man, I love me some Celtic basketball! They can PLAY! The Warriors lost, but did so to the Bulls, who honestly needed another meaningful win. It looks like the Nuggies may get the Lakers.....which seems fitting in some way. If it wasn't us, I figured it would be them :) If they do lose though, guess what that means? Coach Monty's Hornets are the ONLY undefeated team in the league! Wow, what an accomplishment :) Wish they weren't in the Western Conference, lol!

    by EowynAmarie on 11/11/2010 10:16 PM
  5. I'd watch the interview but can't as we don't get comcast here in the country, so thanks for posting it.

    by Ground Bound on 11/11/2010 10:49 PM
  6. Anyone else notice how Paul Pierce looks like a turtle? Lol sorry, just saw his tweet about mocking LBJ. Anyways, very nice to see the Lakers lose today, even if it's against the Thuggets. Oh well, you can't always win.

    Nice to read this interview, and get the word from Roy himself. Very nicely done Mike. It shows that Roy is maturing mentally, and the only thing slowing him down is physically.

    35 minutes still seems like a lot, but he is our franchise player, so I guess we expect him to play that much.

    Tomorrow we got a game to prove. We also got a chance at ending the ONLY undefeated team's streak. We also get to take on Memphis, who are playing the Celtics next. They'll either be pumped after a win or annoyed with a loss. The Grizzlies gave us hell last year. Time to repay the favor.

    by Herr on 11/11/2010 11:17 PM
  7. MB,

    Thanks for the interview! I'm more visual then audio so I like to be able to read interviews.

    Only question I might have ask is if he thinks he might have to have surgery? Most likely he doesn't know yet, but if his knee doesn't settle down from resting that is probably a option. Hopefully with rest it does settle down.

    Look forward to the game tonite!


    by mgb on 11/11/2010 11:49 PM
  8. Oh, btw, for the first time I got a email notifying me that you posted a new blog. Excellent!

    by mgb on 11/11/2010 11:50 PM
  9. mb,

    thank you.

    a MAJOR part of my admiration for brandon roy comes from the fact that he seems very thoughtful and is a guy that has substance.

    something that i wanted to share on the blog was a bit of perspective. last summer, b-roy didn't play much basketball, rested his body to some degree and caught all kinds of grief for not being sharp when the season started. this season, he came in in top notch shape and is having some problems with one of his knees, and is catching all kinds of grief for it.

    i'd just like to offer my simple support. if he plays ok, sits out, plays great, has surgery, or whatever happens, i'm a brandon roy backer.

    i'll be on to focusing on the games against okc, n.o., memphis, denver, utah and the rest.

    by reverse on 11/11/2010 11:54 PM
  10. Vinnie - Thanks for the tickets once again. Mom really enjoyed the game, and it was obviously a good game to attend. I sent you some pics in your email.

    Kassandra - As I said above it was a good game for her to attend, with the abuse the Blazers handed the Pistons. She enjoyed it, lots of smiles.

    MB - We got mom down to the floor with some substantial effort, but the security guy would not let either of us approach you, I spent most of the game making my way through supervisors trying to get a message to you to see if mom could meet you after the game. At the top of the chain was a lady that said if you really had an interest in talking to mom you would have sent us a pass. I even ran into Jerome Kersey just outside of moms seating area and he would'nt take a sec to say Hi to her. You said in a earlier blog comment that you would make it a night mom would never forget, and I must say you've done that. She will probably never forget the game where you had her hopes sky high and let her down.

    To sum up,
    between the Blazers Management, the commentators, and even Jerome, none of you seem willing to show any kind of appreciation for a woman that has been a loyal follower to the extreme for 40 years. I am disgusted, and although mom holds strong in her loyalty, I for one am no longer a Blazer fan.

    by hdallmon on 11/11/2010 11:55 PM
  11. a curiosity i'll float...

    we've batted about ideas about getting a 4/5 guy on the roster, and people have their favorites.

    what would folks here think of the idea of adding kevin love to the roster?

    he made a reference to playing for l.a. or portland after a recent game.

    given that he'd accept a reduced role, do you think it would work?

    by reverse on 11/11/2010 11:58 PM
  12. against okc

    they are already without nick collison

    it seems that jeff green could be out, or coming back after missing 2 games with an ankle injury.

    if green is out, the thunder have only krstic, ibaka & aldrich in the front court. as much as is possible, they should attack the basket. if they can put ibaka in foul trouble, it could pay off huge.

    attack the rim. attack the paint. win on the boards. take one back.

    i'm looking for a big game from the blazers!

    silence the thunder

    by reverse on 11/12/2010 12:07 AM
  13. hdallmon,

    MB left you a reply on the last blog.

    by mgb on 11/12/2010 12:09 AM
  14. hdallmon,

    I responded to you comment in the last blog... I'm sorry that happened to you at the game. Fans are always coming down after games so I'm surprised it was an issue. I figured that would work and don't know why you weren't allowed down. Jerome is a great guy, and I'm sure he didn't intend to avoid a conversation. You know that I would have been happy to take the time to meet you guys if I had been given the opportunity. I can't control the security situation, but again, am surprised you guys weren't allowed down. I'll certainly make it up to her if given the opportunity. Let me know.


    by mikebarrett on 11/12/2010 12:09 AM
  15. Thats a nice offer Mike, but I have no intention of getting her hopes up again. I'm afraid I will have to decline. At this point I think it's better to just let her continue to be a loyal fan and not push the disappointment level.

    by hdallmon on 11/12/2010 12:13 AM
  16. MGB:

    I too got a message that a new blog was out. that was great. also after a week of not having any post notification on my e-mail, it finally started working again.


    I wouldn't mind Kevin Love at all, home grown and all. If he wasn't worried about playing time it would be great. Isn't his fight with Rambhus about playing time? Of course it would depend on who we had to sacrifice, since he is not a center.

    by Hg on 11/12/2010 1:12 AM
  17. Hah! Turns out my stream of bad luck continues. Serious question, anyone that could answer would help me a lot, otherwise I could go homeless.

    I need a job, any job, and I will work fulltime. Posting here shows how much I could use one. I could make a resume and send it to anyone that could give me one.

    Long story short, I've been having a crappy... year. About a year ago my "brother" (the type of friend thats like a brother) had to move out when we had a good lifestyle going (not the homosexual way, we just had everything we wanted). Ever since then the ball kept dropping. Lost my grandmother about 3 weeks ago. Lost one of my friends about 3 months ago. Had a job starting in october, which got moved back to march. And got kicked out of my house because my mother and I don't get along at all. So I moved to a bros again. Turns out he's decided to play "i'm stupid and rush decisions that are big deals". So he's moving to vancouver to live with some hotshots, while taking a sweet little puppy (his) that I've been watching for ages.

    So, right now, I've basically emotionally, mentally, and physically hit rockbottom. Only thing I have to keep moving forward is knowing things will get better... in the span of 5-6 months. Lovely isn't it. My email is stephenpherr@yahoo.com. I'm normally around the tualatin area but can get about anywhere in the portland metro.

    Sorry to bring my troubles here, but, honestly, I could use some help, and I'm trying everything.

    by Herr on 11/12/2010 1:49 AM
  18. Wow! After reading all of the stories from the media recently on Roy I thought he was really hurting. Then after reading this interview I feel alot better. Jason Quick and the local media need to quite this"the sky is falling", drama journalism and get the facts right the first time. I really feel that bringing down Roys minutes will be a real blessing in disquise. I think Brandon is realizing that he can't do it all by himself and he will get everyone involved in the game and quit the ISO's that have been slowing down our offense. Great Interview! I really brings us up to speed with this whole situation. Thanks Mike

    by Gavinfan on 11/12/2010 4:49 AM
  19. Thanks Mike, good interview.

    I gave you 4 stars :-)

    by Anees on 11/12/2010 10:12 AM
  20. I think that as fans we're used to players who take on the Iron Warrior persona, who present themselves as the tough guy who pushes himself regardless of pain, who will lie about the extent of an injury just to stay out on the court. We saw too much of that in the playoffs against Phoenix last year. Brandon's ridiculously early return after surgery gave us a one-game emotional lift, and everyone was too embarrassed to point out that his presence at half strength hurt the team in the games that followed. But that gung-ho mentality is still the norm, and I wouldn't be surprised if there were grumblings about Greg Oden, people claiming he's a big softy for waiting until his knee is pain-free before coming back. So I'm encouraged by Brandon's honesty in admitting that he needs to take care of his body. On the other hand, a player has plenty of motivation for underplaying, or even denying to himself, how much an injury has weakened his game. Whether Brandon is passing up drives to the hoop to spare his body for the long haul or simply lacks the strength and quickness to beat his man the way he once did, the result is the same: a reduction in points in the paint, fewer open threes for Nicolas or Wesley or Rudy when the defense collapses on a driving Roy, more long rebounds and opponent fast breaks when Brandon misses a jumper. So what heartens me most about the interview is the part where he talks about building the roles of the other players on the team. That's we'll need if Brandon is out there less and and is able to do less than we've come to expect. What the team does NOT need to do is say "He's our horse" and ride him hard, laying on the whip when he falters, until Brandon completely breaks down.

    by Islander on 11/12/2010 11:12 AM
  21. good news:


    green won't play

    rebound and attack the hoop!

    by reverse on 11/12/2010 11:46 AM
  22. TravisD:

    thank you for the link. I am not sure it is good news, It seems to me that LaMarcus was having his way with Green. and Ibaka coming into the game forced LaMarcus out of his comfort zone. But, I am hoping you are right. I feel we can beat them anyway, just being easier would be nice. Like you said earlier maybe we can get Ibeka in foul trouble. OTOH, we are playing at OKC and we definitely need to keep LaMarcus and Camby out of foul trouble.

    by Hg on 11/12/2010 12:13 PM
  23. MB you are the man !! Thank you barely covers it. Hopefully Roy ( and the entire team ) will learn not to talk to Jason " the sky is falling Quick ".

    Bring on OKC !!

    Let's Go Blazers !!!!

    by Kim~ on 11/12/2010 12:15 PM
  24. MB - thank you, thank you, thank you for continuing to be the voice of reason regarding our beloved Trail Blazers! Great interview and BRoy thank you for addressing us with your heart every time you speak - granted sometimes things get messed up in the translation to the general public but your honest approach every single time is refreshing.

    hdallman - you know MB is not how you portrayed him! We can all feel your disappointment with regards to your Mom but if she is willing to continue being a loyal fan you could try that as well.

    by Suzy-Q on 11/12/2010 12:29 PM
  25. Thanks to for posting this interview. I have no possibility to watch any american tv here in europe. I get all the important information about the Blazers here on this site. So posting such intersting interviews is very important to trailblazerfans from the rest of the world. Thanks a lot!

    by Wanderer on 11/12/2010 12:38 PM
  26. MB doesn't afraid of anything

    by Tiki Kienle on 11/12/2010 1:41 PM
  27. Mb ,thanx for the very candid interview.And thanx to BRoy who has always been a class act when it comes to talking to the press.
    My first game I had problems getting to talk to you because of security,second one too, but I did catch you cause I'm VERY persistent.Thanks for responding to hdallmon so quickly.Much appreciated.

    by DowntownVinnie on 11/12/2010 3:50 PM
  28. Thanks MB- Great interview! I appreciate BRoy doing the interview and being is usual open tell it like it is person. I think it is too bad that things get talked about to death and makes them bigger than they are and the big picture gets lost. We have a great record- our guys are playing hard and doing great things. How quickly we forget what matters most. I love that Brandon tells it how he sees it and continues to do so even though his coments get taking out of context sometimes.

    Keep up the good work and tell BRoy to hang in there!

    by RedRudy5 on 11/12/2010 4:02 PM
  29. joey harrington called in to the john lund show today

    as john lund was about to run a number on greg oden, joey called in and got pretty real with lund. if it is available on podcast, do yourself the favor. harrington compared himself to oden; both being drafted high and having huge expectations. joey pointed out that it can take 4-5 years to learn to thrive in that situation. i really hope that joey harrington has a face to face with greg to tell him much of what he said on the radio today.

    thanks to joey for sparing everyone (greg most especially) another session of being drug through the mud.

    by reverse on 11/12/2010 4:46 PM
  30. Was going to go comment at OKC, but realized they are from........ OKLAHOMA. a lot of them famiies is intertwined, if ya know what I mean.
    People from Arkansas think okies are hicks.That should tell you something.

    by DowntownVinnie on 11/12/2010 4:55 PM
  31. marcus should be able to exploit nenad krstic tonight. camby may not have 30 and 13 again, but he should have a big game.

    without jeff green, the thunder front court will be thin, and they will lack scoring punch. aldridge will be ready for them.

    the bench needs to try to create offense going to the rim with dante & wesley. jump shots rarely win you one on the road.

    by reverse on 11/12/2010 5:04 PM
  32. another word on john lund

    his routine is already tired with me. his patient antagonist, "i'm no expert but..." killjoy-type methods have me mixing up my listening habits. much as to how i used to listen to kenny vance, i now listen to lund. listen for when the guests will be on, and then turn down the volume until i hear someone else's voice. i don't listen to the radio to get irritated or have something to be pissed about. i also do not practice my fandom by getting myself off on having some phony self righteous anger or frustration. i think that lund badly misjudges the listeners here. we deserve better than to have some disingenuous provocateur, when most of us are listening to hear about our teams. can they give us something with integrity, perhaps the joey harrington mid-day show?

    by reverse on 11/12/2010 5:15 PM
  33. Tough loss. Rudy had a excellent shot at the end to win, but just a little short. Oh well. Twice now we could have beat the Thunder and let it slip through our fingers. But I do like how we are playing. When the Thunder made their run and got on top we didn't fold we fought right back and did have a chance to win the game. Just to bad we loss at home a game we should have won.

    by mgb on 11/12/2010 9:41 PM
  34. wow

    i'll go back to my comment about the knicks game being so important. they pushed through for a road win, and it is making the difference between a decent record, and a flat start to the season.

    joel will likely be back on thursday, and i think it will make a big difference. westbrook would have seen his backside on the floor at some point if joel were in there. being that this is november, i won't fault anyone too much for not giving the hard foul.

    in late march and early april, if westbrook is going for 25 or more someone needs to put him on the ground. nothing crazy, nothing dirty, just a body to body foul as he drives the lane. that was the difference in these 2 games.

    by reverse on 11/12/2010 10:29 PM
  35. i love basketball.

    i love creative and improvisational plays.

    it truly is the jazz of sport.

    andre miller made an up and under fake early in the 1st quarter that was followed by pass off the backboard to himself that he laid in.


    i love basketball.

    in the moment spontaneous improvisation.

    that play was a thing of beauty.

    by reverse on 11/12/2010 10:50 PM
  36. i won't go off on the refs, but lamarcus was clearly fouled by ibaka on his late/end of game attempt.

    roy also absorbed a lot of contact on his way to the hoop near the end of the game.

    if westbrook or durant had taken those hits on shots near the end of the game, the whistle blows...

    by reverse on 11/12/2010 10:53 PM
  37. correction

    they said joel may be back tuesday, not thursday:


    by reverse on 11/12/2010 10:55 PM
  38. at about 2:30 left, ibaka gets away with a lot of contact against lamarcus. if durant had batum draped over him like that, the whistle would blow.

    same as 1:50 left, as roy goes to the hoop and then the ground, the thunder players make plenty of contact & no whistle.

    where is the reward for the aggressive play, and forcing the issue on offense?

    by reverse on 11/12/2010 11:42 PM
  39. wow #2


    from the article:

    "There's no meniscus left to operate on in Roy's left knee.

    'Nah. None. Not in my right, either,' Roy said Friday."

    whatever they can do to rest him from here on out is warranted. he really shouldn't play much in the summers either. rudy has to stay on the team and stay involved. the team has to find ways to make things work for everyone.

    by reverse on 11/13/2010 12:02 AM
  40. final comments for the evening

    lamarcus looked good taking a few attempts at defending durant.

    marcus should take a crack at kevin in the 4th also.

    this would free nic to try to contain westbrook.

    by reverse on 11/13/2010 12:05 AM
  41. We need to grow some wide butts and learn to block out. Athough Rudy did and Kristic was allowed to come right over the top of him. Rudy played great and Brandon was great. We need a defensive anchor and I agree that Joel can fill a defensive presence that is lacking.

    by Ancientone on 11/13/2010 11:04 AM
  42. Suzy-Q - you came into this situation about 3/4 of the way through. I may seem like a jerk at this point but fankly I don't care. Please understand that I spent months last year trying to get something special done for my mother ( an over-the-top loyal fan of 40 yrs ) during a mere preseason game. contacting all the upper elgins of blazer management. I'm not attacking Mike personally, but rather the Blazer franchise that he is a part of. The same franchise that seems to forget where thier paychecks come from, without fans like my mother there would be no RipCity. The fans that held strong and even defended against the JailBlazers era.

    Cass - I apreciate your advise on taking Mike up on his offer, but understand that there is no surprising mom with a Blazer game as a trip to portland takes months of mental preperation, as well as weeks of physical preperation for her. A six hour trip to portland takes me 9-10 hours with mom. And just to give you an idea, the stairs that she had to conquer just from the 100 level to the floor to see mike has left her feeling guilty because her legs wont let her leave the house to get Vinnie a thank you card for a few days. You should have seen her face when she made it to the bottom and I turned back to tell her we have to go back up without talking to anyone she wanted to meet. I'm not doing that again!

    by hdallmon on 11/13/2010 11:36 AM
  43. Travis,
    "Wow #2" is pretty shocking... No meniscus at all? So it's bone-on-bone (isn't that what some of y'all got bent outta shape about when Marcus posted?).

    Soooo, here's lookin' at you LaMarcus! Time to step up and take over this team.

    I don't care how much everybody wants to downplay Roy's injuries, this is bad. No meniscus? That's like an engine with no oil; the parts will smash into each other until they break. He'll be able to tough it out for a few more seasons, but it's anybody's guess when the crash will happen that he doesn't walk away from. Chris Paul has the same condition, and it was Reason #1 I couldn't get behind any trade bringing him to Portland.

    Then again, I'm not a doctor. I'm curious, does anybody out there have info about how long a player can go without meniscus? Any hero vets still in the game with this condition? All my opinions are based off a long discussion on BEdge, where there seemed to be a few docs present.

    I'm really hoping to be wrong about this, but it's looking like John Wayne is riding off into the sunset.

    PS: Sorry if I came off like Lund there (I've never heard), but this is hard to be optimistic about.

    by 500Dogs on 11/13/2010 11:52 AM
  44. ...from the Quick article...

    ""I could see myself coming in the fold now," Roy said."

    In other words, "No longer leading the pack."

    by 500Dogs on 11/13/2010 12:19 PM
  45. 500,

    no, no lund likeness from you.

    i have a co-worker that if something bothers you here calmly sits there and talks about that thing all day. everyone hates him.

    lund is the same way. instead of talking about the actual game performances he sits there and repeats the bad or worrisome articles and information over and over again. it is effective. i can't stand him, and won't listen, get worked up, or call. that is exactly what he wants.

    as for the team, yes the news about brandon is bad. the good news is that PA, larry miller and crew have their eye on the ball. that is why we have wesley & rudy, and traded bayless. not to mention having andre miller. we as fans get to enjoy having a team, and not just one star player. it may be rough for a while, but they will figure things out... together.

    by reverse on 11/13/2010 1:28 PM
  46. go blazers

    beat the hornets!

    by reverse on 11/13/2010 1:30 PM
  47. ancientone.I agree wholeheartedly.Although Camby is a great rebounder and shot blocker,he isn't a physical presence by any means.

    by DowntownVinnie on 11/13/2010 1:57 PM

    1) Armon Johnson is averaging 3.6 FGs per game, and making 58% of them (80% from distance). By far the best FG% of any Blazer. Followed by...

    2) Dante Cunningham, who is averaging 4.7 attempts, sinking 53%. He's also a 90% foul shooter.

    The caveat with both these guys is the limited minutes they are performing in, allowing a slightly exaggerated statistical result. All the same, it's great to see that the touches these young players get, they make the most of.

    3) Nicolas Batum is probably the best Blazer right now, averaging 10.8 attempts per game, draining 51% of them (an even 40% from three), snagging 4.4 rebounds per game to go along with it. How he sat for most of the 4th quarter last night is beyond me. I'll quote MB and Rice to emphasize my point...

    MB: How do you guard that?
    RICE: With Nicolas Batum.

    ...couldn't agree more, Coach Rice. Sure, Nico got burned as soon as he came in, but the guy had been sitting for more than 10 minutes of game time and was thrown in right after a anemic Roy/LMA duo allowed Durant to heat up.

    Between his consistent, accurate, smooth offense and his smart defense, Nicolas Batum is the hottest player on the team right now. Following his mini slump (against CHI and MIL), Batum has been on fire, shooting 54% (44% treys).

    Compare that with the other starters:
    BRoy: 15.7 attempts, 42% (36% threes)
    Miller: 10.1 attempts, 45% (.09% threes)
    LMA: 15.5 attempts, 46% (50% threes...what?)
    Camby: 6.5 attempts, 46% (hasn't shot a three)

    There you have it. Nico is the best shooter on the team. I think he needs to be averaging 5 more minutes, and 5 more attempts per game.

    by 500Dogs on 11/13/2010 2:48 PM

    by Miller on 11/13/2010 3:03 PM
  50. This team has needed another scorer for the last several seasons. Andre Miller seems to be a rare commodity when it comes to players driving to the basket. I cry foul! Monty Williams Knows our plays. He knows our system. Damn it man, he knows our shortcomings. He is aware that if you shut down Roy, you stifle the entire team. I am all for the Nancy Kerrigan maneuver. A swift club to the knee of Chris Paul, and the "Blades of Glory" victory is thine. I'm not against white spandex. I'm not even opposed to laymen in leotards. I just want to see Wonderdog, wearing something other than his wonder-bra and see- thru panties.

    by Phi Slamma on 11/13/2010 8:09 PM
  51. 500dogs: I agree 100% that Dante and Batman should get more shots. We all know what Batum can do but I feel Dante can give us more than he's been given the minutes to do. He's got above average skills on defense, he's a great finisher on the break, has a deadly mid-range jumper, makes very few mistakes, and is a smart player.

    Armon is coming along fine. I still feel he'll be getting 20 minutes a game by mid-season. Of course, he plays behind Andre Miller who has been the most consistent Blazer so far this season, and the only one who consistently gets to the rim.

    That's gotta change and soon. We're giving up way more easy baskets than we're scoring. Getting Joel back will help solve that...

    by dgpdx on 11/13/2010 9:27 PM
  52. I don't get it....was I the only person paying attention last season when Brandon needed surgery on his right knee? At that time, the information that he had ZERO meniscus in his LEFT KNEE was readily available for anyone who cared to pay attention. This wasn't a secret. Now, his right knee, I distinctly remember reading an article (and no, I DID NOT archive it, so cannot quote it!) that mentioned after the surgery, he would likely have little meniscus in that knee either. It was speculated then that he would be playing bone-on-bone for the rest of his career. The media, AGAIN, is acting like this is NEWS! And so are some of you! You honestly think Brandon and the Blazers haven't been aware of this situation? Again, I WAS AWARE OF IT, so it was NOT A SECRET. It's in the dramatic Quick articles, too. BRANDON HAS NEEDED HIS LEFT KNEE DRAINED THROUGHOUT THE SEASON SINCE THE 2008 SURGERY! Why? Cause there's NO MENISCUS there!

    I realize he got hurt tonight, and I would not even begin to speculate on the nature of it. My guess though is that Brandon is overly concerned about injuring his knee, and so is feeling every little tweak with far more intensity. Remember, the mental side of injuries? The caution that some players have? I expect, unless he did really get a serious injury of some kind (which is of course entirely possible), that over a little bit more time, and the upcoming rest the team will be getting, Brandon will slowly come to realize that he is just going to have pain when he plays. Yes, it's a disappointment and he's way too young, but take a look at KG (who sits with ice on his knees), and don't worry too much just yet.

    I hate to say that I was right, but so far, I have been right. I called the Chicago loss, the second Thunder loss, and this New Orleans loss. Let's hope I was right about the next one :) I hate to admit it, but I honestly am not mad about losing to New Orleans. I want to be, but I am just too happy for Monty. And don't think for one second that some of the Blazers out there tonight weren't thinking the same thing somewhere deep in the bowels of their hearts and minds. If we truly WANTED to beat this team, we could have. They have weaknesses (like rebounding, and not running, and a weaker middle) that we did not exploit. Next time though, I think it will be a far different story :)

    One more thing....for everyone who has been wanting the team to quit relying on Brandon and the ISO plays.....be careful what you wish for....you will likely get it, but not in a way that you expect :)


    by EowynAmarie on 11/13/2010 10:52 PM
  53. no panic here

    the losses
    chicago 5-3, 5-1 at home
    (2) okc 5-3 (should be 4-4)
    l.a. 8-1, 6-0 at home
    n.o. 8-0, 5-0 at home

    the one loss that stings is the home game against okc

    when joel gets back in the fold, they will turn things around


    they have a team put together
    andre, armon & patty
    wesley, rudy & brandon
    nic, dante and babitt
    lamarcus and marcus
    sean, joel (and later greg)

    they will figure things out, it may just take some time.

    by reverse on 11/13/2010 11:46 PM
  54. nice to see that the grizz lost at home in ot tonight.

    they play monday in orlando before facing portland tuesday.

    i hope dwight howard drops an elbow on a few of their heads like he does against the blazers.

    hopefully this part of the schedule will work for us.

    go blazers!

    by reverse on 11/13/2010 11:56 PM
  55. EA,
    You mean news about Roy's meniscus-free knees was around before? News like this one from April 12th...


    ...which states that it was just a "meniscus tear", and mentioned previous attempts to repair the cartilage.

    Or this article from April 13th...


    ...which also reports a "torn meniscus".

    Finally, there's this piece from Blazers Edge (4/16)...


    ...further stating that a "partial tear of the meniscus" was successfully repaired.

    If you've got something, link it. Otherwise it's not exactly "readily available", is it? I bet you heard correct speculation from somewhere, or maybe your psychic powers kicked into overdrive. What you feel must be deja vu. Either way, there's no reason to rail on those of us not privy to your mysterious sources.

    by 500Dogs on 11/14/2010 12:17 AM
  56. kassandra, i'm surprised you mentioned your age and gender. i always viewed you as a peer in this blog. i'm not picking on you. i just felt comfortable talking openly with you. i thought we had somewhat of a good rapport with each other. i guess i was wrong. by the way, i was referring to all the other negative blogs as well. perhaps i should have made that more clear. maybe i missed the blogs were marcus was putting people's positiveness down. if that's the case, i'm sorry. if i would have read that, i would have definitely jumped on it.

    anyway, i don't know if it's just me, but i feel like you react somewhat petulantly to opposing views. you can say i'm "off-base", but i don't think someone's feelings is can be quantified in that manner. that's just how I feel. like you said...it is what it is.

    by sudelander on 11/14/2010 1:12 AM
  57. roy's dilapidation is becoming realized. it's time to refigure our expectations of this year and the future. sigh.

    go blazers!

    by thedanman on 11/14/2010 1:27 AM
  58. Eowyn Amarie:

    I was aware of BRoy's lack of meniscus, not because I remembered the articles that 500dogs mentioned, but from being a knee casualty patient myself. If a patient keeps flattening out the meniscus and trimming off the part that is bulging out, pretty soon there will be none left to flatten out. So I have been concerned, and aware for quite sometime of Brandon’s growing problem and was sure it would be a matter of time before it started bothering him again. Not because I am smart, but because I know all the minor repair is just buying time, not fixing the problem. In fact, that is why the Dr. said Brandon could go back to playing as soon as he felt well enough. He can't do any more damage to something he doesn’t have.

    Brandon will go through periods of flame-ups and swelling because of excessive use, until his knee becomes to discomforting to go on, then he will have to decide what to do. I am not up on the reasons or when to get micro-fracture surgery, but I do know he is on borrowed time with his bone on bone.

    Congratulations on you picking the wins and losses through the fist 12 games, but we have one more to go. You picked us winning at the Grizzlies and I picked a loss. Dang, I hope you are right. That win would not catch me up to you are Kassandra. We both predicted a 8-4 record, in which you forgot to mention. Therefore you do not have psychic power as 500dogs suggested, but maybe a little more insight. Either way I guess you do have bragging rights.

    by magnumpi on 11/14/2010 7:12 AM
  59. Eowyn Amarie:

    One more thing, IMO, BRoy wasn't over-reacting; when a patient is bone on bone, the bones doesn't slide across each other as well as it does with a cushion. Therefore, it gets a lock-up effect, which in BRoy's case something has got to give. It is very painful and at the moment at least you can't go on. Kind of like getting the wind knocked out of you, the shock will prevent you momentarily from continuing your activity. I am not excluding the mental aspect though, so you may be right.

    by magnumpi on 11/14/2010 7:23 AM
  60. I am not surprised or let down that we loss tonight. We are in the middle of growing pains and that takes time. We were beaten from the beginning, but we stayed in the fight and never gave up. It was great experience for our younger players that will help tremendously in the near future. For instance, I thought Armon did a fantastic job guarding CP3 and will use that experience to get better, and learn some of CP3's moves.

    With BRoy going out, it probably is just a temporary flare-up, but that is going to happen from time to time. Because of that it doesn't hurt that Rudy and Wesley gets more playing time.

    I am sure Dre will bounce back before Tuesday, but his thigh will still be sore. Therefore the more time for Armon will be valuable also.

    Looking at the positive side of things, there is more to a game then just the win or loss. The big thing is somebody has got to make shots consistently when we go against a defensive powered team.

    by magnumpi on 11/14/2010 7:39 AM
  61. 500Dogs: you posted the same thing about Nicolas that i've been thinking and saying lately. Nicolas had a couple of really nice games before chicago and milwaukie. after those two games, he's really had a nice, solid stretch as of late. though i hadn't looked at his percentages, those numbers haven't surprised me.

    another player i'd like to throw out there at this point is Dante. you mentioned his numbers as well. he's not lighting it up on the scoreboard, but he's rebounding and defending very well. i think he'll be a very nice compliment to Joel at pf/c upon Joel's return.

    ~ Kassandra

    by Kassandra on 11/14/2010 10:17 AM
  62. 500dogs and Kassandra:

    I too love me some Nic; he is going to be among the top, if not already there. My only problem with Nic is he comes and goes in a game like OR sunny days. I agree 5 more minutes a game and 5 more shots might keep him connected.

    I don't know what Nate said to Nic at half time last night, but it sure light a fire under him.

    I hope he can consistently take up the slack form BRoy's injury

    by magnumpi on 11/14/2010 10:26 AM
  63. sudelander: for starters ... this again? i don't think i act petulantly to opposing views in the least. i present my position and try to elicit understanding from whom i'm speaking/writing. the bare truth is that you unjustly attacked me for having such a view without even knowing the source of it. marcus did, in fact, chide those who speaking positive about the team. come on, you know that doesn't fly around here. i haven't a clue why you would be surprised at that.

    i don't recall us ever having an issue here, and i have considered you a blazer friewnd here. the reason i mentioned my stats was to make a point on which perhaps i should have elaborated. you feel free to criticize me for being blunt (or whatever you seem to want to call it). it appeared, to me, that you single some people out for stating their position from a point-blank standpoint, but you commend others who are truly rude or condescending (private message me if you want the identity). why the unevenness? can you not treat all the same? lately, it doesn't seem that you can. that is my point.

    i think i've been very clear that once i am attacked, i will stand up for myself. that will never change. just because you and i have disgreed here does not mean there is no rapport. i don't ask to be treated more special than anyone else here; just equal. however, i will continue to speak my mind and to present my opinions and beliefs as i see them. again, that will never change.

    ~ Kassandra

    by Kassandra on 11/14/2010 10:31 AM
  64. I love Dante's game. He makes up for lack of size for pf. and speed for sf. by his BB IQ.. He is in the right spot, blocks out, takes good shots, and anticipates. If the rest of the team played with his energy and intellegence we would be a force.

    by Ancientone on 11/14/2010 10:33 AM
  65. Ancientone:

    I agree on Dante, he is our junk yard dog. He does all the distasteful things that the elite can't or won't do. A Rodman's type of game without the size or the ego. He is being recognized by the teams in the NBA, if not the media.

    by magnumpi on 11/14/2010 10:42 AM
  66. 500dogs: Sorry for the rant before, didn't mean to offend or upset anyone. I have just been increasingly frustrated with the ultra-dramatic tone that is going along with these developments (which is not new, that is also in all those articles from 2008 on, now THAT is definitely deja vu!). I guess I shouldn't have come into this forum to vent it, since it is here I see panic the least. So, sorry. I was flippant and rude.

    I guess I have taken it for granted that with the information about Brandon's various knee surgeries (which have been publicized and discussed ever since he was in college - the articles are all over the web, going all the way back to his UW days), coupled with a little information on the meniscus and tears and surgeries, most people would recognize that Brandon has been either bone-on-bone or close to it in both knees for some time. It's just common sense. The meniscus is only so big, you can only "tear" it and "fix" it so many times, before there is little to no meniscus left.

    The articles linked above repeatedly note surgery for a tear in the meniscus, which implies that yes, there is still meniscus there, for both surgeries. That is obvious, otherwise they would not have done the surgeries, yes. But it naturally follows that POST-surgery, there would be less meniscus, right? Especially after two surgeries for the same injury on the same knee. I suppose that information was perhaps not so readily available at the time, and is not easy to find now apparently, but I DID find it then, last April. No, as I said, I don't remember where and couldn't locate it now, but it was online and I will conceed that it was speculative in nature regarding the state of his RIGHT knee (But the "news" now is about his LEFT knee, which is what I was talking about anyway). I do remember it specifically noting that he had very little to no meniscus in his LEFT knee though (as he had already had two on that one by then), and the speculation was that after the 2nd surgery, his RIGHT knee would probably be in the same shape. It wasn't my interpretations, it was plain English. I am really sorry I cannot locate it now, and that I did not save the link at that time, since it was seemingly no as well-known as I thought it was. I was casually satisfying my own curiosity, and ran across it while googling Roy, his knee surgeries, and meniscus stuff. The latest batch of articles, notes at least once that the knee situation is something Doc and Brandon have been dealing with for awhile now, meaning it's not something new. The intensity of the swelling and pain is, but not the main problem. I thought Barrett's interview, along with comments quoted in other articles, made that abudantly clear. Really wish I could make my source less "mysterious", I really do.

    I don't have psychic powers, just really good "hunches" from time to time, which I find amusing and frustrating!

    hg/magnumpi: I am bummed I was right, and I am of course, hoping you are WRONG! I think a 0-3 road trip would be really demoralizing. I guess my pointing out my predictions over and over again does look like I'm after bragging rights, huh? I honestly just think it's funny, in an ironic way. And yes, we did predict an 8-4 record, with different wins and losses. I was wrong on the first OKC loss, which I think all of us missed, but got the rest of the losses, so far. And it's not insight, just intuition, lol! No smarts here at all.

    Oh, you are probably more right about the injury last night than I am, thanks for pointing that potential source of the "sharp" pain Roy said he experienced. I still think a lot of it may be adjustment stuff, especially mental (fear), and really hope that is the case.

    Okay, that's that. No more blog clogging from me!

    by EowynAmarie on 11/14/2010 10:47 AM
  67. I heard that BRoy is depending on anti-inflammatory drugs to keep the swelling down, and that the greatest health risk associated with those is related to the liver. To that point, I'd like to suggest that Roy stay on a steady diet of kombucha.

    There is no proven science that kombucha is good for you (mostly because there's no money to be made in doing research for a natural remedy that can be grown at home for free), but the theory is that it helps the liver to detox. There are further claims that it helps prevent cancer and all kinds of wonderful stuff, but initial research indicates that most benefits seem to be associated with liver health.

    I'm curious about the team doctors approach in general: Do they employ any eastern medicinal and physical health techniques? Are these guys encouraged to get acupuncture, or to practice yoga or tai chi? I imagine it's all surgery and drugs, but I'd be interested to get the scoop on that. Kombucha has been taken for it's health benefits for over a hundred years; I'd hope the team docs would give it a chance and research the results, not only for Roy's sake, but in the interest of medicine.

    by 500Dogs on 11/14/2010 10:54 AM
  68. MB: thanks for the interview. it was good to hear some of these things come out of Brandon's own mouth. unfortunately though, it appears some things have changed since the interview took place.

    i've not yet heard the extent of Brandon's knee injury from the hornets game. maybe there is one and i need to check the site (i usually come here first when i visit the fan site!). of course, i hope it's minor and he returns to action soon.

    Brandon has been playing a lot of minutes. it we're as deep as people say, there should be no need for that. i think part of the problem is that he's playing come backup pg. i say from now on, leave the backup pg duties to Armon, Wesley and Rudy. there's no need for Brandon to be the one pulling double duty.

    from what Brandon said, the team seems to be in the right frame of mind. they seem to be talking with one another about the right sort of things. yes, we're 6-5 right now, but all things considered, that's probably pretty good. within a few weeks, some things should jump into place and then we should have a better barometer of where this team is.

    ~ Kassandra

    by Kassandra on 11/14/2010 10:54 AM
  69. Eowyn Amarie:

    You are not blog clogging, your topics are very TB orientated.

    I thank you for your reply.

    I was thinking that we would lose to NYK because we would take them lightly and be looking to Chicago game. (Wrong)

    We both picked winning at home against OKC; that pick was the bad one. We both predicted a loss to LAL and OKC on their turf. I chose winning to NOH, because I swallowed the media lines of being in a rebuilding stage with a new owner, new GM, a new coach, and new players. I guess it just doesn't take some teams long to re adjust if you have a Star player in CP3 and a well trained coach. I hadn't looked at the possibilities of being undefeated or that Monty knows our team and our team’s weaknesses and could defend nicely against us. I did pick a loss to the Grizzlies because of our past games against them, but with the hope of getting Joel back and we will be fighting to redeem ourselves it is hopeful that I am wrong. Losing 3 road games in a row to worthy opponents isn't the end of the world, but it would put doubt in the minds of our young team.

    The two losses to OKC is the only concern I have, because they are division games. That does not mean the last two games are theirs by any means. Hope again, their two early season, our two late season when it counts more.

    Now I am the one that is ranting.


    by magnumpi on 11/14/2010 11:19 AM
  70. While BRoy slurps kombucha on the sidelines, here are my thoughts for the starting 2 guard...

    Wesley and Rudy have not shown the consistency needed to start. Wesley will get there, but right now he's looking like a slightly better Martell Webster (decent defense, frantic offense). If he can dial in that jumper and show better judgment on those drives, I'd give him the nod. Rudy is still Rudy, and he's about as ready to start now as he was last season (not ready). Had sunk the game-winner in OKC, there would be no question, but he didn't so the questions remain. Giving either of these the start would be to reward mediocrity.

    So here's my suggestion...

    1) Miller/Johnson/Mills
    2) Batum/Fernandez
    3) Cunningham/Mathews
    4) Aldridge
    5) Camby/Przybilla

    The risk is turnovers, the reward is length; offense is sacrificed for defense; range for rebounds. I think it would work out better than putting the ball in the hands of either remaining SG (remember a month ago when that was this season's logjammed position?).

    Dante is demanding more minutes through stellar effort, let's see what he does with an opportunity. Batum got a taste of playing SG this summer, I want to see how he fares running with the big dogs of the NBA.

    Something tells me Nate is going to try Rudy instead, but what do y'all think? Does Nico have it in him? Can Dante fit in?

    by 500Dogs on 11/14/2010 1:04 PM
  71. 500 dogs, i love me some DC in the starting lineup! it's time.

    kassandra, fair enough. i think we understand each other now. i'm sorry you feel like i was attacking you. that was never my intent. i will be more cognizant of my wording from now on. i would always expect you to speak your mind. i wouldn't want it any other way. i wanna get in on some predictions, but i'm going to hold back until we get a consistent starting lineup and at least one of our centers back. it's very hard to extrapolate with variable data.

    by sudelander on 11/14/2010 3:59 PM
  72. Dogs: Decent idea, but I think you are right in that Nate will just go with Rudy, probably mixed in with more Wesley than we have seen so far, so it's probably moot to even speculate on it.

    Up Next: Memphis Grizzlies

    They are 4-6 - 2/3 at Home and 2/3 on the Road.
    They have beat Dallas (in Dallas), Minnesota, Sacramento (in Sacramento), and Phoenix. They have lost to Atlanta (at home), the Lakers, GSW, Phoenix (the first time they played), and both Dallas and Boston at home. Those are their last two wins. They hit the road tommorrow, to play Orlandon in Orlando. Guessing they will lose that one and be ready for a home winner by Tuesday night. This game just might be a really tough one....again.

    Gay is averaging 25.2 PPG, Randolph is clocking 17.2 PPG and 11.2 RPG, Mayo and Conley are both between 14-15 PPG, and Gasol is at 12 PPG with 7.8 RPG. Thankfully, the rest of the crew isn't putting up terribly impressive numbers, but then again....neither is ours!

    I predicted a win here, but won't be terribly surprised if we lose it again, especially if it's in the fourth quarter.

    by EowynAmarie on 11/14/2010 5:39 PM
  73. sudelander:

    that's fine with me. i'm not a person (or 18-year-old girl) who asks for more than her share without earning it. all i ask for is equality and to have the floor from time to time.


    i think that lineup would be worth a shot. would Dante slide over to back up LaMarcus as he's doing now, or would Marcus be the backup pf with Sean spelling him a few minutes a game?

    i also think you're right about Nate going with Rudy in brandon's absence. in lieu of that, here's what i think will happen:

    pg - Andre, Armon, Patty
    sg - Rudy, Wesley
    sf - Nicolas, Dante
    pf - LaMarcus, Marcus, Dante
    c - Marcus, Joel, Sean

    that's 12 players on the active list, though the team might make Patrick inactive and Luke active. in that case, Wesley would probably run the point when Andre and Armon aren't in, Nicolas would move to some sg, and Luke would be the third sf.

    to answer your questions: Nicolas is playing better and is more reliable than Rudy and Wesley; yes, Dante can fit in, especially because of his high basketball iq, giving him the intelligence to play either forward position.


    as far as our predictions are concerned ... i don't wanna play anymore! nah, i'm not going there. i'll take a look at the next several games and get back to you.

    ~ Kassandra

    by Kassandra on 11/14/2010 8:23 PM
  74. I certainly think that Batum has the versatility to be able to do it and it would give Dante the chance benefit from his hard work. A 6'9" gaurd with long arms could cause defenses some real headaches. Don't count out BRoy yet. It all depends on the overall condition of the bone and the rest of the joint. I'll bet hg could tell you about how it just never feels quite right but you can go a long time with it. I went through the military and played ball in college that way and only recently joined hg in the titanium club.

    by Ancientone on 11/14/2010 8:39 PM
  75. I have been preaching all summer about Batum playing 2GD like he did in the Worlds. He can hit the outside shot; go off the dribble with a dunk or a short jumper, or a floater. He plays 2gds and PG on dffense much of the time anyway.


    Your line-up sounds about right; my thought would be to make Sean in-active when Joel gets back Then LMA could play the 4 and the five, and make Luke active to help Dante as the 3 and the four. After all the debating with you, I don't think Wesley can play the point to good yet. His handles are ok, he can take it to the rim, but he is not ready to facilitate yet. In case of an emergency, he could do. but Batum at the 2 could do the facilitating and let Matthews bring the ball up.

    You are right about Batum being a better player a better shooter and a better defender than either Rudy or Wesley.

    But, I agree with Ancientone, don't count BRoy out. when you go bone on bone there are times it flares up and it grinds groves in the bone then pops out from time to time, that is what I think BRoy went through in the last game. It appeared that his knee sort of locked up and then popped lose again. That is very painful but you can bounce back for quite some time. Like ancientone said, it depends on the shape of the two bones involved.


    by magnumpi on 11/14/2010 9:51 PM
  76. Oh no and now this.
    Now,this is too much for one season.


    by DowntownVinnie on 11/14/2010 10:44 PM
  77. I love Dante, but for the most part he's flying under the radar as far as most teams goes playing against us. If he played more mins other teams would game plan against him and not give him the shots he likes and his FG percentage would drop. He's a great hustle player and scores efficient when he can pop his shot, but I wouldn't give him a lot of mins just yet.

    by mgb on 11/15/2010 7:12 AM
  78. MGB:

    If they started paying attention to Dante that will make somebody else free or easier to score. The plan is to keep multi-treats in the game at all times, opposed to Dre, BRoy and Aldridge packing all the load. Plus he is terrific on D and has great BB skills. There is worst things in the game then having your shooting % drop. Like a stagnant offense.


    by magnumpi on 11/15/2010 8:31 AM
  79. The point was how good his FG percentage was compare to the other players, my point was it'd drop too. Also you can only play five players at a time.

    by mgb on 11/15/2010 9:11 AM
  80. True:

    I was just saying if his goes down others will go up because if we have five good shooters on the floor, it is doubtful they can put pressure on all five. Plus Dante has a nose for the ball and the nache to be in the right place at the right time.

    All in all, If BRoy is out, I would take Dante over Wesley at this time and slide Batum over to 2gd that he played in the finals.

    by magnumpi on 11/15/2010 9:44 AM
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